So, what's on the bottom?

Despite the very deep words from the classic song, "Red Solo Cup", it is impossible to have a "front of the back"...  Therefore, what is on the "back" of your "Flat" earth?

We do not know, as we can not go there.

Why not, is there something preventing me from digging a really deep hole and falling out the other end?

Why not, is there something preventing me from digging a really deep hole and falling out the other end?

Bedrock

Quote from: RoundHard on September 06, 2012, 10:48:26 AM

Why not, is there something preventing me from digging a really deep hole and falling out the other end?

Bedrock

Umm, actually that would be minecraft... Where i live, the bedrock is 5 feet down....

Quote from: krukoslik on September 06, 2012, 11:57:09 AM

Quote from: RoundHard on September 06, 2012, 10:48:26 AM

Why not, is there something preventing me from digging a really deep hole and falling out the other end?

Bedrock

Umm, actually that would be minecraft... Where i live, the bedrock is 5 feet down....

And you can dig through bedrock?

Why not, is there something preventing me from digging a really deep hole and falling out the other end?

The UA forces would crush you against the bottom. This is, of course, assuming you magically dug through kilometers of rock and magma.

It's damn easy to dig through bedrock, and by the way, there would be not lava, because there would be no center to heat the rock, as it is simply a disc...

It's damn easy to dig through bedrock, and by the way, there would be not lava, because there would be no center to heat the rock, as it is simply a disc...

This is incorrect in multiple aspects. For one, in RET the Earth's core does not heat itself. The heat is leftover from the original formation of the planet (sounds quite silly, does it not?). Second, in FET there is indeed magma, the heat comes directly from the UA.

Despite the very deep words from the classic song, "Red Solo Cup", it is impossible to have a "front of the back"...  Therefore, what is on the "back" of your "Flat" earth?

Some believe it to be just rocks. Others believe the earth rests on the back of four elephants and a turtle.

Quote from: RoundHard on September 06, 2012, 10:48:26 AM

Why not, is there something preventing me from digging a really deep hole and falling out the other end?

The UA forces would crush you against the bottom. This is, of course, assuming you magically dug through kilometers of rock and magma.

No it wouldn't. If the world was magically flat, and UA magically existed you would not be crushed. Your acceleration would already be 9.8 m\s, which would be one G. Emerging on the magical underside of the earth would not crush you as the magical UA would act on you the same as it does on the entire earth. You would experience the same effect as you were on the magical topside of the earth, which is a 9.8 m\s acceleration in the negative direction to earth.

The reason you would be pushed back to the earth on the magical underside is that you would be closer to the magical source of UA. And any force decreases or declines in a square to or from the source. Two times closer, four time stronger. Two time further away, four times weaker.

Congratulations, your statement actually proves that the earth is not magically flat. If your magical UA did exist, then anything and anyone on the magical topside of the magical flat earth would also be crushed they would feel the same force pushing against them. And no the magical UA would not lessen the force against them since the flat earth wiki already states that the magical UA curves around the earth to push the magical 32 mile sun and moon upwards. And again, if the magical UA pushed against the sun and moon, it's magical force would be slightly less than 9.8 m\s. Thus allowing the magical flat earth to catch up to the magical 32 mile diameter sun and moon. Given the age of the earth, this would have happened billions of years ago.

Disproving the magical flat earth crap is so easy, that a child with mental impairments could do it easily. I wonder what that says about magical tom and his magical fantasies?

Quote from: RoundHard on September 09, 2012, 04:59:33 PM

It's damn easy to dig through bedrock, and by the way, there would be not lava, because there would be no center to heat the rock, as it is simply a disc...

This is incorrect in multiple aspects. For one, in RET the Earth's core does not heat itself. The heat is leftover from the original formation of the planet (sounds quite silly, does it not?). Second, in FET there is indeed magma, the heat comes directly from the UA.

I believe that the RE'ers say that the moon's gravity heats up the center of the earth. RE'ers use gravity to explain away all sorts of other unexplainable phenomia, why not the earths "core" heat as well?

And you're right, UA heating the bottom of the earth is a much more elegant solution that actually works. 

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on September 09, 2012, 05:19:04 PM

Quote from: RoundHard on September 09, 2012, 04:59:33 PM

It's damn easy to dig through bedrock, and by the way, there would be not lava, because there would be no center to heat the rock, as it is simply a disc...

This is incorrect in multiple aspects. For one, in RET the Earth's core does not heat itself. The heat is leftover from the original formation of the planet (sounds quite silly, does it not?). Second, in FET there is indeed magma, the heat comes directly from the UA.

I believe that the RE'ers say that the moon's gravity heats up the center of the earth. RE'ers use gravity to explain away all sorts of other unexplainable phenomia, why not the earths "core" heat as well?

And you're right, UA heating the bottom of the earth is a much more elegant solution that actually works.

And if the magical UA existed, it would also melt the magical ice wall as it slipped past the edge of the magical flat earth, and heat the air above the magical ice wall as well. Use zetetic observation for this, place a pan over a heat source, and feel the convection  and radiation effects of heat as it passes by the edges. Again, your magical UA is disproven.

