I need a hard evidence.

I am new to this forum.
I distrust of governments and NASA. but I always look for logic. if the earth is flat must show compelling evidence, a photo, a video something ...

If this is true then you must explain in detail. which is falsehood.

http://noticiaaldia.com/2013/12/la-foto-selfie-que-se-tomo-este-astronauta-desde-el-espacio-es-sensacion-en-la-red/

No one get's past me. As I am the Ice wall protector, Passing me and my wrath is impossible.

No one get's past me. As I am the Ice wall protector, Passing me and my wrath is impossible.

Not for jokes the question is serious. If something is false then there must be evidence to prove it false. if you do not have the proof then you become a liar.

I have an open mind. but to believe. need to prove the truth you've read is false.

If there is no evidence. So I can not contradict truth.

I can believe that the earth is flat, but I will not without evidence. convincing and irrefutable.

I am new to this forum.
I distrust of governments and NASA. but I always look for logic. if the earth is flat must show compelling evidence, a photo, a video something ...

If this is true then you must explain in detail. which is falsehood.

http://noticiaaldia.com/2013/12/la-foto-selfie-que-se-tomo-este-astronauta-desde-el-espacio-es-sensacion-en-la-red/

It seems the answer is simple.
There simply is no evidence for a flat earth, but there is compelling evidence for the earth is as it is...."An Oblate Spheroid" is the more technical term, I think.

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 10:35:07 AM

I am new to this forum.
I distrust of governments and NASA. but I always look for logic. if the earth is flat must show compelling evidence, a photo, a video something ...

If this is true then you must explain in detail. which is falsehood.

http://noticiaaldia.com/2013/12/la-foto-selfie-que-se-tomo-este-astronauta-desde-el-espacio-es-sensacion-en-la-red/

It seems the answer is simple.
There simply is no evidence for a flat earth, but there is compelling evidence for the earth is as it is...."An Oblate Spheroid" is the more technical term, I think.

The point is that the space exists. space station exists. As this forum respond to this video.

# t = 735" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> # t = 735

if the video is fake or why one must prove that it is false. Where is the falsehood?

Quote from: Moosedrool on December 31, 2013, 10:39:35 AM

No one get's past me. As I am the Ice wall protector, Passing me and my wrath is impossible.

Not for jokes the question is serious. If something is false then there must be evidence to prove it false. if you do not have the proof then you become a liar.

I have an open mind. but to believe. need to prove the truth you've read is false.

If there is no evidence. So I can not contradict truth.

I can believe that the earth is flat, but I will not without evidence. convincing and irrefutable.

If you're so open minded that you are willing to believe alternate hypotheses then you should not be asking anyone for any definite proof.
If there was definite proof then you would be already subscribed to it, as would every person alive.
If you are really interested in searching for the truth, then take a look at the rotating globe model and all the absolute garbage that went into making it what it is, then look at the alternatives using logic and common sense and you may convince yourself to dig deeper into your thoughts to aid in proving that alternative, piece by piece,a s long as you are not afraid of attempts at ridicule from brainwashed global earthers.

If you decide to stick rigid to what you are saying, then all you are to me is another global earth brainwashed person to add to the nest of them on here.

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 31, 2013, 11:07:21 AM

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 10:35:07 AM

I am new to this forum.
I distrust of governments and NASA. but I always look for logic. if the earth is flat must show compelling evidence, a photo, a video something ...

If this is true then you must explain in detail. which is falsehood.

http://noticiaaldia.com/2013/12/la-foto-selfie-que-se-tomo-este-astronauta-desde-el-espacio-es-sensacion-en-la-red/

It seems the answer is simple.
There simply is no evidence for a flat earth, but there is compelling evidence for the earth is as it is...."An Oblate Spheroid" is the more technical term, I think.

The point is that the space exists. space station exists. As this forum respond to this video.

# t = 735" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> # t = 735

if the video is fake or why one must prove that it is false. Where is the falsehood?

I think you've already made up your mind. You can take your place behind the other oblate spheroidites and take your turn in patting each other on the back.
Make your ridicule of people appear funny though so we can all have a laugh and go on from there.
If at any time you get frustrated and irritated, which you will when you realise that you are another global earth nut that's been tossed aside after all your effort.
Good luck...now start your bull crap.

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 10:55:23 AM

Quote from: Moosedrool on December 31, 2013, 10:39:35 AM

No one get's past me. As I am the Ice wall protector, Passing me and my wrath is impossible.

Not for jokes the question is serious. If something is false then there must be evidence to prove it false. if you do not have the proof then you become a liar.

I have an open mind. but to believe. need to prove the truth you've read is false.

If there is no evidence. So I can not contradict truth.

