Use Yer Eyes...

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Use Yer Eyes...
« on: March 03, 2010, 09:37:20 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8547114.stm

Somehow, I don't expect a simple photo to convince any diehards...but it just irks me how people can seriously believe the Earth is flat...in much the same way as it irks me how people can seriously believe Rush Limbaugh talks sense...

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2010, 09:49:26 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8547114.stm

Somehow, I don't expect a simple photo to convince any diehards...but it just irks me how people can seriously believe the Earth is flat...in much the same way as it irks me how people can seriously believe Rush Limbaugh talks sense...

I find it odd that most people hate in others what they hate most in themselves. You obviously hate republicans. The main trait I have found in conservatives is their unwillingness to see things in any way except the way they currently see them. You have now come to a FE website to tell us all how wrong we are without even considering the possibility of us being correct.

Do you feel like you hate yourself a little less after posting this, or a little more?

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2010, 09:58:32 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8547114.stm

Somehow, I don't expect a simple photo to convince any diehards...but it just irks me how people can seriously believe the Earth is flat...in much the same way as it irks me how people can seriously believe Rush Limbaugh talks sense...

Hmmm not sure why a picture that really isn't a photo actually proves anything....

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Credit NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Image. Enhancements by Robert Simmon (ocean color, compositing, 3D globes, animation).

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This spectacular ?blue marble? image is the most detailed true-color image of the entire Earth to date. Using a collection of satellite-based observations, scientists and visualizers stitched together months of observations of the land surface, oceans, sea ice, and clouds into a seamless, true-color mosaic of every square kilometer (.386 square mile) of our planet.


Sure sounds like a computer generated picture to me.  Very pretty, but so is this.



and this....




OMG! Coruscant and Naboo exist!!!!!  I have proof!

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2010, 10:00:09 AM »
How many people would have to be in on The Conspiracy (see, I gave it caps)  :) if it were really true?

I chose the Limbaugh comparison merely to demonstrate the kind of puzzled bemusement with which I regard people who believe the Earth is flat, tis all...I'm not disagreeing with your right to believe whatever you want, I just find it endlessly, curiously fascinating...

How do people come to believe such a thing? It's obvious how people come to believe the Earth is round; it is, after all, the accepted "normal" belief...but such a huge huge deviation from the facts...how do you come to arrive at such a worldview?

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2010, 10:01:40 AM »
OK, so this is another lie...

"The images of the Indian Ocean and North America were produced by astronomers at  Nasa's Goddard Space Flight Center using images from the Terra satellite more than 435 miles (700km) above the Earth's surface."

Do you sometimes find yourself doubting literally everything you get told? Have you ever met an airline pilot?

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2010, 10:02:45 AM »
Have you ever met an airline pilot?

Lurk moar, some of us fly for a living.

On a side note do you deny Naboo existing?  I showed the same proof you did.

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2010, 10:05:09 AM »
And yet you didn't tell me the source of the picture, whereas I did...

Poles...precession of the equinoxes...the life's work of Patrick Moore...  :)

On another side note, do you believe Mars exists? Do you believe it's also flat?

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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2010, 10:06:06 AM »
And yet you didn't tell me the source of the picture, whereas I did...

Poles...precession of the equinoxes...the life's work of Patrick Moore...  :)

On another side note, do you believe Mars exists? Do you believe it's also flat?

My picture of Naboo is a NASA photo.  Does that make it proof?

Yes Mars exists, no its not flat.

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2010, 10:08:34 AM »
Considering you told me it was CG before posting it...hmmm, let me think...and how do you know Mars exists, by the way? I'm guessing through a NASA pic?  ;)

OK, I'm getting a more accurate picture of your world view...is Earth the only flat planet then? How would that lack of uniformity in our solar system be explained?

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2010, 10:09:44 AM »
And yet you didn't tell me the source of the picture, whereas I did...

Poles...precession of the equinoxes...the life's work of Patrick Moore...  :)

On another side note, do you believe Mars exists? Do you believe it's also flat?

My picture of Naboo is a NASA photo.  Does that make it proof?

