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Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future

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Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« on: February 03, 2012, 12:47:28 PM »
In a continued effort to spread the word of FET to the masses I have traveled to eight seperate middle schools in Arizona. The target: the science teachers.

In each middle school the process was more or less the same. I would profess my claims in a civilized manner during the teacher staff meetings. The discussions that followed usually lasted hours, as teachers were skeptic and mostly stood their ground. In the end I convinced eleven science teachers at three middle schools to teach a curriculum consisting of valid RET alternatives. (They would not elect to stop teaching RET completely, nor would I want them to). This enables children to a brighter vision of choice instead of indoctrination and suppression. I have been receiving a fair deal of positive feedback about my proposed curriculum and it is now a (attempted) proposal to the county board.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 02:42:08 PM »
Lies.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 06:34:33 PM »
Excellent tale, brother.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2012, 04:19:26 AM »
cool story bro
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2012, 04:21:41 AM »
One day intelligent design FET will be on the curriculum of every middle school in America!
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2012, 04:46:14 AM »
just make sure it stays in america too!
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2012, 09:24:01 AM »
its too late to reach kids by the time they reach middle school, the are all ready gang banging, smoking dope, stealing cars, pregnant, or making meth in thier basement.

I suggest you start younger. I was thinking we should start a Wii game that teaches how to Navigate using disc earth thoery, would be cool.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2012, 09:33:50 AM »
Quote from: iwanttobelieve on February 04, 2012, 09:24:01 AM
I was thinking we should start a Wii game that teaches how to Navigate using disc earth thoery, would be cool.

It's too bad nobody has been taught how to do this yet. Think of all the places we could have gone!
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2012, 02:42:59 PM »
FET is the mother of all conspiracy theories, there is nothing more unbelievable to the average person. It is easier for people to believe 911 truthers than FET.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2012, 06:04:25 PM »
Quote from: hoppy on February 04, 2012, 02:42:59 PM
FET is the mother of all conspiracy theories, there is nothing more unbelievable to the average person. It is easier for people to believe 911 truthers than FET.

If you look at the evidence against these space agencies critically, you can see that the hoax is fairly obvious.

See this video on China's recent space walk for example -
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2012, 06:37:07 PM »
How does China's questionable space walk discredit every other space agency?  ???
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2012, 06:52:49 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 04, 2012, 06:04:25 PM
If you look at the evidence against these space agencies critically, you can see that the hoax is fairly obvious.

See this video on China's recent space walk for example -

Hey, thanks for reminding me how awesome Vangelis is. Here's the song in higher quality without the silly 13-year-old's video:

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While I listen to that, why don't you go back here and tell us how NASA managed to fool Eric Michelson and Russel Owen into writing software that detects reflectors on the moon that don't exist.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2012, 07:41:07 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 04, 2012, 06:04:25 PM
Quote from: hoppy on February 04, 2012, 02:42:59 PM
FET is the mother of all conspiracy theories, there is nothing more unbelievable to the average person. It is easier for people to believe 911 truthers than FET.

If you look at the evidence against these space agencies critically, you can see that the hoax is fairly obvious.

See this video on China's recent space walk for example -
Please do tell us anything that you can show, with reliable sourcing, that the Chinese recent spacewalk was a hoax. You've always failed before.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2012, 08:19:43 PM »
I understand the necessity of the 'space hoax' in FE (I will not deign to use FET as it in no way reaches theory, is it barely an hypothesis) to demonstrate that all the photos are faked etc.

However, the idea that America and the Soviet Union during the height of the Cold War, merely a few years after the Cuban Missile Crisis, would lie to the world Togetherabout space travel, boggles the mind. Stepping even further into the abyss, the lie would have had to been continued for decades, by several countries, some often openly hostile to each other, and by tens of thousands of people. Some current technologies e.g. global positioning, require satellites. I have even seen a posting by a FEer using the photos of the ISS moving across the face of the sun to argue the size of the Sun.

