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This is why I have decided to ignore EJ.

Why? Because I have single handedly dafeted you in debate and you now have to resort to trolling accusations because you cant think up anything else?

Quote from: REphoenix on September 08, 2013, 02:41:10 PM

This is why I have decided to ignore EJ.

Why? Because I have single handedly dafeted you in debate and you now have to resort to trolling accusations because you cant think up anything else?

Sucks when someone dafets you.

Trolling accusations are due to your apparent incompetence. You should probably prefer to be called a troll rather than the alternative.

Quote from: Excelsior John on September 08, 2013, 02:45:37 PM

Quote from: REphoenix on September 08, 2013, 02:41:10 PM

This is why I have decided to ignore EJ.

Why? Because I have single handedly dafeted you in debate and you now have to resort to trolling accusations because you cant think up anything else?

Sucks when someone dafets you.

Trolling accusations are due to your apparent incompetence. You should probably prefer to be called a troll rather than the alternative.

I have very much competence

Quote from: REphoenix on September 08, 2013, 02:41:10 PM

This is why I have decided to ignore EJ.

Why? Because I have single handedly dafeted you in debate and you now have to resort to trolling accusations because you cant think up anything else?

I apologize in advance for not ignoring him but this is the last time I will respond.

North and South America along with Australia are defined as continents. Whether you think they are made up of islands or not is irrelevent. They are continents. You can't change the fact that they are defined as continents. If you want to be an idiot and think they are groups of islands that is fine, but that group of islands is a continent. Just like how the islands north of Canada are grouped together and called a country along with Canada. The group of islands that we call North America are all grouped together and called a continent.

As for your stupid thoughts abotu Uranus and Neptune: The scientists who made up the rules for what defines a planet decided that U and N follow these rules. It doesn't matter what you think. If the people who made up the rules have decided that something follows the rules then it does. Your opinion is irrelevent. They are planets.

I thought I would just pack it all in here together because I am done talking to you. You can respond to this message if you like but I am going to ignore you from now on. I think you are a terribly obvious troll or a moron and I will now go and debate with people who can understand basic concepts.

Quote from: Excelsior John on September 08, 2013, 02:45:37 PM

Quote from: REphoenix on September 08, 2013, 02:41:10 PM

This is why I have decided to ignore EJ.

Why? Because I have single handedly dafeted you in debate and you now have to resort to trolling accusations because you cant think up anything else?

I apologize in advance for not ignoring him but this is the last time I will respond.

North and South America along with Australia are defined as continents. Whether you think they are made up of islands or not is irrelevent. They are continents. You can't change the fact that they are defined as continents. If you want to be an idiot and think they are groups of islands that is fine, but that group of islands is a continent. Just like how the islands north of Canada are grouped together and called a country along with Canada. The group of islands that we call North America are all grouped together and called a continent.

I dont care that they are defined as continents. They are not continents and should be demoted of there status, why do you wish to live in ignorance? I dont see what the islands north of Canada as a country has to do with anything. They are geographically islands. Country is the goverment having nothing to do with its defanition

As for your stupid thoughts abotu Uranus and Neptune: The scientists who made up the rules for what defines a planet decided that U and N follow these rules. It doesn't matter what you think. If the people who made up the rules have decided that something follows the rules then it does. Your opinion is irrelevent. They are planets.

First, my knowledge on them isnt stupit there the flippin truth. Those scientists made a big mistake and I feel it is my duty to change this defanition. You are undermining me as a scientist I can rise through the ranks and help change it and convince there pathetic minds. This is a prime example for why I see you as nothing but a complete and total moron

I thought I would just pack it all in here together because I am done talking to you. You can respond to this message if you like but I am going to ignore you from now on. I think you are a terribly obvious troll or a moron and I will now go and debate with people who can understand basic concepts.

