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Quote from: sokarul on May 20, 2015, 10:29:46 AM

Quote from: Tom on May 20, 2015, 10:09:53 AM

How can you explain that one power does so many different things?

-1- moving the earth and the sun (and galaxies) through the universe (mindboggling speeds)
-2- spinning the earth
-3- not spinning the moon
-4- to let fall objects to the centre of the earth and to keep life forms on their feet wherever they are on the globe.
-5- to keep life forms on their feet in different locations with different earth spinning speeds

-6- different speeds/power (1-5) and only one power

1. Not the product of gravity.
2. The way the earth formed gave it it's spin. It's slowing down over time. But yes when gas/dust clouds started to attract each other they started to rotate.
3. The moon does rotate.
4. The strength of gravitation allows this. It's a weak force and can be overcome easily.
5. Don't understand this. Maybe the more mass the stronger it is, answers your question.

1 so, what is it?
2 prove please that this happened
3 true, but a lot less. Why is that? Which force is keeping the other gravity weak?
4 what forces are there exactly in operation in the universe and how do they interact?
5 that's not a reliable answer

as you can see here there are many problems with gravity:

https://plus.maths.org/content/problems-gravity

1. The expansion of space and/or velocity left over from the big bang. Edit:Gravitation does play a role. The solar system is orbiting a point in the Milky Way.


2. As you are not knowledgeable about science this should do. http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/11/28/3642932.htm
3. It's tidally locked. It formed at a different time and a different way.
4. Here, I'm not a teacher. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction Please note gravity isn't actually a force.
5. I think I see what you are asking. The earth spins once a day. Spin a basketball on your finger one revolution per day.  It's slow.  The earth's spin is too slow to make a noticeable difference. Instruments can measure it though.

Quote from: Tom on May 20, 2015, 03:22:09 PM

Quote from: sokarul on May 20, 2015, 10:29:46 AM

Quote from: Tom on May 20, 2015, 10:09:53 AM

How can you explain that one power does so many different things?

-1- moving the earth and the sun (and galaxies) through the universe (mindboggling speeds)
-2- spinning the earth
-3- not spinning the moon
-4- to let fall objects to the centre of the earth and to keep life forms on their feet wherever they are on the globe.
-5- to keep life forms on their feet in different locations with different earth spinning speeds

-6- different speeds/power (1-5) and only one power

1. Not the product of gravity.
2. The way the earth formed gave it it's spin. It's slowing down over time. But yes when gas/dust clouds started to attract each other they started to rotate.
3. The moon does rotate.
4. The strength of gravitation allows this. It's a weak force and can be overcome easily.
5. Don't understand this. Maybe the more mass the stronger it is, answers your question.

1 so, what is it?
2 prove please that this happened
3 true, but a lot less. Why is that? Which force is keeping the other gravity weak?
4 what forces are there exactly in operation in the universe and how do they interact?
5 that's not a reliable answer

as you can see here there are many problems with gravity:

https://plus.maths.org/content/problems-gravity

1. The expansion of space and/or velocity left over from the big bang.
2. As you are not knowledgeable about science this should do. http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/11/28/3642932.htm
3. It's tidally locked. It formed at a different time and a different way.
4. Here, I'm not a teacher. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction Please note gravity isn't actually a force.
5. I think I see what you are asking. The earth spins once a day. Spin a basketball on your finger one revolution per day.  It's slow.  The earth's spin is too slow to make a noticeable difference. Instruments can measure it though.

You are only parroting what others are saying.

Did you read the article about the problems with the theory of gravity?
Can you solve these problems (and win a nobel prize)?

Quote from: sokarul on May 20, 2015, 03:38:59 PM

Quote from: Tom on May 20, 2015, 03:22:09 PM

Quote from: sokarul on May 20, 2015, 10:29:46 AM

Quote from: Tom on May 20, 2015, 10:09:53 AM

How can you explain that one power does so many different things?

-1- moving the earth and the sun (and galaxies) through the universe (mindboggling speeds)
-2- spinning the earth
-3- not spinning the moon
-4- to let fall objects to the centre of the earth and to keep life forms on their feet wherever they are on the globe.
-5- to keep life forms on their feet in different locations with different earth spinning speeds

-6- different speeds/power (1-5) and only one power

1. Not the product of gravity.
2. The way the earth formed gave it it's spin. It's slowing down over time. But yes when gas/dust clouds started to attract each other they started to rotate.
3. The moon does rotate.
4. The strength of gravitation allows this. It's a weak force and can be overcome easily.
5. Don't understand this. Maybe the more mass the stronger it is, answers your question.

