Why a sphere?

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2016, 10:14:10 PM »
We all (FE believers) know that RE is essentially a NASA fabrication. I'm just wondering why they chose a sphere, and not any other shape. Surely something like a cube would be easier to convince people of, because it allows for the flat horizons we see every day. Any thoughts?

You do realize that the thought of the Earth being a sphere occurred over a thousand years before NASA right?

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2016, 12:17:38 AM »
We all (FE believers) know that RE is essentially a NASA fabrication. I'm just wondering why they chose a sphere, and not any other shape. Surely something like a cube would be easier to convince people of, because it allows for the flat horizons we see every day. Any thoughts?

You do realize that the thought of the Earth being a sphere occurred over a thousand years before NASA right?

You do realize that a thousands years before NASA, they also thought that maggots spontaneously spawned from rotting meat, right?  ::)

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2016, 02:52:24 AM »
We all (FE believers) know that RE is essentially a NASA fabrication. I'm just wondering why they chose a sphere, and not any other shape. Surely something like a cube would be easier to convince people of, because it allows for the flat horizons we see every day. Any thoughts?

You do realize that the thought of the Earth being a sphere occurred over a thousand years before NASA right?

You do realize that a thousands years before NASA, they also thought that maggots spontaneously spawned from rotting meat, right?  ::)
Are you deliberately ignoring the context of this statement or do you just not understand it?
Of course not all ideas that occured thousand years ago are correct, but the statement that RE is a NASA fabrication is complete bullshit as the idea of the earth being round is much, much older than NASA.

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2016, 02:56:39 AM »
We all (FE believers) know that RE is essentially a NASA fabrication. I'm just wondering why they chose a sphere, and not any other shape. Surely something like a cube would be easier to convince people of, because it allows for the flat horizons we see every day. Any thoughts?

You do realize that the thought of the Earth being a sphere occurred over a thousand years before NASA right?

You do realize that a thousands years before NASA, they also thought that maggots spontaneously spawned from rotting meat, right?  ::)
Are you deliberately ignoring the context of this statement or do you just not understand it?
Of course not all ideas that occured thousand years ago are correct, but the statement that RE is a NASA fabrication is complete bullshit as the idea of the earth being round is much, much older than NASA.

I am simply stating that something being old does not automatically make it right.  What part of that are you having trouble understanding? 

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2016, 03:01:26 AM »
Please read my post again. I marked some words for better understanding.
Are you deliberately ignoring the context of this statement or do you just not understand it?
Of course not all ideas that occured thousand years ago are correct, but the statement that RE is a NASA fabrication is complete bullshit as the idea of the earth being round is much, much older than NASA.

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2016, 03:18:23 AM »
How does that negate my statement? 

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2016, 03:22:49 AM »
It does not. If you read my post, you stated something which I already said.

But Pangea's intent was not to disprove flat earth by saying that RE is several thousand years old, he just wanted to say that the claim "NASA invented RE" is bullshit. Therefore your claim (with the maggots) had nothing to do with his intended statement, which you either did not understand or deliberately misunderstood.

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2016, 03:23:20 AM »
How does that negate my statement?
How was your statement relevant in the first place?
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2016, 03:54:34 AM »
It does not. If you read my post, you stated something which I already said.

But Pangea's intent was not to disprove flat earth by saying that RE is several thousand years old, he just wanted to say that the claim "NASA invented RE" is bullshit. Therefore your claim (with the maggots) had nothing to do with his intended statement, which you either did not understand or deliberately misunderstood.

So, you agree with me then.  Finally, we are making progress!   :D

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2016, 05:41:57 AM »
i wish to add another question here,

WHY only nasa, why other space agencies are not envolved into this consirancy?
actually why keep flat earth a secret? how that hell this help in world dominance?

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2016, 09:36:56 AM »
Well for one, a cube would make it possible to fall off the edge, and it would be impossible to have a wall of ice at every edge. And if it was a cube, airplanes would have a hard time going around the edge. Also, if it was a cube(or really any other shape) it would be a possibility to fall off and NASA wouldn't want u to believe that u can fall off. And they probably didn't think of a flat earth for too long, because there's still a possibility of falling off. So they (or whoever) came up with the idea of gravity, and realized that u can't fall off of the edge if it's a sphere, so they went with a sphere. But when they went to space, they didn't want to admit that they lied to us( I mean, who would?) so they stuck with a sphere.

That was really dumb.

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2016, 11:19:43 AM »
Well for one, a cube would make it possible to fall off the edge, and it would be impossible to have a wall of ice at every edge. And if it was a cube, airplanes would have a hard time going around the edge. Also, if it was a cube(or really any other shape) it would be a possibility to fall off and NASA wouldn't want u to believe that u can fall off. And they probably didn't think of a flat earth for too long, because there's still a possibility of falling off. So they (or whoever) came up with the idea of gravity, and realized that u can't fall off of the edge if it's a sphere, so they went with a sphere. But when they went to space, they didn't want to admit that they lied to us( I mean, who would?) so they stuck with a sphere.