The only reason why your "done talking to me" is because you know you cant beat me. You are another pathetic rounder who has lost to the Excelsior and end your argument with a trolling acusation. Im certaintly not a troll and you sir are the moron. Just pathetic really

I will continue this debate on the appropriate thread.

Excelsior, that is the craziest thing I have ever heard. North and South America are indeed continents. There is no evidence, in RE or FE Theories, that indicate otherwise. Calling them islands off the coast of Asia is absurd. In fact, in Latin America, there are only six continents, because North and South America are frequently designated as ONE continent, since if the Panama Canal did not exist, one could walk from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego without ever touching water. And the Panama Canal is man-made. I have even occasionally heard that there are five continents, because Asia and Europe get designated as Eurasia. But calling North and South America (whether they are one or two continents) islands is absolutely and completely absurd in the extreme. I am sympathetic to FET, but there are limits, and that is one of them. In the USA, we are taught that there are seven continents, as opposed to six, which is what Latin American kids learn at school. But in both cases, North and South America are (a) continent(s).

Excelsior, that is the craziest thing I have ever heard. North and South America are indeed continents. There is no evidence, in RE or FE Theories, that indicate otherwise. Calling them islands off the coast of Asia is absurd. In fact, in Latin America, there are only six continents, because North and South America are frequently designated as ONE continent, since if the Panama Canal did not exist, one could walk from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego without ever touching water. And the Panama Canal is man-made. I have even occasionally heard that there are five continents, because Asia and Europe get designated as Eurasia. But calling North and South America (whether they are one or two continents) islands is absolutely and completely absurd in the extreme. I am sympathetic to FET, but there are limits, and that is one of them. In the USA, we are taught that there are seven continents, as opposed to six, which is what Latin American kids learn at school. But in both cases, North and South America are (a) continent(s).

That is wrong ive alredey made a root that shows that you cannot reach Alaska because it is cutoff by water. And the Americas are connected to the Asian landmass and most of northern canada is nothing but islands. Why is it that Japan can be considered an Asian island but not the Americas?

Because the Japanese Archipelago is exactly that, an archipelagic set of islands. America is NOT an island.

That is wrong ive alredey made a root that shows that you cannot reach Alaska because it is cutoff by water.

The fact that you have to cross at least one river to get to Alaska does not mean that Alaska is not connected to the rest of North America.

And the Americas are connected to the Asian landmass and most of northern canada is nothing but islands. Why is it that Japan can be considered an Asian island but not the Americas?

How can Japan be a part of Asia if you have to cross water to get from Russia to Japan?

Alright, I'm willing to consider a lot of divergent views, but calling Northern Canada 'a bunch of islands' is absurd! What do you consider northern? Most of us would include a good part of Alaska (most of the state) and the portion of Canada next to it. If you are only including that part that lies north of the Arctic Circle, you are certainly welcome to your opinion, but be advised that it goes against what most of us learn in geography. If you are going to call the Americas (each one of which, North and South, is larger than Australia, which is also a continent) islands, what does that make Europe, which is part of the Eurasian landmass? What about Greenland? If you want to redefine the word 'continent', that is your personal business, but don't expect the rest of us to agree with something so patently ridiculous. I have tried to keep a level head, when I disagree with Rounders or Flatters, but I do NOT take kindly to having my intelligence insulted. Please endeavour to avoid doing so in future.

Alright, I'm willing to consider a lot of divergent views, but calling Northern Canada 'a bunch of islands' is absurd! What do you consider northern? Most of us would include a good part of Alaska (most of the state) and the portion of Canada next to it. If you are only including that part that lies north of the Arctic Circle, you are certainly welcome to your opinion, but be advised that it goes against what most of us learn in geography. If you are going to call the Americas (each one of which, North and South, is larger than Australia, which is also a continent) islands, what does that make Europe, which is part of the Eurasian landmass? What about Greenland? If you want to redefine the word 'continent', that is your personal business, but don't expect the rest of us to agree with something so patently ridiculous. I have tried to keep a level head, when I disagree with Rounders or Flatters, but I do NOT take kindly to having my intelligence insulted. Please endeavour to avoid doing so in future.