1 so, what is it?
2 prove please that this happened
3 true, but a lot less. Why is that? Which force is keeping the other gravity weak?
4 what forces are there exactly in operation in the universe and how do they interact?
5 that's not a reliable answer

as you can see here there are many problems with gravity:

https://plus.maths.org/content/problems-gravity

1. The expansion of space and/or velocity left over from the big bang.
2. As you are not knowledgeable about science this should do. http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/11/28/3642932.htm
3. It's tidally locked. It formed at a different time and a different way.
4. Here, I'm not a teacher. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction Please note gravity isn't actually a force.
5. I think I see what you are asking. The earth spins once a day. Spin a basketball on your finger one revolution per day.  It's slow.  The earth's spin is too slow to make a noticeable difference. Instruments can measure it though.

You are only parroting what others are saying.

Because that is the accepted answers as of 2015.

Did you read the article about the problems with the theory of gravity?
Can you solve these problems (and win a nobel prize)?

Which problem's solution would win the Nobel Prize? There are problems with General Relativity. No one says otherwise. It's a theory after all. Why do you think you don't fell a force when falling?

Quote from: Tom on May 20, 2015, 03:44:59 PM

Quote from: sokarul on May 20, 2015, 03:38:59 PM

Quote from: Tom on May 20, 2015, 03:22:09 PM

Quote from: sokarul on May 20, 2015, 10:29:46 AM

Quote from: Tom on May 20, 2015, 10:09:53 AM

How can you explain that one power does so many different things?

-1- moving the earth and the sun (and galaxies) through the universe (mindboggling speeds)
-2- spinning the earth
-3- not spinning the moon
-4- to let fall objects to the centre of the earth and to keep life forms on their feet wherever they are on the globe.
-5- to keep life forms on their feet in different locations with different earth spinning speeds

-6- different speeds/power (1-5) and only one power

1. Not the product of gravity.
2. The way the earth formed gave it it's spin. It's slowing down over time. But yes when gas/dust clouds started to attract each other they started to rotate.
3. The moon does rotate.
4. The strength of gravitation allows this. It's a weak force and can be overcome easily.
5. Don't understand this. Maybe the more mass the stronger it is, answers your question.

1 so, what is it?
2 prove please that this happened
3 true, but a lot less. Why is that? Which force is keeping the other gravity weak?
4 what forces are there exactly in operation in the universe and how do they interact?
5 that's not a reliable answer

as you can see here there are many problems with gravity:

https://plus.maths.org/content/problems-gravity

1. The expansion of space and/or velocity left over from the big bang.
2. As you are not knowledgeable about science this should do. http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/11/28/3642932.htm
3. It's tidally locked. It formed at a different time and a different way.
4. Here, I'm not a teacher. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction Please note gravity isn't actually a force.
5. I think I see what you are asking. The earth spins once a day. Spin a basketball on your finger one revolution per day.  It's slow.  The earth's spin is too slow to make a noticeable difference. Instruments can measure it though.

You are only parroting what others are saying.

Because that is the accepted answers as of 2015.

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Did you read the article about the problems with the theory of gravity?
Can you solve these problems (and win a nobel prize)?

Which problem's solution would win the Nobel Prize? There are problems with General Relativity. No one says otherwise. It's a theory after all. Why do you think you don't fell a force when falling?

Too many contradictions. Good luck with solving them (but you can't).

Science just like religion is a business. It's a game. A Joke.

Instead of being so vague, why don't you make proper arguments. Maybe state what the contradictions are. Plus you didn't answer my question.

Instead of being so vague, why don't you make proper arguments. Maybe state what the contradictions are. Plus you didn't answer my question.

General relativity and quantum field theory are incompatible

Quote from: sokarul on May 20, 2015, 04:04:31 PM

Instead of being so vague, why don't you make proper arguments. Maybe state what the contradictions are. Plus you didn't answer my question.

General relativity and quantum field theory are incompatible

Why is that a problem? You are just parroting what the link says, you don't understand any of it.

Are you going to answer my question? Why do you not feel a force when free falling?

Tom is a troll.    In the troll kingdom, he would be a mid level troll.  But lacking in imagination and flair.

Who promoted him from assistant to the troll in training  to full troll.  This must be rectified.

But lacking in imagination and flair.

His style is very Jroa-esque; there's nothing new or even entertaining about it. Vague, passive aggressive one-liners aren't even mildly interesting.

I'm serious, I want my assistant back, you guys promoted him without discussing it with me first.

Quote from: Aliveandkicking on May 20, 2015, 02:12:15 AM

Quote from: modestman on May 20, 2015, 01:59:51 AM

Quote from: Aliveandkicking on May 20, 2015, 01:55:56 AM

Quote from: tappet on May 20, 2015, 01:50:10 AM

This video makes me cringe.
Especially the part where the woman with to much hairspray makes out she shits in that little hole.
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Good find.  On a flat earth Chicago would always be seen from michigan in clear weather.

