What is under the Flat Earth?

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What is under the Flat Earth?
« on: January 15, 2016, 04:24:23 PM »
Physically i'm absolutely convinced that the earth is not a ball. It's not possible to explain these world with a round earth. It must be flat.
Now i heard there is not just space under the earthplate, so what exactly could be there-> Talk about your opinions and try to prove them/ find evidence.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2016, 04:34:44 PM by Maimo »
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2016, 05:38:53 PM »
smaug. His vast and powerful wings accelerate the earth to produce what round earthers call gravity.

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2016, 05:45:28 PM »
Some say it's the UA. Others say it's four elephants and a tortoise. All we know is it's called the Stig.
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2016, 05:54:18 PM »
The other side.
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2016, 06:05:55 PM »
It's funny to see how there are trolls all over this forum just to, yet again, spread lies about the earth being in some sort of "spherical" shape.

Trolling is the reaction to something you don't understand, keep this in mind or leave.  ;)

Now something related to the topic:
Very interesting question indeed! The odds, that we have some giant mystic creature laying beneath the earth aren't very high...

What would make more sense is, that the earth has big supports that prevent it from moving around too much.
I wonder how exactly they look like, because I obviously never saw them  ???, but we know: every truth is based on a logical thought!

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2016, 06:10:35 PM »
It's funny to see how there are trolls all over this forum just to, yet again, spread lies about the earth being in some sort of "spherical" shape.

Trolling is the reaction to something you don't understand, keep this in mind or leave.  ;)

Now something related to the topic:
Very interesting question indeed! The odds, that we have some giant mystic creature laying beneath the earth aren't very high...

What would make more sense is, that the earth has big supports that prevent it from moving around too much.
I wonder how exactly they look like, because I obviously never saw them  ???, but we know: every truth is based on a logical thought!

Your right, I usually put my plates on the table at dinner time, so logically thinking our earth absolutely must sit on a giant table.  :o


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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2016, 06:25:47 PM »
It's funny to see how there are trolls all over this forum just to, yet again, spread lies about the earth being in some sort of "spherical" shape.

Trolling is the reaction to something you don't understand, keep this in mind or leave.  ;)

Now something related to the topic:
Very interesting question indeed! The odds, that we have some giant mystic creature laying beneath the earth aren't very high...

What would make more sense is, that the earth has big supports that prevent it from moving around too much.
I wonder how exactly they look like, because I obviously never saw them  ???, but we know: every truth is based on a logical thought!

Your right, I usually put my plates on the table at dinner time, so logically thinking our earth absolutely must sit on a giant table.  :o

My right is, that you usually put your plates on the table at dinner time?
That right is nice to have, I'll take it! Thank you for letting me control your ability to put plates on tables.

What bothers me is, that you finished your sentence in a very weird way... it started so nice

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2016, 06:58:44 PM »
Your right, I usually put my plates on the table at dinner time, so logically thinking our earth absolutely must sit on a giant table.  :o

Why not a giant dishwasher,   you know,  the waters above,  the rotating celestial sphere,   it all fits.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2016, 07:23:26 PM by Rayzor »
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2016, 07:56:12 PM »
Space and Dark Energy. 


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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2016, 02:28:28 AM »
Depends who you ask.
Four elephants and a turtle, Australia, magma from the force accelerating it, nothing because there is no under...
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2016, 03:42:42 AM »
I have to repeat what I said at the beginning:
try to prove them/ find evidence
The ones who posted answers like A giant Jamaican ; a prostitute ; a dishwasher.... try to find logical answers! There is no logical way to prove objects like dishwashers.
People who think there is a round earth and begin to troll, as a reaction to something they don't understand, aren't trustworthy.
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Trolling is the reaction to something you don't understand, keep this in mind or leave.  ;)

But there are also answers which are logical and provable.
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big supports that prevent it from moving around too much.
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Some say it's the UA
are good points. Both seem to be provable.
Also there could be
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Space and Dark Energy.

Now let's talk about this suggestion! What do you think about Supports to prevent the earth from moving too much ; the UA (Universal Acceleration) or just nothing / space / dark energy?
How are these suggestions provable?
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2016, 03:51:00 AM »
How are these suggestions provable?
By developing proper scientific approach. Or using already existing science (!) to prove these are fallacies.

But since the FES doesn't do any real science, just speculations, assertions, claims, missinterpertations of the 99% of current science etc, nothing will be done in that manner.

