Why is there a squirrel on Mars?

However, the uncovered conspiracies have a sense of realty to them in that they involve a very limited number of people and have a very specific purpose to them.

Really?  Ever hear of J Edgar Hoover?

Couldn't resist. lol.



- Lion
- The Mummy
- Leg
- Bear
- Duckling
- Monkey
- Crocodile
- Lion
- Hyena
- Star Wars Clone helmet
- Mole
- Duck
- Face (wow)
- Fox
- Squirrel
- Cairn

The problem with that type of argument is that only the rodent is a photo-realistic animal.

The problem with that type of argument is that only the rodent is a photo-realistic animal.

The turtle and the cow's head in the photo I posted look 'photo-realistic.'  Did you show them to your 10 friends as well?

The problem with that type of argument is that only the rodent is a photo-realistic animal.

The problem with your type of argument, Mr Bishop, is that it's nonsense.
I see that months after I was last here, you're still no more intelligent than before.

http://www.bubblews.com/news/648432-rat-lizard-droppings-found-on-mars-photo

That is photo realistic poop!

Quote from: John Davis on June 12, 2013, 10:26:05 AM

http://www.bubblews.com/news/648432-rat-lizard-droppings-found-on-mars-photo

That is photo realistic poop!

Is a "rat lizard" some kind of Earth animal I've never heard of? Or is it native to Mars?

Quote from: Rama Set on June 12, 2013, 11:02:32 AM

Quote from: John Davis on June 12, 2013, 10:26:05 AM

http://www.bubblews.com/news/648432-rat-lizard-droppings-found-on-mars-photo

That is photo realistic poop!

Is a "rat lizard" some kind of Earth animal I've never heard of? Or is it native to Mars?

I was really thinking it was satire... but then I looked at other posts on the site... and then I just didn't care.

Quote from: Shmeggley on June 12, 2013, 03:52:53 PM

Quote from: Rama Set on June 12, 2013, 11:02:32 AM

Quote from: John Davis on June 12, 2013, 10:26:05 AM

http://www.bubblews.com/news/648432-rat-lizard-droppings-found-on-mars-photo

That is photo realistic poop!

Is a "rat lizard" some kind of Earth animal I've never heard of? Or is it native to Mars?

Well if cat-lizards exist, I don't see why rat-lizards wouldn't...

This kind of post isn't tolerated here.  Please familiarize yourself with the rules.

http://www.bubblews.com/news/648432-rat-lizard-droppings-found-on-mars-photo

I think it's pretty conclusive that the pictures are being taken somewhere other than Mars.

Quote from: John Davis on June 12, 2013, 10:26:05 AM

http://www.bubblews.com/news/648432-rat-lizard-droppings-found-on-mars-photo

I think it's pretty conclusive that the pictures are being taken somewhere other than Mars.

I think these pictures make it very fast from conclusive.   They may present the possibility of them being taken elsewhere,  but they can still be easily explained as rock formations.

Between these and the birds, I'd say it's pretty conclusive as far as I'm concerned.

Between these and the birds, I'd say it's pretty conclusive as far as I'm concerned.

I hope you are not a judge then, because this is about as conclusive as the famous Sasquatch photo.

To be honest, this is what I see:



I accidentally drew over the "eye". I think the "eye" is just a small rock or shadow from a small rock sitting behind the rocks I have outlined.

You're right, a reclining rodent would never appear like that... 




And here are the birds:



Nevermind the dozens of other out of place artifacts in "Mars" photos...

If this is what you call conclusive evidence, it's really not surprising you think the Earth is a flat disc.

If those are definitely birds and squirrels, then the Moon is definitely a man's face.

You're right, a reclining rodent would never appear like that... 

Notice the arms [of the beaver in the picture] are coming from the body and resting on the rock. The 'squirrels' arm has no separation from the jaw.

Quote from: Ski on June 13, 2013, 01:28:16 PM

Between these and the birds, I'd say it's pretty conclusive as far as I'm concerned.

What birds would those be? And what makes this conclusive? The "squirrel" has already been debunked in *this* thread. There is no mammal that I'm aware of that looks like that... the fact that it has "arms" growing out of it's head is a fairly strong give away that this is nothing more than pareidolia.

looks more like a fossilized turd than anything else. why has everyone skipped over this outlines image? it clearly shows it is nothing but a rock regardless if you think this is on mars or not.

