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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2011, 08:20:17 AM »
I did not ask for absolute proof, I was asking for any proof other than your opinion.  You showed me the symbols and said you believe that they show that the space agencies are in a conspiracy.  I looked at the symbols and told you I believe that it makes sense for all of them to have that similar shape.  You claim the pentagram is satanic, I believe that satanic people do use the symbol, but that others who are not satanic also use the symbol.  Also, most of the space agencies use an inverted V, not a pentagram.  This is only two of the five lines needed to make a pentagram.  This symbol was even used in Star Trek, which I am sure influenced its use with the space agencies.

Anyway, let's move on.

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    You showed that many space agencies appear to use a common geographic shape

Where is this pentagram-shaped country?

Ok, I made a typo.  I am sure that you have made them in the past.  You know from the context of the post that I meant geometric, not geographic.  That does not take away from the meaning of the post, though.  An inverted V is very common.  Soldiers us it to display rank.  It is a letter in the Greek alphabet.  Scientists use it as a unit of measure for wavelength. 

It could be a geographic symbol, since some mountains appear to have this shape when viewed from far away. 

I can't believe that you can take a common symbol, say it represents a pentagram, then say that the pentagram proves that the people using the symbol are satanic, and deny you are jumping to conclusions.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2011, 08:46:43 AM »
I did not ask for absolute proof, I was asking for any proof other than your opinion.  You showed me the symbols and said you believe that they show that the space agencies are in a conspiracy.  I looked at the symbols and told you I believe that it makes sense for all of them to have that similar shape.  You claim the pentagram is satanic, I believe that satanic people do use the symbol, but that others who are not satanic also use the symbol.  Also, most of the space agencies use an inverted V, not a pentagram.  This is only two of the five lines needed to make a pentagram.  This symbol was even used in Star Trek, which I am sure influenced its use with the space agencies.

Anyway, let's move on.

Ok, I made a typo.  I am sure that you have made them in the past.  You know from the context of the post that I meant geometric, not geographic.  That does not take away from the meaning of the post, though.  An inverted V is very common.  Soldiers us it to display rank.  It is a letter in the Greek alphabet.  Scientists use it as a unit of measure for wavelength. 

It could be a geographic symbol, since some mountains appear to have this shape when viewed from far away. 

I can't believe that you can take a common symbol, say it represents a pentagram, then say that the pentagram proves that the people using the symbol are satanic, and deny you are jumping to conclusions.

I did not jump to conclusions. It's more like I jumped and then the conclusion accelerated towards my feet at many billions of miles an hour.

Your argument is full of holes. The symbol involved in the majority of the space agency logos is not a V, and nor is it a chevron, the symbol I believe you are referring to when you say "soldiers use it to display rank". In fact, it is two Vs joined at a common point. This symbol does not just contain two lines of a pentagram, but two whole lines and two partial ones. They have avoided explicitly showing satanic imagery, but have included enough lines to allow the easy construction of a full pentagram by extending them. Thus they pay their respects to the devil.

The explanations that you have offered for the inclusion of what you call the "V symbol" in these logos do not make sense. They do not align with what is ostensibly the purpose of these organisations - to go into space. What do mountains and the Greek alphabet have to do with space travel?

I imagine that you will claim "It looks like a space shuttle" or "It looks like a rocket", but the symbol has little in common with either of those things. Space shuttles have flat sections on the back of their wings, and a fuselage, elements not included in the symbol. Anyway, NASA were the only organisation to use those. And rockets look nothing like that shape - rather than having wings, they appear like a "perverse phallus of iron" as I believe James has described them.

The burden of proof is on you to explain these symbols within a Round Earth context, since so far a hidden pentagram appears to be the only reasonable explanation. 


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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2011, 09:09:25 AM »
Here is the same NASA picture you posted.  Were exactly are the two Vs?



Here is the official explanation of the NASA symbol, along with a link to the website that I got if from.

http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/features/symbols-of-nasa.html

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The round red, white and blue insignia, nicknamed the "meatball," was designed by employee James Modarelli in 1959, NASA's second year. The design incorporates references to different aspects of the mission of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. The round shape of the insignia represents a planet. The stars represent space. The red v-shaped vector represents aeronautics. The circular orbit around the agency's name represents space travel.

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but two whole lines and two partial ones
How can you have partial lines?  Either it is a line or not.  That is like saying that you have dug half of a hole.  It is still a hole.

I gave the examples of other inverted Vs because the symbol is everywhere.  The roof on my house is in the shape of an inverted V.  Does that mean I am a satanist?  Is everyone in my town a satanist?  I don't believe it represents a partial pentagram.
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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2011, 09:27:20 AM »

The round red, white and blue insignia, nicknamed the "meatball," was designed by employee James Modarelli in 1959, NASA's second year. The design incorporates references to different aspects of the mission of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. The round shape of the insignia represents a planet. The stars represent space. The red v-shaped vector represents aeronautics. The circular orbit around the agency's name represents space travel.
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You're taking a quote from an employee of a satanic conspiracy as evidence? ???
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Were exactly are the two Vs?
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How can you have partial lines?  Either it is a line or not.  That is like saying that you have dug half of a hole.  It is still a hole.
Now you're just feigning ignorance, but I'll humour you and even post a lovely diagram:

The white and black lines are the two Vs. The yellow is a continuation of the partial lines of the hidden pentagram in the image.

