So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed

Quote from: blnjms on October 20, 2014, 08:52:18 AM

Peer pressure isn't why I changed religions, though my wife did influence me to return to Catholicism.

And that's just one person influencing you. No wonder you go with the flow.

Quote from: blnjms on October 20, 2014, 08:52:18 AM

Still, I didn't just go back to church but stayed away until I felt ready to sit in the pews again.

Yeah, you postponed the inevitable.

Quote from: blnjms on October 20, 2014, 08:52:18 AM

I've already questioned RE and concluded that it's sound.

No you haven't. If you had, I guarantee you would not be so sure about it.

Quote from: blnjms on October 20, 2014, 08:52:18 AM

Like I said in a previous post, if I had a reason to question RE/space travel/universe I would, but I don't have a reason.

You don't have a reason because you don't want a reason. Everything is tickety boo for you just following the trend. That's fair enough. At least you are honest enough about it.

Quote from: blnjms on October 20, 2014, 08:52:18 AM

Just because you question it doesn't make it false. You could be wrong (shock).

I could be wrong about my thoughts concerning Earth's actual make up and shape. The only shape I'm certain it isn't, is a solid rotating globe that we live on top of - and around - plus under.

Quote from: blnjms on October 20, 2014, 08:52:18 AM

I can't even entertain the idea of FE as a leisure exercise because that would be a waste of my time.

So, why are you here? seriously, what's your reasoning for being here?
Don't use the old, " I'm here to see the silly answers of flat Earther's" routine. You also can't use the inquisitive stance, either as you've already said your mind is fully made up.

I think you're mixed up and you are really here to fathom out what's what. You are just too weak to admit it fior fear of ridicule among global Earther's on here.

There's NO WAY that you're certain the earth isn't a rotating globe given the info I have on you so far. You insist I can't be sure of RE; well, you can't be sure of FE or whatever anti-RE you're spouting.

Sceptimatic: you like to argue that we shouldn't believe things that others tell us are true just because they say it's true, right?  Well, you have stated that you have authored several books, yet you are evasive when asked their titles.  Your claim about being an author is a lie, isn't it?  If not, simply tell us the titles -- even just one to get started.

Sceptimatic: you like to argue that we shouldn't believe things that others tell us are true just because they say it's true, right?  Well, you have stated that you have authored several books, yet you are evasive when asked their titles. Your claim about being an author is a lie, isn't it?  If not, simply tell us the titles -- even just one to get started.

Your mind is already made up, no need for any further digging.

Quote from: FlatAllTheWay on October 20, 2014, 06:19:08 PM

Sceptimatic: you like to argue that we shouldn't believe things that others tell us are true just because they say it's true, right?  Well, you have stated that you have authored several books, yet you are evasive when asked their titles. Your claim about being an author is a lie, isn't it?  If not, simply tell us the titles -- even just one to get started.

Your mind is already made up, no need for any further digging.

At this point, how could we not conclude that you are lying?  All you have to do to prove us wrong is to tell us the title of one of your books.  If you refuse to do so, you leave us no choice but to call you a liar.

My memory's fine, your memory seems not so. I remember telling you that you are not important enough for me to divulge any info to you, as to what you ask for. I decide when and if I give out info, not you. Can you grasp this?

I'm sure that I'm not the only round earther that'd be interested in seeing some of the books you've written.  Most serious authors are more than happy to increase their readership and spread their knowledge to as many people as possible.  Why not you?  Who exactly do you expect to actually read your books if you won't tell anybody their titles?

And surely this flat earth site would be one of the more obvious places to spread information about your books, as you'd have a very positive, receptive audience here.

I'm assuming that you've distributed copies gratis to numerous public libraries across the UK as most science authors do?  And in all likelihood several universities?

If any other round earthers here would like some specific information about sceptimatic's books, please feel free to quote this post.

(He seems to have some strong personal objections to my request, but I'm sure he won't refuse a few other's requests.)

Quote from: markjo on October 20, 2014, 07:35:44 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on October 20, 2014, 07:03:59 AM

It must be true because the cameraman was videoing it from his own helium balloon already waiting up there.
It's absolutely amazing what scientists can achieve. 

Unless the cameraman's name was Thor, you must have missed the part where the announcer said that the camera was in the rocket.

No, I didn't miss it. It's extremely weird though how a camera in a rocket can simply observe this happening after release and inflation isn't it.

It's not at all weird if that's exactly the reason that the camera was put there.

Quote from: sceptimatic on October 21, 2014, 12:31:30 AM

Quote from: FlatAllTheWay on October 20, 2014, 06:19:08 PM

Sceptimatic: you like to argue that we shouldn't believe things that others tell us are true just because they say it's true, right?  Well, you have stated that you have authored several books, yet you are evasive when asked their titles. Your claim about being an author is a lie, isn't it?  If not, simply tell us the titles -- even just one to get started.

Your mind is already made up, no need for any further digging.

At this point, how could we not conclude that you are lying?  All you have to do to prove us wrong is to tell us the title of one of your books.  If you refuse to do so, you leave us no choice but to call you a liar.

