Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #150 on: December 09, 2015, 10:50:18 AM »
Still no answer, have I falsified the flat earth theory? Yay! Not going to stop asking untill I get an answer from a FET believer.
P.S. This is directed at FET, not DET.

DET is a specific FE model. If you don't falsify DET, you haven't falsified FET.

MET is THE flat earth theory, I advise you all to read it!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65033.0#.Vmh4EXYvfIU

If it's flat, that would be very interesting for science

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #151 on: December 09, 2015, 11:13:23 AM »
I meant my argument is directed at the single disk universal accerlerator model. I already know that the gravity measurments are consistant with DET. Its the UA model I want an answer from.

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #152 on: December 09, 2015, 11:31:13 AM »
Still no answer, have I falsified the flat earth theory? Yay! Not going to stop asking untill I get an answer from a FET believer.
P.S. This is directed at FET, not DET.

DET is a specific FE model. If you don't falsify DET, you haven't falsified FET.

MET is THE flat earth theory, I advise you all to read it!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65033.0#.Vmh4EXYvfIU

Why are you torlling? Is it that hard for you to actually mount a logical argument, that you need to resort to spamming a straw man? pathetic.
http://fet.wikia.com
dualearththeory.proboards.com/
On the sister site if you want to talk.

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #153 on: December 09, 2015, 11:34:49 AM »
Still no answer, have I falsified the flat earth theory? Yay! Not going to stop asking untill I get an answer from a FET believer.
P.S. This is directed at FET, not DET.

DET is a specific FE model. If you don't falsify DET, you haven't falsified FET.

MET is THE flat earth theory, I advise you all to read it!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65033.0#.Vmh4EXYvfIU

Why are you torlling? Is it that hard for you to actually mount a logical argument, that you need to resort to spamming a straw man? pathetic.

He's simply mirroring you. Maybe you should take a look at yourself before calling people pathetic. Maybe you're the one who's pathetic here.
Quā ratiōne nōn redimus ad senectēs societātēs sapientium patrum? Quā ratiōne relinquimus eārum sapientiam?

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #154 on: December 09, 2015, 11:44:25 AM »
Still no answer, have I falsified the flat earth theory? Yay! Not going to stop asking untill I get an answer from a FET believer.
P.S. This is directed at FET, not DET.

DET is a specific FE model. If you don't falsify DET, you haven't falsified FET.

MET is THE flat earth theory, I advise you all to read it!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65033.0#.Vmh4EXYvfIU

Why are you torlling? Is it that hard for you to actually mount a logical argument, that you need to resort to spamming a straw man? pathetic.

He's simply mirroring you. Maybe you should take a look at yourself before calling people pathetic. Maybe you're the one who's pathetic here.

And you know that's not true. I reference a working model described in detail with evidence presented and logic backing it up. He references a pathetic attempt at parody with next to nothing in common.
Get a fucking life. How about you try an honest discussion rather than the typical circlejerk of REers?
http://fet.wikia.com
dualearththeory.proboards.com/
On the sister site if you want to talk.

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #155 on: December 09, 2015, 12:03:17 PM »
Still no answer, have I falsified the flat earth theory? Yay! Not going to stop asking untill I get an answer from a FET believer.
P.S. This is directed at FET, not DET.

DET is a specific FE model. If you don't falsify DET, you haven't falsified FET.

MET is THE flat earth theory, I advise you all to read it!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65033.0#.Vmh4EXYvfIU

Why are you torlling? Is it that hard for you to actually mount a logical argument, that you need to resort to spamming a straw man? pathetic.

He's simply mirroring you. Maybe you should take a look at yourself before calling people pathetic. Maybe you're the one who's pathetic here.

And you know that's not true. I reference a working model described in detail with evidence presented and logic backing it up. He references a pathetic attempt at parody with next to nothing in common.
Get a fucking life. How about you try an honest discussion rather than the typical circlejerk of REers?

Really? So you "totally" don't go around and advertise your model whenever someone presents a flaw in the flat Earth model, and you "totally" don't advertise it everywhere else.

Maybe you're just incapable of reading.
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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #156 on: December 09, 2015, 01:37:11 PM »
Still no answer, have I falsified the flat earth theory? Yay! Not going to stop asking untill I get an answer from a FET believer.
P.S. This is directed at FET, not DET.

DET is a specific FE model. If you don't falsify DET, you haven't falsified FET.

MET is THE flat earth theory, I advise you all to read it!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65033.0#.Vmh4EXYvfIU

Why are you torlling? Is it that hard for you to actually mount a logical argument, that you need to resort to spamming a straw man? pathetic.

He's simply mirroring you. Maybe you should take a look at yourself before calling people pathetic. Maybe you're the one who's pathetic here.

And you know that's not true. I reference a working model described in detail with evidence presented and logic backing it up. He references a pathetic attempt at parody with next to nothing in common.
Get a fucking life. How about you try an honest discussion rather than the typical circlejerk of REers?

Really? So you "totally" don't go around and advertise your model whenever someone presents a flaw in the flat Earth model, and you "totally" don't advertise it everywhere else.

Maybe you're just incapable of reading.

When did I claim I didn't? What are you on about?!
DET answers questions, what's your point?
http://fet.wikia.com
dualearththeory.proboards.com/
On the sister site if you want to talk.