I wish I could say I look forward to the responses, but I do not. I will however read them and respond if I see fit.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2012, 09:21:10 PM »
Quote from: DonaldC on February 04, 2012, 08:19:43 PM
However, the idea that America and the Soviet Union during the height of the Cold War [...]

Quote from: PizzaPlanet on January 21, 2012, 10:25:13 PM
Quote from: NAV1987 on January 19, 2012, 03:26:12 PM
During the cold war we were enemies with Russian. Both of us sent men to space. Both retrieved pictures of a round earth. How is it possible that we worked together during a hatefull Nuclear standoff just to trick the world into beleiving the world was still flat?








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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2012, 09:47:10 PM »
Quote from: PizzaPlanet on February 04, 2012, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: DonaldC on February 04, 2012, 08:19:43 PM
However, the idea that America and the Soviet Union during the height of the Cold War [...]
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2012, 12:57:05 AM »
Well then, yes in the 70's there was a joint mission between the Soviets and America. Nice pic. And Yes Kennedy actually spoke to his counterpart in the Soviet Union. Is this what passes for evidence?
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2012, 03:41:57 AM »
I can see the lies in those Astronauts eyes, look at them, they were born fakers and they will die fakers, despicable really.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2012, 08:58:57 AM »
Since both the Soviets and the U.S. were faking "space" programs and both were under the false assumption that the earth is round, it is only logical to assume both created "pictures" depicting a round earth.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2012, 09:11:47 AM »
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on February 05, 2012, 08:58:57 AM
Since both the Soviets and the U.S. were faking "space" programs and both were under the false assumption that the earth is round, it is only logical to assume both created "pictures" depicting a round earth.
You reason from an unsupported premise. You fail.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2012, 10:16:09 AM »
Quote from: markjo on February 04, 2012, 06:37:07 PM
How does China's questionable space walk discredit every other space agency?  ???

I was addressing the doubt that space missions could be hoaxed on a large scale and fool millions. China's space walk was clearly faked. China even " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">released dialogue the astronauts had betwen each other on the way up, hours before the launch was scheduled to take place.

So please don't tell me that there isn't hoaxing going on in space and that governments aren't trying to pull one over on us, because there clearly is and they clearly are.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2012, 10:36:40 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 05, 2012, 10:16:09 AM
So please don't tell me that there isn't hoaxing going on in space

So, you admit that there are things going on in space.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2012, 10:44:49 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 05, 2012, 10:16:09 AM
Quote from: markjo on February 04, 2012, 06:37:07 PM
How does China's questionable space walk discredit every other space agency?  ???

I was addressing the doubt that space missions could be hoaxed on a large scale and fool millions. China's space walk was clearly faked. China even " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">released dialogue the astronauts had been each other on the way up, hours before the launch was scheduled to take place.

So please don't tell me that there isn't hoaxing going on in space and that governments aren't trying to pull one over on us, because there clearly is and they clearly are.

Just because something can be faked does not prove that it is being faked.  Again, how does China's actions prove that every other space agency is faking missions?
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2012, 12:16:35 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 04, 2012, 06:04:25 PM
Quote from: hoppy on February 04, 2012, 02:42:59 PM
FET is the mother of all conspiracy theories, there is nothing more unbelievable to the average person. It is easier for people to believe 911 truthers than FET.

If you look at the evidence against these space agencies critically, you can see that the hoax is fairly obvious.

See this video on China's recent space walk for example -

Why do the supposedly intense water currents made by the "wave blowers" not blow the straps on the astronauts suits around?
Why do the "bubbles" float off in all different directions at speeds much faster than bubbles ever move?
Why are the "stadium lights" reflected in the astronauts equipment not reflected in their helmet visors? (Hint: they ARE, at 2.20, if you know where to look. And you can see they're not stadium lights.)
Why does the flag move exactly as if it was in vacuum and totally unlike cloth behaves under water?
Why does the 13 year old making the video not understand the concept of the position of a spacecraft relative to earth during orbit?
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 05:15:12 PM »
Flat earth theory can't be taught without resorting to conspiracy and accusation. Conspiracy has no place in a school. Schools should teach facts. That NASA faked the moon landings isn't a fact. It is a conspiracy. A speculation.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2012, 05:37:08 PM »
Quote from: markjo on February 05, 2012, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 05, 2012, 10:16:09 AM
Quote from: markjo on February 04, 2012, 06:37:07 PM
How does China's questionable space walk discredit every other space agency?  ???