Meet Excelsior John, the local troll. If you still want to continue this discussion there is a thread in Science and alternative science.

REPhoenix, greeting! I have encountered many strange ideas in my life, over years of travelling and living in different states and countries. Different cultures view the world with unique perspectives, as, for example, Latin Americans being taught that America is one continent rather than two. I have encountered many different ideas in my day. FET actually has some things going for it, in my opinion. I'm even willing to consider that it might be true. But this idea that America is not a continent, well, that just takes the taco in terms of being complely insane. He actually expects us to take that sitting down? Really?  I can recommend him some good psychiatrists if he tells me where he lives.

REPhoenix, greeting! I have encountered many strange ideas in my life, over years of travelling and living in different states and countries. Different cultures view the world with unique perspectives, as, for example, Latin Americans being taught that America is one continent rather than two. I have encountered many different ideas in my day. FET actually has some things going for it, in my opinion. I'm even willing to consider that it might be true. But this idea that America is not a continent, well, that just takes the taco in terms of being complely insane. He actually expects us to take that sitting down? Really?  I can recommend him some good psychiatrists if he tells me where he lives.

Yep. That's EJ. Don't take what he says to seriously though, there is a 90% chance that he is just messing with everyone.

For his own sake, I hope you're right! If he actually believes some of what he says, then he is truly messed up. I mean, really? America and island off Asia? What other absurd ideas must I be prepared for? God help us!

For his own sake, I hope you're right! If he actually believes some of what he says, then he is truly messed up. I mean, really? America and island off Asia? What other absurd ideas must I be prepared for? God help us!

He also seems to believe that 9/11 didn't happen or even worse, that WTC had never existed.

Well, I believe that 9/11 happened, but not in the way the government told us. I think the government knew about it, and planned it. But to deny that it ever happened is just idiotic. And saying the towers never existed is simply the height of stupid.

Because the Japanese Archipelago is exactly that, an archipelagic set of islands. America is NOT an island.

I didnt say Americas an island. I said its a SET of islands. An island that big would certaintley be more than an island

Quote from: Excelsior John on September 28, 2013, 10:19:43 AM

That is wrong ive alredey made a root that shows that you cannot reach Alaska because it is cutoff by water.

The fact that you have to cross at least one river to get to Alaska does not mean that Alaska is not connected to the rest of North America.

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And the Americas are connected to the Asian landmass and most of northern canada is nothing but islands. Why is it that Japan can be considered an Asian island but not the Americas?

How can Japan be a part of Asia if you have to cross water to get from Russia to Japan?

All of the Americas are a set of islands part of the Asian landmass

Because Japan is an island. Its still part of the Asian landmass though just like the Americas

Alright, I'm willing to consider a lot of divergent views, but calling Northern Canada 'a bunch of islands' is absurd! What do you consider northern? Most of us would include a good part of Alaska (most of the state) and the portion of Canada next to it. If you are only including that part that lies north of the Arctic Circle, you are certainly welcome to your opinion, but be advised that it goes against what most of us learn in geography. If you are going to call the Americas (each one of which, North and South, is larger than Australia, which is also a continent) islands, what does that make Europe, which is part of the Eurasian landmass? What about Greenland? If you want to redefine the word 'continent', that is your personal business, but don't expect the rest of us to agree with something so patently ridiculous. I have tried to keep a level head, when I disagree with Rounders or Flatters, but I do NOT take kindly to having my intelligence insulted. Please endeavour to avoid doing so in future.

