iPhone 5

Quote from: Thork on October 05, 2012, 02:17:48 PM

I used apple many years ago when they were persisting with their own processors (G4 or G5, I forget). I hated everything about it. The prices seemed similar so I never gave them another chance. Why would I? M$ has always been there for me like a big snuggly blanket.

Anyway, I'm looking at this a bit lop-sided. Some guy loaned me a few thousand dollars worth of all their latest stuff. Its hard not to like it when you get a free computer, twin monitors, an iPhone, and iPad an apple laptop and a bunch of other things I haven't figured out yet. Basically I feel like I'm having a dirty weekend away from the wife. I love the wife very dearly and would never leave her ... but I am enjoying a good rummage through Apple's knickers.

It's still cheating on your wife.

Apparently it's not cheating if you don't pay for it.

Still can't get it to compile

I don't think I know enough to be able to help you yet.

Wild stab in the dark. Are you using the same version of xcode as they did? For example where before you had
NSAutoreleasePool * pool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc]init];

YOUR CODE

[pool drain];
Now you just have @autoreleasepool

YOUR CODE
And if you try to use the old way it will freak out at you. I dunno if this helps. I've been learning for 1 day.

Thork needs to learn a real language, like C.

Objective C is a superset of the 'real language' C.

I do all my coding in binary.

I'm learning Python at the moment.  I like it because it's not Java.  It is also light weight and has lots of library support for GUI stuff.  Although it is interpreted like Java, it can be compiled into a  .exe.

I don't think I know enough to be able to help you yet.

Wild stab in the dark. Are you using the same version of xcode as they did? For example where before you had

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NSAutoreleasePool * pool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc]init];

YOUR CODE

[pool drain];
Now you just have

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@autoreleasepool

YOUR CODE
And if you try to use the old way it will freak out at you. I dunno if this helps. I've been learning for 1 day.

Nah I got some annoying errors because it misses some includes I think.

Fixed 3/4th of the errors, only got this left

Breeder.cpp: In member function ‘void Breeder::ProcessNeighbourhood(const std::vector<Agent**, std::allocator<Agent**> >&)’:
Breeder.cpp:74: error: ‘AgentType’ is not a class or namespace
CandidateSolution.cpp:2:18: error: random: No such file or directory
Cupid.cpp: In member function ‘Agent** Cupid::GetEmptyCell()’:
Cupid.cpp:215: error: no matching function for call to ‘std::vector<Agent**, std::allocator<Agent**> >::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<Agent** const*, std::vector<Agent**, std::allocator<Agent**> > >&)’
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:109: note: candidates are: typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Agent**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Agent**>]
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:121: note:                 typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >, __gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Agent**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Agent**>]
Reaper.cpp: In member function ‘void Reaper::SelectToList(std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, bool (*)(T**, T**), double) [with T = CandidateSolution]’:
Reaper.cpp:60:   instantiated from here
Reaper.cpp:50: error: no matching function for call to ‘std::vector<CandidateSolution**, std::allocator<CandidateSolution**> >::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<CandidateSolution** const*, std::vector<CandidateSolution**, std::allocator<CandidateSolution**> > >&)’
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:109: note: candidates are: typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = CandidateSolution**, _Alloc = std::allocator<CandidateSolution**>]
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:121: note:                 typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >, __gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = CandidateSolution**, _Alloc = std::allocator<CandidateSolution**>]
Reaper.cpp: In member function ‘void Reaper::SelectToList(std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, bool (*)(T**, T**), double) [with T = Cupid]’:
Reaper.cpp:61:   instantiated from here
Reaper.cpp:50: error: no matching function for call to ‘std::vector<Cupid**, std::allocator<Cupid**> >::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<Cupid** const*, std::vector<Cupid**, std::allocator<Cupid**> > >&)’
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:109: note: candidates are: typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Cupid**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Cupid**>]
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:121: note:                 typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >, __gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Cupid**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Cupid**>]
Reaper.cpp: In member function ‘void Reaper::SelectToList(std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, bool (*)(T**, T**), double) [with T = Breeder]’:
Reaper.cpp:62:   instantiated from here
Reaper.cpp:50: error: no matching function for call to ‘std::vector<Breeder**, std::allocator<Breeder**> >::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<Breeder** const*, std::vector<Breeder**, std::allocator<Breeder**> > >&)’
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:109: note: candidates are: typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Breeder**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Breeder**>]
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:121: note:                 typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >, __gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Breeder**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Breeder**>]
Reaper.cpp: In member function ‘void Reaper::SelectToList(std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, bool (*)(T**, T**), double) [with T = Reaper]’:
Reaper.cpp:63:   instantiated from here
Reaper.cpp:50: error: no matching function for call to ‘std::vector<Reaper**, std::allocator<Reaper**> >::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<Reaper** const*, std::vector<Reaper**, std::allocator<Reaper**> > >&)’
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:109: note: candidates are: typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Reaper**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Reaper**>]
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:121: note:                 typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >, __gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Reaper**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Reaper**>]


