Obama hates black people.

FIXING ELECTIONS

The loss of William Jefferson's congressional seat in 2008 was the clinchpin in the loss of black political power in the racist politics of post-Katrina New Orleans.

Jefferson's district was overwhelmingly black, and he usually won handily, but he was defeated in late 2008 by a Republican by only a few hundred votes.  This familiar phenomenon of a right-wing victory by an extremely narrow margin in an region where the right has no backing occurs very often in corrupt Latin American dictatorships.  Currently, every latin american country has a left-of-centre government with the exception of:

1)  Mexico where (about five years ago) Calderon defeated the PRD (socialist) candidate by less than 1%.  It is virtually unreported in america, but the Mexican mafia just murdered the current PRD candidate who was well ahead in the polls.  The implication is that the right uses the mafia to do its dirty work.  (PAN represents the unfortunate reascension of the vatican in Mexican politics.)

2) Columbia which is the most corrupt goverment in the "americas." 

3) Peru elected its first indigenous leader since the Inca king Tupac Amaru, but the problem is that he is a proverbial uncle tom - a sellout.

4) Honduras where the elected president was removed in a CIA backed coup, and now has a nationwide anti-government movement.

The right is not popular - so it uses other means to have the power to control people.  William Jefferson's election was fixed.  As far as that goes, Jesse Ventura has shown that Bush was never elected president of the United States.  The populist 'American Free Press' newspaper has given details of how Kerry actually won the 2004 american presidential election.  We all already know that Gore won in 2000.

New Orleans former mayor Ray Nagin was an ally of Councilman Jim Singleton.  These were the oreos - black sellouts.  Their enemies were the allies of William Jefferson and Marc Morial - son of New Orleans first black mayor who is now the head of the National Urban League, one of the principle civil rights organizations in black history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Morial

Morial had to leave New Orleans or they would have sought to put him in prison as well.  The leaders of black churches are the hard core of leadership of black people in southeast Louisiana.  I have noticed that black people (at least down here) tend to have more faith as a whole than white people.  Most black people here on a Lord's day do go to church, and wear their best clothes - an indication that they take it seriously.  Far fewer whites go to church - not a significant part of the whole.

New Orleans now has a white mayor again for the first time since the 1970's.  What do we need another white mayor for?  We just had one for the past eight years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Nagin

Dwayne Michael Carter (now serving an obviously politically motivated prison sentence) on Katrina:

FIXING ELECTIONS

The loss of William Jefferson's congressional seat in 2008 was the clinchpin in the loss of black political power in the racist politics of post-Katrina New Orleans.

Jefferson's district was overwhelmingly black, and he usually won handily, but he was defeated in late 2008 by a Republican by only a few hundred votes.  This familiar phenomenon of a right-wing victory by an extremely narrow margin in an region where the right has no backing occurs very often in corrupt Latin American dictatorships.  Currently, every latin american country has a left-of-centre government with the exception of:

1)  Mexico where (about five years ago) Calderon defeated the PRD (socialist) candidate by less than 1%.  It is virtually unreported in america, but the Mexican mafia just murdered the current PRD candidate who was well ahead in the polls.  The implication is that the right uses the mafia to do its dirty work.  (PAN represents the unfortunate reascension of the vatican in Mexican politics.)

2) Columbia which is the most corrupt goverment in the "americas." 

3) Peru elected its first indigenous leader since the Inca king Tupac Amaru, but the problem is that he is a proverbial uncle tom - a sellout.

4) Honduras where the elected president was removed in a CIA backed coup, and now has a nationwide anti-government movement.

The right is not popular - so it uses other means to have the power to control people.  William Jefferson's election was fixed.  As far as that goes, Jesse Ventura has shown that Bush was never elected president of the United States.  The populist 'American Free Press' newspaper has given details of how Kerry actually won the 2004 american presidential election.  We all already know that Gore won in 2000.