Yes Mars exists, no its not flat.

Then why for the love of god is it affected by gravity while earth isn't???
It was Tom Bishop that said those ridiculous things, he is the ultimate foe in regards to FE trolls.

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2010, 10:15:52 AM »
Well it's been pleasant killing time while I wait for my ladyfriend to come round but I must leave you now...happy discussions... :)

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2010, 10:20:00 AM »
Considering you told me it was CG before posting it...hmmm, let me think...and how do you know Mars exists, by the way? I'm guessing through a NASA pic?  ;)

OK, I'm getting a more accurate picture of your world view...is Earth the only flat planet then? How would that lack of uniformity in our solar system be explained?

You can observe Mars for yourself through a telescope...no NASA needed.


And yet you didn't tell me the source of the picture, whereas I did...

Poles...precession of the equinoxes...the life's work of Patrick Moore...  :)

On another side note, do you believe Mars exists? Do you believe it's also flat?

My picture of Naboo is a NASA photo.  Does that make it proof?

Yes Mars exists, no its not flat.

Then why for the love of god is it affected by gravity while earth isn't???

You mean gravitational forces?  There is a whole topic on it.  If you wish to read it you can use the search function to find it.

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2010, 11:08:50 AM »
Considering you told me it was CG before posting it...hmmm, let me think...and how do you know Mars exists, by the way? I'm guessing through a NASA pic?  ;)

OK, I'm getting a more accurate picture of your world view...is Earth the only flat planet then? How would that lack of uniformity in our solar system be explained?

You can observe Mars for yourself through a telescope...no NASA needed.


And yet you didn't tell me the source of the picture, whereas I did...

Poles...precession of the equinoxes...the life's work of Patrick Moore...  :)

On another side note, do you believe Mars exists? Do you believe it's also flat?

My picture of Naboo is a NASA photo.  Does that make it proof?

Yes Mars exists, no its not flat.

Then why for the love of god is it affected by gravity while earth isn't???

You mean gravitational forces?  There is a whole topic on it.  If you wish to read it you can use the search function to find it.

No. It being round is evidence that it is affected by it's own gravity. So why is earth not affected by the same mechanism? Instead the FE model uses constant acceleration to explain it. (then it uses dark energy to explain that). Each explanation is more baseless than the last.
It was Tom Bishop that said those ridiculous things, he is the ultimate foe in regards to FE trolls.

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2010, 11:10:34 AM »
How many people would have to be in on The Conspiracy (see, I gave it caps)  :) if it were really true?

I chose the Limbaugh comparison merely to demonstrate the kind of puzzled bemusement with which I regard people who believe the Earth is flat, tis all...I'm not disagreeing with your right to believe whatever you want, I just find it endlessly, curiously fascinating...

How do people come to believe such a thing? It's obvious how people come to believe the Earth is round; it is, after all, the accepted "normal" belief...but such a huge huge deviation from the facts...how do you come to arrive at such a worldview?

How do you come to believe that that picture is of a globe when not even NASA will claim it is a photograph of the Earth?

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2010, 11:40:57 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8547114.stm

Somehow, I don't expect a simple photo to convince any diehards...but it just irks me how people can seriously believe the Earth is flat...in much the same way as it irks me how people can seriously believe Rush Limbaugh talks sense...
How many more noobs are going to post this same photo... I think this is like the hundreth time I have seen it this week
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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2010, 12:05:57 PM »
OMG! Coruscant and Naboo exist!!!!!  I have proof!

OMG! No one seriously claims Naboo or Coruscant are real!!! We know who produced those images! We know they're artificial!

Fail less next time plox.
How do you know a round earth isn't artificial?

Point being: Don't take all images as wrote. Proof != "Look at this picture. See, I'm right"

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2010, 12:08:14 PM »
lol and he even put that quotre in monster fail... Fail harder next time
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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2010, 12:14:53 PM »
OMG! Coruscant and Naboo exist!!!!!  I have proof!

OMG! No one seriously claims Naboo or Coruscant are real!!! We know who produced those images! We know they're artificial!

