How far could you see?

Further more 22:40 in the Quran is:

"[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ." And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might."

dear th3rm0m3t3r0,
keep watching me in Algeria,
it's 22:40 PM (to night) but
I'm watching the sun now,
 it's getting more and more
 closer to its boiling spring!

Not sure what that means.

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 01, 2014, 11:53:08 AM

When I find out what can be used to hear the sound of a bell in a partially evacuated chamber I will let you know. In the mean time, do you know of anything that could do this?

Here's your answer:  BELL IN EVACUATED BELL JAR

So I'll now await your answer to my question:

"How can you—personally—hear the sound that a light bulb is making if you're "too primitive" to notice it?"

I'm still awaiting your answer to this question sceptimatic 24 hours later.

Quote from: ausGeoff on January 01, 2014, 12:39:19 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 01, 2014, 11:53:08 AM

When I find out what can be used to hear the sound of a bell in a partially evacuated chamber I will let you know. In the mean time, do you know of anything that could do this?

Here's your answer:  BELL IN EVACUATED BELL JAR

So I'll now await your answer to my question:

"How can you—personally—hear the sound that a light bulb is making if you're "too primitive" to notice it?"

I'm still awaiting your answer to this question sceptimatic 24 hours later.

I answered. Look back.

I answered. Look back.

Nope.  You avoided the my question totally.

This is the only post you made since I asked you (and after I posted my video link of the ringing bell in the evacuated jar):

Everything on earth is magnetic. The air you breathe is all magnetic.
If you start thinking about bar magnets and stuff then you will just confuse the issue.

How then can you claim to have answered my question:  How can you—personally—hear the sound that a light bulb is making if you're "too primitive" to notice it?

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 02, 2014, 07:58:04 AM

I answered. Look back.

Nope.  You avoided the my question totally.

This is the only post you made since I asked you (and after I posted my video link of the ringing bell in the evacuated jar):

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Everything on earth is magnetic. The air you breathe is all magnetic.
If you start thinking about bar magnets and stuff then you will just confuse the issue.

How then can you claim to have answered my question:  How can you—personally—hear the sound that a light bulb is making if you're "too primitive" to notice it?

I can't personally hear it and like I explained before. If you can find something that can personally hear the bell in a partially evacuated chamber then let me know, as it may be the very thing that can also hear the sound in a bulb. How's that?
I already told you this but you must have gone blind.

I can't personally hear it and like I explained before.

Thank you.  That was the admission I was seeking after you claimed that light bulbs made a noise.  So you obviously can't be certain that they do?  Apparently you're relying on third-party evidence, which you yourself always dismiss as being unacceptable in any argument.   According to you, if one can't hear or see something personally, then it's not guaranteed to be authentic, and is nothing more than hearsay.

So now you're moving the goalposts in an attempt to justify the faulty logic of your argument.  Not good enough.

If you can find something that can personally hear the bell in a partially evacuated chamber then let me know, as it may be the very thing that can also hear the sound in a bulb. How's that?

I've already posted the video link:  HERE
 

The sound is being picked up by the microphone on an ordinary digital camera.

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 02, 2014, 10:39:00 AM

I can't personally hear it and like I explained before.

Thank you.  That was the admission I was seeking after you claimed that light bulbs made a noise.  So you obviously can't be certain that they do?  Apparently you're relying on third-party evidence, which you yourself always dismiss as being unacceptable in any argument.   According to you, if one can't hear or see something personally, then it's not guaranteed to be authentic, and is nothing more than hearsay.

So now you're moving the goalposts in an attempt to justify the faulty logic of your argument.  Not good enough.

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If you can find something that can personally hear the bell in a partially evacuated chamber then let me know, as it may be the very thing that can also hear the sound in a bulb. How's that?

I've already posted the video link:  HERE
 

The sound is being picked up by the microphone on an ordinary digital camera.

So what do you think about this?
#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">WIll Light Bulbs Make Sound? Experiment

So what do you think about this?

You tell us scepti?

Is it the light producing sound or the vibration of the light bulbs on an alternating current?

That is nice.  He made a simple speaker.

He hooked some christmas lights to a home stereo, glued them to some paper, then put a magnet near them.  He could have done that my just coiling some wire and gluing that to the paper.

You do realize how speakers work right Scepti?

So now.  Tell me, how does this show that sound and light are the same thing?

I can't prove anything to you people. You lot are so thoroughly brainwashed or ordered to keep up a ruse that nothing can be said, shown or anything else that can make you even give it a thought. Your minds are already made up, which is fair enough, because I was under no illusions that I was dealing with anything less.

I can't prove anything to you people. You lot are so thoroughly brainwashed or ordered to keep up a ruse that nothing can be said, shown or anything else that can make you even give it a thought. Your minds are already made up, which is fair enough, because I was under no illusions that I was dealing with anything less.

Once again.  You can't prove anything to me because YOU haven't done any sort of investigative experiments.  If light and sound are the same, then develop an experiment and show it.

If atmospheric pressure caused what we perceive as gravity, develop an experiment and prove it.

List what you have done in your experiments and let everyone here know about them.  GIve us enough information to repeat the experiments.  It is that simple scepti. 