That was really dumb.

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Hey, I just call it like I see it.  If the earth was a cube, or any other non-globe shape, we would have found out with the first ICBMs or sounding rockets, if not long before then. 
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2016, 11:36:05 AM »
We all (FE believers) know that RE is essentially a NASA fabrication. I'm just wondering why they chose a sphere, and not any other shape. Surely something like a cube would be easier to convince people of, because it allows for the flat horizons we see every day. Any thoughts?

You do realize that the thought of the Earth being a sphere occurred over a thousand years before NASA right?

You do realize that a thousands years before NASA, they also thought that maggots spontaneously spawned from rotting meat, right?  ::)

Sure.
You are tip-toeing around point. - As much as you want to blame them, NASA didn't create the Heliocentric Model.
It's been a fact for hundreds of years.

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2016, 09:30:20 AM »
No, they just took advantage of the Dark Age superstition that the earth was a globe that was started by the Cult of Pythagoras.
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2016, 08:35:24 PM »
No, they just took advantage of the Dark Age superstition that the earth was a globe that was started by the Cult of Pythagoras.

Do you ever think before you post?  You must really not want people to take you seriously. 
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2016, 01:47:01 AM »
because a sphere is a finite object from which you can't excape.

instead, you all shills and idiots have no problem with infinite space, but you keep on sayin bullshits about the edge and stuff like that.

what about an infinite flat surface?

what about governments don't want you to try to reach other possible "worlds" around us, because you HAVE to stay here and be a slave of the upcoming NWO?

wake up or die, but I do hope shills will die NOW with their fucking NWO shit.
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2016, 09:47:40 AM »
No, they just took advantage of the Dark Age superstition that the earth was a globe that was started by the Cult of Pythagoras.

Do you ever think before you post?  You must really not want people to take you seriously.
Where do you think the belief in a globe started?

Do you really think they thought the earth was flat in the Dark Ages?

Do you ever think before you type? Because I have to see evidence of it. If you had, you would realize the earth is flat as can be.
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2016, 10:58:42 AM »
No, they just took advantage of the Dark Age superstition that the earth was a globe that was started by the Cult of Pythagoras.

Do you ever think before you post?  You must really not want people to take you seriously.
Where do you think the belief in a globe started?

Do you really think they thought the earth was flat in the Dark Ages?

Do you ever think before you type? Because I have to see evidence of it. If you had, you would realize the earth is flat as can be.

The idea of a globe came from observations of ships sinking below the horizon and the earth's shadow during a lunar eclipse forming a circle; not from any "cult."  This was known long before the rest of the globe was mapped.  So do you think it's a coincidence that when it was finally mapped, a globe was the only accurate shape to model it?  Of course not.  Even you agree that a globe is the best way to map the earth.  And now that we know the earth is a planet in the solar system, we can see that the earth, moon, and all the other planets and their moons follow Kepler orbits, and so do our satellites.  The globe is an objective fact, and any truly rational person could see that.  All your arguments about contrails, water level, and horizon only prove that the earth is big; something we knew long ago. 
Need I go on?  Because I haven't even started on the Coriolus Effect, seismology, neutrino astronomy, geodesy, navigation, or surveying, and I've barely started on satellites. 
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2016, 11:57:28 AM »
No, they just took advantage of the Dark Age superstition that the earth was a globe that was started by the Cult of Pythagoras.

Do you ever think before you post?  You must really not want people to take you seriously.
Where do you think the belief in a globe started?

Do you really think they thought the earth was flat in the Dark Ages?

Do you ever think before you type? Because I have to see evidence of it. If you had, you would realize the earth is flat as can be.

The idea of a globe came from observations of ships sinking below the horizon and the earth's shadow during a lunar eclipse forming a circle; not from any "cult."  This was known long before the rest of the globe was mapped.  So do you think it's a coincidence that when it was finally mapped, a globe was the only accurate shape to model it?  Of course not.  Even you agree that a globe is the best way to map the earth.  And now that we know the earth is a planet in the solar system, we can see that the earth, moon, and all the other planets and their moons follow Kepler orbits, and so do our satellites.  The globe is an objective fact, and any truly rational person could see that.  All your arguments about contrails, water level, and horizon only prove that the earth is big; something we knew long ago. 
Need I go on?  Because I haven't even started on the Coriolus Effect, seismology, neutrino astronomy, geodesy, navigation, or surveying, and I've barely started on satellites.
The idea comes from Pythagoras and his little cult in the 6th to 5th century BC. Unless you know of an earlier source?
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2016, 11:59:27 AM »
The idea of a globe came from observations of ships sinking below the horizon and the earth's shadow during a lunar eclipse forming a circle; not from any "cult."  This was known long before the rest of the globe was mapped.  So do you think it's a coincidence that when it was finally mapped, a globe was the only accurate shape to model it?  Of course not.  Even you agree that a globe is the best way to map the earth.  And now that we know the earth is a planet in the solar system, we can see that the earth, moon, and all the other planets and their moons follow Kepler orbits, and so do our satellites.  The globe is an objective fact, and any truly rational person could see that.  All your arguments about contrails, water level, and horizon only prove that the earth is big; something we knew long ago. 
Need I go on?  Because I haven't even started on the Coriolus Effect, seismology, neutrino astronomy, geodesy, navigation, or surveying, and I've barely started on satellites.

