@Daniel

For what it's worth, the Flat Earth Wiki is up and running here now:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/wiki

Big thanks to the .net wiki team for generating the content.  I couldn't get the .net SQL wiki database I was given to import properly, so I basically ended up copy/pasting things manually.  I'm pretty sure everything (including images) is there now, though.  Let me know if there are any errors, please.

I'll make a more official post about it and let people set up accounts starting tomorrow.

There seem to be many discrepancies between .net and .org (.org is largely outdated).

Compare:
http://wiki.theflatearthsociety.net/index.php/Special:AllPages
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:AllPages

Perhaps we could just stick to .net? Seriously, everyone's tired of problems with the Wiki. It works fine the way it is now. Let's not touch it.

i should be a mod

Oops.  The missing pages are being added now.  Any content on pages is identical as of yesterday.  The missing stuff is just a hiccup in the transfer process.  Once that's added, everything will be identical and up-to-date.

Quote from: Daniel on December 31, 2011, 08:16:06 AM

For what it's worth, the Flat Earth Wiki is up and running here now:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/wiki

Big thanks to the .net wiki team for generating the content.  I couldn't get the .net SQL wiki database I was given to import properly, so I basically ended up copy/pasting things manually.  I'm pretty sure everything (including images) is there now, though.  Let me know if there are any errors, please.

I'll make a more official post about it and let people set up accounts starting tomorrow.

There seem to be many discrepancies between .net and .org (.org is largely outdated).

Compare:
http://wiki.theflatearthsociety.net/index.php/Special:AllPages
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:AllPages

Perhaps we could just stick to .net? Seriously, everyone's tired of problems with the Wiki. It works fine the way it is now. Let's not touch it.

Oops.  The missing pages are being added now.  Any content on pages is identical as of yesterday.  The missing stuff is just a hiccup in the transfer process.  Once that's added, everything will be identical and up-to-date.

Excellent. Equal level of bullshit on all sites then. Good work, Shenty.

The link on the society's website now leads to theflatearthsociety.org/mediawiki, which doesn't exist.
Also: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.0

The link on the society's website now leads to theflatearthsociety.org/mediawiki, which doesn't exist.
Also: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.0

The link is fixed now and all of the missing pages (90% of which were redirects) are in place.  With one very minor exception (an additional redirect on .org), everything is completely synced up now.

I'll check into your FAQ issue today..

I've noticed a great deal of the work I've done for the wiki has been completely removed.  I don't particularly care as I will be publishing this information in a weekly feature, but I imagine a bunch of other stuff must have gotten lost as well.  Just a heads up.

I've noticed a great deal of the work I've done for the wiki has been completely removed.  I don't particularly care as I will be publishing this information in a weekly feature, but I imagine a bunch of other stuff must have gotten lost as well.  Just a heads up.

Wait, was it removed from the .net wiki or did it somehow not get transferred over? 

Its missing on both, I'm talking about content from the original.  Not sure if PP ever moved the original stuff to the new wiki, though I was pretty sure he did.  I only mention it as I noticed dead links here and there that I know used to have content pages. 

Its missing on both, I'm talking about content from the original.  Not sure if PP ever moved the original stuff to the new wiki, though I was pretty sure he did.  I only mention it as I noticed dead links here and there that I know used to have content pages.

I agree with you JD in that there are pages of ours missing. I compared the current Wiki with my "backup" and found several cases.

Hmm, that's odd (I'm pretty sure your I copied your stuff, yeah), but I can always add it once Daniel gets me an account on the .org Wiki.

ClockTower, could you share your backup with me? Most of mine comes from the Wayback Machine and Google cache, so it's quite far from complete. Every little helps.

Hmm, that's odd (I'm pretty sure your I copied your stuff, yeah), but I can always add it once Daniel gets me an account on the .org Wiki.

ClockTower, could you share your backup with me? Most of mine comes from the Wayback Machine and Google cache, so it's quite far from complete. Every little helps.

Since you called me a 'telemarketer' in the upper fora recently, I'm afraid I'm just too busy on the phone right now.

Seriously, my backup is a bit haphazard, just page saves of when I attacked a page. I think I attacked just about every page though. The page saves are html files over several months and at least one PC upgrade since. I'll see what I can do. Let me know if you find a solution before then.

Since you called me a 'telemarketer' in the upper fora recently, I'm afraid I'm just too busy on the phone right now.

Ah, yes, the late night wave of shoppers from both Australias are probably keeping you occupied.

Seriously, my backup is a bit haphazard, just page saves of when I attacked a page. I think I attacked just about every page though. The page saves are html files over several months and at least one PC upgrade since.

Excellent pitch. I'll buy three of those!

I'll see what I can do. Let me know if you find a solution before then.

Thanks.

I just became a member of The Flat Earth Society. I will watch with great interest when I receive my membership supplies.

I just became a member of The Flat Earth Society. I will watch with great interest when I receive my membership supplies.

Just now? It should be fairly soon. It took me ~2 weeks to receive mine which I think is fairly reasonable for international post.

Just now?

He has only just realised that the earth is flat. Look, he even tried to make an FE thread.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=52604.msg1289466#msg1289466
Cute huh?
Of course it bombed, but who hasn't made a bad FE OP? Needs moar practice.

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on January 10, 2012, 11:31:47 AM

Just now?

He has only just realised that the earth is flat. Look, he even tried to make an FE thread.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=52604.msg1289466#msg1289466
Cute huh?
Of course it bombed, but who hasn't made a bad FE OP? Needs moar practice.