I can believe that the earth is flat, but I will not without evidence. convincing and irrefutable.

If you're so open minded that you are willing to believe alternate hypotheses then you should not be asking anyone for any definite proof.
If there was definite proof then you would be already subscribed to it, as would every person alive.
If you are really interested in searching for the truth, then take a look at the rotating globe model and all the absolute garbage that went into making it what it is, then look at the alternatives using logic and common sense and you may convince yourself to dig deeper into your thoughts to aid in proving that alternative, piece by piece,a s long as you are not afraid of attempts at ridicule from brainwashed global earthers.

If you decide to stick rigid to what you are saying, then all you are to me is another global earth brainwashed person to add to the nest of them on here.

It seems that this signature line of sokarul also applies to sceptimatic.:
"I make a living doing what sandokhan  sceptimatic says is impossible."

This may seem rude and impolite, but the honest truth is that those who have been on this website or heard of this website are laughing at the so-called "Flat Earthers."

It's not a question of frustration. It's a never ending source of amusement to a lot of people who come here first open minded to see what the so-called "Flat Earthers" have to say and are open minded but after a while - as one reviewer said of a book - "It's so stupid it's funny."

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 11:13:42 AM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 31, 2013, 11:07:21 AM

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 10:35:07 AM

I am new to this forum.
I distrust of governments and NASA. but I always look for logic. if the earth is flat must show compelling evidence, a photo, a video something ...

If this is true then you must explain in detail. which is falsehood.

http://noticiaaldia.com/2013/12/la-foto-selfie-que-se-tomo-este-astronauta-desde-el-espacio-es-sensacion-en-la-red/

It seems the answer is simple.
There simply is no evidence for a flat earth, but there is compelling evidence for the earth is as it is...."An Oblate Spheroid" is the more technical term, I think.

The point is that the space exists. space station exists. As this forum respond to this video.

# t = 735" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> # t = 735

if the video is fake or why one must prove that it is false. Where is the falsehood?

I think you've already made up your mind. You can take your place behind the other oblate spheroidites and take your turn in patting each other on the back.
Make your ridicule of people appear funny though so we can all have a laugh and go on from there.
If at any time you get frustrated and irritated, which you will when you realise that you are another global earth nut that's been tossed aside after all your effort.
Good luck...now start your bull crap.

If you have the truth, must prove the truth, and if this video is fake should try. that's my point

sceptimatic  sorry, you should stop talking to the experts, unless you do not have just bla bla bla

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 31, 2013, 11:17:05 AM

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 10:55:23 AM

Quote from: Moosedrool on December 31, 2013, 10:39:35 AM

No one get's past me. As I am the Ice wall protector, Passing me and my wrath is impossible.

Not for jokes the question is serious. If something is false then there must be evidence to prove it false. if you do not have the proof then you become a liar.

I have an open mind. but to believe. need to prove the truth you've read is false.

If there is no evidence. So I can not contradict truth.

I can believe that the earth is flat, but I will not without evidence. convincing and irrefutable.

If you're so open minded that you are willing to believe alternate hypotheses then you should not be asking anyone for any definite proof.
If there was definite proof then you would be already subscribed to it, as would every person alive.
If you are really interested in searching for the truth, then take a look at the rotating globe model and all the absolute garbage that went into making it what it is, then look at the alternatives using logic and common sense and you may convince yourself to dig deeper into your thoughts to aid in proving that alternative, piece by piece,a s long as you are not afraid of attempts at ridicule from brainwashed global earthers.

If you decide to stick rigid to what you are saying, then all you are to me is another global earth brainwashed person to add to the nest of them on here.

It seems that this signature line also applies to sceptimatic.:
"I make a living doing what sandokhan says is impossible."

This may seem rude and impolite, but the honest truth is that those who have been on this website or heard of this website are laughing at the so-called "Flat Earthers."

It's not a question of frustration. It's a never ending source of amusement to a lot of people who come here first open minded to see what the so-called "Flat Earthers" have to say and are open minded but after a whle - as one reviewer said of a book - "It's so stupid it's funny."

Is this why you got so frustrated you were asking for bans and threatening to leave having spat out your large dummy?
You fool no one and your belief in your importance to this forum has been shot down like a paper plane fighter pilot up against an f14 tomcat.

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 31, 2013, 11:20:47 AM

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 11:13:42 AM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 31, 2013, 11:07:21 AM

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 10:35:07 AM

I am new to this forum.
I distrust of governments and NASA. but I always look for logic. if the earth is flat must show compelling evidence, a photo, a video something ...

