Star trails at the two celestial poles disprove the FE hypothesis.

There are 2 celestial poles. The North celestial pole has a bright star very close to the pole. It looks like this:
http://www.twanight.org/newTWAN/guests_photos/5001711.jpg
Notice Polaris making the tight arc just left of center. This is regularly seen by billions of people. You can easily confirm the veracity of this yourself. You can make such star trails images with your own camera - or simply make note of the positions of a few stars and then return some hours later and look again.

The South celestial pole looks very different. There is no bright star near the South celestial pole. It looks like this:
http://twanight.org/newTWAN/photos/3003813.jpg
Many millions of people see this different view as their night sky too. It's totally different. I'm sure you can easily call up time lapse videos. You can also make your own observations. Take a trip to Australia or New Zealand or South America or South Africa. Lots of great things to see - include a personal view of a different night sky. Different constellations. Totally different sky. You can never see Northern Hemisphere constellations in the Southern sky and vice versa (although constellations along the ecliptic are visible in both hemispheres).

Now this all makes perfect sense in the spherical Earth model. The rotating ball has two axes pointing out 180 degrees away from each other. But the flat Earth model has a problem. The firmament has a single axis of rotation. How would you jigger two totally different apparent rotation axes for the night sky in a flat Earth view? You could imagine two apparent axes on either side of the disk - but their juncture would be weird - with a lot of stretch and rapid motion on the side away from the juncture seam and a lot of slow motion and apparent contraction of ecliptic constellations on the side where the two spinning sky features meet. None of that is ever seen in any part of the Earth's night sky.  I've personally been on the equator and watched the night sky.  It looks like the normal stately arc you see everywhere else.  This is an easy visual proof which invalidates the flat Earth model and proves the spherical Earth model.

If there is any flaw in this reasoning, please point it out.

Your reasoning is sound, my friend. Reason, however, has no place here. You are not the first to make this observation. FE supporters will either ignore the question or claim your images have been falsified by THE CONSPIRACY.

I have also heard somebody talk about Celestial Gears, but they failed to explain what they were or how they work.

I have also heard somebody talk about Celestial Gears, but they failed to explain what they were or how they work.

I've also heard about those gears. Then I realized how stupid that idea was. There are suppose to be few gears, one with north hemisphere stars and few (like 3) with south stars. Then north one rotates and pushes others to rotate in opposite direction. That explains why stars rotate in different directions. All south gears are exact copies so everyone sees the same stars.

You can see how much nonsense that idea has.

But once you apply globe model, everything fits the reality so easily. Those who love Occam's razor (FE seem to like it) would be happy.

Just realize WTF I burn my time on this forum arguing with Flat Earthers instead of watching movie and drink beer...





BECAUSE IT'S SO F***ING AWESOME!!!

The Dual Earth model has long since answered this. It's amazing how no round earthers are honest enough to point this out. They've acknowledged it in separate discussions, but they'd never give an accurate depiction of Flat Earth Theory.

May I have a link to the explanation? I'm just curious...

Signature. My model is there for all to see, linked to in every post I make.

The mental gymnastics required to imagine a working model of Dual Earth theory are staggering.

Assertion without substance. Why is that all round earthers are capable of?

Please keep DET shilling to your containment thread, where I just replied.

The Dual Earth model has long since answered this. It's amazing how no round earthers are honest enough to point this out. They've acknowledged it in separate discussions, but they'd never give an accurate depiction of Flat Earth Theory.

"The Dual Earth model has long since answered this" and added its own plethora of problems and wild unsubstantiated assumptions.

Is it any wonder Globe supporters don't want to unnecessarily open another "can of worms"?

JRoweSkeptic!!!!  Hi buddy. 
No I am not going to belittle DET today. 

Everyone else,
Is there anything that gives any credence to the flat earth notion?

Assertion without substance. Why is that all round earthers are capable of?

I thought "assertion without substance" was a prime requirement of one's acceptance of DET.

By definition, aether is defined to have any properties required of it to support DET.

If that "property of aether" is accepted then everything else falls into place.
If that "property of aether" is false then everything falls to pieces.


[1] Or even postulated by anyone but you - though, maybe Sandokhan's ideas are getting close.

Rabinoz, your refusal to learn the model has no impact on DET. Aether is well-defined and reasonable, and your insistence that it is somehow unjustified is plainly false as you remain unable to provide any evidence beyond a misrepresentation.

Or, maybe your theory doesn't make sense. I mean, look at this:

Wow, guess what? POSTING THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT IS COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY FUCKING MISLEADING. WHO WOULD EVER HAVE GUESSED. GROW UP. THE MODEL WORKS. The fact you're too lazy to mount an informed or logical argument says it all.

Please explain WTF is going on in that picture then, or make a picture that makes sense.

LEARN. THE. FUCKING. MODEL. I AM NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME REPEATING PAGES OF EXPLANATION TO A MISERABLE penguin TOO LAZY TO FUCKING READ. YOU KNOW WHERE THE EXPLANATION IS. READ IT OR FUCK OFF AND STOP SPEWING YOUR BULLSHIT.

Read it, doesn't make a lick of sense. Please explain it to me like I'm 5.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!

Just fuck off. You're wasting my time, everyone can see it. You lie about the contents of the model, you spew bullshit, you rip diagrams out of context, and now you are just blatantly wasting my time expecting me to take hours walking your ignorant little mind through a detailed model as though you'd pay any attention and as though you care at all, and you do nothing to justify your ridiculous demands beyond asserting "Oh, it doesn't make sense," without giving the slightest reason why this is the case, and so utterly preventing me from clarifying any aspect whatsoever.

So, no. You're wasting time, it's clear to literally everyone, go fuck yourself.

Can't fuck myself. Unlike your world, the real world doesn't have teleportation. Can't teleport my dick into my butt.

No teleportation involved fuckwit. Look, more lies. Why is that all you can do?

I didn't lie. I literally cannot teleport my dick into my butt.

Why do you think I lied?

OH WAIT! Fucking yourself would actually prove your theory, since that would mean that teleportation was possible, which Round Earth can't explain!

Perfect experiment: fuck yourself.

Look at that. The round earther's a troll. Who'd have thought.

Well, at least it is better than your experiments that you conveniently cannot carry out.

Nothing stopping you carrying them out. And of course, as you're so keen to learn the model you could always spot potential experiments I've missed.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67601.msg1806613#msg1806613

Other people have done your "gravity jump" experiment.

It doesn't work. It doesn't jump.

But there is aether!!! Jumping in aether is different!!!