I'm guessing at this point in time, poor old sceptimatic is wishing he'd never made up the obvious lie of having written several books LOL.

Although it does indirectly confirm his earlier lie about his thirteen academic qualifications—none of which he'll name either of course.

Still, it passes the time having fun shooting him down in flames with unerring regularity.   

We haven't heard from ol' sceptimatic in a while. Maybe he's diligently working on his proof that a shuttle has to accelerate at 5 mi/sec² to reach 17,000 mi/hr in 8 minutes that he promised to show us about a month ago.

He said he already had it worked out, and it was hysterical, but I suspect he really didn't. I do believe it will be at least moderately funny, though.

I recon septic is in rehab after that last powder fueled blast we got.

I recon septic is in rehab after that last powder fueled blast we got.

He is currently in a mental asylum and no internet is available there for the patients.

Hope he gets better. I miss him

He is currently in a mental asylum and no internet is available there for the patients.

That's even more funny considering that in his very first comment here, sceptimatic said:  "It would go as far as a bit of tongue wagging [about Aldrin] before they were deemed insane and suffering from space dementia or whatever is bestowed upon them".

Maybe sceptimatic's suffering from denpressure dementia?   

It seems Buzz' astrophysical ideas were used to get the European spacecraft Rosetta theoretically away from Earth 21 years ago to visit a comet. I describe thsee astrohysterical ideas of Buzz at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#ROS . They are evidently believed by plenty brainwashed people. So Buzz is not alone being brainwashed.

It seems Buzz' astrophysical ideas were used to get the European spacecraft Rosetta theoretically away from Earth 21 years ago to visit a comet. I describe thsee astrohysterical ideas of Buzz at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#ROS . They are evidently believed by plenty brainwashed people. So Buzz is not alone being brainwashed.

Welcome back!  Did you bring Bloomington with you or was that just a happy accident?

There is are a couple of threads already underway about Rosetta so perhaps you should post your shameless plugs for your website there.

It seems Buzz' astrophysical ideas were used to get the European spacecraft Rosetta theoretically away from Earth 21 years ago to visit a comet. I describe three astrophysical ideas of Buzz at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#ROS . They are evidently believed by plenty brainwashed people. So Buzz is not alone being brainwashed.

Maybe if you posted less links to your whack-job web sites (under the guise of on-topic posts) you'd have less somewhat less than 99% of the world's scientific community and all members of this forum pissing themselves laughing every time you post some ludicrous comment?

We can only be thankful that the majority of the population listen to what Aldrin and his scientific peers have to say about the cosmos, rather than taking any notice of losers such as you suffering from obvious delusions of grandeur.

And as you've never travelled into space, and are never likely to, you're totally unqualified to comment on the experiences and knowledge gained by those who have.  I'm guessing you're seriously envious of Aldrin's and the other astronauts' extraterrestrial encounters?  You sound like a petulant little child who's denied a visit to the playground LOL.

Maybe if you posted less links to your whack-job web sites (under the guise of on-topic posts)

Genetic Fallacy

you'd have less somewhat less than 99% of the world's scientific community

Appeal to Authority

and all members of this forum pissing themselves laughing every time you post some ludicrous comment?

We can only be thankful that the majority of the population listen to what Aldrin and his scientific peers have to say about the cosmos,

Argumentum ad populum

 

rather than taking any notice of losers such as you suffering from obvious delusions of grandeur.

And as you've never travelled into space, and are never likely to, you're totally unqualified to comment on the experiences and knowledge gained by those who have.  I'm guessing you're seriously envious of Aldrin's and the other astronauts' extraterrestrial encounters?  You sound like a petulant little child who's denied a visit to the playground LOL.

Ad hominem

Can you try and construct a productive argument please?

Quote from: ausGeoff on November 21, 2014, 07:57:51 AM

Maybe if you posted less links to your whack-job web sites (under the guise of on-topic posts)

Genetic Fallacy

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you'd have less somewhat less than 99% of the world's scientific community

Appeal to Authority

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and all members of this forum pissing themselves laughing every time you post some ludicrous comment?

We can only be thankful that the majority of the population listen to what Aldrin and his scientific peers have to say about the cosmos,

Argumentum ad populum

 

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rather than taking any notice of losers such as you suffering from obvious delusions of grandeur.

And as you've never travelled into space, and are never likely to, you're totally unqualified to comment on the experiences and knowledge gained by those who have.  I'm guessing you're seriously envious of Aldrin's and the other astronauts' extraterrestrial encounters?  You sound like a petulant little child who's denied a visit to the playground LOL.

Ad hominem

Can you try and construct a productive argument please?

Um... are you ABSOLUTELY sure you're not a flat earther?   

Um... are you ABSOLUTELY sure you're not a flat earther?   

Honestly.  Stop.

Quote from: ausGeoff on November 21, 2014, 12:09:18 PM

Um... are you ABSOLUTELY sure you're not a flat earther?   

Honestly.  Stop.

I hate it when mommy and daddy fight.