When questioned to elaborate on your ideas, don't just say "Figure it out yourself.  Use your logic" 

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 02, 2014, 12:06:55 PM

I can't prove anything to you people. You lot are so thoroughly brainwashed or ordered to keep up a ruse that nothing can be said, shown or anything else that can make you even give it a thought. Your minds are already made up, which is fair enough, because I was under no illusions that I was dealing with anything less.

Once again.  You can't prove anything to me because YOU haven't done any sort of investigative experiments.  If light and sound are the same, then develop an experiment and show it.

If atmospheric pressure caused what we perceive as gravity, develop an experiment and prove it.

List what you have done in your experiments and let everyone here know about them.  GIve us enough information to repeat the experiments.  It is that simple scepti. 

When questioned to elaborate on your ideas, don't just say "Figure it out yourself.  Use your logic"

You mean, I have to develop experiments to prove what I'm saying and you lot can provide none to back up anything you lot say?

Quote from: BJ1234 on January 02, 2014, 12:20:45 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 02, 2014, 12:06:55 PM

I can't prove anything to you people. You lot are so thoroughly brainwashed or ordered to keep up a ruse that nothing can be said, shown or anything else that can make you even give it a thought. Your minds are already made up, which is fair enough, because I was under no illusions that I was dealing with anything less.

Once again.  You can't prove anything to me because YOU haven't done any sort of investigative experiments.  If light and sound are the same, then develop an experiment and show it.

If atmospheric pressure caused what we perceive as gravity, develop an experiment and prove it.

List what you have done in your experiments and let everyone here know about them.  GIve us enough information to repeat the experiments.  It is that simple scepti. 

When questioned to elaborate on your ideas, don't just say "Figure it out yourself.  Use your logic"

You mean, I have to develop experiments to prove what I'm saying and you lot can provide none to back up anything you lot say?

Except we show you literature and we do back up what we say.  You just dismiss it as science mumbo jumbo.

The rare-earth magnet simply induces a tiny eddy current in the wires connecting the diodes.

You don't even need to have the lights themselves in the circuit to get this effect.

At any rate, the amplified sound is not produced by the electroluminescence of the LED itself, so there's no correlation of light with sound production.

Quote from: BJ1234 on January 02, 2014, 12:20:45 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 02, 2014, 12:06:55 PM

I can't prove anything to you people. You lot are so thoroughly brainwashed or ordered to keep up a ruse that nothing can be said, shown or anything else that can make you even give it a thought. Your minds are already made up, which is fair enough, because I was under no illusions that I was dealing with anything less.

Once again.  You can't prove anything to me because YOU haven't done any sort of investigative experiments.  If light and sound are the same, then develop an experiment and show it.

If atmospheric pressure caused what we perceive as gravity, develop an experiment and prove it.

List what you have done in your experiments and let everyone here know about them.  GIve us enough information to repeat the experiments.  It is that simple scepti. 

When questioned to elaborate on your ideas, don't just say "Figure it out yourself.  Use your logic"

You mean, I have to develop experiments to prove what I'm saying and you lot can provide none to back up anything you lot say?

We could repeat the countless of experiments performed in history that turned the public's view into the accepted round model. Which is what 99.999% of the population agree's with. Numerous experimental methods performed in history has been pointed out but was just debunked by your little group here that claims they are scientists in their own right.

Your claim is that the earth is flat while it is accepted as round. You claim that whateverpressure is the cause for motion and gravity. You are claiming that sound and light are the same thing. Thus you do have something called the burden of proof I guess. We are on FES right?

I would however stress: No scientists ever walks into the field without understanding, "not accepting, just understanding" the fundamental laws of physics. Not because of just because, but it's that you wouldn't be the first one getting but hurt with radical theories. A great eye opener as to what extraordinary results the experiment needs to give to uhm, let's say, falsify Newton's 3 laws of motion. lel

Quote from: BJ1234 on January 02, 2014, 12:20:45 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 02, 2014, 12:06:55 PM

I can't prove anything to you people. You lot are so thoroughly brainwashed or ordered to keep up a ruse that nothing can be said, shown or anything else that can make you even give it a thought. Your minds are already made up, which is fair enough, because I was under no illusions that I was dealing with anything less.

Once again.  You can't prove anything to me because YOU haven't done any sort of investigative experiments.  If light and sound are the same, then develop an experiment and show it.

If atmospheric pressure caused what we perceive as gravity, develop an experiment and prove it.

List what you have done in your experiments and let everyone here know about them.  GIve us enough information to repeat the experiments.  It is that simple scepti. 

When questioned to elaborate on your ideas, don't just say "Figure it out yourself.  Use your logic"

You mean, I have to develop experiments to prove what I'm saying and you lot can provide none to back up anything you lot say?

we showed you a bell in a (partial) vacuum chamber. the bell noise got quieter as it was evacuated but you could still see through the chamber to see the bell and indeed the wall behind it showing that light but not sound can travel through a partially evacuated chamber.

Or that the video was faked for some obscure reason i guess. No idea why someone would go to all that trouble though.