Q: "Please explain sunrises and sunsets."

Q: "Please explain sunrises and sunsets."

A: It is a perspective effect. The sun is just getting farther away: it looks like it is disappearing because everything gets smaller, and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.



please explain a bit clearer ...

(sorry my English is no-good)

let me image a picture:
I'm on an island, and there is water all around me.
on this island i have a tower.
the sun is rising VERTICALLY from east and sets VERTICALLY to west.
it is possible to get this situation right?

so now:

if I'm on the beach surface and the sun is just showing up from the sea
and if I go up my tower to n- floor I will see the sun full raised up above the surface.
and if i go down on the beach the sun is again rising
same thing for the sunset....

so explain to me Please How is it possible the sun to be under the horizon while I'm on the beach and above the horizon in some meters above the surface?

so the point is that the sun is not getting smaller when it sets, but it goes UNDER the horizon!
or so it seams ...



here I have some questions:

2. Is the flat earth in this model spins around the north pole?
3. Is the north axis of the disc rotating ( I mean so the surface will be tilted in different direction )
or the point is that the earth is the center of THE ALL and is unmovable ?
 
 

This question is why the vast majority of the human population stopping thinking the world was flat well over 2000 years ago.

The Society would be better off switching to the Earth is the center of the Solar System/Universe. At least then it would only be stuck 500 years in the past, rather than over 2000.

This question is why the vast majority of the human population stopping thinking the world was flat well over 2000 years ago.

The Society would be better off switching to the Earth is the center of the Solar System/Universe. At least then it would only be stuck 500 years in the past, rather than over 2000.

and this is related to the OP how?

Quote from: Horatio on August 18, 2010, 01:05:57 PM

This question is why the vast majority of the human population stopping thinking the world was flat well over 2000 years ago.

The Society would be better off switching to the Earth is the center of the Solar System/Universe. At least then it would only be stuck 500 years in the past, rather than over 2000.

and this is related to the OP how?

Considering that FE can't explain sunrises/sunsets, I consider it to be a valid response.

Q: "Please explain sunrises and sunsets."

A: It is a perspective effect. The sun is just getting farther away: it looks like it is disappearing because everything gets smaller, and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.



please explain a bit clearer ...

(sorry my English is no-good)

let me image a picture:
I'm on an island, and there is water all around me.
on this island i have a tower.
the sun is rising VERTICALLY from east and sets VERTICALLY to west.
it is possible to get this situation right?

so now:

if I'm on the beach surface and the sun is just showing up from the sea
and if I go up my tower to n- floor I will see the sun full raised up above the surface.
and if i go down on the beach the sun is again rising
same thing for the sunset....

so explain to me Please How is it possible the sun to be under the horizon while I'm on the beach and above the horizon in some meters above the surface?

so the point is that the sun is not getting smaller when it sets, but it goes UNDER the horizon!
or so it seams ...



here I have some questions:

2. Is the flat earth in this model spins around the north pole?
3. Is the north axis of the disc rotating ( I mean so the surface will be tilted in different direction )
or the point is that the earth is the center of THE ALL and is unmovable ?
 
 

I've already covered this in detal, http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=39241.0 please search the forums before asking such questions in future....

Not denying they can't explain sunsets/sunrises but your post was still irrelevant

ok so I see:
a .pdf that must say "the earth is not flat"
and u say it is wrong . . .

please answer my questions (2,3) or show me a link to the info for the model
because they are for the model it self and not about is the model wright or wrong 

and one of the proves you have for the flat earth is:
the ship is not sinking down the horizon
so if I can ask the question again:

if you can see the ship whit a telescope

why you can't see the sun after sun set? or before sunrise
or the moon?

but on the other hand if you rise above the surface you can see them?

in the rules section :
"or if your question is commonly asked but you aren't satisfied with the answers, feel free to post it and we will try our best to answer it"
so I'm not "satisfied"
so can I get some explanation or not ?
 

Quote from: s3d on August 18, 2010, 12:55:13 PM

Q: "Please explain sunrises and sunsets."

A: It is a perspective effect. The sun is just getting farther away: it looks like it is disappearing because everything gets smaller, and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.



please explain a bit clearer ...

