100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2016, 10:08:39 PM »

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2016, 02:32:15 AM »
I recall reading on another thread that just posting links without anything else was considered low-contest posting...
Care to summarize the points of your link, or even say what it is about?

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2016, 04:55:08 AM »
How many 100% proofs does it take to add up to nothing.
Well, 0 * 100% is still 0, so... Infinite number of such proofs won't do anything either.

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2016, 05:05:27 AM »
I recall reading on another thread that just posting links without anything else was considered low-contest posting...
Care to summarize the points of your link, or even say what it is about?
You have a lot to learn! That only applies to posts supporting the globe!

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2016, 09:28:28 AM »
I recall reading on another thread that just posting links without anything else was considered low-contest posting...
Care to summarize the points of your link, or even say what it is about?

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2016, 10:20:15 AM »
Okay, you got me, I actually started to listen to your first podcast (was really, really bored).
Stayed till the first point. It was wrong. Left.
The horizon is not always eye level. There is, right now, a nice thread in the Technology, Science and Alt. Science which explains, among others, this phenomenon.

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2016, 03:50:30 PM »
You kinda left the other thread OP. still waiting for a reply.
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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2016, 03:58:03 PM »
I recall reading on another thread that just posting links without anything else was considered low-contest posting...
Care to summarize the points of your link, or even say what it is about?

Yeah, I'm not listening to some podcast if the person can't even give us a summary either. I don't care what side they're on.
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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2016, 07:53:02 PM »
 ::) ::) ::)
I recall reading on another thread that just posting links without anything else was considered low-contest posting...
Care to summarize the points of your link, or even say what it is about?

Yeah, I'm not listening to some podcast if the person can't even give us a summary either. I don't care what side they're on.


 :P ::) ::) ::)



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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2016, 12:19:57 AM »
Not learning, are we?
Or are you simply a Troll?

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2016, 05:46:46 AM »
I made it through the first minute, I claim that as a record,  did anyone else listen past the one minute mark?

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2016, 06:19:14 AM »
Don't know.. it felt like an hour..
He just started claiming the horizon to be always at eye level and said something about RE'ers claiming that this supported curvature. Had to stop there...

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2016, 06:23:42 AM »
Even IF it were true that it is always at eye level (it isn't but your eyes can't tell the difference of a few degrees from level) I've never seen it explained how it supports flat Earth either. That should also always be below eye level.

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2016, 06:26:02 AM »
Well, on an infinite flat plane the horizon would always be at eye level.

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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2016, 06:29:47 AM »
Well, on an infinite flat plane the horizon would always be at eye level.
No, it should still be lower.  Only on a concave Earth should it rise up.  Regardless, it isn't true that it is always at eye level anyway.

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2016, 07:02:39 AM »
Well, on an infinite flat plane the horizon would always be at eye level.
No, it should still be lower.  Only on a concave Earth should it rise up.  Regardless, it isn't true that it is always at eye level anyway.
I agree with the part that it is not always at eye level.
But on a flat infinite plane, regardless of your altitude the horizon would be at eye level. If it were angled downward, your line of sight would intersect the plane after a finite distance, so the sky and the earth can not meet there. I do not know how to express this clearly, I can draw a diagram of this if you want.

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2016, 07:17:04 AM »
Well, on an infinite flat plane the horizon would always be at eye level.
No, it should still be lower.  Only on a concave Earth should it rise up.  Regardless, it isn't true that it is always at eye level anyway.
I agree with the part that it is not always at eye level.
But on a flat infinite plane, regardless of your altitude the horizon would be at eye level. If it were angled downward, your line of sight would intersect the plane after a finite distance, so the sky and the earth can not meet there. I do not know how to express this clearly, I can draw a diagram of this if you want.
On a flat infinite plane it may appear at eye level but that is the same illusion as with a globe.  It would still be below a level line from your line of sight.

Not my picture but someone else's showing the horizon is in reality below eye level
http://h.dropcanvas.com/kidnc/theodoliteairplane.jpg

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2016, 07:30:33 AM »
Even IF it were true that it is always at eye level (it isn't but your eyes can't tell the difference of a few degrees from level) I've never seen it explained how it supports flat Earth either. That should also always be below eye level.