Yaakov please acept that I have difrent views insted of jumping on me about it like everyone else here because you were on a pretty good role. Second look at my river thread in Alt Science section where I have analyzed it. Evidence has shown that they are in fact islands that are connected to the Asian landmass and do not deserve continentle status. If you have questions please ask. As for payout comment on Australia I see it as a continent neither. It is an island part of Asia and besides Antartica there are only three continents: Europe Asia and Africa. Europe is seperated by two main factors: the Don River cuts it into two and and the Ural Mountains give a physical boundery. Also Greenland is a North American (which in that case makes it Asian) island it is part of the landmass. And im not rely redefining continent im just bringing it back to its root which means "continous land". "Platantley rediculous": look if you dont want to agree with my view thats fine im just saying look at the evidence. And how am I insulting your flippin inteligence?! Ive alredey presented this view back in August and im not trying to "insult your inteligence" jeez. And dont put my other views in the way of FET this is side stuff

Quote from: Yaakov ben Avraham on September 28, 2013, 09:46:49 PM

Alright, I'm willing to consider a lot of divergent views, but calling Northern Canada 'a bunch of islands' is absurd! What do you consider northern? Most of us would include a good part of Alaska (most of the state) and the portion of Canada next to it. If you are only including that part that lies north of the Arctic Circle, you are certainly welcome to your opinion, but be advised that it goes against what most of us learn in geography. If you are going to call the Americas (each one of which, North and South, is larger than Australia, which is also a continent) islands, what does that make Europe, which is part of the Eurasian landmass? What about Greenland? If you want to redefine the word 'continent', that is your personal business, but don't expect the rest of us to agree with something so patently ridiculous. I have tried to keep a level head, when I disagree with Rounders or Flatters, but I do NOT take kindly to having my intelligence insulted. Please endeavour to avoid doing so in future.

Meet Excelsior John, the local troll. If you still want to continue this discussion there is a thread in Science and alternative science.

Look pheonix again all because I have difrent views than you does not make me a troll. I have alredey shows you guys I am a serious Zeteticist FE

REPhoenix, greeting! I have encountered many strange ideas in my life, over years of travelling and living in different states and countries. Different cultures view the world with unique perspectives, as, for example, Latin Americans being taught that America is one continent rather than two. I have encountered many different ideas in my day. FET actually has some things going for it, in my opinion. I'm even willing to consider that it might be true. But this idea that America is not a continent, well, that just takes the taco in terms of being complely insane. He actually expects us to take that sitting down? Really?  I can recommend him some good psychiatrists if he tells me where he lives.

Im not insane stop being so close minded. I saw the evidence and I acepted it. And its not like I actuley expected you guys to acept it right away I knew I would be labeled an idiot but I just wanted to make people aware. Afterall this is FET. This is a home for ideologicel outsiders specificeley flat earthers. I dont need a psychiatrist i simpeley have difrent views

Quote from: Yaakov ben Avraham on September 29, 2013, 07:47:33 AM

REPhoenix, greeting! I have encountered many strange ideas in my life, over years of travelling and living in different states and countries. Different cultures view the world with unique perspectives, as, for example, Latin Americans being taught that America is one continent rather than two. I have encountered many different ideas in my day. FET actually has some things going for it, in my opinion. I'm even willing to consider that it might be true. But this idea that America is not a continent, well, that just takes the taco in terms of being complely insane. He actually expects us to take that sitting down? Really?  I can recommend him some good psychiatrists if he tells me where he lives.

Yep. That's EJ. Don't take what he says to seriously though, there is a 90% chance that he is just messing with everyone.

Im completeley serious but dont say that cuz I have difrent views

For his own sake, I hope you're right! If he actually believes some of what he says, then he is truly messed up. I mean, really? America and island off Asia? What other absurd ideas must I be prepared for? God help us!

*facepalm* Im not messed up I just have difrent views deal with it. Im not forcing it upon you. And its not an island its an archipelago

Quote from: Yaakov ben Avraham on September 29, 2013, 07:59:08 AM

For his own sake, I hope you're right! If he actually believes some of what he says, then he is truly messed up. I mean, really? America and island off Asia? What other absurd ideas must I be prepared for? God help us!

He also seems to believe that 9/11 didn't happen or even worse, that WTC had never existed.