(sorry my English is no-good)

let me image a picture:
I'm on an island, and there is water all around me.
on this island i have a tower.
the sun is rising VERTICALLY from east and sets VERTICALLY to west.
it is possible to get this situation right?

so now:

if I'm on the beach surface and the sun is just showing up from the sea
and if I go up my tower to n- floor I will see the sun full raised up above the surface.
and if i go down on the beach the sun is again rising
same thing for the sunset....

so explain to me Please How is it possible the sun to be under the horizon while I'm on the beach and above the horizon in some meters above the surface?

so the point is that the sun is not getting smaller when it sets, but it goes UNDER the horizon!
or so it seams ...



here I have some questions:

2. Is the flat earth in this model spins around the north pole?
3. Is the north axis of the disc rotating ( I mean so the surface will be tilted in different direction )
or the point is that the earth is the center of THE ALL and is unmovable ?
 
 

I've already covered this in detal, http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=39241.0 please search the forums before asking such questions in future....

False. Your review of the paper was lackluster and uninformed. For example, arguing that you can't use trig on a RE or a curved universe is simply beyond lame.

Even if you had adequately assailed the paper, you did not answer the OP.

Quote from: s3d on August 18, 2010, 12:55:13 PM

Q: "Please explain sunrises and sunsets."

A: It is a perspective effect. The sun is just getting farther away: it looks like it is disappearing because everything gets smaller, and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.



please explain a bit clearer ...

(sorry my English is no-good)

let me image a picture:
I'm on an island, and there is water all around me.
on this island i have a tower.
the sun is rising VERTICALLY from east and sets VERTICALLY to west.
it is possible to get this situation right?

so now:

if I'm on the beach surface and the sun is just showing up from the sea
and if I go up my tower to n- floor I will see the sun full raised up above the surface.
and if i go down on the beach the sun is again rising
same thing for the sunset....

so explain to me Please How is it possible the sun to be under the horizon while I'm on the beach and above the horizon in some meters above the surface?

so the point is that the sun is not getting smaller when it sets, but it goes UNDER the horizon!
or so it seams ...



here I have some questions:

2. Is the flat earth in this model spins around the north pole?
3. Is the north axis of the disc rotating ( I mean so the surface will be tilted in different direction )
or the point is that the earth is the center of THE ALL and is unmovable ?
 
 

I've already covered this in detal, http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=39241.0 please search the forums before asking such questions in future....

Epic fail, please try again.

And when you are done, go into a dark room with a flat round table and shine a flashlight horizontally across the table to understand your failure here. And see if you can do that while keeping your flashlight in a high noon position to another observer across the table. When it comes to math, you might realize how epically a fail the FET is in this regard.

Not denying they can't explain sunsets/sunrises but your post was still irrelevant

Not irrelevant to point out that they can not explain sunsets/sunrises.

s3d:
They can't, they only think they can.

Give it up.  There are, maybe, 4 people (or less) here who honestly believe the Earth is flat.
They're a combination of delusional (like Moonlight makes fires harder to extinguish) to simply misinterpreting data and seeing patterns that aren't really there.

Nothing you say will make any difference and the ONLY reason to stay here is to practice debating.

so I will make another comparison between experiments

1) one of the FE prove experiments:

there is a half sinked ship on the horizon -> i get a telescope and i "reveal" the ship

2) Moon set:

there is a half "sinked" moon on the horizon -> i get a telescope and the moon is again under the horizon

furthermore if the moon is going far a way of me and this is the reason for me to see the moon smaller
if i clime up from the shore so I'm lets say on 100m above the surface I will see the moon again as big/bright object as how i was seeing it some min on the shore

+ bonus + u can't see the sun even whit a telescope at night, or even a second after sunset
if u can see a ship far away whit a telescope and it is not half sinked why u can't see the full moon/sun when it is half sinked?

one more thing:
if you say here is what is happening:
the earth is the surface of a table and a flashlight is rotating above the table so only parts of the surface are lighted:

then if i place a glass on the table's surface
as the flashlight set-down on the top of the glass so i don't get any light on the top
I will see some light on the bottom
which is practically exactly opposite of the real live sun/moon-sets  


as u can see I'm not using the Earth's shape in my analysis,
be it a globe or flat or any other shape
but it is impossible to get the observed result whit model in which the sun is rotating ABOVE a flat surface

so I will make another comparison between experiments

1) one of the FE prove experiments:

there is a half sinked ship on the horizon -> i get a telescope and i "reveal" the ship