I'm learning Python at the moment.  I like it because it's not Java.  It is also light weight and has lots of library support for GUI stuff.  Although it is interpreted like Java, it can be compiled into a  .exe.

Don't forget about that sweet, sweet syntax.

Fixed 3/4th of the errors, only got this left

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Breeder.cpp: In member function ‘void Breeder::ProcessNeighbourhood(const std::vector<Agent**, std::allocator<Agent**> >&)’:
Breeder.cpp:74: error: ‘AgentType’ is not a class or namespace
CandidateSolution.cpp:2:18: error: random: No such file or directory
Cupid.cpp: In member function ‘Agent** Cupid::GetEmptyCell()’:
Cupid.cpp:215: error: no matching function for call to ‘std::vector<Agent**, std::allocator<Agent**> >::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<Agent** const*, std::vector<Agent**, std::allocator<Agent**> > >&)’
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:109: note: candidates are: typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Agent**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Agent**>]
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:121: note:                 typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >, __gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Agent**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Agent**>]
Reaper.cpp: In member function ‘void Reaper::SelectToList(std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, bool (*)(T**, T**), double) [with T = CandidateSolution]’:
Reaper.cpp:60:   instantiated from here
Reaper.cpp:50: error: no matching function for call to ‘std::vector<CandidateSolution**, std::allocator<CandidateSolution**> >::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<CandidateSolution** const*, std::vector<CandidateSolution**, std::allocator<CandidateSolution**> > >&)’
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:109: note: candidates are: typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = CandidateSolution**, _Alloc = std::allocator<CandidateSolution**>]
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:121: note:                 typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >, __gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = CandidateSolution**, _Alloc = std::allocator<CandidateSolution**>]
Reaper.cpp: In member function ‘void Reaper::SelectToList(std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, bool (*)(T**, T**), double) [with T = Cupid]’:
Reaper.cpp:61:   instantiated from here
Reaper.cpp:50: error: no matching function for call to ‘std::vector<Cupid**, std::allocator<Cupid**> >::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<Cupid** const*, std::vector<Cupid**, std::allocator<Cupid**> > >&)’
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:109: note: candidates are: typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Cupid**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Cupid**>]
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:121: note:                 typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >, __gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Cupid**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Cupid**>]
Reaper.cpp: In member function ‘void Reaper::SelectToList(std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, bool (*)(T**, T**), double) [with T = Breeder]’:
Reaper.cpp:62:   instantiated from here
Reaper.cpp:50: error: no matching function for call to ‘std::vector<Breeder**, std::allocator<Breeder**> >::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<Breeder** const*, std::vector<Breeder**, std::allocator<Breeder**> > >&)’
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:109: note: candidates are: typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Breeder**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Breeder**>]
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:121: note:                 typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >, __gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Breeder**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Breeder**>]
Reaper.cpp: In member function ‘void Reaper::SelectToList(std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, std::vector<T**, std::allocator<T**> >&, bool (*)(T**, T**), double) [with T = Reaper]’:
Reaper.cpp:63:   instantiated from here
Reaper.cpp:50: error: no matching function for call to ‘std::vector<Reaper**, std::allocator<Reaper**> >::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<Reaper** const*, std::vector<Reaper**, std::allocator<Reaper**> > >&)’
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:109: note: candidates are: typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Reaper**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Reaper**>]
/usr/include/c++/4.2.1/bits/vector.tcc:121: note:                 typename std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::erase(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >, __gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<typename std::_Vector_base<_Tp, _Alloc>::_Tp_alloc_type::pointer, std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc> >) [with _Tp = Reaper**, _Alloc = std::allocator<Reaper**>]


OK, apologies for not keeping up here, but am I right in thinking that Beorn is doing Thork's work for him?  This is commendable (to put it politely).