Quote from: Rama Set on November 21, 2014, 12:17:53 PM

Quote from: ausGeoff on November 21, 2014, 12:09:18 PM

Um... are you ABSOLUTELY sure you're not a flat earther?   

Honestly.  Stop.

I hate it when mommy and daddy fight.

Sometimes your mom and I disagree.  It's natural.  How's your science project?

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on November 21, 2014, 12:44:05 PM

Quote from: Rama Set on November 21, 2014, 12:17:53 PM

Quote from: ausGeoff on November 21, 2014, 12:09:18 PM

Um... are you ABSOLUTELY sure you're not a flat earther?   

Honestly.  Stop.

I hate it when mommy and daddy fight.

Sometimes your mom and I disagree.  It's natural.  How's your science project?

I finally proved that since when I play tug of war with my friends that because the rope is parallel to the ground the earth is flat!

Weeeee!!

Um... are you ABSOLUTELY sure you're not a flat earther?   

I notice you didn't address any of the points he made about the logical fallacies that litter your posts?


Presumably I will now be called a flat earther and a stalker.


You are worse than scepti - at least he is occasionally amusing.

Quote from: ausGeoff on November 21, 2014, 12:09:18 PM

Um... are you ABSOLUTELY sure you're not a flat earther?   

I notice you didn't address any of the points he made about the logical fallacies that litter your posts?


Presumably I will now be called a flat earther and a stalker.


You are worse than scepti - at least he is occasionally amusing.

Firstly, I note that you're apparently unable to list all/any of those "logical fallacies" I allegedly proposed.

Second, I only jokingly refer to Rama Set as a "stalker" because he follows me around these forums insulting me with snide little personal attacks.  He never actually directly addresses the thrust of any of my comments.  In fact, inexplicably, he spends more of his time responding to my posts with empty rhetoric rather than posting any meaningful content of his own.  To me, that's "stalking".

Lastly, if you seriously give more credence to the content of sceptimatic's tsunami of whack-job posts, and claim that my comments are "worse" than his, then I really think you need to examine both our inputs much more closely.  Would you care to point out any of my comments that even come close to "denpressure" for example, or gravity "not existing", rockets "not working" in space, or the moon and the sun being a "reflection" on a "sky dome", and "no such thing" as a vacuum?

Your powers of logical discernment seem to be on the wane my friend.

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on November 22, 2014, 02:54:52 AM

Quote from: ausGeoff on November 21, 2014, 12:09:18 PM

Um... are you ABSOLUTELY sure you're not a flat earther?   

I notice you didn't address any of the points he made about the logical fallacies that litter your posts?


Presumably I will now be called a flat earther and a stalker.


You are worse than scepti - at least he is occasionally amusing.

Firstly, I note that you're apparently unable to list all/any of those "logical fallacies" I allegedly proposed.

Second, I only jokingly refer to Rama Set as a "stalker" because he follows me around these forums insulting me with snide little personal attacks.  He never actually directly addresses the thrust of any of my comments.  In fact, inexplicably, he spends more of his time responding to my posts with empty rhetoric rather than posting any meaningful content of his own.  To me, that's "stalking".

Lastly, if you seriously give more credence to the content of sceptimatic's tsunami of whack-job posts, and claim that my comments are "worse" than his, then I really think you need to examine both our inputs much more closely.  Would you care to point out any of my comments that even come close to "denpressure" for example, or gravity "not existing", rockets "not working" in space, or the moon and the sun being a "reflection" on a "sky dome", and "no such thing" as a vacuum?

Your powers of logical discernment seem to be on the wane my friend.

Jroa already listed them and you are guilty of all of them. The comparison to scepti is that both your posts and his are horribke but his at least are amusing.

Second, I only jokingly refer to Rama Set as a "stalker" because he follows me around these forums

No, he doesn't.  Don't flatter yourself.

insulting me with snide little personal attacks.  He never actually directly addresses the thrust of any of my comments.

He just did, and you ignored him.

Lastly, if you seriously give more credence to the content of sceptimatic's tsunami of whack-job posts, and claim that my comments are "worse" than his, then I really think you need to examine both our inputs much more closely.

I really, really don't.  I hardly read any of your posts, and skim scepti's long ones at best.  That aint changing.

  Would you care to point out any of my comments that even come close to "denpressure" for example, or gravity "not existing", rockets "not working" in space, or the moon and the sun being a "reflection" on a "sky dome", and "no such thing" as a vacuum?

They are all absolute bullshit - where did I say any different? However at least he is occasionally amusing.

Jroa already listed them and you are guilty of all of them.

Link please.

Quote from: rottingroom on November 22, 2014, 08:24:25 AM

Jroa already listed them and you are guilty of all of them.

Link please.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62338.msg1641056#msg1641056

Rama also listed them in this very thread with links to help you understand them and see how you are guilty of them

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=61836.msg1641267#msg1641267

RETards fighting.

RETards fighting.

LOL... so says a guy with the IQ of a goldfish, but with less knowledge of science.   

(Apparently it was widely known in the goldfish fraternity that earth was in fact spherical around 1899.)

RETards fighting.

Thanks Hoppy. Thanks a lot.