If you live in the US drive to Colorado and drive to the top of Pike's Peak, it is 14,110 feet above Sea Level. And look east, take a level and sight along it. The horizon is below your level line of sight.
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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2016, 12:42:58 PM »
Well, on an infinite flat plane the horizon would always be at eye level.
No, it should still be lower.  Only on a concave Earth should it rise up.  Regardless, it isn't true that it is always at eye level anyway.
I agree with the part that it is not always at eye level.
But on a flat infinite plane, regardless of your altitude the horizon would be at eye level. If it were angled downward, your line of sight would intersect the plane after a finite distance, so the sky and the earth can not meet there. I do not know how to express this clearly, I can draw a diagram of this if you want.
On a flat infinite plane it may appear at eye level but that is the same illusion as with a globe.  It would still be below a level line from your line of sight.

Not my picture but someone else's showing the horizon is in reality below eye level
http://h.dropcanvas.com/kidnc/theodoliteairplane.jpg

Measure the amount of degrees from your neck to your chin when looking straight at sea level, then while your going up, measure the difference in degrees that your chin makes the more you look down... if you get any results other than no difference... you might be blind.   Have a great day



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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2016, 07:14:32 PM »
Well, on an infinite flat plane the horizon would always be at eye level.
No, it should still be lower.  Only on a concave Earth should it rise up.  Regardless, it isn't true that it is always at eye level anyway.
I agree with the part that it is not always at eye level.
But on a flat infinite plane, regardless of your altitude the horizon would be at eye level. If it were angled downward, your line of sight would intersect the plane after a finite distance, so the sky and the earth can not meet there. I do not know how to express this clearly, I can draw a diagram of this if you want.
On a flat infinite plane it may appear at eye level but that is the same illusion as with a globe.  It would still be below a level line from your line of sight.

Not my picture but someone else's showing the horizon is in reality below eye level
http://h.dropcanvas.com/kidnc/theodoliteairplane.jpg
Measure the amount of degrees from your neck to your chin when looking straight at sea level, then while your going up, measure the difference in degrees that your chin makes the more you look down... if you get any results other than no difference... you might be blind.   Have a great day
Sorry, I really tried to find "the amount of degrees from your neck to your chin", but it was about 8 cm! So I tried "convert 8 cm to degrees Celsius" and it wouldn't tell me! So I tried "convert 8 cm to degrees angle" and all it would tell me was "Convert between degrees and radians" - no use!
But seriously!
Do you realise how little the dip to the horizon is on the globe?
Eye Level Height
   
Dip angle °
5 feet   
   
0.03°   
100 feet   
   
0.15°   
1000 feet   
   
0.49°   
Even at 1000 feet above the horizon it is only about half a degree below eye level. You would never see that and could not reliably measure it with the level app on a phone. A surveyor could easily measure it easiy from a 100' or so, but
You would never see it with your unassisted eye!

Flat Earth Theory:
The earth looks flat, so it must be.
Then guess, bend, imagine, use fake perspective, fake maths (or none) and straight imagination and numerous magic coincidences to explain:
Gravity;
Sunrise and Sunset appearance, direction and times;
the sun and moon keeping the same size all the time;
Stars over the South Pole;
maps;
path of the sun;
moon phases;
solar and lunar eclipses;
and innumerable other things.

When someone claims to have THE TRUTH I immediately know they are trying to sell "snake oil".
Carry on with the floor show!

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2016, 05:51:15 AM »
Well, on an infinite flat plane the horizon would always be at eye level.
No, it should still be lower.  Only on a concave Earth should it rise up.  Regardless, it isn't true that it is always at eye level anyway.
I agree with the part that it is not always at eye level.
But on a flat infinite plane, regardless of your altitude the horizon would be at eye level. If it were angled downward, your line of sight would intersect the plane after a finite distance, so the sky and the earth can not meet there. I do not know how to express this clearly, I can draw a diagram of this if you want.
On a flat infinite plane it may appear at eye level but that is the same illusion as with a globe.  It would still be below a level line from your line of sight.