New Orleans former mayor Ray Nagin was an ally of Councilman Jim Singleton.  These were the oreos - black sellouts.  Their enemies were the allies of William Jefferson and Marc Morial - son of New Orleans first black mayor who is now the head of the National Urban League, one of the principle civil rights organizations in black history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Morial

Morial had to leave New Orleans or they would have sought to put him in prison as well.  The leaders of black churches are the hard core of leadership of black people in southeast Louisiana.  I have noticed that black people (at least down here) tend to have more faith as a whole than white people.  Most black people here on a Lord's day do go to church, and wear their best clothes - an indication that they take it seriously.  Far fewer whites go to church - not a significant part of the whole.

New Orleans now has a white mayor again for the first time since the 1970's.  What do we need another white mayor for?  We just had one for the past eight years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Nagin

Dwayne Michael Carter (now serving an obviously politically motivated prison sentence) on Katrina:

Jesus H Christ, where does this automaton come up with all this bullshit copypasta tl;dr?

where does this automaton come up with all this bullshit copypasta tl;dr?

Your tone indicates that you admire the people I criticize, but
you can ask your question in a nicer way or be quiet or get reported. 
Your attitude indicates to me that you like ignorance and conditioned thinking over knowledge and reflection.


Anyway, the answer to your question is as follows:

I did not copy this material from anywhere.  I wrote all of it today.

For the information on New Orleans, as I said earlier, I have lived in New Orleans since the 1970's.

For the brief bit about Latin american politics, the gist of it is derived from the introduction to 'Mexico's Hope' by James Cockroft.  Only the bit about Honduras is not mentioned by him because that coup occurred after his book was published.  'The Nation' carries articles on it frequently, and I also hear about it from the Hondurans I work with on the farm in Plaquemines parish.  The New Orleans area has had a lot of latinos enter the area since Katrina largely because they are willing to work.

Mexico's Hope
http://www.monthlyreview.org/books/mexicoshope.php

Quote from: parsec on July 13, 2010, 09:48:44 PM

where does this automaton come up with all this bullshit copypasta tl;dr?

Your tone indicates that you admire the people I criticize, but
you can ask your question in a nicer way or be quiet or get reported. 
Your attitude indicates to me that you like ignorance and conditioned thinking over knowledge and reflection.


Anyway, the answer to your question is as follows:

I did not copy this material from anywhere.  I wrote all of it today.

For the information on New Orleans, as I said earlier, I have lived in New Orleans since the 1970's.

For the brief bit about Latin american politics, the gist of it is derived from the introduction to 'Mexico's Hope' by James Cockroft.  Only the bit about Honduras is not mentioned by him because that coup occurred after his book was published.  'The Nation' carries articles on it frequently, and I also hear about it from the Hondurans I work with on the farm in Plaquemines parish.  The New Orleans area has had a lot of latinos enter the area since Katrina largely because they are willing to work.

Mexico's Hope
http://www.monthlyreview.org/books/mexicoshope.php

Eat horse manure. You are the one spamming the serious fora with unrelated stuff. If you find some logical connection between your links and the topic at hand, please visit a soul asylum.

Eat horse manure.

DO NOT use insulting or denigrating personal attacks against other members.

You have been reported.

You are the one spamming the serious fora with unrelated stuff.

That is false.  This thread is about Obama's hatred of black people, and I have shown that a few sellouts such as Obama himself have thrived while most blacks have suffered.

If you find some logical connection between your links and the topic at hand..

Such as this one for example:

Quote from: parsec

You are the one spamming the serious fora with unrelated stuff.

That is false.  This thread is about Obama's hatred of black people, and I have shown that a few sellouts such as Obama himself have thrived while most blacks have suffered.

This actually brings up a good point.  His wife spoke at the NAACP the other day, talking about how black people are suffering the worst during the current recession.  I guess no other colored people are suffering during the recession.  You would think the First Lady of the United States would be concerned about all the children in the nation....not just the black ones.

It makes me mad that they think there is a color separation for suffering "during the recession". Everyone in the lower income bracket has had to tighten their belts.

It makes me mad that they think there is a color separation for suffering "during the recession". Everyone in the lower income bracket has had to tighten their belts.

Mad enough to vote them out??

http://www.blowoutcongress.com/

And then you can vote the current administration out fully come 2012!!!  Yipppeee!!!

Right, and replace them with whom? Do you actually think voting out the Congress would do any good?

In exchange for what?  This?