I have never made a bad FE OP.

People like English, Pizza, Pongo, Crusty myself etc etc were never allowed to be part of the team. We have been called trolls by John Davis and similar for ages, not allowed into the 'club' and despite dwindling numbers remained excluded. Whose side are we all on now? Our own. There is no FE team anymore. There are no suitable people to choose as mods, because shown such lack of loyalty from the site, you get a lack of loyalty back. It is very easy to get frustrated when your efforts add up to naught. There was no shortage of new people. FES ignored them all.
I have over 6000 posts, PizzaPlanet has even more. I know how the site works, I know tons of FET, I know all the members, been here ages ... should be an ideal candidate for mod. But I have absolutely no interest in doing anything for this site. I used to 'do my bit' in the upper fora, now I only post when it suits me. If a noob makes a post about Coriolis or something, I'll leave it. Don't welcome them any more, don't give them the answer, couldn't care less if they stay or not. If the guy that owns the site doesn't give a crap, why should I? I would be a terrible mod, because I only post for me nowadays and feel no sense of loyalty. I'd just ban people I don't like because the site's well being is low down on my priority list.
Bad attitude? Yep.
But its not because new people didn't come to fill the roles. Its because they were all pushed to one side.

I think it has a lot to do with a person's first post. I've seen a few people win the respect of the FE Core with less than 20 posts. And there was that one person you pointed out that was made a FE Believer after just one post.  While others who come here as a Round Earther, post 50+ posts in favor or RE then see the light and post thousands and thousands of posts for FE will never be seen as anything but a troll. Threads about new FE ideas and concepts are avoided like the plague by The FE Core if posted by someone from the outside. I can understand that to a degree, they don't want to look silly by backing someone who will 'turn' on them one day. Yet, even years of defending a flat earth, as you and I have done, is not enough to wash away the tarnish.

Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that if you want to be a Flat Earth Believer, you're going to have to break a rule and create a new account. Until then, you're forever branded a troll and will never be anything else.

The 'FE believers' have less credibility than the so called 'trolls'. It is those who post in the believers section that are respected the least and ridiculed for being troll-like the most. I don't want a new account. Speaking about FET with 6000 posts has a damn sight more presence than 20 posts and a believer badge.

Being an FE Believer is stupid. None of them can have any fun with FET because they are all so frightened of being outed as trolls. So they hide in their forum posting awful poetry and copy pasting chunks of crap about how absolutely any civilisation in the past was better than our own.

They also haven't added anyone in over a year. The whole thing is defunct. They wanted a place to feel special. Well, there is no doubt they are 'special'.

Watermelon, Rhubarb Rhubarb, no one believes the Earth is Flat, Peas and Carrots,  walla.

That's enough from the peanut gallery.

Rhubarb Rhubarb

Pie.

ITT: Thork at his best.

Watermelon, Rhubarb Rhubarb, no one believes the Earth is Flat, Peas and Carrots,  walla.

A prime job on making an assumption regarding what the post was without reading it. Unfortunately, your assumption missed the point.

Quote from: John Davis on January 11, 2012, 07:39:16 AM

Watermelon, Rhubarb Rhubarb, no one believes the Earth is Flat, Peas and Carrots,  walla.

A prime job on making an assumption regarding what the post was without reading it. Unfortunately, your assumption missed the point.

I thought John Davis did a great job there. Using the usual meaningless murmurs for extras in both radio and film, he implies that "no one believes the Earth is Flat" is nonsense. This is in contrast to Thork's comment.

The 'FE believers' have less credibility than the so called 'trolls'. It is those who post in the believers section that are respected the least and ridiculed for being troll-like the most. I don't want a new account. Speaking about FET with 6000 posts has a damn sight more presence than 20 posts and a believer badge.

Being an FE Believer is stupid. None of them can have any fun with FET because they are all so frightened of being outed as trolls. So they hide in their forum posting awful poetry and copy pasting chunks of crap about how absolutely any civilisation in the past was better than our own.

They also haven't added anyone in over a year. The whole thing is defunct. They wanted a place to feel special. Well, there is no doubt they are 'special'.

It should be noted that being in the group has no bearing on whether or not the individual believes the earth is flat. Its completely arbitrary as to who is in it.

It should be noted that being in the group has no bearing on whether or not the individual believes the earth is flat. Its completely arbitrary as to who is in it.

I thought that to be in the group you must post that you believe that the Earth is flat. Given the George Scott fallacy, doesn't that mean AFAWK the members believe that the Earth is flat?

To be in that group you need to be chummy with John Davis.

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I thought John Davis did a great job there. Using the usual meaningless murmurs for extras in both radio and film, he implies that "no one believes the Earth is Flat" is nonsense. This is in contrast to Thork's comment.

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Thork's comment did not say no one believes the Earth is flat - it said that being a FEB (member of the "Flat Earth Believers" group on this forum) is stupid. Belonging to FEB has very little to do with believing in FET, as shown by many FEBs of both the past and today, as well as legitimate FE'ers being kept outside of the group.

I thought that to be in the group you must post that you believe that the Earth is flat. Given the George Scott fallacy, doesn't that mean AFAWK the members believe that the Earth is flat?

It used to be like that. Nowadays the "Zetetic Council" (the members of which are mostly inactive) "make a decision", aka they never respond to applications.

Its easy to say I didn't read the post PP, but perhaps you didn't read whats behind the post.  Perhaps I cut through the "Rhubarb" a bit too directly.

also:
Pie.