Yes I beleive the WTCs never existed but those are my own views

Well, I believe that 9/11 happened, but not in the way the government told us. I think the government knew about it, and planned it. But to deny that it ever happened is just idiotic. And saying the towers never existed is simply the height of stupid.

That is extremeley ignorent of you to call it the height of stupit. I have difrent views live with it

It's not the fact that your views are different, it's the fact that they are so clearly and extremely stupid (with a d) along with the fact that you can't even spell words that are literally in the post you quoted. That's why I think you are a troll.

It's not the fact that your views are different, it's the fact that they are so clearly and extremely stupid (with a d) along with the fact that you can't even spell words that are literally in the post you quoted. That's why I think you are a troll.

How am I stupit? Please tell me how im stupit I have inteligentley presented you with evidence that you refuse to acept. And I spell fine and im not a flippin troll. And what was that little "with a d" comment about what do you mean?

Quote from: REphoenix on September 29, 2013, 05:08:51 PM

It's not the fact that your views are different, it's the fact that they are so clearly and extremely stupid (with a d) along with the fact that you can't even spell words that are literally in the post you quoted. That's why I think you are a troll.

How am I stupit? Please tell me how im stupit I have inteligentley presented you with evidence that you refuse to acept.

Sorry if it's hard for most of us to believe that an iconic part of NYC's skyline never existed.

And what was that little "with a d" comment about what do you mean?

Because it's spelled s-t-u-p-i-d, not s-t-u-p-i-t.  A genius should know this.

Quote from: REphoenix on September 29, 2013, 05:08:51 PM

It's not the fact that your views are different, it's the fact that they are so clearly and extremely stupid (with a d) along with the fact that you can't even spell words that are literally in the post you quoted. That's why I think you are a troll.

How am I stupit? Please tell me how im stupit I have inteligentley presented you with evidence that you refuse to acept. And I spell fine and im not a flippin troll. And what was that little "with a d" comment about (comma) what do you mean?

1. Stupid
2. See above.
3. Intelligently (no e)
4. Accept
5. I'm (capital I + ')
6. Flipping
But yeah... you spell great.

Quote from: Googleotomy on September 05, 2013, 02:59:49 PM

In another effort to lighten up this thread I think The Flat Earth Society has admitted they are not as adept or have the manpower and skills as The National Geographic Society or Rand-Mc Nally  in making maps.

Not to mention that we still need to develop a way of mapping that does not rely on GPS or sextants.

Weather balloons to take pictures of the coastline.  Thousands of possibilities when it comes to drawing it - AutoCAD, SketchUp, openstreetmap.org, mapbox. 

Your resources are INFINITE practically. And you don't have to rely on pencil and paper. You can draw full-scale!

Quote from: Excelsior John on September 29, 2013, 05:14:04 PM

Quote from: REphoenix on September 29, 2013, 05:08:51 PM

It's not the fact that your views are different, it's the fact that they are so clearly and extremely stupid (with a d) along with the fact that you can't even spell words that are literally in the post you quoted. That's why I think you are a troll.

How am I stupit? Please tell me how im stupit I have inteligentley presented you with evidence that you refuse to acept.

Sorry if it's hard for most of us to believe that an iconic part of NYC's skyline never existed.

Yes I know just give it some time then acept the evidence

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And what was that little "with a d" comment about what do you mean?

Because it's spelled s-t-u-p-i-d, not s-t-u-p-i-t.  A genius should know this.

I knew that

Quote from: Excelsior John on September 29, 2013, 05:14:04 PM

Quote from: REphoenix on September 29, 2013, 05:08:51 PM

It's not the fact that your views are different, it's the fact that they are so clearly and extremely stupid (with a d) along with the fact that you can't even spell words that are literally in the post you quoted. That's why I think you are a troll.

How am I stupit? Please tell me how im stupit I have inteligentley presented you with evidence that you refuse to acept. And I spell fine and im not a flippin troll. And what was that little "with a d" comment about (comma) what do you mean?