2) Moon set:

there is a half "sinked" moon on the horizon -> i get a telescope and the moon is again under the horizon

furthermore if the moon is going far a way of me and this is the reason for me to see the moon smaller
if i clime up from the shore so I'm lets say on 100m above the surface I will see the moon again as big/bright object as how i was seeing it some min on the shore

+ bonus + u can't see the sun even whit a telescope at night, or even a second after sunset
if u can see a ship far away whit a telescope and it is not half sinked why u can't see the full moon/sun when it is half sinked?

one more thing:
if you say here is what is happening:
the earth is the surface of a table and a flashlight is rotating above the table so only parts of the surface are lighted:

then if i place a glass on the table's surface
as the flashlight set-down on the top of the glass so i don't get any light on the top
I will see some light on the bottom
which is practically exactly opposite of the real live sun/moon-sets  


as u can see I'm not using the Earth's shape in my analysis,
be it a globe or flat or any other shape
but it is impossible to get the observed result whit model in which the sun is rotating ABOVE a flat surface

Since you're new here I'll answer all your questions without actually answering them:

Ignore this place, it's rubbish.  You'll always get either Devil's advocates who will debate it even if they know it's wrong, or those who will think they're right no matter what.

Nothing you say, do, prove, disprove, ect... will convince anyone that they're wrong or to convince them to publicly admit it.

We just do this for fun.

We just do this for fun.

I get that
and I'm willing to enjoy my self by debating on it
but I need a point because I don't understand the basics of the FE model
so I ask how this model explain a natural phenomena
and I don't get any answers so far


I take my time to read some topics
and I have seen how they go

explain this -
it is illusion, conspiracy, there is no prove for it give us a prove ....
prove
this prove is not legitimate, it is false ... I don't like it...
prove the prove ....

but in sunset case I just don't get the explanation
HOW they think that the sun is setting without going below the horizon    
how one can see the sun after it is set down just by going to the last floor of a building
or if You a in an glass open elevator so u can go up-down freely how u can see sun above horizon on the last floor and no sun on the ground level.
  

Quote from: Lorddave on August 19, 2010, 12:48:56 PM

We just do this for fun.

I get that
and I'm willing to enjoy my self by debating on it
but I need a point because I don't understand the basics of the FE model
so I ask how this model explain a natural phenomena
and I don't get any answers so far


I take my time to read some topics
and I have seen how they go

explain this -
it is illusion, conspiracy, there is no prove for it give us a prove ....
prove
this prove is not legitimate, it is false ... I don't like it...
prove the prove ....

but in sunset case I just don't get the explanation
HOW they think that the sun is setting without going below the horizon    
how one can see the sun after it is set down just by going to the last floor of a building
or if You a in an glass open elevator so u can go up-down freely how u can see sun above horizon on the last floor and no sun on the ground level.
  

its bendy light!

Quote from: Lorddave on August 19, 2010, 12:48:56 PM

We just do this for fun.

I get that
and I'm willing to enjoy my self by debating on it
but I need a point because I don't understand the basics of the FE model
so I ask how this model explain a natural phenomena
and I don't get any answers so far


I take my time to read some topics
and I have seen how they go

explain this -
it is illusion, conspiracy, there is no prove for it give us a prove ....
prove
this prove is not legitimate, it is false ... I don't like it...
prove the prove ....

but in sunset case I just don't get the explanation
HOW they think that the sun is setting without going below the horizon    
how one can see the sun after it is set down just by going to the last floor of a building
or if You a in an glass open elevator so u can go up-down freely how u can see sun above horizon on the last floor and no sun on the ground level.
  

Or perspective.

One suggestion is that we see it vanish but it's really not but our eyes aren't capable of seeing it and our brains merge the bottom with the ground because it can.

its bendy light!

please excuse the noob
WHAT?

edit: do you mean the theory that the light is bending and travel on a ark-like trajectory
I have found much topics on that and it do not seems that much FE'rs believe it is correct

Or perspective.

One suggestion is that we see it vanish but it's really not but our eyes aren't capable of seeing it and our brains merge the bottom with the ground because it can.

so the sun is always above the horizon but we just cant see it
and my brain is making the sunset for my Convenience  ...
and we go to:
the world is nothing as we know it, because the world as we know it exist only in the mind (brain)
which take electric impulses and mix it in to an illusion ....