Or worse, this:

Right, and replace them with whom? Do you actually think voting out the Congress would do any good?

I dont know your district...but with a little research i bet you could find a candidate you like.

Yes i think if congress starts to be held accountable for their actions there is a good chance we can take back this country.

Who has the country?

Who has the country?

Socialists.  People that think the founding fathers were idiots.  Corrupt politicians.  Liberals.  Far left leaning democrats.  People that want federal money to pay for abortions.  People that think its ok to be in this country illegally.  People that don't recognize that a country without borders, isn't a country at all.  People that think putting this country further into debt is whats needed for the economy instead of spending cuts.  People that think its ok to have a nanny state.  A president that just doesn't know how to lead.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 14, 2010, 04:49:28 PM

Who has the country?

Socialists.  People that think the founding fathers were idiots.  Corrupt politicians.  Liberals.  Far left leaning democrats.  People that want federal money to pay for abortions.  People that think its ok to be in this country illegally.  People that don't recognize that a country without borders, isn't a country at all.  People that think putting this country further into debt is whats needed for the economy instead of spending cuts.  People that think its ok to have a nanny state.  A president that just doesn't know how to lead.

You are dumb and you post dumb things. What, according to you, should "federal money" be spent on? The military?

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on July 14, 2010, 08:31:10 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 14, 2010, 04:49:28 PM

Who has the country?

Socialists.  People that think the founding fathers were idiots.  Corrupt politicians.  Liberals.  Far left leaning democrats.  People that want federal money to pay for abortions.  People that think its ok to be in this country illegally.  People that don't recognize that a country without borders, isn't a country at all.  People that think putting this country further into debt is whats needed for the economy instead of spending cuts.  People that think its ok to have a nanny state.  A president that just doesn't know how to lead.

You are dumb and you post dumb things. What, according to you, should "federal money" be spent on? The military?

You are douche and post things that smell like vinegar.  You are asking the wrong question.  I think the goverment should spend less money, that includes some of the spending in the military.  I have seen so much money wasted on programs in the military, its almost disgraceful.  But the military is just a small piece of the overspending problem.  Smaller federal government is what we need.  More focus.

Quote from: parsec on July 14, 2010, 08:33:30 PM

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on July 14, 2010, 08:31:10 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 14, 2010, 04:49:28 PM

Who has the country?

Socialists.  People that think the founding fathers were idiots.  Corrupt politicians.  Liberals.  Far left leaning democrats.  People that want federal money to pay for abortions.  People that think its ok to be in this country illegally.  People that don't recognize that a country without borders, isn't a country at all.  People that think putting this country further into debt is whats needed for the economy instead of spending cuts.  People that think its ok to have a nanny state.  A president that just doesn't know how to lead.

You are dumb and you post dumb things. What, according to you, should "federal money" be spent on? The military?

You are douche and post things that smell like vinegar.  You are asking the wrong question.  I think the goverment should spend less money, that includes some of the spending in the military.  I have seen so much money wasted on programs in the military, its almost disgraceful.  But the military is just a small piece of the overspending problem.  Smaller federal government is what we need.  More focus.

We spend more on Defense than anyone.

Military spending is  HUGE part of overspending.



Corpocracy. That is what is wrong with America, as much as any liberal vs. conservative bickering is.

The only real way to take back the country is to have some giant grassroots movement, and get every seat up for reelection taken by a third party. Otherwise, we are going to have the same people working under the same platforms.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 14, 2010, 04:49:28 PM

Who has the country?

Socialists.  People that think the founding fathers were idiots.  Corrupt politicians.  Liberals.  Far left leaning democrats.  People that want federal money to pay for abortions.  People that think its ok to be in this country illegally.  People that don't recognize that a country without borders, isn't a country at all.  People that think putting this country further into debt is whats needed for the economy instead of spending cuts.  People that think its ok to have a nanny state.  A president that just doesn't know how to lead.

OMG.. I sill love you Wardogg, even when you quote Glenn Beck!