Not my picture but someone else's showing the horizon is in reality below eye level
http://h.dropcanvas.com/kidnc/theodoliteairplane.jpg
Measure the amount of degrees from your neck to your chin when looking straight at sea level, then while your going up, measure the difference in degrees that your chin makes the more you look down... if you get any results other than no difference... you might be blind.   Have a great day
Sorry, I really tried to find "the amount of degrees from your neck to your chin", but it was about 8 cm! So I tried "convert 8 cm to degrees Celsius" and it wouldn't tell me! So I tried "convert 8 cm to degrees angle" and all it would tell me was "Convert between degrees and radians" - no use!
But seriously!
Do you realise how little the dip to the horizon is on the globe?
Eye Level Height
   
Dip angle °
5 feet   
   
0.03°   
100 feet   
   
0.15°   
1000 feet   
   
0.49°   
Even at 1000 feet above the horizon it is only about half a degree below eye level. You would never see that and could not reliably measure it with the level app on a phone. A surveyor could easily measure it easiy from a 100' or so, but
You would never see it with your unassisted eye!

Flat Earth Theory:
The earth looks flat, so it must be.
Then guess, bend, imagine, use fake perspective, fake maths (or none) and straight imagination and numerous magic coincidences to explain:
Gravity;
Sunrise and Sunset appearance, direction and times;
the sun and moon keeping the same size all the time;
Stars over the South Pole;
maps;
path of the sun;
moon phases;
solar and lunar eclipses;
and innumerable other things.

When someone claims to have THE TRUTH I immediately know they are trying to sell "snake oil".
Carry on with the floor show!

The fact that you see more land the higher you go, and not a curve proves the earth is flat.



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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2016, 06:15:58 AM »
Well, on an infinite flat plane the horizon would always be at eye level.
No, it should still be lower.  Only on a concave Earth should it rise up.  Regardless, it isn't true that it is always at eye level anyway.
I agree with the part that it is not always at eye level.
But on a flat infinite plane, regardless of your altitude the horizon would be at eye level. If it were angled downward, your line of sight would intersect the plane after a finite distance, so the sky and the earth can not meet there. I do not know how to express this clearly, I can draw a diagram of this if you want.
On a flat infinite plane it may appear at eye level but that is the same illusion as with a globe.  It would still be below a level line from your line of sight.

Not my picture but someone else's showing the horizon is in reality below eye level
http://h.dropcanvas.com/kidnc/theodoliteairplane.jpg
Measure the amount of degrees from your neck to your chin when looking straight at sea level, then while your going up, measure the difference in degrees that your chin makes the more you look down... if you get any results other than no difference... you might be blind.   Have a great day
Sorry, I really tried to find "the amount of degrees from your neck to your chin", but it was about 8 cm! So I tried "convert 8 cm to degrees Celsius" and it wouldn't tell me! So I tried "convert 8 cm to degrees angle" and all it would tell me was "Convert between degrees and radians" - no use!
But seriously!
Do you realise how little the dip to the horizon is on the globe?
Eye Level Height
   
Dip angle °
5 feet   
   
0.03°   
100 feet   
   
0.15°   
1000 feet   
   
0.49°   
Even at 1000 feet above the horizon it is only about half a degree below eye level. You would never see that and could not reliably measure it with the level app on a phone. A surveyor could easily measure it easiy from a 100' or so, but
You would never see it with your unassisted eye!

Flat Earth Theory:
The earth looks flat, so it must be.
Then guess, bend, imagine, use fake perspective, fake maths (or none) and straight imagination and numerous magic coincidences to explain:
Gravity;
Sunrise and Sunset appearance, direction and times;
the sun and moon keeping the same size all the time;
Stars over the South Pole;
maps;
path of the sun;
moon phases;
solar and lunar eclipses;
and innumerable other things.

When someone claims to have THE TRUTH I immediately know they are trying to sell "snake oil".
Carry on with the floor show!

The fact that you see more land the higher you go, and not a curve proves the earth is flat.



https://www.spreaker.com/episode/8804514
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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2016, 06:30:39 AM »
The horizon and seeing it further at eye level due to height is 100% absolute proof that the Earth is absolutely not a globe.

