Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on June 14, 2015, 01:39:03 PM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on June 14, 2015, 01:13:25 PM

Quote from: JohnTitor on June 11, 2015, 12:07:56 PM

The heart of the machine is founded upon manipulating strings of matter. It relies upon an electromagnet, and a sufficiently large mass (mine relies upon solid ununoctonium, an isotope with 179 neutrons).

This sounds very similar to unobtainium - will this not do?

Actually sounds like Ununoctium, which is a temporary name given to a newly discovered element. Id give him +1 point for an appropriate name, but -1 for not realizing that once the element is established it would get a proper name. Unless its proper name is ununoctonium, and not incorrectly spelt Ununoctium in which case he gets his point back.

edit he loses his point to the already named Unseptennium which will fill the spot with 179 neutrons

Unseptennium is a different element. It is ununoctonium I referred to (or perhaps ununoctium, convention changes. Unium, Dunium, Trinium... are terms used in dimensional research, there may have been a shift in standard) due to the number of protons. The isotope with 179 neutrons is the kind I use.

It does have another name, I just refuse to use it. It's named after a CERN scientist who was instrumental in EntrückungNacht, I refuse to honor him.

Using someone's name does not honour them.  I can say Hitler or Stalin without implying they were great guys.

Quote from: JohnTitor on June 14, 2015, 02:53:57 PM

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on June 14, 2015, 01:39:03 PM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on June 14, 2015, 01:13:25 PM

Quote from: JohnTitor on June 11, 2015, 12:07:56 PM

The heart of the machine is founded upon manipulating strings of matter. It relies upon an electromagnet, and a sufficiently large mass (mine relies upon solid ununoctonium, an isotope with 179 neutrons).

This sounds very similar to unobtainium - will this not do?

Actually sounds like Ununoctium, which is a temporary name given to a newly discovered element. Id give him +1 point for an appropriate name, but -1 for not realizing that once the element is established it would get a proper name. Unless its proper name is ununoctonium, and not incorrectly spelt Ununoctium in which case he gets his point back.

edit he loses his point to the already named Unseptennium which will fill the spot with 179 neutrons

Unseptennium is a different element. It is ununoctonium I referred to (or perhaps ununoctium, convention changes. Unium, Dunium, Trinium... are terms used in dimensional research, there may have been a shift in standard) due to the number of protons. The isotope with 179 neutrons is the kind I use.

It does have another name, I just refuse to use it. It's named after a CERN scientist who was instrumental in EntrückungNacht, I refuse to honor him.

Using someone's name does not honour them.  I can say Hitler or Stalin without implying they were great guys.

Then why was Stalingrad changed to Volgograd?  Or do you not understand the difference between mentioning someone's name and naming something significant after them?

Quote from: JohnTitor on June 14, 2015, 02:53:57 PM

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on June 14, 2015, 01:39:03 PM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on June 14, 2015, 01:13:25 PM

Quote from: JohnTitor on June 11, 2015, 12:07:56 PM

The heart of the machine is founded upon manipulating strings of matter. It relies upon an electromagnet, and a sufficiently large mass (mine relies upon solid ununoctonium, an isotope with 179 neutrons).

This sounds very similar to unobtainium - will this not do?

Actually sounds like Ununoctium, which is a temporary name given to a newly discovered element. Id give him +1 point for an appropriate name, but -1 for not realizing that once the element is established it would get a proper name. Unless its proper name is ununoctonium, and not incorrectly spelt Ununoctium in which case he gets his point back.

edit he loses his point to the already named Unseptennium which will fill the spot with 179 neutrons

Unseptennium is a different element. It is ununoctonium I referred to (or perhaps ununoctium, convention changes. Unium, Dunium, Trinium... are terms used in dimensional research, there may have been a shift in standard) due to the number of protons. The isotope with 179 neutrons is the kind I use.

It does have another name, I just refuse to use it. It's named after a CERN scientist who was instrumental in EntrückungNacht, I refuse to honor him.