Do you honestly believe that the conservatives don't waste piles of money on bullshit? That the conservatives don't have their own version of a nanny state? When the democrats are in power the republicans always start hammering away with nanny state rhetoric, because they want to win back the seats they lost.  They fear-monger their way back into power. Neither party wants what is good for the country, they only want what is good for their reelection. Both parties pander to their base. Both parties take bribes from wealthy lobbies.

Who wants federal money to pay for abortions? The health care bill will only provide funding for abortions in the cases of rape, incest, and when the life of the pregnant woman is in jeopardy.  I understand that you have moral objections to abortion, but come on.. you really think that a woman having an abortion under those circumstances is immoral? And if you do, if you'd rather a woman die than have an abortion then I don't know what to say to you. 

Who thinks that it is OK to be in this country illegally? Objecting to the Arizona law isn't the same as being pro illegal immigrant.

Name an administration that hasn't put this country deeper in debt. If the current congress is voted out, and completely replaced, you think they won't also put us further into debt? I think the country would be better served if congress had term limits (I imagine pigs will fly before that happens). I also think the country would be better served if members of Congress weren't allowed to add earmarks and riders that don't have anything to do with the bill under discussion.  Or if not that, then whichever congressman added the earmark has to be identified.  Too much goes on under the guise of "national security".

Name an administration that hasn't put this country deeper in debt. If the current congress is voted out, and completely replaced, you think they won't also put us further into debt? I think the country would be better served if congress had term limits (I imagine pigs will fly before that happens). I also think the country would be better served if members of Congress weren't allowed to add earmarks and riders that don't have anything to do with the bill under discussion.  Or if not that, then whichever congressman added the earmark has to be identified.  Too much goes on under the guise of "national security".

This!

Quote from: parsec on July 14, 2010, 08:33:30 PM

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on July 14, 2010, 08:31:10 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 14, 2010, 04:49:28 PM

Who has the country?

Socialists.  People that think the founding fathers were idiots.  Corrupt politicians.  Liberals.  Far left leaning democrats.  People that want federal money to pay for abortions.  People that think its ok to be in this country illegally.  People that don't recognize that a country without borders, isn't a country at all.  People that think putting this country further into debt is whats needed for the economy instead of spending cuts.  People that think its ok to have a nanny state.  A president that just doesn't know how to lead.

You are dumb and you post dumb things. What, according to you, should "federal money" be spent on? The military?

But the military is just a small piece of the overspending problem.  Smaller federal government is what we need.  More focus.

I guess one quarter is small. 

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 14, 2010, 04:49:28 PM

Who has the country?

Socialists.  People that think the founding fathers were idiots.  Corrupt politicians.  Liberals.  Far left leaning democrats.  People that want federal money to pay for abortions.  People that think its ok to be in this country illegally.  People that don't recognize that a country without borders, isn't a country at all.  People that think putting this country further into debt is whats needed for the economy instead of spending cuts.  People that think its ok to have a nanny state.  A president that just doesn't know how to lead.

Space Cowgirl was witty to ask Wardog this as well as her point about everyone in lower income brackets sufferring.  Wardog and I technically agree on the subject of your post, but I now see that we are very far apart all things considered.  In spite of the fact that parsec has been so rude towards me (why I don't know   ), I probably agree with him on more issues than I do with Wardog.

I am critical of Obama, but Wardog seeks to replace Obama with an essentially Bush style administration again.  A fool is born evey minute.  How many times do one have to be hit over the head to realize that both major parties are controlled by the same wealthy families who share power as a ruling class?  And Obama is not a leftist (I wish he was).  He is a centrist at best.

And voting is futile.  Not only are elections fixed, but voting both recognizes an illigetimate system, exclusively informs an information gathering police state of one's own political bias, and wastes time.  It is a circus little different from soviets voting under Stalin's system in Russia.

Vote him out and take the country back?!  Get a life with vision because you believe in a phony system which uses people like you to survive.

Who wants federal money to pay for abortions? The health care bill will only provide funding for abortions in the cases of rape, incest, and when the life of the pregnant woman is in jeopardy.  I understand that you have moral objections to abortion, but come on.. you really think that a woman having an abortion under those circumstances is immoral? And if you do, if you'd rather a woman die than have an abortion then I don't know what to say to you.