I was addressing the doubt that space missions could be hoaxed on a large scale and fool millions. China's space walk was clearly faked. China even " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">released dialogue the astronauts had been each other on the way up, hours before the launch was scheduled to take place.

So please don't tell me that there isn't hoaxing going on in space and that governments aren't trying to pull one over on us, because there clearly is and they clearly are.

Just because something can be faked does not prove that it is being faked.  Again, how does China's actions prove that every other space agency is faking missions?

I did not state that China's actions said anything about other programs. China's actions demonstrate that a world-wide space hoax which tricks millions is possible and that governments actively pursue these things.

In the Epoch Times article a NASA scientist is flat out calling China's space walk a hoax. You can't just say things like that and possibly strain international relations without permission from higher up. So yeah, even NASA is calling it a hoax.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2012, 05:57:08 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 05, 2012, 05:37:08 PM
There's no "can be" in this case. China's space mission was clearly faked.

In the Epoch Times article a NASA scientist is flat out calling China's space walk a hoax. You can't just say things like that and possibly strain international relations without permission from higher up. So yeah, even NASA is calling it a hoax.

And you believe NASA this one time because... ? 

BTW, from your article:
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Hoping to understand these anomalies, The Epoch Times contacted Chinese expert Dr. Qu Zheng, who worked at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, to scientifically analyze the video discrepancies of the spacewalk broadcast.

Notice the reporter used the past tense when describing Dr, Zheng's affiliation with NASA.  Since he is no longer employed at JPL, what makes you believe that Dr. Zheng was speaking on behalf of NASA?
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2012, 06:01:08 PM »
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And you believe NASA this one time because... ? 

I don't believe a word of what NASA says, but you RE'ers do. You believe in what NASA claims without question. Again and again the argument "the space man said so" is used as the sole and dominant argument for RET.

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Notice the reporter used the past tense when describing Dr, Zheng's affiliation with NASA.  Since he is no longer employed at JPL, what makes you believe that Dr. Zheng was speaking on behalf of NASA?

There is evidence " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here that Qu Zheng is a current JPL employee. Jarrah White contacts him via email for comment. His email address is [email protected], which can be searched for on Google for additional reference of his existence.
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2012, 07:04:42 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 05, 2012, 06:01:08 PM
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And you believe NASA this one time because... ? 

I don't believe a word of what NASA says, but you RE'ers do. You believe in what NASA claims without question. Again and again the argument "the space man said so" is used as the sole and dominant argument for RET.

"The spaceman said so" is hardly the "sole" argument for RET.  It is, however, damning enough to FET that it requires the an intricate world wide conspiracy to dismiss it.

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Notice the reporter used the past tense when describing Dr, Zheng's affiliation with NASA.  Since he is no longer employed at JPL, what makes you believe that Dr. Zheng was speaking on behalf of NASA?

There is evidence " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here that Qu Zheng is a current JPL employee. Jarrah White contacts him via email for comment. His email address is [email protected], which can be searched for on Google for additional reference of his existence.

Even if he is a current JPL/NASA employee, what makes you believe that Dr. Zheng is speaking on NASA's behalf in that interview?
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Re: Spreading FET, the Small Steps to a Glorious Future
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2012, 10:23:30 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 05, 2012, 06:01:08 PM
There is evidence " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here that Qu Zheng is a current JPL employee. Jarrah White contacts him via email for comment. His email address is [email protected], which can be searched for on Google for additional reference of his existence.
Zheng Qu was a JPL employee. Qu Zheng has never been. Clearly there's some really bad journalism here.

1) No, you simply believe White when he makes outlandish claims.
2) White's reputation is very poor.
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