Flat earthers demonstrate time and time again they are challenged in the thinking area.

I hate science because of that i am flat earther don't you know ?

That sums it up quite well.

Science makes us insignificant specks in a vast inpersonal Universe.   It is not a pleasant way of seeing who we are and the life we are living and will die.

too complicated for me i love simple explanations.

Life is not simple, so why should the universe be?

Quote from: modestman on May 20, 2015, 02:21:51 AM

Quote from: Aliveandkicking on May 20, 2015, 02:12:15 AM

Quote from: modestman on May 20, 2015, 01:59:51 AM

Quote from: Aliveandkicking on May 20, 2015, 01:55:56 AM

Quote from: tappet on May 20, 2015, 01:50:10 AM

This video makes me cringe.
Especially the part where the woman with to much hairspray makes out she shits in that little hole.
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Good find.  On a flat earth Chicago would always be seen from michigan in clear weather.

Flat earthers demonstrate time and time again they are challenged in the thinking area.

I hate science because of that i am flat earther don't you know ?

That sums it up quite well.

Science makes us insignificant specks in a vast inpersonal Universe.   It is not a pleasant way of seeing who we are and the life we are living and will die.

too complicated for me i love simple explanations.

Life is not simple, so why should the universe be?

life is very simple just like the universe and YOU ARE IDIOT.

life is very simple just like the universe and YOU ARE IDIOT.

You clearly have no experience with life then.  If your life is so simple then summarize it in as few words as possible.  In fact, how about you pretend I have been living in a cave or something my whole life and you have to explain to me everything I need to know about living life in as few words as possible.  If life is as simple as you say then this should be easy.

Quote from: modestman on May 20, 2015, 11:51:20 PM

life is very simple just like the universe and YOU ARE IDIOT.

You clearly have no experience with life then.  If your life is so simple then summarize it in as few words as possible.  In fact, how about you pretend I have been living in a cave or something my whole life and you have to explain to me everything I need to know about living life in as few words as possible.  If life is as simple as you say then this should be easy.

life is diverse and rich but the explanation are very simple everything is simple and the universe is as simple.
I showed you how the brain is just an organ to stabilize the head nothing more and Occam's razor support me and I gave proofs that even procedures out of brain cause changes in mentality

Quote from: Tom on May 20, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Quote from: sokarul on May 20, 2015, 04:04:31 PM

Instead of being so vague, why don't you make proper arguments. Maybe state what the contradictions are. Plus you didn't answer my question.

General relativity and quantum field theory are incompatible

Why is that a problem? You are just parroting what the link says, you don't understand any of it.

Are you going to answer my question? Why do you not feel a force when free falling?

Give me a definition of the word 'gravity' which is verifiable and explains it once and for all.

Please keep the problems described in this article in mind http://www.science20.com/the_standup_physicist/blog/classical_gravity_part_1_the_problems-152844 )

Your theory is full of empty words. You don't even know what they mean.

Please do tell how many different forces there are in the universe and how they interact with each other.

What do you mean by the word 'falling'?

No matter what I say you will just dismiss it due to your pre conceived notions. Furthermore I'm still waiting for you to answer my question. Free fall is falling with no forces acting on you.

No matter what I say you will just dismiss it due to your pre conceived notions. Furthermore I'm still waiting for you to answer my question. Free fall is falling with no forces acting on you.

Please define falling. If we are floating in a universe and are pulled toward the centre of the earth, there is no such thing like falling.

Free fall has a set definition. Anyways here, "moving towards" instead of "falling". But falling is actually an exceptible word.

Free fall has a set definition. Anyways here, "moving towards" instead of "falling". But falling is actually an exceptible word.

What is the reference point? In other words, is Moses coming to the mountain or the mountain to Moses (or are they both moving towards each other)?

You are act dumb. The question is simple. I'll ask again.  When a person is in free fall moving towards the earth, why don't they feel a force?

You are act dumb. The question is simple. I'll ask again.  When a person is in free fall moving towards the earth, why don't they feel a force?

Simple question I ask: what is 'falling'? Then we might discover where the 'force' is coming from.

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 10:08:44 AM

You are act dumb. The question is simple. I'll ask again.  When a person is in free fall moving towards the earth, why don't they feel a force?

Simple question I ask: what is 'falling'? Then we might discover where the 'force' is coming from.

I don't think I have ever seen someone so scared to answer a question.

What do you think make people come back to earth when they jump? Simple enough?

Quote from: mikeman7918 on May 20, 2015, 11:54:01 PM

Quote from: modestman on May 20, 2015, 11:51:20 PM

life is very simple just like the universe and YOU ARE IDIOT.