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2016, 12:10:50 PM »
So you have no recorded earlier examples of belief in a globe?
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2016, 12:22:39 PM »
So you have no recorded earlier examples of belief in a globe?

It doesn't matter.  The earth is a globe.  It doesn't matter who noticed first. 
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2016, 12:31:32 PM »
So you have no recorded earlier examples of belief in a globe?

It doesn't matter.  The earth is a globe.  It doesn't matter who noticed first.
Good. Then you don't. Another victory for flat earth. Your beliefs spawned from the Cult of Pythagoras and are a Dark Age superstition.
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« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2016, 12:38:09 PM »
So you have no recorded earlier examples of belief in a globe?

It doesn't matter.  The earth is a globe.  It doesn't matter who noticed first.
Good. Then you don't. Another victory for flat earth. Your beliefs spawned from the Cult of Pythagoras and are a Dark Age superstition.

I just explained to you why they are not.  FE has never won, not even here, because the earth is objectively round. 
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« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2016, 12:39:28 PM »
So you have no recorded earlier examples of belief in a globe?

It doesn't matter.  The earth is a globe.  It doesn't matter who noticed first.
Good. Then you don't. Another victory for flat earth. Your beliefs spawned from the Cult of Pythagoras and are a Dark Age superstition.

I admire your skills to completely miss  a point.

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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2016, 12:50:20 PM »
Amateur astronomy (visual/photographic) supports/proves or falsifies/disproves/ destroys/annihilates any Earth model. You can have a disk or a plane, whatever. Unless you can explain the sky/heavens (what amateur astronomers see and photograph), it doesn't matter.

All celestial objects (e.g. stars) have celestial coordinates (declination and ascension) that match Earth coordinates - specifically Declination = Latitude EXACTLY (See Explanation - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declination). They are overhead based on their declination and the observer's latitude. A star with declination of 40° N will "draw" the 40° N latitude on Earth in 24 hrs. The N. Celestial Pole (90° N) is a single point over a single point N.Pole. The Celestial Equator (0°) is the largest circle (star trail) and is over the equator - not some "edge". The S. Celestial Pole (90° S) is a single point over a single point S.Pole (where is it exactly on any FE model?) (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66457.0)

When looking at the S. Celestial Pole, everyone everywhere is facing due south (per declination/latitude) - just like when looking at the N.Celestial Pole, everyone is facing due north.

How do people south of the equator see the S. Celestial Pole rising higher and higher the farther south they go? Why is it a single point (that implies it is a single point on Earth per declination/latitude)? How can you see the stars BELOW it (draw a horizontal light through any image of it) when they are on the other side of the Earth 10,000+ mi behind you as you face south?


So arguing gravity or UA or other things are not even important if you can't get the sky right (i.e. the Earth model is wrong). On a FE FANTASY world, ANYTHING goes. You don't have to prove ANYTHING.

BTW, THAT is why the Earth is a sphere - because the sky WORKS.
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2016, 04:41:13 PM »
So you have no recorded earlier examples of belief in a globe?

It doesn't matter.  The earth is a globe.  It doesn't matter who noticed first.
Good. Then you don't. Another victory for flat earth. Your beliefs spawned from the Cult of Pythagoras and are a Dark Age superstition.

I admire your skills to completely miss  a point.
I think you missed the point. We believe what we believe due to similar evidences. We are accused of all sorts of things - mostly religious dogmatism. In fact - we are the opposite. We are the weird. We are the outliers. We are the ones being ostracized.

Yes, we can cite point after point of why the Earth is flat. And you can too - of why the Earth is round. Clearly - we are viewing it from different angles.
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2016, 04:42:28 PM »
Saying that there is anything as objective fact ignores reality.
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2016, 05:14:25 PM »
Saying that there is anything as objective fact ignores reality.

Did you just ignore all the evidence I listed? 
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Re: Why a sphere?
« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2016, 06:30:35 PM »
Saying that there is anything as objective fact ignores reality.

Did you just ignore all the evidence I listed?
I don't know, have you ignored all the evidence against objective fact from philosophy of science, post-modernism, and existentialism - all of the leading philosophies and sciences of today?!
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