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I gave the examples of other inverted Vs because the symbol is everywhere.  The roof on my house is in the shape of an inverted V.  Does that mean I am a satanist?  Is everyone in my town a satanist?  I don't believe it represents a partial pentagram.
A. As I have stated, it is not a V but a symbol composed of two Vs, and
B. Your analogy does not make sense. V-shaped roofs evolved as a system to keep off rainwater, but space agencies had complete freedom to include a design of any shape in their logos. Why is this particular symbol prevalent?

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2011, 09:28:54 AM »

I gave the examples of other inverted Vs because the symbol is everywhere.  The roof on my house is in the shape of an inverted V.  Does that mean I am a satanist?  Is everyone in my town a satanist?  I don't believe it represents a partial pentagram.

the roof is not logos/symbol. distinguish it...
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You can search for "leo zagamy" who break all conspiracy, before he was one of the conspiracy until 33 degree, but now he doesn't. he has illuminaty bloodline aristocrat.
he cannot be killed because he has bloodline even he converts to Islam.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2011, 09:43:31 AM »
All you have proven is that you can take a basic shape, add lines, and make it resemble a pentagram.  I guess the power company is in on the conspiracy too.

« Last Edit: September 24, 2011, 09:47:08 AM by jroa »

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2011, 09:49:19 AM »
All you have proven is that you can take a basic shape, add lines, and make it resemble a pentagram.  I guess the power company is in on the conspiracy too.


I don't think I need to tell you how ridiculous that argument is. You've already lost.

Another win for FE!

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2011, 09:56:07 AM »
All you have proven is that you can take a basic shape, add lines, and make it resemble a pentagram.  I guess the power company is in on the conspiracy too.


I don't think I need to tell you how ridiculous that argument is. You've already lost.

Another win for FE!

So, let me get this straight.  Flat earth believers are allowed to add lines to pictures, but round earth believers are not and this makes them loose?  What drugs are you on? 

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2011, 09:59:06 AM »
All you have proven is that you can take a basic shape, add lines, and make it resemble a pentagram.  I guess the power company is in on the conspiracy too.


I don't think I need to tell you how ridiculous that argument is. You've already lost.

Another win for FE!

So, let me get this straight.  Flat earth believers are allowed to add lines to pictures, but round earth believers are not and this makes them loose?  What drugs are you on?

I merely extrapolated an existing symbol. You drew one that had no relation to the picture.

ITT: Xenu pwns noobs.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #69 on: September 24, 2011, 10:08:48 AM »
This will go back and forth forever.  Let's move on.  Your next point was.

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    That is not evidence and would not hold up in a court of law.

Unfortunately you're right, since The Conspiracy controls many of the world's legal systems.

Now, it is not only the governments, all of the scientists, all of the space agency workers, pilots, the military, and any number of other people that you will add to the conspiracy theory, but also the judges and lawyers?  How about school teachers, laborers, police officers?  The list is getting quite long.  I might as well add my own.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #70 on: September 24, 2011, 10:22:22 AM »
This will go back and forth forever.  Let's move on.  Your next point was.

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    That is not evidence and would not hold up in a court of law.

Unfortunately you're right, since The Conspiracy controls many of the world's legal systems.

Now, it is not only the governments, all of the scientists, all of the space agency workers, pilots, the military, and any number of other people that you will add to the conspiracy theory, but also the judges and lawyers?  How about school teachers, laborers, police officers?  The list is getting quite long.  I might as well add my own.
It's the biggest and most profitable business on Earth. Is it any surprise that it has many employees?

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2011, 10:29:21 AM »
Now, it is not only the governments, all of the scientists, all of the space agency workers, pilots, the military, and any number of other people that you will add to the conspiracy theory, but also the judges and lawyers?  How about school teachers, laborers, police officers?  The list is getting quite long.  I might as well add my own.

conspiracy smartly only make the system and entering pioneer
for example make democracy parlementery system, actually democracy is from conspiracy. so conspiracy can easyly control that country...

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2011, 10:38:18 AM »
It's the biggest and most profitable business on Earth. Is it any surprise that it has many employees?

I have been reading many of the older posts on this forum.  Most of them say that only a few people in each country know about the conspiracy.  Now, you are saying that a large amount, if not most, of the people in every (supposedly) space traveling nation know about the conspiracy.  Which one is it?  Do a lot of people know about it, or do a few people know about it?

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2011, 10:42:42 AM »
It's the biggest and most profitable business on Earth. Is it any surprise that it has many employees?

I have been reading many of the older posts on this forum.  Most of them say that only a few people in each country know about the conspiracy.  Now, you are saying that a large amount, if not most, of the people in every (supposedly) space traveling nation know about the conspiracy.  Which one is it?  Do a lot of people know about it, or do a few people know about it?
Knowing about the conspiracy =/= being employed by it. The majority are employed by proxy companies, and are fervent globularists, unaware that they are being brainwashed and deceived and unaware that they are aiding a satanic organisation in hiding the true shape of the Earth.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2011, 10:47:34 AM »
It's the biggest and most profitable business on Earth. Is it any surprise that it has many employees?