You clearly have no experience with life then.  If your life is so simple then summarize it in as few words as possible.  In fact, how about you pretend I have been living in a cave or something my whole life and you have to explain to me everything I need to know about living life in as few words as possible.  If life is as simple as you say then this should be easy.

life is diverse and rich but the explanation are very simple everything is simple and the universe is as simple.
I showed you how the brain is just an organ to stabilize the head nothing more and Occam's razor support me and I gave proofs that even procedures out of brain cause changes in mentality

Occam's razor does not always work.  Computers work by billions of transistors firing in sequences to run complex programs and do billions of tiny calculations per second, but it would be a lot simpler to say that they are magic.  Have you ever taken a math class?  Math is the fundemental language of logic and yet it takes many years to master.  If you have ever done physics calculations to try and predict the behavior of something you would know that it's not easy.  If you have ever used a computer then you would know that when they have a probelem (which happens a lot) they are very hard to fix because they are incredibly complicated.  Maybe you should get out of your basement and get a life, then you would know what I mean when I say that life is not simple.

Quote from: Tom on May 21, 2015, 11:06:18 AM

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 10:08:44 AM

You are act dumb. The question is simple. I'll ask again.  When a person is in free fall moving towards the earth, why don't they feel a force?

Simple question I ask: what is 'falling'? Then we might discover where the 'force' is coming from.

I don't think I have ever seen someone so scared to answer a question.

What do you think make people come back to earth when they jump? Simple enough?

Who says people come back to earth? There seems to be an attraction between the surface and the body. Two energy 'bodies' that 'touch' again.

Yep, that explains it all, two bodies that want to touch each other.  Good job assistant troll.

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 11:13:09 AM

Quote from: Tom on May 21, 2015, 11:06:18 AM

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 10:08:44 AM

You are act dumb. The question is simple. I'll ask again.  When a person is in free fall moving towards the earth, why don't they feel a force?

Simple question I ask: what is 'falling'? Then we might discover where the 'force' is coming from.

I don't think I have ever seen someone so scared to answer a question.

What do you think make people come back to earth when they jump? Simple enough?

Who says people come back to earth? There seems to be an attraction between the surface and the body. Two energy 'bodies' that 'touch' again.

So when kids jump on trampolines they float away forever?

Quote from: Tom on May 21, 2015, 01:02:51 PM

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 11:13:09 AM

Quote from: Tom on May 21, 2015, 11:06:18 AM

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 10:08:44 AM

You are act dumb. The question is simple. I'll ask again.  When a person is in free fall moving towards the earth, why don't they feel a force?

Simple question I ask: what is 'falling'? Then we might discover where the 'force' is coming from.

I don't think I have ever seen someone so scared to answer a question.

What do you think make people come back to earth when they jump? Simple enough?

Who says people come back to earth? There seems to be an attraction between the surface and the body. Two energy 'bodies' that 'touch' again.

So when kids jump on trampolines they float away forever?

The surface of the trampoline or the ground and the body of the kids first separate and then touch each other again. So, it seems the two energy bodies meet again.

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 02:04:31 PM

Quote from: Tom on May 21, 2015, 01:02:51 PM

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 11:13:09 AM

Quote from: Tom on May 21, 2015, 11:06:18 AM

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 10:08:44 AM

You are act dumb. The question is simple. I'll ask again.  When a person is in free fall moving towards the earth, why don't they feel a force?

Simple question I ask: what is 'falling'? Then we might discover where the 'force' is coming from.

I don't think I have ever seen someone so scared to answer a question.

What do you think make people come back to earth when they jump? Simple enough?

Who says people come back to earth? There seems to be an attraction between the surface and the body. Two energy 'bodies' that 'touch' again.

So when kids jump on trampolines they float away forever?

The surface of the trampoline or the ground and the body of the kids first separate and then touch each other again. So, it seems the two energy bodies meet again.

And this happens why?

Quote from: Tom on May 21, 2015, 02:36:00 PM

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 02:04:31 PM

Quote from: Tom on May 21, 2015, 01:02:51 PM

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 11:13:09 AM

Quote from: Tom on May 21, 2015, 11:06:18 AM

Quote from: sokarul on May 21, 2015, 10:08:44 AM

You are act dumb. The question is simple. I'll ask again.  When a person is in free fall moving towards the earth, why don't they feel a force?

Simple question I ask: what is 'falling'? Then we might discover where the 'force' is coming from.

I don't think I have ever seen someone so scared to answer a question.

What do you think make people come back to earth when they jump? Simple enough?

Who says people come back to earth? There seems to be an attraction between the surface and the body. Two energy 'bodies' that 'touch' again.

So when kids jump on trampolines they float away forever?

The surface of the trampoline or the ground and the body of the kids first separate and then touch each other again. So, it seems the two energy bodies meet again.

And this happens why?

You claim to know what causes all kind of different things in our reality based on several assumptions. First prove the assumptions, then tell me what's happening and why.