A glass dome in the sky? Really?

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2014, 01:11:54 PM »
The game is over. We have proven the earth is round. It's just a matter of seeing a shrink now. I can find some for you if you need me to.
You and most others here are the one's who will need a shrink when the truth is either revealed to the world or you realize it before then.  Either way, makes no difference to me.  I don't go around calling people names and ridiculing them like you do.

Will never happen, idiot.
Needless ad hominem.... did you do that on purpose?
Fixed it for you as well.

Of course. I was provoked. I happily tell these guys they are morons. I get banned and come back and do it again. Maybe I'll learn my lesson someday.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2014, 01:12:18 PM »
Haha. No.

I accounted for both. I'm sorry that you don't understand basic geometry.

The distance can be anything. You can make it a billion if you want. The sun will still never be below the horizon.
I see you STILL don't get it.  The point is not ONE distance.  There are TWO...the landscape (dry Earth or sea) and the object in the sky.  TWO DISTANCES.  UNDERSTAND?
2 distances from where to where?

Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2014, 01:13:22 PM »
Get with the program man.  Go read the other threads about the sun if you have to.   ::)

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2014, 01:13:46 PM »
The game is over. We have proven the earth is round. It's just a matter of seeing a shrink now. I can find some for you if you need me to.
You and most others here are the one's who will need a shrink when the truth is either revealed to the world or you realize it before then.  Either way, makes no difference to me.  I don't go around calling people names and ridiculing them like you do.

Will never happen, idiot.
Needless ad hominem.... did you do that on purpose?
Fixed it for you as well.

Of course. I was provoked. I happily tell these guys they are morons. I get banned and come back and do it again. Maybe I'll learn my lesson someday.
All it does is make you seem less credible and more angry.


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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2014, 01:16:22 PM »
The game is over. We have proven the earth is round. It's just a matter of seeing a shrink now. I can find some for you if you need me to.
You and most others here are the one's who will need a shrink when the truth is either revealed to the world or you realize it before then.  Either way, makes no difference to me.  I don't go around calling people names and ridiculing them like you do.

Will never happen, idiot.
Needless ad hominem.... did you do that on purpose?
Fixed it for you as well.

Of course. I was provoked. I happily tell these guys they are morons. I get banned and come back and do it again. Maybe I'll learn my lesson someday.
All it does is make you seem less credible and more angry.

Stop confusing me with someone that cares.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2014, 01:22:47 PM »
Also, where did you get the idea that people would prefer that we respect lunatics. I think people looking are fine with me ridiculing lunatics.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2014, 01:27:43 PM »
Also, where did you get the idea that people would prefer that we respect lunatics. I think people looking are fine with me ridiculing lunatics.
It doesn't offend me or anything, I'm just saying it makes your argument appear less sound when you feel the need to resort to personal attacks on character.
I just wouldn't want to give the lunatics the [seemingly] upper hand.  ;)


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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2014, 01:28:54 PM »
Also, where did you get the idea that people would prefer that we respect lunatics. I think people looking are fine with me ridiculing lunatics.
It doesn't offend me or anything, I'm just saying it makes your argument appear less sound when you feel the need to resort to personal attacks on character.
I just wouldn't want to give the lunatics the [seemingly] upper hand.  ;)

I'll consider that. I said that I'm right. I never said that I wasn't an asshole.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2014, 01:34:33 PM »
Also, where did you get the idea that people would prefer that we respect lunatics. I think people looking are fine with me ridiculing lunatics.
It doesn't offend me or anything, I'm just saying it makes your argument appear less sound when you feel the need to resort to personal attacks on character.
I just wouldn't want to give the lunatics the [seemingly] upper hand.  ;)

I'll consider that. I said that I'm right. I never said that I wasn't an asshole.
Fair enough. There is no dome around Earth.


