The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)

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Sculelos

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2014, 07:52:16 PM »
How did you measure 32deg?

Because I seen it with my own eyes and measured the width normally it's about 5 degrees but on some night in 2012 I measured it as about 32 degrees as it just looked absolutely huge to my own eyes but I really didn't think much of it at that time. Still I'm not sure what I saw that night as I haven't seen it again since then. However seems like what caused it's a rather rare phenomenon as I haven't see it the same since then and that was probably a year and a half ago. 

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2014, 08:15:01 PM »
You do realise that 32 degrees would take up over 1/6th of the sky? 
How did you obtain this measurement?  Something seems off.

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Sculelos

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #62 on: January 20, 2014, 08:24:35 PM »
You do realise that 32 degrees would take up over 1/6th of the sky? 
How did you obtain this measurement?  Something seems off.

Optical Degrees which means that if 360 degrees is all around you and 180 degrees is in front of you from holding your hands straight out side by side then 90 degrees is half your arm span 45 degrees is half of half your arm-span then 30 degrees is 2/3rds of half of half of your arm-span. Fingers were used to tighten the measurement to 32 degrees but with my method I could have been upwards to a few degrees off but I'm pretty accurate using this method.

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2014, 02:05:24 AM »

I really don't know where you come up with some of what you say. There is a "supermoon" and while the term originated with astrology, not astronomy, it does exist.


Nope.  The term "supermoon" is NOT an astronomical term used by any astronomer or astrophysicist.  I also think you may be confusing the 14% larger with its diameter, and not its area?

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2014, 02:14:54 AM »

Optical Degrees which means that if 360 degrees is all around you and 180 degrees is in front of you from holding your hands straight out side by side then 90 degrees is half your arm span 45 degrees is half of half your arm-span then 30 degrees is 2/3rds of half of half of your arm-span. Fingers were used to tighten the measurement to 32 degrees but with my method I could have been upwards to a few degrees off but I'm pretty accurate using this method.


Other than this method of measuring the subtended angle of the moon being hopelessly inaccurate, it's technically incorrect.  The figure is actually 0.524º and nowhere near 32º.

You need a theodolite to measure and confirm this.



 
[Note:  The "½" in the diagram is a soft conversion of 0.524]
 
 

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dephelis

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2014, 11:17:50 AM »

I really don't know where you come up with some of what you say. There is a "supermoon" and while the term originated with astrology, not astronomy, it does exist.


Nope.  The term "supermoon" is NOT an astronomical term used by any astronomer or astrophysicist.  I also think you may be confusing the 14% larger with its diameter, and not its area?

Quite. Although I must admit that perigee-syzygy is not the friendliest term. :)

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robintex

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2014, 11:22:24 AM »
I'd say that's like a slightly larger Moon then normal, definitely not the Super moon I'm talking about.



Do you understand anything about photos taken with a telephoto lens ?

That reminds me of this old item that was posted several years ago (it might haven been on another website)

"On a certain night the Moon and Mars will appear to be the same size.....
And then when you turn the page and read the rest of the sentence
".......when Mars is viewed with a telescope." (of a certain power)
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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2014, 11:36:49 AM »
I was looking at the Moon tonight and noticed that the Moonshine looks exactly like the flat Earth model, so I have recreated it for your viewing pleasure to see how I view the Earth, The Heavens and the Entire Universe.







Are you sure you are not just repeating that myth about the ancients who thought that the moon was just a mirror and what you see was a reflection of the earth ? I think then term is "plagriarism."|?
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Stick close , very close , to your P.C.and never go to sea
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Look out your window , see what you shall see
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Chorus:
Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !

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dephelis

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2014, 12:57:59 PM »

Optical Degrees which means that if 360 degrees is all around you and 180 degrees is in front of you from holding your hands straight out side by side then 90 degrees is half your arm span 45 degrees is half of half your arm-span then 30 degrees is 2/3rds of half of half of your arm-span. Fingers were used to tighten the measurement to 32 degrees but with my method I could have been upwards to a few degrees off but I'm pretty accurate using this method.


Other than this method of measuring the subtended angle of the moon being hopelessly inaccurate, it's technically incorrect.  The figure is actually 0.524º and nowhere near 32º.

You need a theodolite to measure and confirm this.



 
[Note:  The "½" in the diagram is a soft conversion of 0.524]

You could always use the rough guide of:

Little finger - 1 degree
Thumb - 2 degrees
Fist - 10 degrees

All of these are to be held at arms length from your eye.

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Sculelos

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2014, 08:02:17 PM »
I was looking at the Moon tonight and noticed that the Moonshine looks exactly like the flat Earth model, so I have recreated it for your viewing pleasure to see how I view the Earth, The Heavens and the Entire Universe.


Are you sure you are not just repeating that myth about the ancients who thought that the moon was just a mirror and what you see was a reflection of the earth ? I think then term is "plagriarism."|?

I haven't heard about that but if you have any links to share I'd love to read about it.

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2014, 09:08:45 AM »

I really don't know where you come up with some of what you say. There is a "supermoon" and while the term originated with astrology, not astronomy, it does exist.


Nope.  The term "supermoon" is NOT an astronomical term used by any astronomer or astrophysicist.  I also think you may be confusing the 14% larger with its diameter, and not its area?

Thank you for pointing out something I that's actually posted in my quote. As I acknowledged, the term originated in astrology but is now pretty much accepted as a colloquial term for "perigee-syzygy" which astronomers use. As evidence of that fact I posted an article from NASA using the term "supermoon".

Your contention was that the supermoon does not exist and implied that belief of its existence in the 21st century is akin to believing evil spirits cause sneezes. This is incorrect.

As to the second part, I really don't understand what your getting at. If my math is correct, a 14% increase of the surface would be an increase of about 6.8% to it's diameter, so I'm still wondering where you got the 1.5% maximum figure.

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Sculelos

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #71 on: January 22, 2014, 11:09:12 AM »
Seems like the Sun meshes well with the rest of the images.



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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2014, 03:56:39 PM »
What program are you using to make these, Sculelo?
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Sculelos

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Re: The Moon Supports the BiPolar Model. (56K Warning)
« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2014, 10:01:44 PM »
What program are you using to make these, Sculelo?

The Gimp.