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2016, 06:37:44 AM »
The horizon and seeing it further at eye level due to height is 100% absolute proof that the Earth is absolutely not a globe.

I have recently (yesterday) performed an experiment, the results favor a Spherical model.   8)

The horizon is below eye level as expected on a globe.

sea level    = 0.01- 0.03 degrees (reading unstable)
2  m    = 0.04 degrees
5  m   = 0.07 degrees
10 m  = 0.11 degrees
20 m  = 0.17 degrees
30 m  = 0.24 degrees
40 m = 0.32 (Horizon contrast not clear enough for accuracy as hazyness was present)

Experement 2

Measure the Distance to the Horizon in Kilometers from a known altitude

2m   = 4.67
5m   = 8.03
10m = 11.36
20m = 16.05
30m = 19.64
40m = 22.10

Extra
Measure the elevation angle of Polaris
Result: 51.42 degrees


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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2016, 06:39:32 AM »
The horizon and seeing it further at eye level due to height is 100% absolute proof that the Earth is absolutely not a globe.
You do not understand the definition of the horizon.

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2016, 06:50:13 AM »
The horizon and seeing it further at eye level due to height is 100% absolute proof that the Earth is absolutely not a globe.

I have recently (yesterday) performed an experiment, the results favor a Spherical model.   8)

The horizon is below eye level as expected on a globe.

sea level    = 0.01- 0.03 degrees (reading unstable)
2  m    = 0.04 degrees
5  m   = 0.07 degrees
10 m  = 0.11 degrees
20 m  = 0.17 degrees
30 m  = 0.24 degrees
40 m = 0.32 (Horizon contrast not clear enough for accuracy as hazyness was present)

Experement 2

Measure the Distance to the Horizon in Kilometers from a known altitude

2m   = 4.67
5m   = 8.03
10m = 11.36
20m = 16.05
30m = 19.64
40m = 22.10

Extra
Measure the elevation angle of Polaris
Result: 51.42 degrees
Your degrees would only count if the terrain wasn't curved.

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2016, 06:53:19 AM »
The horizon and seeing it further at eye level due to height is 100% absolute proof that the Earth is absolutely not a globe.

I have recently (yesterday) performed an experiment, the results favor a Spherical model.   8)

The horizon is below eye level as expected on a globe.

sea level    = 0.01- 0.03 degrees (reading unstable)
2  m    = 0.04 degrees
5  m   = 0.07 degrees
10 m  = 0.11 degrees
20 m  = 0.17 degrees
30 m  = 0.24 degrees
40 m = 0.32 (Horizon contrast not clear enough for accuracy as hazyness was present)

Experement 2

Measure the Distance to the Horizon in Kilometers from a known altitude

2m   = 4.67
5m   = 8.03
10m = 11.36
20m = 16.05
30m = 19.64
40m = 22.10

Extra
Measure the elevation angle of Polaris
Result: 51.42 degrees
Your degrees would only count if the terrain wasn't curved.
Please explain your issue with the measurements in detail.

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Re: 100% PROOF OF FLAT EARTH WITH PODCAST
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2016, 07:30:04 AM »
The horizon and seeing it further at eye level due to height is 100% absolute proof that the Earth is absolutely not a globe.

I have recently (yesterday) performed an experiment, the results favor a Spherical model.   8)

The horizon is below eye level as expected on a globe.

sea level    = 0.01- 0.03 degrees (reading unstable)
2  m    = 0.04 degrees
5  m   = 0.07 degrees
10 m  = 0.11 degrees
20 m  = 0.17 degrees
30 m  = 0.24 degrees
40 m = 0.32 (Horizon contrast not clear enough for accuracy as hazyness was present)

Experement 2

Measure the Distance to the Horizon in Kilometers from a known altitude

2m   = 4.67
5m   = 8.03
10m = 11.36
20m = 16.05
30m = 19.64
40m = 22.10

Extra
Measure the elevation angle of Polaris
Result: 51.42 degrees
Your degrees would only count if the terrain wasn't curved.
Please explain your issue with the measurements in detail.

I would also like a full explanation of this statement. Its my experiment, I understand the results and what they show..... Do you?