Quote from: MrBoB on August 19, 2010, 01:33:43 PM

its bendy light!

please excuse the noob
WHAT?

edit: do you mean the theory that the light is bending and travel on a ark-like trajectory
I have found much topics on that and it do not seems that much FE'rs believe it is correct

Quote from: Lorddave on August 19, 2010, 01:35:04 PM

Or perspective.

One suggestion is that we see it vanish but it's really not but our eyes aren't capable of seeing it and our brains merge the bottom with the ground because it can.

so the sun is always above the horizon but we just cant see it
and my brain is making the sunset for my Convenience  ...
and we go to:
the world is nothing as we know it, because the world as we know it exist only in the mind (brain)
which take electric impulses and mix it in to an illusion ....

Actually the bending light theory would be false because it places all observers in a parabolic bowl. This means the focal point would be above the persons head. Hence, it's false because we don't see or view the horizon over our heads, nor do we need to look up to see it. The bendy light theory had been debunked in another thread to where I had demonstrated why it's a fallacy.

I had a thought:
The Perspective "solution" to sunrise and sunset only applies to "extremely bright objects".  The moon is not an extremely bright object, especially during the day so why does it seem to set below the horizon when FET says it just moves farther away?

Quote from: three-dimensional-world on August 18, 2010, 01:43:45 PM

Quote from: s3d on August 18, 2010, 12:55:13 PM

Q: "Please explain sunrises and sunsets."

A: It is a perspective effect. The sun is just getting farther away: it looks like it is disappearing because everything gets smaller, and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.



please explain a bit clearer ...

(sorry my English is no-good)

let me image a picture:
I'm on an island, and there is water all around me.
on this island i have a tower.
the sun is rising VERTICALLY from east and sets VERTICALLY to west.
it is possible to get this situation right?

so now:

if I'm on the beach surface and the sun is just showing up from the sea
and if I go up my tower to n- floor I will see the sun full raised up above the surface.
and if i go down on the beach the sun is again rising
same thing for the sunset....

so explain to me Please How is it possible the sun to be under the horizon while I'm on the beach and above the horizon in some meters above the surface?

so the point is that the sun is not getting smaller when it sets, but it goes UNDER the horizon!
or so it seams ...



here I have some questions:

2. Is the flat earth in this model spins around the north pole?
3. Is the north axis of the disc rotating ( I mean so the surface will be tilted in different direction )
or the point is that the earth is the center of THE ALL and is unmovable ?
 
 

I've already covered this in detal, http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=39241.0 please search the forums before asking such questions in future....

Epic fail, please try again.

And when you are done, go into a dark room with a flat round table and shine a flashlight horizontally across the table to understand your failure here. And see if you can do that while keeping your flashlight in a high noon position to another observer across the table. When it comes to math, you might realize how epically a fail the FET is in this regard.

What a fantastically simple and intelligent way of putting it TheJackel 

Quote from: TheJackel on August 18, 2010, 02:44:10 PM

Quote from: three-dimensional-world on August 18, 2010, 01:43:45 PM

Quote from: s3d on August 18, 2010, 12:55:13 PM

Q: "Please explain sunrises and sunsets."

A: It is a perspective effect. The sun is just getting farther away: it looks like it is disappearing because everything gets smaller, and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.



please explain a bit clearer ...

(sorry my English is no-good)

let me image a picture:
I'm on an island, and there is water all around me.
on this island i have a tower.
the sun is rising VERTICALLY from east and sets VERTICALLY to west.
it is possible to get this situation right?

so now:

if I'm on the beach surface and the sun is just showing up from the sea
and if I go up my tower to n- floor I will see the sun full raised up above the surface.
and if i go down on the beach the sun is again rising
same thing for the sunset....

so explain to me Please How is it possible the sun to be under the horizon while I'm on the beach and above the horizon in some meters above the surface?

so the point is that the sun is not getting smaller when it sets, but it goes UNDER the horizon!
or so it seams ...



here I have some questions:

2. Is the flat earth in this model spins around the north pole?
3. Is the north axis of the disc rotating ( I mean so the surface will be tilted in different direction )
or the point is that the earth is the center of THE ALL and is unmovable ?
 
 

I've already covered this in detal, http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=39241.0 please search the forums before asking such questions in future....

Epic fail, please try again.