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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2014, 02:16:20 PM »
First of all, not many sibscribe to it. I do and one or two others on here.
The dome is ICE, made up of frozen helium, hydrogen, nitrogen, etc depending on positition in the natural build of it.
It covers all the solid ground we exist on to a unknown height. Maybe 50 miles high as a wild guess.
There is definitely a dome, of this I am certain, because it makes perfect sense.

What does not make any sense is an atmosphere around a ball that somehow stays in place as a gas. It's preposterous and people really need to start thinking for themselves instead of mocking the dome, seriously.

Thanks for the answer. I've no idea how you've determined it to be so. But at least you gave an answer. Though when you say "There is definitely a dome, of this I am certain, because it makes perfect sense" you lose me. Science isn't progressed by "what makes sense". Intuition is not a reliable metric for determining reality. Intuition is subjective. We get to truth by following the evidence, wherever it may lead.

On the point of atmosphere around a round ball: The gasses that comprise the atmosphere have mass. The Earth has a gravitational field (as a result of its mass). It's gravitation that holds captive our atmosphere. It's a pretty well understood phenomenon. Gravity works in the 3 spacial dimensions we inhabit (and likely more).

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2014, 02:27:29 PM »
The game is over. We have proven the earth is round. It's just a matter of seeing a shrink now. I can find some for you if you need me to.
You and most others here are the one's who will need a shrink when the truth is either revealed to the world or you realize it before then.  Either way, makes no difference to me.  I don't go around calling people names and ridiculing them like you do.

Will never happen, idiot.
Needless ad hominem.... did you do that on purpose?
Fixed it for you as well.

Of course. I was provoked. I happily tell these guys they are morons. I get banned and come back and do it again. Maybe I'll learn my lesson someday.
All it does is make you seem less credible and more angry.

Science, physics, geometry and math all do not care how angry he is. The numbers do not lie or care who wrote them.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2014, 02:38:07 PM »
Haha. No.

I accounted for both. I'm sorry that you don't understand basic geometry.

The distance can be anything. You can make it a billion if you want. The sun will still never be below the horizon.
I see you STILL don't get it.  The point is not ONE distance.  There are TWO...the landscape (dry Earth or sea) and the object in the sky.  TWO DISTANCES.  UNDERSTAND?

I went back and read the thread, it's pretty clear that he accounted for the distance of the sun and the height. Pretty easy to understand, actually.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2014, 01:21:47 AM »
Calling EarthIsASpaceship a moron is not an offence, it is a compliment.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2014, 01:53:40 AM »
Blah blah blah scepti. Your hypothesis makes no sense.
Like I said. It makes no sense to those who ridicule it at first point. Only a deep thinking attitude will gain anyone an insight into it all. Something that most refuse to do. But like I said, it's up to the individual what they go with, as it is with me.

Keeping the science world space theories firmly implanted will gain you no alternative headway. Fir enough I say.

If only you actually did satisfactorily contend our arguments then a response like this would be warranted. If anyone does take the time to read the novel that's on these forums concerning your horrible hypothesis then it's plain as day. You haven't been able to keep your ideas together. You respond with ways to satisfy your theory which breaks other responses. It is unsound. It is incorrect. It is not reality.
Almost makes me wonder why you're wasting your time.

I can't help myself. Oh, and boredom. It's not as bad as wasting time pretending to be a flat earther.
Pretending?
I'm offended.
How long have you said you would play the flat Earther for?
Just go back to your indoctrinated way and stop with the pretence.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2014, 02:05:35 AM »

Thanks for the answer. I've no idea how you've determined it to be so. But at least you gave an answer. Though when you say "There is definitely a dome, of this I am certain, because it makes perfect sense" you lose me. Science isn't progressed by "what makes sense". Intuition is not a reliable metric for determining reality. Intuition is subjective. We get to truth by following the evidence, wherever it may lead.