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2016, 04:32:56 AM »
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But since the FES doesn't do any real science, just speculations, assertions, claims, missinterpertations of the 99% of current science etc, nothing will be done in that manner.
I wonder about who doesn't do any real science ;)  The people who see that a round world isn't possible and we're getting manipulated by the leaders of our world or the people who are blinded and manipulated. You say FES isn't doing any real science? Just speculation? We do science, we're looking for logical methods to explain our world and the whole universe. People who believe in round earth always start trolling if they don't know something and start writing things like there could be also a dragon under the earth or a dishwasher. At the same moment FE-people are looking for scientific answers to any questions!
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2016, 04:34:12 AM »
Why don't you start argumenting scientific? Why do you just say that FES is wrong? If you're right show your arguments!
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2016, 05:44:28 AM »
I wonder about who doesn't do any real science ;) 
I wonder what kind of science did you perform. I prefer theoretical approach, usually based on numbers. I shared few simple ideas in multiple threads on this forum. Some of them destroyed FE argument that no FEer ever bothered fixing. Yet.

The people who see that a round world isn't possible and we're getting manipulated by the leaders of our world
I can't see why a round world isn't impossible nor I can't see we're getting manipulated. I have pretty good scientific mind and I can think of myself.

 
or the people who are blinded and manipulated.
You mean those uneducated people who are easily manipulated into believing the Earth is flat and they can take any rubbish "proof" or
"argument" for real as an ultimate knowledge? I saw hundreds of such people across the youtube. They differ no more than the people described by you.

You say FES isn't doing any real science? Just speculation? We do science, we're looking for logical methods to explain our world and the whole universe.
Since the FES base their "scientific" knowledge on XIX century book, yes.

Btw, current science does the same as you described. But it is likely that most FEers simply reject them. Because? I don't know. Maybe non-existing conspiracy? On the other hand, FE science is rejected, because it doesn't satisfy the definition of science. Usually.

People who believe in round earth always start trolling if they don't know something and start writing things like there could be also a dragon under the earth or a dishwasher.
They troll because this forum lacks of any real scientific approach. Most threads where FEers argument anything are based on ad hoc explainations, lack of evidence and unjustified claims.

At the same moment FE-people are looking for scientific answers to any questions!
I believe some are.

I can tell you that I got to know that there are only speculations on what is on the other side. Someone claim there is UA that somehow acts on the entire universe, someone claim there is just bunch of rocks that are the source of meteors. Someone even claim that Russians made a 10km+ drill to dig into the other side. 

Why don't you start argumenting scientific?
I tried. Most of the time I brough some serious argument, I received no real answer or I was ignored.


Why do you just say that FES is wrong?
Because I provided serious arguments, that were ignored. Because some of FE"T" parts are internally contradicting and noone has ever bothered providing me anything but hand-waving and inderict answers.

If you're right show your arguments!
Right about what? The Earth isn't flat? Simple - Sun sets are impossible on FE (because they parot Rowbotham, who had 0 idea about the perspective). That is it. One argument is enough to show that the model is wrong. And since it refers to basics, that is even worse for the model.

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2016, 08:11:34 AM »

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2016, 08:42:56 AM »
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2016, 09:08:03 AM »
Space and Dark Energy.
This seems the most logical.


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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2016, 11:07:33 AM »
Space and Dark Energy.
This seems the most logical.

I agree!

Could you also tell us why you think it's most logical? :)
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2016, 05:10:30 PM »
I'm going to be sceptimatic here  8)

What if the Sun is the reflection of the bottom, other side of the earth? I mean if there is a top then there must be a bottom right? And what if the Moon is the reflection of the top of the earth? This could explain why they look the same size. The earth could be in a closed system, a dome. So no need for gravity. And everything we see up there could all be just reflections or something. Yes I know this probably goes against all round earth and flat earth science.
 
I'm just thinking out loud here to make people think. I don't believe all this at all.
 
By the way why is it a taboo to talk about the possibility of the Moon being the reflection of the Earth? Even in here of all places! There is not even one proper video about it on Youtube! Yes it is ridiculous but there are more ridiculous stuff out there that people debate about every day?

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2016, 05:24:24 PM »
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What if the Sun is the reflection of the bottom, other side of the earth? I mean if there is a top then there must be a bottom right? And what if the Moon is the reflection of the top of the earth?
But the moon is mostly grey, the earth is mostly blue and green, how can it be a reflection?
Maybe i missunderstood you, please let me know more of your theory.

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The earth could be in a closed system, a dome. So no need for gravity.
So you would confirm that there is no acceleration? What forces us down? Do you agree (like me) to the theory that "gravity" is Air Pressure?

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I'm just thinking out loud here to make people think.
yeah very nice! That's what we need here! In opinion  ;)

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I don't believe all this at all.
So you believe in round earth?

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By the way why is it a taboo to talk about the possibility of the Moon being the reflection of the Earth?
I don't think it's a taboo, please tell me more about your theory!
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2016, 06:30:07 PM »
Why don't you start argumenting scientific? Why do you just say that FES is wrong? If you're right show your arguments!