Using someone's name does not honour them.  I can say Hitler or Stalin without implying they were great guys.

As Markjo said, my problem is not with saying his name, it is with naming something I rely on after him.

My father owns an  IBM 5100.

I can ask him if he'd be willing to part with it, but I sincerely doubt it. He is a computer engineer and is very protective of his electronics. I guess it won't hurt to ask though.

My father owns an  IBM 5100.

I can ask him if he'd be willing to part with it, but I sincerely doubt it. He is a computer engineer and is very protective of his electronics. I guess it won't hurt to ask though.

If he's not willing to lend it, if you can let me know where he got it from (time and place), that would be fine. I could borrow it and put it back before anyone noticed.

John, for someone with a time machine, you seem to be pretty set on doing things the hard way.  Why not just go back to when the 5100 was in production and a whole lot easier to find? 

John, for someone with a time machine, you seem to be pretty set on doing things the hard way.  Why not just go back to when the 5100 was in production and a whole lot easier to find?

That is next on my list. I'm in this era for personal reasons.
That is not as simple as you think. I don't have any currency for this time that I didn't earn while here, let alone some that's useful at that time, and from what I understand they were very expensive. They might be easier to find, but they're inaccessible. In this time, they're less useful: I may be able to convince someone to let me borrow one, or find out some point in the past when some IBM 5100 would have been more accessible.

Just go steal it. Nobody will say, "Hey, that guy stole an IBM 5100 from me decades ago, and hasn't aged at all!!"

I called my father. He's not willing to part with it because he's not convinced of the reasons given, but he informed me that there's a listing for the same computer on Ebay. You can find it here. Maybe you should've done this to begin with?

Quote from: markjo on June 17, 2015, 04:20:13 PM

John, for someone with a time machine, you seem to be pretty set on doing things the hard way.  Why not just go back to when the 5100 was in production and a whole lot easier to find?

That is next on my list. I'm in this era for personal reasons.
That is not as simple as you think. I don't have any currency for this time that I didn't earn while here, let alone some that's useful at that time, and from what I understand they were very expensive. They might be easier to find, but they're inaccessible. In this time, they're less useful: I may be able to convince someone to let me borrow one, or find out some point in the past when some IBM 5100 would have been more accessible.

But just the post prior, you said you could go back and borrow one and no one would even notice

Quote from: homo superior on June 17, 2015, 02:09:39 PM

My father owns an  IBM 5100.

I can ask him if he'd be willing to part with it, but I sincerely doubt it. He is a computer engineer and is very protective of his electronics. I guess it won't hurt to ask though.

If he's not willing to lend it, if you can let me know where he got it from (time and place), that would be fine. I could borrow it and put it back before anyone noticed.

See?  Why not just go back to when they were being made, borrow one, then put it back before anyone noticed?

As markjo said, just go back to the time when they were in abundance or even go back to the time when they were becoming obsolete and pick one up for next to nothing, or even nothing.

You're backing yourself into a corner being an imposter of John Titor original. If you're smart, which you appear to be in terms of writing this shi...stuff, then you wouldn't need people to tell you that going back in time to retrieve this machine would be easy, obviously if it were possible to time travel, which it isn't possible and never will be.

Having said that, I said I'd play along so, let's assume you have no money for that time to get a machine. There's nothing stopping you from getting getting future betting results from the archives of your time and going back and placing a bet on a sure fire outcome.
If you come back with this changing the future, then going back on business in any way would also create a butterfly effect, in that case.

As long as the effect is minor, it won't matter, so winning a small bet; enough to buy your machine, shouldn't create too much ripple or whatever you want to call it.

See?  Why not just go back to when they were being made, borrow one, then put it back before anyone noticed?

If the IBM 5100 was in a shop, that's not an option. I was hoping it would be elsewhere.
(For example, I'm currently tracking down a rumour that one was donated to a shrine).

Having said that, I said I'd play along so, let's assume you have no money for that time to get a machine. There's nothing stopping you from getting getting future betting results from the archives of your time and going back and placing a bet on a sure fire outcome.