Well, I'm willing to give a little and call this evidence hopelessly inconclusive.  I find it utterly amazing that so many people see a rock where there is obviously a rodent.  And it's just difficult to argue with their retort that they don't understand why we see a rodent where there is "obviously" (to them) a rock.  Maybe in this instance it's simply impossible to set aside one's prejudices regarding the basis of the evidence itself.

I'm not sure that either side has any chance at winning this one. 

Well, I'm willing to give a little and call this evidence hopelessly inconclusive.  I find it utterly amazing that so many people see a rock where there is obviously a rodent.  And it's just difficult to argue with their retort that they don't understand why we see a rodent where there is "obviously" (to them) a rock.  Maybe in this instance it's simply impossible to set aside one's prejudices regarding the basis of the evidence itself.

I'm not sure that either side has any chance at winning this one.

I feel our side has said what we need to say. I wouldn't say it was obviously a rock. I was quite surprised at this find. I have seen other pictures of inanimate objects that resemble other things but they were my own photos and I do not remember in the slightest which photos they would be. [[Actually photo-textural resemblances too, like Tom's point]]

I made my argument for the rock after looking at it from a biological perspective. And after tracing what my eye wanted to see and then tracing what really was distinguishing features and colors of one item to the others, it made it clear to me that it was a rock.

I am curious though about a biological discussion from your side.  Do you see an appendage coming from in front of the neck?

Does the rump look plateau ish to you?

I think this discussion can only go further if your side partakes in dissecting the details instead of just saying it's obviously a critter.

Wow essay, sorry.\\

{Made a few edits, sorry}

Quote from: RyanTG on May 30, 2013, 04:08:44 PM

Oh NASA, able to deceive the whole planet about the existence of satellites, space telescopes and the shape of the earth.

Yet they forget to remove the dead squirrels from their sets!

They will never learn will they...

REers: "If there was such a huge conspiracy they'd never be able to hide all the evidence!"

FEers: "Um, they don't.  Look here..." (presents a mountain of evidence)

REers: "Oh, so they're able to go to such great lengths to deceive the entire Earth, but they can't even hide (take your pick)!"

Seriously, do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?  No wonder NASA has been so successful for so long.

Add to that the growing sentiment that:  "It's not a squirrel because the picture is from Mars and Mars doesn't have any squirrels"...

there are enough people out there trying to debunk NASA. im struggling to find any of the mars pictures mating the earths landscape. there are enough panoramic images of mountain ranges out there. some savvy tinfoiler would of matched the landscapes by now, wouldnt they?
im reading reports that these shots are actually on mars but the rat/lizard is an experiment too. thats the issue with conspiracies, nobody gets the facts right.

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on May 30, 2013, 08:08:56 PM

Quote from: RyanTG on May 30, 2013, 04:08:44 PM

Oh NASA, able to deceive the whole planet about the existence of satellites, space telescopes and the shape of the earth.

Yet they forget to remove the dead squirrels from their sets!

They will never learn will they...

REers: "If there was such a huge conspiracy they'd never be able to hide all the evidence!"

FEers: "Um, they don't.  Look here..." (presents a mountain of evidence)

REers: "Oh, so they're able to go to such great lengths to deceive the entire Earth, but they can't even hide (take your pick)!"

Seriously, do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?  No wonder NASA has been so successful for so long.

Add to that the growing sentiment that:  "It's not a squirrel because the picture is from Mars and Mars doesn't have any squirrels"...

REers: Look I traced the outline showing where the rock is different than the surrounding background rocks.

FEers: It's obviously a rodent.

REers: Look at the appendage, it appears to have no paw, no beginning or end.

FEers: I looked and you're obviously wrong.

REers: You can see where the bridge of the nose would be is actually the background judging by the colors.

FEers: It's a obviously a rodent.


I repeat: I am curious about a biological discussion from your side.

I kind of miss this thread. Did you know that the Curiosity rover just tweeted about a dinosaur found on Mars? Eat your heart out squirrel!

A T-rex at that!

I think this is going to be an endless discussion. The flat earth believers are going to say it is a squirrel/rodent. The round earth defenders are saying it is a rock.

The flat earth believer point of view:

NASA is lying about its achievements and fakes landings, by taking photos on Earth and present them as photos from Mars.
The photo is evidence of a squirrel, which confirms the assumption NASA is lying.