There is approximately 2000 years worth of data and experiments that suggest the earth is round and spins, data and experiments that pre-date any current government or organisation by orders of magnitude. If you'd like to argue for a flat earth, as opposed to arguing against a round earth, it's time to go out and collect your supporting data/experiments and present them to the world for review and critical evaluation. So far no current flat earther has got past the forum and YouTube stage, would you like to be the first?
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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2016, 05:46:54 PM »
Space and Dark Energy.
This seems the most logical.

I agree!

Could you also tell us why you think it's most logical? :)
Just my opinion, as I honestly have no idea what could be below.
I find it much more logical than anything else purported here though - turtles and stuff.


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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2016, 02:03:26 AM »
Well, I believe that under the flat earth there is a nother society where they also believe that that their earth is round! Our planet is like a coin! There are two sides!!! But Obama and Vladimir Putin are trying to hide the other society!

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2016, 04:04:59 AM »
Well, I believe that under the flat earth there is a nother society where they also believe that that their earth is round! Our planet is like a coin! There are two sides!!! But Obama and Vladimir Putin are trying to hide the other society!

Is it possible to flip this coin?  Like a coin toss?  ???

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2016, 04:30:39 PM »
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What if the Sun is the reflection of the bottom, other side of the earth? I mean if there is a top then there must be a bottom right? And what if the Moon is the reflection of the top of the earth?
But the moon is mostly grey, the earth is mostly blue and green, how can it be a reflection?
Maybe i missunderstood you, please let me know more of your theory. Maybe that is just how we see the Moon from Earth. What if the Earth is much bigger than what we have been told. What if what we see are mostly ice and the darker parts are land and water? Oh and the Earth is not all blue and green!
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The earth could be in a closed system, a dome. So no need for gravity.
So you would confirm that there is no acceleration? What forces us down? Do you agree (like me) to the theory that "gravity" is Air Pressure? Could it be anything else then Air Pressure?

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I'm just thinking out loud here to make people think.
yeah very nice! That's what we need here! In opinion  ;)

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I don't believe all this at all.
So you believe in round earth? No comment  :D

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By the way why is it a taboo to talk about the possibility of the Moon being the reflection of the Earth?
I don't think it's a taboo, please tell me more about your theory!
Ask Charming Anarchist he or she seems to be really into all this  :)

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2016, 04:37:17 PM »
Why don't you start argumenting scientific? Why do you just say that FES is wrong? If you're right show your arguments!

There is approximately 2000 years worth of data and experiments that suggest the earth is round and spins, data and experiments that pre-date any current government or organisation by orders of magnitude. If you'd like to argue for a flat earth, as opposed to arguing against a round earth, it's time to go out and collect your supporting data/experiments and present them to the world for review and critical evaluation. So far no current flat earther has got past the forum and YouTube stage, would you like to be the first?
Wouldn't it be more believable if all those data and experiments were recent rather than  "approximately 2000 years" old?

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2016, 10:06:43 PM »
Why don't you start argumenting scientific? Why do you just say that FES is wrong? If you're right show your arguments!

There is approximately 2000 years worth of data and experiments that suggest the earth is round and spins, data and experiments that pre-date any current government or organisation by orders of magnitude. If you'd like to argue for a flat earth, as opposed to arguing against a round earth, it's time to go out and collect your supporting data/experiments and present them to the world for review and critical evaluation. So far no current flat earther has got past the forum and YouTube stage, would you like to be the first?
Wouldn't it be more believable if all those data and experiments were recent rather than  "approximately 2000 years" old?

What was said was "There is approximately 2000 years worth of data and experiments that suggest the earth is round and spins", not that the data was 2000 years old - there is a big difference! 

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2016, 02:49:29 PM »
Why don't you start argumenting scientific? Why do you just say that FES is wrong? If you're right show your arguments!

There is approximately 2000 years worth of data and experiments that suggest the earth is round and spins, data and experiments that pre-date any current government or organisation by orders of magnitude. If you'd like to argue for a flat earth, as opposed to arguing against a round earth, it's time to go out and collect your supporting data/experiments and present them to the world for review and critical evaluation. So far no current flat earther has got past the forum and YouTube stage, would you like to be the first?
Wouldn't it be more believable if all those data and experiments were recent rather than  "approximately 2000 years" old?

What was said was "There is approximately 2000 years worth of data and experiments that suggest the earth is round and spins", not that the data was 2000 years old - there is a big difference!
My point was why should we rely on  "data and experiments" that goes back thousands of years!     Hellooo it's 2016 !

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Re: What is under the Flat Earth?
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2016, 02:51:34 PM »
My point was why should we rely on  "data and experiments" that goes back thousands of years!     Hellooo it's 2016 !
Should we then reject Pythagoras' theorem? That goes back thousands of years.
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