Fail less next time plox.

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Credit NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Image. Enhancements by Robert Simmon (ocean color, compositing, 3D globes, animation).


and we know who made your pic too. We know it's artificial.

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2010, 12:42:14 PM »
Even the link you provided makes it quite clear this isn't a photograph.


www.rif.org


Also, moved.
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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2010, 02:01:05 PM »
Epic fail
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2010, 02:08:38 PM »
Considering you told me it was CG before posting it...hmmm, let me think...and how do you know Mars exists, by the way? I'm guessing through a NASA pic?  ;)

OK, I'm getting a more accurate picture of your world view...is Earth the only flat planet then? How would that lack of uniformity in our solar system be explained?

You can observe Mars for yourself through a telescope...no NASA needed.


I observed the ISS through a telescope by myself, without the aid of NASA... But no Flathead has told me how such a thing is possible...

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2010, 02:32:03 PM »
Name calling is so childish
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2010, 03:14:20 PM »
Considering you told me it was CG before posting it...hmmm, let me think...and how do you know Mars exists, by the way? I'm guessing through a NASA pic?  ;)

OK, I'm getting a more accurate picture of your world view...is Earth the only flat planet then? How would that lack of uniformity in our solar system be explained?

You can observe Mars for yourself through a telescope...no NASA needed.


I observed the ISS through a telescope by myself, without the aid of NASA... But no Flathead has told me how such a thing is possible...

Really you saw the actuall ISS?!?  Or you saw a bright white light moving across the sky.....The latter I'm sure.

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2010, 03:17:46 PM »
Typical round earth mentality.
This is further proof of just how easy it was to convince the simple minded people that the earth is a sphere..

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2010, 03:22:03 PM »
Really you saw the actuall ISS?!?  Or you saw a bright white light moving across the sky.....The latter I'm sure.

Nope many people here have seen not only a white light, but also identified its form. Many of them have been members here. You've been here how long now?

But anyway, even if they saw a white light, it's still the ISS; an object in the sky in a predicted location, moving in a predicted direction. *shrugs*
The ISS is most likely a repair and cleaning platform for the spotlight.


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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2010, 06:05:38 PM »
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and we know who made your pic too.

It's not my pic.

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We know it's artificial.

In what way is it artificial?

the same way the pic of naboo is artificial. A bunch of rendered images placed on a spherical computer model to form a "planet"

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2010, 06:11:04 PM »
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and we know who made your pic too.

It's not my pic.

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We know it's artificial.

In what way is it artificial?

the same way the pic of naboo is artificial. A bunch of rendered images placed on a spherical computer model to form a "planet"

for the first time ever the chicken and egg theory comes in handy

yay

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2010, 06:12:44 PM »
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and we know who made your pic too.

It's not my pic.

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We know it's artificial.

In what way is it artificial?

the same way the pic of naboo is artificial. A bunch of rendered images placed on a spherical computer model to form a "planet"

for the first time ever the chicken and egg theory comes in handy

yay

This has nothing to do with the chicken and the egg. Being vague doesn't make you right, it makes you stupid.

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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2010, 06:17:58 PM »
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and we know who made your pic too.

It's not my pic.

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We know it's artificial.

In what way is it artificial?

the same way the pic of naboo is artificial. A bunch of rendered images placed on a spherical computer model to form a "planet"

for the first time ever the chicken and egg theory comes in handy

yay

This has nothing to do with the chicken and the egg. Being vague doesn't make you right, it makes you stupid.

okay let me unvague it

pictures of naboo, hoth, tatooine, ork, melmac and all 13 colonies came out way after nasa snapped photos of a round earth, not the other way around


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Re: Use Yer Eyes...
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2010, 06:34:50 PM »
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We know it's artificial.

In what way is it artificial?
The actual links says it is. It says "Many photos strung together seamlessly". That means they made it out of lost of smaller photos and placed them on a model of a globe. It isn't a giant picture of earth.

I'm not saying it's fake, just that it isn't actually a photo of earth, even if it is round.