1. Stupid
2. See above.
3. Intelligently (no e)
4. Accept
5. I'm (capital I + ')
6. Flipping
But yeah... you spell great.

So what a had a couple spelling mistakes big dealio

Ok, I thought that denying continents took the taco for insane. But he even surpasses that! The towers never existed?! Dude, that takes 2 tacos, but not for insanity. Rather, for willful stupidity. I am as zetetic as anybody else, but the fact that I personally know people that have seen and been inside the towers (when they existed) makes it clear that that line of conversation isn't worth pursuing. I am willing to consider scientific arguments proposing that the Earth is flat. I am NOT willing to redefine words like 'continent' and 'island'. I am also not inclined to insult the memory of over 3000 people who died to entertain the thought that 2 of the largest buildings in the world never existed! I'm sorry, Excelsior, but that is either blatant stupidity or you are smoking some good s--t! And, yes, I do consider myself zetetic. In all of this, that's the one thing you've said about and to me that is correct. Thank you. As far as 9/11 happening, yes, it did. I believe it was an inside job, and I've 

got good reason for that view. But denying it altogether is obscene. And, I don't mean to be harsh, but Dude, use the spell-check on the FES website before submitting your posts, ok? You will come across sounding more intelligent. Not trying to be nasty, just offering a bit of constructive criticism. I know orthography isn't everybody's strength.

Ok, I thought that denying continents took the taco for insane. But he even surpasses that! The towers never existed?! Dude, that takes 2 tacos, but not for insanity. Rather, for willful stupidity. I am as zetetic as anybody else, but the fact that I personally know people that have seen and been inside the towers (when they existed) makes it clear that that line of conversation isn't worth pursuing. I am willing to consider scientific arguments proposing that the Earth is flat. I am NOT willing to redefine words like 'continent' and 'island'. I am also not inclined to insult the memory of over 3000 people who died to entertain the thought that 2 of the largest buildings in the world never existed! I'm sorry, Excelsior, but that is either blatant stupidity or you are smoking some good s--t! And, yes, I do consider myself zetetic. In all of this, that's the one thing you've said about and to me that is correct. Thank you. As far as 9/11 happening, yes, it did. I believe it was an inside job, and I've

Listen bro: I have given much evidence and I have even more in my rivers thread so dont be so close minded and call me stupit. And the towers were simpeley an ilusion and im not redefining continent im just fixing the definition. And second of all no people died in 9/11 they were just actors it was an elaborete hoax to start a war. It is not blantantley stupit its my beleif learn to acept that other people have difrent beleifs. Beleif in FET has caused me to be more zetetic and you cant stop it. And im not smoking I dont waste my time on drugs

got good reason for that view. But denying it altogether is obscene. And, I don't mean to be harsh, but Dude, use the spell-check on the FES website before submitting your posts, ok? You will come across sounding more intelligent. Not trying to be nasty, just offering a bit of constructive criticism. I know orthography isn't everybody's strength.

Its not obsene its my opinion. What spell checker?

If you are using a regular computer, the website has an embedded spell-check program that underlines all misspelled words in red. If you are on a regular cell-phone, the mobile version of the site does not have that feature. I'm not sure about smartphones or other devices. As for continents and 9/11, I suggest a change in topic. No one in their right mind will agree with you. Lets just stick to FET. Fair enough?

If you are using a regular computer, the website has an embedded spell-check program that underlines all misspelled words in red. If you are on a regular cell-phone, the mobile version of the site does not have that feature. I'm not sure about smartphones or other devices. As for continents and 9/11, I suggest a change in topic. No one in their right mind will agree with you. Lets just stick to FET. Fair enough?

Yes I would like to stick to FET rather than let my other thoerys get in the way of it. People keep on bringing them up but I would rather us bring continents up in my rivers thread in alt science. But yes I would rather us debate in the apropiate fora