question about the suns vanishing point.

I got a question about the flat earth sun set. possibly I'm just not understanding a part of it. I'm sure its been discussed but I don't want to sift through piles of forum posts.

In the flat earth idea, the sun sets, because the sun gets far enough away that it goes out of sight. is that accurate?

When I lay on the beach and the sun sets it goes out of sight meaning it is X distance away which is the distance required for a bright object like the sun to go out of sight (in the flat earth model).
I then stand up and can see the sun again but I'm still the same distance away. How is this occurring?
like I said I'm probably just missing something in the flat earth sun set model.

I've asked this same question.

I then stand up and can see the sun again but I'm still the same distance away. How is this occurring?

Can you? Can you really?
Seriously, that'd refute RET there and then if you could. Or you're a giant. The angle you gain from standing up would be negligible when it comes to trying to see the Sun.

Quote from: Mbecks on January 13, 2016, 09:47:05 AM

I then stand up and can see the sun again but I'm still the same distance away. How is this occurring?

Can you? Can you really?
Seriously, that'd refute RET there and then if you could. Or you're a giant. The angle you gain from standing up would be negligible when it comes to trying to see the Sun.

Nope, it is not negligible. Many people have tried this. The angle isn't negligible. However, you won't see the whole sun reappearing, only part of it will reappear. Google it.

Nope, it is not negligible. Many people have tried this. The angle isn't negligible. However, you won't see the whole sun reappearing, only part of it will reappear. Google it.

I googled it, the main result seems to be this site, and no actual account of it being done or working.

Besides, to be honest I'd blame that observation on obstructions at sea level, like waves.

Quote from: Master_Evar on January 13, 2016, 09:54:54 AM

Nope, it is not negligible. Many people have tried this. The angle isn't negligible. However, you won't see the whole sun reappearing, only part of it will reappear. Google it.

I googled it, the main result seems to be this site, and no actual account of it being done or working.

Besides, to be honest I'd blame that observation on obstructions at sea level, like waves.

Yeah. However, there is Burj Khalifa and many other tall buildings from which you can do this way better, and which there is much more information about, including videos etc.

regardless it can be done on something taller so the same concept works. Now I'm waiting to find out how it works in a flat earth believers world, I'm not trying to use this to refute there beliefs I'm just trying to see how they explain it.

Yeah. However, there is Burj Khalifa and many other tall buildings from which you can do this way better, and which there is much more information about, including videos etc.

Yep, that one's true. Just pointing out the sea level notion is likely nonsense.

Just for fun, it should also be pointed out that the opposite would be expected under FET: if the Sun is like a spotlight, and can't be seen when viewed from the side (hence why it vanishes in the distance), then when you get higher you'll be closer to it, and so have an angle much more aligned with the side.
We'd expect the Sun to vanish faster with altitude, under FET.

Quote from: Master_Evar on January 13, 2016, 11:22:33 AM

Yeah. However, there is Burj Khalifa and many other tall buildings from which you can do this way better, and which there is much more information about, including videos etc.

Yep, that one's true. Just pointing out the sea level notion is likely nonsense.

Just for fun, it should also be pointed out that the opposite would be expected under FET: if the Sun is like a spotlight, and can't be seen when viewed from the side (hence why it vanishes in the distance), then when you get higher you'll be closer to it, and so have an angle much more aligned with the side.
We'd expect the Sun to vanish faster with altitude, under FET.

Yup. They don't really think ahead when coming up with things.

why do no flat earther comment on my posts, kind of makes posting discussions pointless.

why do no flat earther comment on my posts, kind of makes posting discussions pointless.

1. They don't have an answer

2. They're busy doing something else

3. They'll claim that this has been answered already

It is yet another failed myth of FE.

Human's eye resolution is ~1 arcminute. That translates to 0.3m object seen from ~1km.

The Sun is alleged to be ~50km in diameter. That means the shape of the Sun would hit human's limitations once the Sun is 1,666,667 km away.

Another FE myth busted.

why do no flat earther comment on my posts, kind of makes posting discussions pointless.

I have that problem too.  I hope it's simply that they have no answer, maybe it's just me (us) ?
Should we collect these post and make a new thread: "The unanswerables" - maybe "The Untouchables"?

Quote from: Mbecks on January 13, 2016, 05:53:25 PM

why do no flat earther comment on my posts, kind of makes posting discussions pointless.

I have that problem too.  I hope it's simply that they have no answer, maybe it's just me (us) ?
Should we collect these post and make a new thread: "The unanswerables" - maybe "The Untouchables"?

I LOVE this idea. I'm not patient t enough to do it though.