I have been reading many of the older posts on this forum.  Most of them say that only a few people in each country know about the conspiracy.  Now, you are saying that a large amount, if not most, of the people in every (supposedly) space traveling nation know about the conspiracy.  Which one is it?  Do a lot of people know about it, or do a few people know about it?
Knowing about the conspiracy =/= being employed by it. The majority are employed by proxy companies, and are fervent globularists, unaware that they are being brainwashed and deceived and unaware that they are aiding a satanic organisation in hiding the true shape of the Earth.

Once again, do you have a shred of proof, other that a couple of lines in their logos that form an angle?  You can't really claim something to be true unless there is something, anything, other than your imagination for us to go by.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #75 on: September 24, 2011, 10:48:20 AM »
Knowing about the conspiracy =/= being employed by it. The majority are employed by proxy companies, and are fervent globularists, unaware that they are being brainwashed and deceived and unaware that they are aiding a satanic organisation in hiding the true shape of the Earth.
That might be the majority, but there is a minority of thousands of independent scientists that would be able to tell a flat Earth from a round one.
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #76 on: September 24, 2011, 10:51:50 AM »
It's the biggest and most profitable business on Earth. Is it any surprise that it has many employees?

I have been reading many of the older posts on this forum.  Most of them say that only a few people in each country know about the conspiracy.  Now, you are saying that a large amount, if not most, of the people in every (supposedly) space traveling nation know about the conspiracy.  Which one is it?  Do a lot of people know about it, or do a few people know about it?
Knowing about the conspiracy =/= being employed by it. The majority are employed by proxy companies, and are fervent globularists, unaware that they are being brainwashed and deceived and unaware that they are aiding a satanic organisation in hiding the true shape of the Earth.

Once again, do you have a shred of proof, other that a couple of lines in their logos that form an angle?  You can't really claim something to be true unless there is something, anything, other than your imagination for us to go by.
The Earth is flat.

That might be the majority, but there is a minority of thousands of independent scientists that would be able to tell a flat Earth from a round one.
What I have seen on this forum would suggest otherwise.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #77 on: September 24, 2011, 10:57:07 AM »

The Earth is flat.


Once again, do you have any proof that will convince me of that?

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #78 on: September 24, 2011, 10:58:57 AM »

The Earth is flat.


Once again, do you have any proof that will convince me of that?

Yes. The Bedford Level Experiment.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #79 on: September 24, 2011, 11:00:31 AM »

The Earth is flat.


Once again, do you have any proof that will convince me of that?

Yes. The Bedford Level Experiment.
I specifically remember those results were deemed inconclusive.
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #80 on: September 24, 2011, 11:01:42 AM »

The Earth is flat.


Once again, do you have any proof that will convince me of that?

Yes. The Bedford Level Experiment.
I specifically remember those results were deemed inconclusive.

Only by desperate globularists.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #81 on: September 24, 2011, 11:09:03 AM »
Only by desperate globularists.
So all the factors that were listed that Robowtham didn't account for when conducting his experiments you disagree on. You think Robowtham conducted his experiments flawlessly.

And we're the desperate ones...
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #82 on: September 24, 2011, 11:10:31 AM »
Only by desperate globularists.
So all the factors that were listed that Robowtham didn't account for when conducting his experiments you disagree on. You think Robowtham conducted his experiments flawlessly.

And we're the desperate ones...

I think that RE'ers saw his results, said 'that's impossible!' and came up with some BS reason why he could see farther than was predicted.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #83 on: September 24, 2011, 11:12:30 AM »
Only by desperate globularists.
So all the factors that were listed that Robowtham didn't account for when conducting his experiments you disagree on. You think Robowtham conducted his experiments flawlessly.

And we're the desperate ones...

I think that RE'ers saw his results, said 'that's impossible!' and came up with some BS reason why he could see farther than was predicted.

I know you said that this is what you believe, but do you have anything that will cause me to believe this?

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #84 on: September 24, 2011, 11:17:04 AM »
I think that RE'ers saw his results, said 'that's impossible!' and came up with some BS reason why he could see farther than was predicted.
And I think that you are just hoping that Robowtham is right, because FE'ers have little as it is in terms of evidence.

What you're saying is a BS reason is such common physical phenomena such as that of light refraction.
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

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Re: Recent trip to space by a civilian
« Reply #85 on: September 24, 2011, 06:44:04 PM »
Only by desperate globularists.
So all the factors that were listed that Robowtham didn't account for when conducting his experiments you disagree on. You think Robowtham conducted his experiments flawlessly.

And we're the desperate ones...

I think that RE'ers saw his results, said 'that's impossible!' and came up with some BS reason why he could see farther than was predicted.

So the guy who used pretty sketchy methods in the first place(why the hell would he go in the river and watch a boat?) is right, but EVERYONE ELSE who has ever done something similar is wrong.......okay.
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