If this is true then you must explain in detail. which is falsehood.

http://noticiaaldia.com/2013/12/la-foto-selfie-que-se-tomo-este-astronauta-desde-el-espacio-es-sensacion-en-la-red/

It seems the answer is simple.
There simply is no evidence for a flat earth, but there is compelling evidence for the earth is as it is...."An Oblate Spheroid" is the more technical term, I think.

The point is that the space exists. space station exists. As this forum respond to this video.

# t = 735" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> # t = 735

if the video is fake or why one must prove that it is false. Where is the falsehood?

I think you've already made up your mind. You can take your place behind the other oblate spheroidites and take your turn in patting each other on the back.
Make your ridicule of people appear funny though so we can all have a laugh and go on from there.
If at any time you get frustrated and irritated, which you will when you realise that you are another global earth nut that's been tossed aside after all your effort.
Good luck...now start your bull crap.

If you have the truth, must prove the truth, and if this video is fake should try. that's my point

sceptimatic  sorry, you should stop talking to the experts, unless you do not have just bla bla bla

As soon as you put an expert in front of me, I'll take that on board. Do you know of any?

I need an answer from an adult, flat land on this video and ISS. no children.

#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NASA Conducts Second Spacewalk to Fix Coolant Pump on ISS

ISS online:

http://iss.stormway.ru/

Whoever had the idea to make this page, then you must have the answers.

I need an answer from an adult, flat land on this video and ISS. no children.

#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NASA Conducts Second Spacewalk to Fix Coolant Pump on ISS

ISS online:

http://iss.stormway.ru/

Whoever had the idea to make this page, then you must have the answers.

You were the one who made this page, so what are the answers?

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 11:46:21 AM

I need an answer from an adult, flat land on this video and ISS. no children.

#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NASA Conducts Second Spacewalk to Fix Coolant Pump on ISS

ISS online:

http://iss.stormway.ru/

Whoever had the idea to make this page, then you must have the answers.

You were the one who made this page, so what are the answers?

I need proof that what I post is fake but you can try it, better not comment please.

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 31, 2013, 11:20:47 AM

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 11:13:42 AM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 31, 2013, 11:07:21 AM

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 10:35:07 AM

I am new to this forum.
I distrust of governments and NASA. but I always look for logic. if the earth is flat must show compelling evidence, a photo, a video something ...

If this is true then you must explain in detail. which is falsehood.

http://noticiaaldia.com/2013/12/la-foto-selfie-que-se-tomo-este-astronauta-desde-el-espacio-es-sensacion-en-la-red/

It seems the answer is simple.
There simply is no evidence for a flat earth, but there is compelling evidence for the earth is as it is...."An Oblate Spheroid" is the more technical term, I think.

The point is that the space exists. space station exists. As this forum respond to this video.

# t = 735" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> # t = 735

if the video is fake or why one must prove that it is false. Where is the falsehood?

I think you've already made up your mind. You can take your place behind the other oblate spheroidites and take your turn in patting each other on the back.
Make your ridicule of people appear funny though so we can all have a laugh and go on from there.
If at any time you get frustrated and irritated, which you will when you realise that you are another global earth nut that's been tossed aside after all your effort.
Good luck...now start your bull crap.

If you have the truth, must prove the truth, and if this video is fake should try. that's my point

sceptimatic  sorry, you should stop talking to the experts, unless you do not have just bla bla bla

My suggestion that the Flat Earth Society ban sceptimatic was because of that Caballero ...

That most of what sceptimatic posts is just plain bla bla and reflects rather badly on the Flat Earth Society.  I think sceptimatic has even said that he disagrees with the Flat Earth Society on a lot of things, too.

I have seen some early posts that Flat Earthers note that a lot of "Round Earthers" come to this website and eventually leave after a while, so  I thought that would be nothing unusual once you have been on this website and noticed the usual routines of the Flat Earthers in answering or not answering questions about Flat Earth theories.....If you can calll them theories, that is.

There are a lot more important and more well informed persons than myself, but I am a persistent nit-picker and if I see something that is incorrect or false my problem is that I post something with the facts. That old one about the distance of the earth to the moon for example. It got to be hilarious right at the start. 

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 11:26:45 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 31, 2013, 11:20:47 AM

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 11:13:42 AM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 31, 2013, 11:07:21 AM

Quote from: Caballero on December 31, 2013, 10:35:07 AM

I am new to this forum.
I distrust of governments and NASA. but I always look for logic. if the earth is flat must show compelling evidence, a photo, a video something ...

If this is true then you must explain in detail. which is falsehood.

http://noticiaaldia.com/2013/12/la-foto-selfie-que-se-tomo-este-astronauta-desde-el-espacio-es-sensacion-en-la-red/

It seems the answer is simple.
There simply is no evidence for a flat earth, but there is compelling evidence for the earth is as it is...."An Oblate Spheroid" is the more technical term, I think.