Good point.  The point on abortion was one of the few cases in which I would have agreed with him, but what you have said is sincere and reasonable.  

I did not know that about that aspect of the health care bill (, but I knew that Dennis Kucinich was right about choosing to support the health bill.    I think that the false image of a cool left wing liberal that Bill Clinton imitates is what Kucinich is in real life.  That is why Hillary hates him so much.  That's why Kucinich was making out with his wife during a Democrat Presidential Debate, but Bill Clinton will make out with just about ANYONE (male or female) except for his wife.)

Who wants federal money to pay for abortions? The health care bill will only provide funding for abortions in the cases of rape, incest, and when the life of the pregnant woman is in jeopardy.  I understand that you have moral objections to abortion, but come on.. you really think that a woman having an abortion under those circumstances is immoral? And if you do, if you'd rather a woman die than have an abortion then I don't know what to say to you. 
 

Laugh at the source all you want.  The words are the truth.  You can research your own source if you would like.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,596925,00.html

Quote from: Benocrates on June 03, 2010, 08:17:20 AM

This topic is bullshit gibberish, nothing is being said...

Isnt the comparsion the same?

Katrina came through, devastated the coastal Louisianans, Bush did nothing and was called a racist.

BP mucks up the Gulf, devastating the coastal Louisianans, Obama does nothing so he must hate black people.

You cannot deny the correlation. 

It was the governments job to protect its citizens in the case of natural disaster.
It is not the governments job to fix a mistake caused at the bottom of the ocean by an oil company.
What could we have done?

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 15, 2010, 08:35:52 AM

Who wants federal money to pay for abortions? The health care bill will only provide funding for abortions in the cases of rape, incest, and when the life of the pregnant woman is in jeopardy.  I understand that you have moral objections to abortion, but come on.. you really think that a woman having an abortion under those circumstances is immoral? And if you do, if you'd rather a woman die than have an abortion then I don't know what to say to you. 
 

Laugh at the source all you want.  The words are the truth.  You can research your own source if you would like.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,596925,00.html

All I can find are right-wing sources for your argument. I'll get back to you when there are some options.

I am absolutely delighted to see so much skepticism and cynicism about party politics and its aims in this thread. FES genuinely has one of the coolest memberbases around. I <3 you guys.


Anyway, I think that notions like 'taking the country' back are politically naive at best. As SCG has said, the focus of any party in a modern western democracy is re-election. The hypocrisy of many politicians with supposedly 'strong views' on certain issues has been exposed time and time again, so to continue to believe that they are genuinely 'representing' you (as opposed to garnering your favour) is just foolish.


While doing some re-reading of Plato and Aristotle in the last year, I have been struck time and time again by their analysis of democracy, and how often their criticisms strike true. Yes, there are huge differences in terms of the cultural, social, economic and even political contexts, but in truth the latter-day demagogue is largely equivalent to the modern-day political party.


It's also important to remember that in any country with large geographic, economic, cultural and social differences (such as the United States), a compromised politics is inevitably the best that can be hoped for by any given faction or group. I find it disheartening to see so many Republicans trying to take 'their' country back, as if your right to be considered an American was ideologically determined. Although I have no end of criticism for the government and politics of this country, one thing I like about Ireland is that no political group or faction tries to lay claim to Irish identity to the exclusion of any other. Even the murder-gang at Sinn Fein don't try and pretend that Fine Fail/Gael supportes are somehow 'un-Irish'.

I counter Wardogg's extreme right wing insanity with some extreme left wing insanity! http://www.aclu.org/reproductive-freedom/obama-administration-will-ban-abortion-coverage-high-risk-insurance-pools

I counter Wardogg's extreme right wing insanity with some extreme left wing insanity! http://www.aclu.org/reproductive-freedom/obama-administration-will-ban-abortion-coverage-high-risk-insurance-pools

Ahh it looks like GB may have jumped the gun in his reporting....or did they think we just weren't watching....makes you wonder.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/19/abortion-foes-score-victory-obamas-health-law/

Glenn Beck isn't a reporter, and who is "they"?  The health care bill was never meant to fund elective abortions.  If there was a technical loophole that the states were trying to use, then I guess the "they" you are referring to are the states?