OK, apologies for not keeping up here, but am I right in thinking that Beorn is doing Thork's work for him?  This is commendable (to put it politely).

No, these are Beorn's problems. I only just started learning.

Thork, wright a report for each of the items that you have received for us once you have mastered the devices.

Thork, wright a report for each of the items that you have received for us once you have mastered the devices.

What, like an inventory or a review? Also, you made a terrible job of spelling 'write'.

Quote from: jroa on October 06, 2012, 11:33:52 AM

Thork, wright a report for each of the items that you have received for us once you have mastered the devices.

What, like and inventory or a review? Also, you made a terrible job of spelling 'write'.

"like and inventory". You're move.

Thank you for your pedantry. I have made the necessary adjustment to my post.

Quote from: Moon squirter on October 06, 2012, 08:47:11 AM

I'm learning Python at the moment.  I like it because it's not Java.  It is also light weight and has lots of library support for GUI stuff.  Although it is interpreted like Java, it can be compiled into a  .exe.

Don't forget about that sweet, sweet syntax.

Python is bad and you should feel bad.

If you want a good interpreted language, you want Ruby.

Quote from: Particle Person on October 06, 2012, 10:30:54 AM

Quote from: Moon squirter on October 06, 2012, 08:47:11 AM

I'm learning Python at the moment.  I like it because it's not Java.  It is also light weight and has lots of library support for GUI stuff.  Although it is interpreted like Java, it can be compiled into a  .exe.

Don't forget about that sweet, sweet syntax.

Python is bad and you should feel bad.

If you want a good interpreted language, you want Ruby.

hipster

Quote from: Particle Person on October 06, 2012, 10:30:54 AM

Quote from: Moon squirter on October 06, 2012, 08:47:11 AM

I'm learning Python at the moment.  I like it because it's not Java.  It is also light weight and has lots of library support for GUI stuff.  Although it is interpreted like Java, it can be compiled into a  .exe.

Don't forget about that sweet, sweet syntax.

Python is bad and you should feel bad.

If you want a good interpreted language, you want Ruby.

I like Ruby too. My experience with it so far is very fundamental, but it seems similar to Python, superficially at least.

I like Ruby too. My experience with it so far is very fundamental, but it seems similar to Python.

It's like Python if you were to take away all the bad things about Python and replace them with good things.

What's so bad about python?

What's so bad about python?

Many little things, which add up to coding in Python feeling like an extended facepalm.

Quote from: Lorddave on October 06, 2012, 08:21:43 PM

What's so bad about python?

Many little things, which add up to coding in Python feeling like an extended facepalm.

Ok, I'd partially agree except to say its more like receiving a massage where you are offered a happy ending at no extra charge.

So, 4 miserable days later an I've got the basics of Objective C down. Now to spend 3 days learning about the iPhone SDK.

By the time you have put a week into learning and spent $2000 on equipment, you have to be fairly sure you want to make iPhone apps.

So, 4 miserable days later an I've got the basics of Objective C down. Now to spend 3 days learning about the iPhone SDK.

By the time you have put a week into learning and spent $2000 on equipment, you have to be fairly sure you want to make iPhone apps.

By installing 3rd party unregistered apps, you've broken the Apple terms of use, and voided your warranty. I hope you're happy.

Its not an iPhone. Its a program called iOS simulator which runs on the Mac and pretends to be an iPhone. It behaves the same allowing you to load an app and use it like you would one the phone.

So, 4 miserable days later an I've got the basics of Objective C down. Now to spend 3 days learning about the iPhone SDK.

By the time you have put a week into learning and spent $2000 on equipment, you have to be fairly sure you want to make iPhone apps.

Wait you bought all that stuff? I thought the guy gave it to you.

Also, finally the program compiled 

No, the guy gave me all the stuff, but that doesn't happen to most people. Most people have to buy all the stuff ... which seems like a pretty big outlay at the start.

I'm glad it compiled for you.

I just downloaded and started playing my first ever iPhone game. It was called Bad Piggies. Its one of the best sellers right now.

Long story short, after just 15 mins I was bored rigid. I just didn't care if the piggy made it of not. Having had a look to see what else is there, it seems most the games are crap.

Most games are crap. There are a few good ones, however it is mainly the other 'apps' that I find good to use.