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #157 on: December 10, 2015, 05:45:31 AM »
Why don`t we just fly to the edge of the world and go over the cliff? Easy way to prove that the earth is flat....
Oh wait...

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #158 on: December 10, 2015, 08:04:38 AM »
Why don`t we just fly to the edge of the world and go over the cliff? Easy way to prove that the earth is flat....
Oh wait...

If I had the resources, time, and interest, what's stopping me from going to the edge of the earth (and NOT go over the cliff)?
Scripture, facts, science, stats, and logic is how I argue.

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #159 on: December 10, 2015, 08:06:39 AM »
Why don`t we just fly to the edge of the world and go over the cliff? Easy way to prove that the earth is flat....
Oh wait...

If I had the resources, time, and interest, what's stopping me from going to the edge of the earth (and NOT go over the cliff)?

Oh, the flat Earthers are just going to come up with some bullshit excuse along the lines of this for what's "stopping you":
Quote from: Some Flat Earther
hurr durr their r NasA sniprs n gards alongg the  ic e wall hurr .
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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #160 on: December 10, 2015, 10:19:25 AM »
Why don`t we just fly to the edge of the world and go over the cliff? Easy way to prove that the earth is flat....
Oh wait...

It has been theorized that the farther you move south, or rimwards, the farther you get from the sun.  Eventually, you would reach a region in which the sun's light never touches.  At some point, moving rimwards, it would be so cold that the gases in the air would liquefy and precipitate out or the air.  No conventional air craft would be able to fly under these dark, atmoplaneless conditions.  I like your ambition, though. 

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #161 on: December 10, 2015, 10:50:56 AM »
Why don`t we just fly to the edge of the world and go over the cliff? Easy way to prove that the earth is flat....
Oh wait...

It has been theorized that the farther you move south, or rimwards, the farther you get from the sun.  Eventually, you would reach a region in which the sun's light never touches.  At some point, moving rimwards, it would be so cold that the gases in the air would liquefy and precipitate out or the air.  No conventional air craft would be able to fly under these dark, atmoplaneless conditions.  I like your ambition, though.

So, you want to say, that absolutely no one amongst the FE believers has the resource or interest or time to go so far to the south to document even the slightest change in the atmosphere etc.?
On the other hand, there are countless people who went around the (round!) world, either in planes or over land and sea. And not the slightest bit of suspicious against the round earth was documented?

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #162 on: December 11, 2015, 01:18:38 AM »
So, you want to say, that absolutely no one amongst the FE believers has the resource or interest or time to go so far to the south to document even the slightest change in the atmosphere etc.?

But, it has been documented.  The farther south (rimward) you travel in the southern hemiplane, the colder it gets.  Eventually, it gets so cold that the air can no longer support water.  The farther you go, the colder and drier the air gets.  I don't think anyone disagrees with this.  Why are you being disingenuous by claiming that there is no documentation on the changes in the "Atmosphere" when traveling rimward?

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #163 on: December 11, 2015, 01:35:25 AM »
Okay, there is change in the atmosphere. There are seasons for example. And if you travel farther and farther, you come back to your staring point. That is because the earth is round. But of course I haven`t observed it myself. But I believe the millions of scientists that proved it over and over and over again and like everything speaks for a round earth.

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #164 on: December 11, 2015, 01:38:03 AM »
if you travel farther and farther, you come back to your staring point. That is because the earth is round.

Sounds like this is a biased thought experiment.  Perhaps you should try to keep an open mind?

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #165 on: December 11, 2015, 03:42:18 AM »
  At some point, moving rimwards, it would be so cold that the gases in the air would liquefy and precipitate out or the air. 
In theory, yes. But there is no proof that this is the case for the Earth. There is the opposite - vertical circumnagivation of the globe, which includes passing the Antarctica continent along meridians. There is also a station few thousands km inside the Antarctica land where people leave and work.

Also, should I remind you that talking about seasons has no point since the estimated 3000 miles value is flawed? Before providing an argument based on the Sun motion and its altitude, you should first solve that problem.

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #166 on: December 11, 2015, 05:12:17 AM »
  At some point, moving rimwards, it would be so cold that the gases in the air would liquefy and precipitate out or the air. 
In theory, yes. But there is no proof that this is the case for the Earth. There is the opposite - vertical circumnagivation of the globe, which includes passing the Antarctica continent along meridians. There is also a station few thousands km inside the Antarctica land where people leave and work.

Also, should I remind you that talking about seasons has no point since the estimated 3000 miles value is flawed? Before providing an argument based on the Sun motion and its altitude, you should first solve that problem.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but circumnavigation while staying on only one meridian has never happened.  It is just a fairy tale or myth that you people seem to think is a fact, but can never provide any evidence of. 

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Re: Physics Student here- Can you explain these flaws in the FE theory?
« Reply #167 on: December 11, 2015, 11:08:23 PM »
Sorry to burst your bubble, but circumnavigation while staying on only one meridian has never happened.
I have never stated that. Your reading between lines lead you to non-existing opinion that you made to discredit something.

Anyway, as stated earlier, you do not know how far is the Sun and do not know what is really far behind the wall (conditions etc), your comments can be described as follows:
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It is just a fairy tale or myth that you people seem to think is a fact, but can never provide any evidence of.