And when you are done, go into a dark room with a flat round table and shine a flashlight horizontally across the table to understand your failure here. And see if you can do that while keeping your flashlight in a high noon position to another observer across the table. When it comes to math, you might realize how epically a fail the FET is in this regard.

What a fantastically simple and intelligent way of putting it TheJackel 

This guy is utterly confused (And so are you), I'll explain why:

First of all looking at a a flat round table from a human point of view is completely totally different from looking at it as if you were a bug on the table (which is what we are like with respect to the earth.. tiny bugs).

Secondly it's not high noon in the image at all, it's sunset (or sunrise) which is the most opposite time from high noon possible!

And then you said something about math? This is an experiment you are describing, not math at all so you don't even know what math is.

I would really recommend that you stop being so closed minded and approaching all flat earth theories with arrogance because if you continue to do that you are going to make a fool of yourself, again.

Quote from: three-dimensional-world on August 22, 2010, 11:27:28 AM

Quote from: LyingTruth on August 22, 2010, 10:13:40 AM

Quote from: TheJackel on August 18, 2010, 02:44:10 PM

Quote from: three-dimensional-world on August 18, 2010, 01:43:45 PM

Quote from: s3d on August 18, 2010, 12:55:13 PM

Q: "Please explain sunrises and sunsets."

A: It is a perspective effect. The sun is just getting farther away: it looks like it is disappearing because everything gets smaller, and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.



please explain a bit clearer ...

(sorry my English is no-good)

let me image a picture:
I'm on an island, and there is water all around me.
on this island i have a tower.
the sun is rising VERTICALLY from east and sets VERTICALLY to west.
it is possible to get this situation right?

so now:

if I'm on the beach surface and the sun is just showing up from the sea
and if I go up my tower to n- floor I will see the sun full raised up above the surface.
and if i go down on the beach the sun is again rising
same thing for the sunset....

so explain to me Please How is it possible the sun to be under the horizon while I'm on the beach and above the horizon in some meters above the surface?

so the point is that the sun is not getting smaller when it sets, but it goes UNDER the horizon!
or so it seams ...



here I have some questions:

2. Is the flat earth in this model spins around the north pole?
3. Is the north axis of the disc rotating ( I mean so the surface will be tilted in different direction )
or the point is that the earth is the center of THE ALL and is unmovable ?
 
 

I've already covered this in detal, http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=39241.0 please search the forums before asking such questions in future....

Epic fail, please try again.

And when you are done, go into a dark room with a flat round table and shine a flashlight horizontally across the table to understand your failure here. And see if you can do that while keeping your flashlight in a high noon position to another observer across the table. When it comes to math, you might realize how epically a fail the FET is in this regard.

What a fantastically simple and intelligent way of putting it TheJackel 

This guy is utterly confused (And so are you), I'll explain why:

First of all looking at a a flat round table from a human point of view is completely totally different from looking at it as if you were a bug on the table (which is what we are like with respect to the earth.. tiny bugs).

Secondly it's not high noon in the image at all, it's sunset (or sunrise) which is the most opposite time from high noon possible!

And then you said something about math? This is an experiment you are describing, not math at all so you don't even know what math is.

I would really recommend that you stop being so closed minded and approaching all flat earth theories with arrogance because if you continue to do that you are going to make a fool of yourself, again.

OMG, I cannot help you!
See your local shrink for more in depth analysis 

I don't consider making light of mental health problems funny

Quote from: LyingTruth on August 22, 2010, 11:53:26 AM

OMG, I cannot help you!
See your local shrink for more in depth analysis 

I don't consider making light of mental health problems funny

I don't see that he was making light of anything. You just may not recognize sage advice when you see it.

Quote from: LyingTruth on August 22, 2010, 10:13:40 AM

Quote from: TheJackel on August 18, 2010, 02:44:10 PM

Quote from: three-dimensional-world on August 18, 2010, 01:43:45 PM

Quote from: s3d on August 18, 2010, 12:55:13 PM

Q: "Please explain sunrises and sunsets."

A: It is a perspective effect. The sun is just getting farther away: it looks like it is disappearing because everything gets smaller, and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.



please explain a bit clearer ...