I have betting results for this time, my goal was to get the results from this time. However, it's not that simple: I can only work with money I have, so I end up doubling my money each time. That is a fast method when it gets going, but it still takes quite a bit of time in order to get to anything approaching the amount I require. It is doable, but it isn't easy.

go back to the time when they were becoming obsolete and pick one up for next to nothing, or even nothing.

If there was ever such a time, I don't know about it. I'll have to research that, thank you.

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I have betting results for this time, my goal was to get the results from this time. However, it's not that simple: I can only work with money I have, so I end up doubling my money each time. That is a fast method when it gets going, but it still takes quite a bit of time in order to get to anything approaching the amount I require. It is doable, but it isn't easy.

It would take you no time at all (pardon the pun) to make enough money from bets if you have the results with you. Why only doubling your money? and if so, if you placed 1 dollar on a 20/1 horse, then 20 dollars on a 20/1 horse, then 400 on a 20/1 horse, then 8,000 dollars on a 20/1 horse, it's took you 4 bets to amass a fortune of $160,000 and some change.
You could buy your machine and have a slap up meal; new suit; some female company on your tail end and still have enough change to get mugged and beaten up by some person who saw you placing the bets. It don't matter because you'll still have the machine in your bedsit under the name of John Smith.


Hmmm; I've just been thinking, John. Forgive me if you've mentioned it but, you know that time machine you went back in time with? did you put it somewhere safe and if so, how did you manage to keep it shielded from prying eyes as you appeared in your past. Also, how did you appear?

I might as well start from the start and see what's going on here. After all, I haven't spoken to a time traveler before.

go back to the time when they were becoming obsolete and pick one up for next to nothing, or even nothing.

If there was ever such a time, I don't know about it. I'll have to research that, thank you.

Well there must have been a time or they wouldn't exist. It's like a playstation 1. You can get them for pennies or nothing in some cases, because there's many way advanced consoles about. No different with your IBM carry on.

It would take you no time at all (pardon the pun) to make enough money from bets if you have the results with you. Why only doubling your money? and if so, if you placed 1 dollar on a 20/1 horse, then 20 dollars on a 20/1 horse, then 400 on a 20/1 horse, then 8,000 dollars on a 20/1 horse, it's took you 4 bets to amass a fortune of $160,000 and some change.

It would depend on the bet placed. I use doubling to mean 'increase by multiples' rather than 'increase by powers', this may be a matter of language divergence. However, the chance of finding a high-odds bet that actually come true are far from likely.

Hmmm; I've just been thinking, John. Forgive me if you've mentioned it but, you know that time machine you went back in time with? did you put it somewhere safe and if so, how did you manage to keep it shielded from prying eyes as you appeared in your past. Also, how did you appear?

My time machine is rather small. I can carry it from place to place, in a suitcase I purchased when I came here. It's with me now.
I don't know how it looks when arriving from an external perspective. It may simply by instantaneous. I came here in jumps, from abandoned building to abandoned building, moving back in time in increments. I'm anchored to a piece of matter when I move back: I move along its past. I try not to jump back in new buildings, so I find the older ones, I go back in stages.
I have a 'quick release' in case I'm seen, or the location is unwelcoming for some other reason, which forces me back to the last location I was at. It's terrifying due to how rushed it is, but it works.

Well there must have been a time or they wouldn't exist. It's like a playstation 1. You can get them for pennies or nothing in some cases, because there's many way advanced consoles about. No different with your IBM carry on.

The IBM has always been rare, and antiques amass value. By that logic it should be even cheaper today: however, it isn't. There is no use for it, except for collectors, which drives the price up.

If you want the honest truth, I am somewhat afraid. I know of attitudes in the past, and prejudices. While this time is far from free of them, it is at least better. I would much prefer to exhaust my options here, before I risked the 70s.

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I have a 5100 simulator.

Send me your tapes and I will run your "hello world" class project.