To me this is circular thinking, because you already have a biased view when looking at this photo. NASA is lying > We spot a squirrel > therefore NASA lying is confirmed

To me there is no reason to assume they are lying in the first place. For numerous reasons. First off is because everything they do is monitored by thousands of people. All sorts of things are publicly available, including live footage from spacewalks. Second, we can check the ISS is in orbit from Earth. We make use of technology which uses satellites, think of GPS. A conspiracy on the level the flat earth believers think this should be, is impossible as it involves thousands, if not millions of people.
We already know the NSA, who workes with only a "handful" of people and in top secrecy, also had a leak, because of one individual. Even that top secret organization could not prevent information from spreading.

Perhaps there are people out there who think even that is a set-up to trick us into thinking in a particular way. To those, perhaps your whole life is a lie. Maybe you're just an imagination in someone else's mind.

To me the object on the photo does not look like a squirrel. It would be a very strange squirrel if you ask me.
And I am not even looking for it to be something else than a squirrel. If it would be a squirrel, I would accept is to be true.

However, we know from tens of other photos things not always appear what they really are. It is in our nature to quickly look for recognizable things. It is our instict to look for danger. Better safe then sorry. If it would have been a predator, you better get the hell out of a there. For all you know, you may be next on the menu. Run and survive. If it is a rock, you do not have to run for it. However, if it looks like a predator but it is a rock....well you ran for nothing, but at least you were safe. If it looks like a rock, but it is a predator...well you walk straight into danger.

That is why you recognize patterns in pretty much anything. Better safe then sorry.


 

Look, its like this. This whole thing could go either way. So lets dead this thread. but the fact that it was stale-mated should be noted.

I think this is going to be an endless discussion. The flat earth believers are going to say it is a squirrel/rodent. The round earth defenders are saying it is a rock.

The flat earth believer point of view:

NASA is lying about its achievements and fakes landings, by taking photos on Earth and present them as photos from Mars.
The photo is evidence of a squirrel, which confirms the assumption NASA is lying.

To me this is circular thinking, because you already have a biased view when looking at this photo. NASA is lying > We spot a squirrel > therefore NASA lying is confirmed

To me there is no reason to assume they are lying in the first place. For numerous reasons. First off is because everything they do is monitored by thousands of people. All sorts of things are publicly available, including live footage from spacewalks. Second, we can check the ISS is in orbit from Earth. We make use of technology which uses satellites, think of GPS. A conspiracy on the level the flat earth believers think this should be, is impossible as it involves thousands, if not millions of people.
We already know the NSA, who workes with only a "handful" of people and in top secrecy, also had a leak, because of one individual. Even that top secret organization could not prevent information from spreading.

Perhaps there are people out there who think even that is a set-up to trick us into thinking in a particular way. To those, perhaps your whole life is a lie. Maybe you're just an imagination in someone else's mind.

To me the object on the photo does not look like a squirrel. It would be a very strange squirrel if you ask me.
And I am not even looking for it to be something else than a squirrel. If it would be a squirrel, I would accept is to be true.

However, we know from tens of other photos things not always appear what they really are. It is in our nature to quickly look for recognizable things. It is our instict to look for danger. Better safe then sorry. If it would have been a predator, you better get the hell out of a there. For all you know, you may be next on the menu. Run and survive. If it is a rock, you do not have to run for it. However, if it looks like a predator but it is a rock....well you ran for nothing, but at least you were safe. If it looks like a rock, but it is a predator...well you walk straight into danger.

That is why you recognize patterns in pretty much anything. Better safe then sorry.

Here's the thing about the FES. This whole website and forum is not about any sort of controversy about the Earth's shape. There is no controversy. This place is about these PEOPLE who claim the Earth is flat. They are the subject that needs to be examined, not the Earth.

Here's the thing about the FES. This whole website and forum is not about any sort of controversy about the Earth's shape. There is no controversy. This place is about these PEOPLE who claim the Earth is flat. They are the subject that needs to be examined, not the Earth.

Keep your low-content posts out of the upper fora.  Consider this a warning.

Quote from: rottingroom on July 21, 2013, 04:06:25 AM

Here's the thing about the FES. This whole website and forum is not about any sort of controversy about the Earth's shape. There is no controversy. This place is about these PEOPLE who claim the Earth is flat. They are the subject that needs to be examined, not the Earth.

Keep your low-content posts out of the upper fora.  Consider this a warning.

Erm, whatever. You know I'm right. Ban me if you want.