The point is that the space exists. space station exists. As this forum respond to this video.

# t = 735" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> # t = 735

if the video is fake or why one must prove that it is false. Where is the falsehood?

I think you've already made up your mind. You can take your place behind the other oblate spheroidites and take your turn in patting each other on the back.
Make your ridicule of people appear funny though so we can all have a laugh and go on from there.
If at any time you get frustrated and irritated, which you will when you realise that you are another global earth nut that's been tossed aside after all your effort.
Good luck...now start your bull crap.

If you have the truth, must prove the truth, and if this video is fake should try. that's my point

sceptimatic  sorry, you should stop talking to the experts, unless you do not have just bla bla bla

As soon as you put an expert in front of me, I'll take that on board. Do you know of any?

Sceptimatic, it has been suggested , time and time again, that you DO contact an expert. There have been lists with websites to contact. There is no end of places for you to "put an expert in front of me". Should they be listed again for your reference ? How about some Flat Earth experts for you to "put an expert in front of me" ?

I am new to this forum.
I distrust of governments and NASA. but I always look for logic. if the earth is flat must show compelling evidence, a photo, a video something ...

If this is true then you must explain in detail. which is falsehood.

http://noticiaaldia.com/2013/12/la-foto-selfie-que-se-tomo-este-astronauta-desde-el-espacio-es-sensacion-en-la-red/

Would you be distrustful of astronomical observatories for evidence ? Just for an example ?

here is empirical evidence the earth is flat
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here is empirical evidence the earth is flat
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Complete rubbish.

Quote from: jhenningkelloggia on January 02, 2014, 11:26:18 AM

here is empirical evidence the earth is flat
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Complete rubbish.

And why would that be?

Quote from: inquisitive on January 02, 2014, 11:44:03 AM

Quote from: jhenningkelloggia on January 02, 2014, 11:26:18 AM

here is empirical evidence the earth is flat
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Complete rubbish.

And why would that be?

Where did the 4000 miles thing come from?  The horizon line is not 90deg from the vertical. It's below if viewed above ground level.  You look down at the horizion.

Where did the 4000 miles thing come from?  The horizon line is not 90deg from the vertical. It's below if viewed above ground level. 

The whole video is full of so many scientific errors of fact it's impossible to debunk on just one page LOL.  I don't know whether it's been posted as a practical joke, or whether the OP is serious.  If it's the latter, he needs psychological intervention.

Q:
Where did the 4000 miles thing come from?  The horizon line is not 90deg from the vertical. It's below if viewed above ground level.  You look down at the horizion.
[/quote]
A:
the round earth theory says the round earth is 8000 miles in diameter...
at 6am and 6pm on the equator, the sun would be half that distance, 4000 miles below your feet...
you will never see the horizon line lower then at eye level... ever... no matter how high you go...
let alone seeing the horizon line at your feet... I promise, you are mistaken in your assumptions

Q:
Where did the 4000 miles thing come from?  The horizon line is not 90deg from the vertical. It's below if viewed above ground level.  You look down at the horizion.

A:
the round earth theory says the round earth is 8000 miles in diameter...
at 6am and 6pm on the equator, the earth would be half that distance, 4000 miles below your feet...
you will never see the horizon lower then at eye level... ever... no matter how high you go...
let alone seeing the horizon line at your feet... I promise, you are mistaken in your assumptions
[/quote]

But the sun is also 865,000 miles in diameter.
The center of the sun might be 4000 miles below your feet, but the edge of the sun is also 427,500 miles above your eye level.  So why wouldn't you see the sun?

Q:
But the sun is also 865,000 miles in diameter.
The center of the sun might be 4000 miles below your feet, but the edge of the sun is also 427,500 miles above your eye level.  So why wouldn't you see the sun?
A:
the distance of the sun from the earth would be irrelevant

Q:
But the sun is also 865,000 miles in diameter.
The center of the sun might be 4000 miles below your feet, but the edge of the sun is also 427,500 miles above your eye level.  So why wouldn't you see the sun?
A:
the distance of the sun from the earth would be irrelevant

Who said anything about the distance from the earth to the sun?

The diameter of the sun is 865,000 miles.

R:
Who said anything about the distance from the earth to the sun?

The diameter of the sun is 865,000 miles.

A:
the actual size is irrelevant to its apparent size

Once again

The center of the sun might be 4000 miles below your feet, but the edge of the sun is also 427,500 miles above your eye level.  So why wouldn't you see the sun?

Your claim is that the sun is 4000 miles below your feet. 

I have shown you that the sun is many thousands of miles above your eye level.

the actual size is irrelevant to its apparent size