(sorry my English is no-good)

let me image a picture:
I'm on an island, and there is water all around me.
on this island i have a tower.
the sun is rising VERTICALLY from east and sets VERTICALLY to west.
it is possible to get this situation right?

so now:

if I'm on the beach surface and the sun is just showing up from the sea
and if I go up my tower to n- floor I will see the sun full raised up above the surface.
and if i go down on the beach the sun is again rising
same thing for the sunset....

so explain to me Please How is it possible the sun to be under the horizon while I'm on the beach and above the horizon in some meters above the surface?

so the point is that the sun is not getting smaller when it sets, but it goes UNDER the horizon!
or so it seams ...



here I have some questions:

2. Is the flat earth in this model spins around the north pole?
3. Is the north axis of the disc rotating ( I mean so the surface will be tilted in different direction )
or the point is that the earth is the center of THE ALL and is unmovable ?
 
 

I've already covered this in detal, http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=39241.0 please search the forums before asking such questions in future....

Epic fail, please try again.

And when you are done, go into a dark room with a flat round table and shine a flashlight horizontally across the table to understand your failure here. And see if you can do that while keeping your flashlight in a high noon position to another observer across the table. When it comes to math, you might realize how epically a fail the FET is in this regard.

What a fantastically simple and intelligent way of putting it TheJackel 

This guy is utterly confused (And so are you), I'll explain why:

First of all looking at a a flat round table from a human point of view is completely totally different from looking at it as if you were a bug on the table (which is what we are like with respect to the earth.. tiny bugs).

Secondly it's not high noon in the image at all, it's sunset (or sunrise) which is the most opposite time from high noon possible!

And then you said something about math? This is an experiment you are describing, not math at all so you don't even know what math is.

I would really recommend that you stop being so closed minded and approaching all flat earth theories with arrogance because if you continue to do that you are going to make a fool of yourself, again.

This is what we call fail 2.0.. And you obviously have no understanding of math to understand why it would indeed be mathematically impossible.. You might want to look into angular points of view, and how that translates in terms of mathematics. Geometry for example can be your friend here too.  The rest of your post was entirely nonsensical.

here is one other question:

why is the sun Circle-like at sunrise at noon and at sunset
if it was a spotlight shod it be a Ellipse-like at sunrise/sunset ?

here is one other question:

why is the sun Circle-like at sunrise at noon and at sunset
if it was a spotlight shod it be a Ellipse-like at sunrise/sunset ?

FEers say things like "Bendy Light" and some kind of lensing effect based on the intensity and atmosphere density.

Quote from: OmgHAI on August 18, 2010, 01:45:18 PM

Not denying they can't explain sunsets/sunrises but your post was still irrelevant

Not irrelevant to point out that they can not explain sunsets/sunrises.

*sigh* We explain sunsets/sunrises all the time. Just because you do not accept our explanations as true does not make them any less of an explanation.

Quote from: Horatio on August 18, 2010, 04:24:05 PM

Quote from: OmgHAI on August 18, 2010, 01:45:18 PM

Not denying they can't explain sunsets/sunrises but your post was still irrelevant

Not irrelevant to point out that they can not explain sunsets/sunrises.

*sigh* We explain sunsets/sunrises all the time. Just because you do not accept our explanations as true does not make them any less of an explanation.

Wrong. How well your explanations are accepted is a great metric of how strong it is.

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on August 23, 2010, 11:28:24 AM

Quote from: Horatio on August 18, 2010, 04:24:05 PM

Quote from: OmgHAI on August 18, 2010, 01:45:18 PM

Not denying they can't explain sunsets/sunrises but your post was still irrelevant

Not irrelevant to point out that they can not explain sunsets/sunrises.

*sigh* We explain sunsets/sunrises all the time. Just because you do not accept our explanations as true does not make them any less of an explanation.

Wrong. How well your explanations are accepted is a great metric of how strong it is.

You should tell that to Copernicus.

Quote from: ClockTower on August 23, 2010, 11:44:33 AM

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Quote from: OmgHAI on August 18, 2010, 01:45:18 PM

Not denying they can't explain sunsets/sunrises but your post was still irrelevant

Not irrelevant to point out that they can not explain sunsets/sunrises.

*sigh* We explain sunsets/sunrises all the time. Just because you do not accept our explanations as true does not make them any less of an explanation.

Wrong. How well your explanations are accepted is a great metric of how strong it is.

You should tell that to Copernicus.

I think he already knows, but thanks for the great example.