On the point of atmosphere around a round ball: The gasses that comprise the atmosphere have mass. The Earth has a gravitational field (as a result of its mass). It's gravitation that holds captive our atmosphere. It's a pretty well understood phenomenon. Gravity works in the 3 spacial dimensions we inhabit (and likely more).
Well, you were curious so I thought I'd tell you. I understand how the mainstream science world cannot be dragged screaming from their beliefs because trust in official givings are paramount to a budding learning scientists future, so why would anyone go against that.

Those who want to find the truth before they expire, will do well to open their minds to many differing possibilities to the ones that are spoon fed into their mouths and drilled into their minds by those at the top who dictate the state of play in life.

The knowledge you believe you possess is only knowledge if it's a true reflection of life, otherwise is the knowledge of fictional stories, or better still, it's the brain memory bank that holds the info that can be reeled off, as and when needed, as a potential fictional story, not a fact.

I'm a different breed, obviously, because I literally believe nothing and question everything and with good reason in my mind.
We live in a world of lies; deceit and disguised oppression, married into some truths, to keep us all plodding along.

Space science in any form is ALL lies, every last bit of it.
The Earth being a spinning ball is complete lies and all the flannel names that go with the ruse of making it work.

Our history is mostly based on lies mixed in with some truths.
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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2014, 02:56:18 AM »
Back' in the old days it was the church and Jesus.... the inquisition ...

Could it be that,, 'Science; is now the new religion that must not be questioned,    this is business as usual.

The dome of the rock,,, ISRAEL

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2014, 03:11:44 AM »
Back' in the old days it was the church and Jesus.... the inquisition ...

Could it now be that,, 'Science; is the new religion that must not be questioned,    this is business as usual.

The dome of the rock,,, ISRAEL


For sure, science is the new religion. They can sell us anything they want and anyoner who dares question it will be ridiculed into submission.
They know there's a dome covering this Earth, I'm certain of that. Their telescopes can see what no ordinary amateur can see.

They are allowed to get more ridiculous with space now because the masses are pacified or comatose, so they can basically make anything up and laugh in their faces.
They know there's a select minority that know their game but it's an accepted amount that they know will be ridiculed by the paid shills and comatose sheep who follow that pattern.



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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #47 on: June 11, 2014, 04:16:00 AM »
Do either of you stop to check if you've actually typed out an argument before you hit the enter key?

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2014, 04:50:30 AM »
Do either of you stop to check if you've actually typed out an argument before you hit the enter key?
Stop panicking and fretting.
Nobody's asking you to respond, just sit back and chill out and enjoy basking in your global Earth bull shit.

Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2014, 05:17:40 AM »
I went back and read the thread, it's pretty clear that he accounted for the distance of the sun and the height. Pretty easy to understand, actually.
There's actually 3 but I'm talking about the one nobody understands and that is the distance of the sun on the horizon.  Do you not agree that the sun is closer at noon than when it's on the horizon?  You have the 3000 miles (or 62mi/100km that some of us believe) AND the distance of the sun on the horizon.  The angle changes.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #50 on: June 11, 2014, 06:04:01 AM »
I went back and read the thread, it's pretty clear that he accounted for the distance of the sun and the height. Pretty easy to understand, actually.
There's actually 3 but I'm talking about the one nobody understands and that is the distance of the sun on the horizon.  Do you not agree that the sun is closer at noon than when it's on the horizon?  You have the 3000 miles (or 62mi/100km that some of us believe) AND the distance of the sun on the horizon.  The angle changes.

Of course it is closer at noon. Problem is that with the RE model, it is about .00426 % at noon than at sunset or sunrise. Which easily and readily explains why its apparent size is not noticeable. On the FE model, the sun is about 11% closer at noon than at sunrise or sunset which should be obvious if it was true.

It's really fascinating that even with these obvious proofs that inexplicably destroys the idea that a sunset is possible on a FE that you still hold onto it so dearly.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #51 on: June 11, 2014, 06:05:31 AM »
Do either of you stop to check if you've actually typed out an argument before you hit the enter key?
Stop panicking and fretting.
Nobody's asking you to respond, just sit back and chill out and enjoy basking in your global Earth bull shit.