And if the magical UA existed, it would also melt the magical ice wall as it slipped past the edge of the magical flat earth, and heat the air above the magical ice wall as well. Use zetetic observation for this, place a pan over a heat source, and feel the convection  and radiation effects of heat as it passes by the edges. Again, your magical UA is disproven.

RE science calls it Global Warming, despite the fact that CO2 has never been proven to cause greenhouse gas effects.

Quote from: theroundworld on September 09, 2012, 09:59:39 PM

And if the magical UA existed, it would also melt the magical ice wall as it slipped past the edge of the magical flat earth, and heat the air above the magical ice wall as well. Use zetetic observation for this, place a pan over a heat source, and feel the convection  and radiation effects of heat as it passes by the edges. Again, your magical UA is disproven.

RE science calls it Global Warming, despite the fact that CO2 has never been proven to cause greenhouse gas effects.

Global warming isn't mentioned in this at all, what is mentioned is UA heating the supposed bottom of the earth. The heating would occur from the bottom, and travel along the side since many say the earth is thinner at the edges (convection) and radiation as the thermal energy is pushed past the edges by the magical UA, which flat earth has already said happens since it supposedly comes back over the topside of the earth to keep the sun, moon, and stars in the same place above the earth. Read what I wrote again, I said the edges from the bottom, not the center of the top.

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on September 09, 2012, 10:27:49 PM

Quote from: theroundworld on September 09, 2012, 09:59:39 PM

And if the magical UA existed, it would also melt the magical ice wall as it slipped past the edge of the magical flat earth, and heat the air above the magical ice wall as well. Use zetetic observation for this, place a pan over a heat source, and feel the convection  and radiation effects of heat as it passes by the edges. Again, your magical UA is disproven.

RE science calls it Global Warming, despite the fact that CO2 has never been proven to cause greenhouse gas effects.

Global warming isn't mentioned in this at all, what is mentioned is UA heating the supposed bottom of the earth. The heating would occur from the bottom, and travel along the side since many say the earth is thinner at the edges (convection) and radiation as the thermal energy is pushed past the edges by the magical UA, which flat earth has already said happens since it supposedly comes back over the topside of the earth to keep the sun, moon, and stars in the same place above the earth. Read what I wrote again, I said the edges from the bottom, not the center of the top.

No, the heat travels directly through the disc via magma convection currents. Also, the Ice Wall is melting. If you haven't noticed, the seas are rising.

It's damn easy to dig through bedrock, and by the way, there would be not lava, because there would be no center to heat the rock, as it is simply a disc...

It's easy is it? Can you explain how one easily digs through bedrock? I have a hard time digging through fill, never mind solid rock.

Quote from: Pongo on September 09, 2012, 09:35:07 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on September 09, 2012, 05:19:04 PM

Quote from: RoundHard on September 09, 2012, 04:59:33 PM

It's damn easy to dig through bedrock, and by the way, there would be not lava, because there would be no center to heat the rock, as it is simply a disc...

This is incorrect in multiple aspects. For one, in RET the Earth's core does not heat itself. The heat is leftover from the original formation of the planet (sounds quite silly, does it not?). Second, in FET there is indeed magma, the heat comes directly from the UA.

I believe that the RE'ers say that the moon's gravity heats up the center of the earth. RE'ers use gravity to explain away all sorts of other unexplainable phenomia, why not the earths "core" heat as well?

And you're right, UA heating the bottom of the earth is a much more elegant solution that actually works.

And if the magical UA existed, it would also melt the magical ice wall as it slipped past the edge of the magical flat earth, and heat the air above the magical ice wall as well. Use zetetic observation for this, place a pan over a heat source, and feel the convection  and radiation effects of heat as it passes by the edges. Again, your magical UA is disproven.

This may, or may not be true. If we suppose, for one minute, that the earth is flat and there is a UA pushing up "underneath" it, then yes, it would create heat. Now, I've seen it stated many times that beyond the edge of the earth, there is empty space. You cannot have convection currents through empty space, as there is nothing for the heat to propagate through. I've never seen the edge stated as "thinner" though. This wouldn't make sense, as the earth would not be structurally sound in such a way that it could sustain shape under a constantly accelerating force.

By the way, it's 9.8m/s², which is a statement of acceleration, not 9.8m/s, which is a statement of velocity.

Despite the very deep words from the classic song, "Red Solo Cup", it is impossible to have a "front of the back"...  Therefore, what is on the "back" of your "Flat" earth?

I'd never heard of that song so I had to google it. I'd say a song that is only a few years old and only reached a peak position of 15 on the US billboard charts isn't really a classic. Also, it's country.

And Tom Bishop answered correctly. Personally I'm more inclined to think it is a giant turtle and 4 elephants but we'll probably never find out.

Quote from: RoundHard on September 09, 2012, 04:59:33 PM

It's damn easy to dig through bedrock, and by the way, there would be not lava, because there would be no center to heat the rock, as it is simply a disc...

It's easy is it? Can you explain how one easily digs through bedrock? I have a hard time digging through fill, never mind solid rock.

Quote from: theroundworld on September 09, 2012, 09:59:39 PM

Quote from: Pongo on September 09, 2012, 09:35:07 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on September 09, 2012, 05:19:04 PM

Quote from: RoundHard on September 09, 2012, 04:59:33 PM

It's damn easy to dig through bedrock, and by the way, there would be not lava, because there would be no center to heat the rock, as it is simply a disc...

This is incorrect in multiple aspects. For one, in RET the Earth's core does not heat itself. The heat is leftover from the original formation of the planet (sounds quite silly, does it not?). Second, in FET there is indeed magma, the heat comes directly from the UA.

I believe that the RE'ers say that the moon's gravity heats up the center of the earth. RE'ers use gravity to explain away all sorts of other unexplainable phenomia, why not the earths "core" heat as well?

And you're right, UA heating the bottom of the earth is a much more elegant solution that actually works.

And if the magical UA existed, it would also melt the magical ice wall as it slipped past the edge of the magical flat earth, and heat the air above the magical ice wall as well. Use zetetic observation for this, place a pan over a heat source, and feel the convection  and radiation effects of heat as it passes by the edges. Again, your magical UA is disproven.

This may, or may not be true. If we suppose, for one minute, that the earth is flat and there is a UA pushing up "underneath" it, then yes, it would create heat. Now, I've seen it stated many times that beyond the edge of the earth, there is empty space. You cannot have convection currents through empty space, as there is nothing for the heat to propagate through. I've never seen the edge stated as "thinner" though. This wouldn't make sense, as the earth would not be structurally sound in such a way that it could sustain shape under a constantly accelerating force.

By the way, it's 9.8m/s², which is a statement of acceleration, not 9.8m/s, which is a statement of velocity.

Talk about anal, I used what has been posted by the flat earthies in regards to the earth's shape. I also said that radiation would transfer thermal energy, and the convection would occur in the rock layer, even though I was not clear on that part. And yes you are correct it would be 9.8 m\s^2, I neglected to enter the ^2 part. Even so, the statements I made are true.

Quote from: ThinkingMan on September 10, 2012, 05:40:47 AM

Quote from: RoundHard on September 09, 2012, 04:59:33 PM

It's damn easy to dig through bedrock, and by the way, there would be not lava, because there would be no center to heat the rock, as it is simply a disc...

It's easy is it? Can you explain how one easily digs through bedrock? I have a hard time digging through fill, never mind solid rock.

Quote from: theroundworld on September 09, 2012, 09:59:39 PM

Quote from: Pongo on September 09, 2012, 09:35:07 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on September 09, 2012, 05:19:04 PM

Quote from: RoundHard on September 09, 2012, 04:59:33 PM

It's damn easy to dig through bedrock, and by the way, there would be not lava, because there would be no center to heat the rock, as it is simply a disc...

This is incorrect in multiple aspects. For one, in RET the Earth's core does not heat itself. The heat is leftover from the original formation of the planet (sounds quite silly, does it not?). Second, in FET there is indeed magma, the heat comes directly from the UA.

I believe that the RE'ers say that the moon's gravity heats up the center of the earth. RE'ers use gravity to explain away all sorts of other unexplainable phenomia, why not the earths "core" heat as well?

And you're right, UA heating the bottom of the earth is a much more elegant solution that actually works.

And if the magical UA existed, it would also melt the magical ice wall as it slipped past the edge of the magical flat earth, and heat the air above the magical ice wall as well. Use zetetic observation for this, place a pan over a heat source, and feel the convection  and radiation effects of heat as it passes by the edges. Again, your magical UA is disproven.

This may, or may not be true. If we suppose, for one minute, that the earth is flat and there is a UA pushing up "underneath" it, then yes, it would create heat. Now, I've seen it stated many times that beyond the edge of the earth, there is empty space. You cannot have convection currents through empty space, as there is nothing for the heat to propagate through. I've never seen the edge stated as "thinner" though. This wouldn't make sense, as the earth would not be structurally sound in such a way that it could sustain shape under a constantly accelerating force.

By the way, it's 9.8m/s², which is a statement of acceleration, not 9.8m/s, which is a statement of velocity.

Talk about anal, I used what has been posted by the flat earthies in regards to the earth's shape. I also said that radiation would transfer thermal energy, and the convection would occur in the rock layer, even though I was not clear on that part. And yes you are correct it would be 9.8 m\s^2, I neglected to enter the ^2 part. Even so, the statements I made are true.

Convection is part of fluid mechanics. Rocks are not fluid. Also, where is your radiation coming from? If you're going to debate, perhaps you should be a bit more anal. FEers will tear you apart for not having your facts straight. Honestly, being an REer, you cannot disprove their hypothesis/theory/religion (what ever you wish to call it). There are several reasons for this. The first and foremost is most of them are zetetic and rely on their own personal observations to make judgements about the world they live in. The second is they will simply shrug off any evidence/mathematics/science that you throw at them because, this is probably due to the first reason. The third is that you have probably never actually viewed the earth from a perspective where you can truly judge it's shape.