Absolutely incapable of posting an actual argument. I wonder if you even understand what I'm getting at.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #52 on: June 11, 2014, 06:10:25 AM »
Do either of you stop to check if you've actually typed out an argument before you hit the enter key?
Stop panicking and fretting.
Nobody's asking you to respond, just sit back and chill out and enjoy basking in your global Earth bull shit.
Yet you cannot produce a coherent description of your version of angles of moon and sun, satellite tv, gps and measured distances without resorting to abuse and rudeness.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2014, 06:19:16 AM »
Do either of you stop to check if you've actually typed out an argument before you hit the enter key?
Stop panicking and fretting.
Nobody's asking you to respond, just sit back and chill out and enjoy basking in your global Earth bull shit.

Absolutely incapable of posting an actual argument. I wonder if you even understand what I'm getting at.
Of course I don't understand what you're getting at. It's all made up gibberish. It's not meant to be understood, it's just meant to be memorised and regurgitated which many of you lot do quite well at.
One day you might engage your brain. I doubt it but it is possible.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2014, 06:22:00 AM »
Do either of you stop to check if you've actually typed out an argument before you hit the enter key?
Stop panicking and fretting.
Nobody's asking you to respond, just sit back and chill out and enjoy basking in your global Earth bull shit.
Yet you cannot produce a coherent description of your version of angles of moon and sun, satellite tv, gps and measured distances without resorting to abuse and rudeness.
Look. Don't harp onto me about abuse and rudeness. I'm pretty cool with you people. I should actually be abusing you all full on but I sit back and allow you all to abuse me, then watch you all moan then turn it around to make out I'm the abuser.
Man up you little fairy.  ;D

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2014, 06:30:47 AM »
Do either of you stop to check if you've actually typed out an argument before you hit the enter key?
Stop panicking and fretting.
Nobody's asking you to respond, just sit back and chill out and enjoy basking in your global Earth bull shit.

Absolutely incapable of posting an actual argument. I wonder if you even understand what I'm getting at.
Of course I don't understand what you're getting at. It's all made up gibberish. It's not meant to be understood, it's just meant to be memorised and regurgitated which many of you lot do quite well at.
One day you might engage your brain. I doubt it but it is possible.

I'm actually not referring to arguments about the earth being round or flat here. When I said, "I wonder if you even understand what I'm getting at", I was talking about whether or not you understand what an argument is. I hope you understand now. Please post something relevant. The best way for you to prove we are wrong is to prove it. In order to prove it you need to demonstrate it.

You never do that though, you just constantly go on about indoctrination and tell stories about what you think reality is without ever attempting to demonstrate it.

For the record, my demonstration about how a sun cannot set on a flat earth was not memorized or regurgitated. It was demonstrated and it came from me, not a textbook. That is how you demonstrate something.
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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #56 on: June 11, 2014, 06:32:09 AM »
Do either of you stop to check if you've actually typed out an argument before you hit the enter key?
Stop panicking and fretting.
Nobody's asking you to respond, just sit back and chill out and enjoy basking in your global Earth bull shit.

Absolutely incapable of posting an actual argument. I wonder if you even understand what I'm getting at.
Of course I don't understand what you're getting at. It's all made up gibberish. It's not meant to be understood, it's just meant to be memorised and regurgitated which many of you lot do quite well at.
One day you might engage your brain. I doubt it but it is possible.
How does your computer and the internet work, all gibberish?

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #57 on: June 11, 2014, 06:49:54 AM »
Do either of you stop to check if you've actually typed out an argument before you hit the enter key?
Stop panicking and fretting.
Nobody's asking you to respond, just sit back and chill out and enjoy basking in your global Earth bull shit.

Absolutely incapable of posting an actual argument. I wonder if you even understand what I'm getting at.
Of course I don't understand what you're getting at. It's all made up gibberish. It's not meant to be understood, it's just meant to be memorised and regurgitated which many of you lot do quite well at.
One day you might engage your brain. I doubt it but it is possible.

I'm actually not referring to arguments about the earth being round or flat here. When I said, "I wonder if you even understand what I'm getting at", I was talking about whether or not you understand what an argument is. I hope you understand now. Please post something relevant. The best way for you to prove we are wrong is to prove it. In order to prove it you need to demonstrate it.

You never do that though, you just constantly go on about indoctrination and tell stories about what you think reality is without ever attempting to demonstrate it.

For the record, my demonstration about how a sun cannot set on a flat earth was not memorized or regurgitated. It was demonstrated and it came from me, not a textbook. That is how you demonstrate something.
You've demonstrated nothing factual. Nobody really has, because none of us really know the true Earth in its entirety.

You merely saying you do this and that whilst I supposedly don't is neither here nor there to me. You're nothing special, you're just an angry little punter having a 10 minute spell every now and again.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2014, 06:51:47 AM »
Do either of you stop to check if you've actually typed out an argument before you hit the enter key?
Stop panicking and fretting.
Nobody's asking you to respond, just sit back and chill out and enjoy basking in your global Earth bull shit.

Absolutely incapable of posting an actual argument. I wonder if you even understand what I'm getting at.
Of course I don't understand what you're getting at. It's all made up gibberish. It's not meant to be understood, it's just meant to be memorised and regurgitated which many of you lot do quite well at.
One day you might engage your brain. I doubt it but it is possible.
How does your computer and the internet work, all gibberish?
The computer is real. It's made up of components put together by clever people. The real scientists and engineers of this world.
I don't have any issues with stuff like that. Just the bull shit artists.

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Re: A glass dome in the sky? Really?
« Reply #59 on: June 11, 2014, 06:56:23 AM »
Do either of you stop to check if you've actually typed out an argument before you hit the enter key?
Stop panicking and fretting.
Nobody's asking you to respond, just sit back and chill out and enjoy basking in your global Earth bull shit.

Absolutely incapable of posting an actual argument. I wonder if you even understand what I'm getting at.
Of course I don't understand what you're getting at. It's all made up gibberish. It's not meant to be understood, it's just meant to be memorised and regurgitated which many of you lot do quite well at.
One day you might engage your brain. I doubt it but it is possible.

I'm actually not referring to arguments about the earth being round or flat here. When I said, "I wonder if you even understand what I'm getting at", I was talking about whether or not you understand what an argument is. I hope you understand now. Please post something relevant. The best way for you to prove we are wrong is to prove it. In order to prove it you need to demonstrate it.

You never do that though, you just constantly go on about indoctrination and tell stories about what you think reality is without ever attempting to demonstrate it.

For the record, my demonstration about how a sun cannot set on a flat earth was not memorized or regurgitated. It was demonstrated and it came from me, not a textbook. That is how you demonstrate something.
You've demonstrated nothing factual. Nobody really has, because none of us really know the true Earth in its entirety.

You merely saying you do this and that whilst I supposedly don't is neither here nor there to me. You're nothing special, you're just an angry little punter having a 10 minute spell every now and again.

Please post an argument. Stop with your irrelevant babble.



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I appreciate that you try. However, I do hope you are aware that it is quite obvious that objects appear closer to the horizon the further away they get. Nobody has a problem with this. You are incorrect though. As demonstrated, it will NEVER EVER get cut off by land or sea on a flat earth. As it approaches the horizon, it will keep getting closer but it will do so infinitely and at smaller and yes smaller intervals forever proportionally to the distance. As it does this, the sun will also get smaller. Neither of these are observed.

The sun stays nearly the same size and it goes behind the horizon even though it is nearly the same size.