What powers the Sun?

Come on, simple question. What would provide enough energy for a disc 32 miles wide to shine for billions of years?

It is possible that the Sun is bioluminescent. I have been considering this possibility for quite some time. It strikes me that the Egyptian Atenists might have been onto something (and so might their opponents in the Priesthood of Ra have been).

um... what?
This can't be with the emmision spectrum of sun(near to black body radiation).
Also, any organic compound wouldn't be stable in that temperature and have luminescency properties.
Also, luminescency can not last for thousands of years.

um... what?
This can't be with the emmision spectrum of sun(near to black body radiation).
Also, any organic compound wouldn't be stable in that temperature and have luminescency properties.
Also, luminescency can not last for thousands of years.

You're making the mistake of equating life on Earth with life on the Sun. There is little reason to suspect that they would be even remotely the same sort of thing. Luminescency can perfectly well last for thousands of years, why couldn't it?

Quote from: Maxus on July 22, 2009, 01:17:42 PM

um... what?
This can't be with the emmision spectrum of sun(near to black body radiation).
Also, any organic compound wouldn't be stable in that temperature and have luminescency properties.
Also, luminescency can not last for thousands of years.

You're making the mistake of equating life on Earth with life on the Sun. There is little reason to suspect that they would be even remotely the same sort of thing. Luminescency can perfectly well last for thousands of years, why couldn't it?

What about the line spectra? Can your organisms explain that?

Edit: In fact, claiming bioluminescence does absolutely nothing to answer my question. My question was as to where the energy comes from. You still need energy for bioluminescence.

Also, does bioluminescence last for billions of years?

It is possible that the Sun is bioluminescent. I have been considering this possibility for quite some time. It strikes me that the Egyptian Atenists might have been onto something (and so might their opponents in the Priesthood of Ra have been).

So now the sun is a massive metallic disc that is also bioluminescent.

Metallic and biological eh. Fascinating science.

Lol, they're making new theories up on the spot. I have never seen anybody ever claim existence of a bioluminescent Sun before.

They can't come up with one definitive theory. How silly is that? Oh, and before you say that neither can RET, I'm pretty certain that RET doesn't have that many.

Quote from: James on July 22, 2009, 01:09:15 PM

It is possible that the Sun is bioluminescent. I have been considering this possibility for quite some time. It strikes me that the Egyptian Atenists might have been onto something (and so might their opponents in the Priesthood of Ra have been).

So now the sun is a massive metallic disc that is also bioluminescent.

Metallic and biological eh. Fascinating science.

A surface moldlike animal on what is mainly a metal object is far more likely than a big fat metal living thing.

Squat, they're making new theories up on the spot. I have never seen anybody ever claim existence of a bioluminescent Sun before.

I'm not just making this up, I've been carefully considering it for quite some time. This is the first time I have brought it to light (no Sun-pun intended).

Squat, they're making new theories up on the spot. I have never seen anybody ever claim existence of a bioluminescent Sun before.

For sure.

Change of username - change of theory.

A surface moldlike animal on what is mainly a metal object is far more likely than a big fat metal living thing.

Food source?

Reproduction?

Quote from: James on July 22, 2009, 01:37:34 PM

A surface moldlike animal on what is mainly a metal object is far more likely than a big fat metal living thing.

Food source?

Reproduction?

Well the Earth manages to have a closed system of biology, why wouldn't the Sun?

Quote from: Squat on July 22, 2009, 01:42:32 PM

Quote from: James on July 22, 2009, 01:37:34 PM

A surface moldlike animal on what is mainly a metal object is far more likely than a big fat metal living thing.

Food source?

Reproduction?

Well the Earth manages to have a closed system of biology, why wouldn't the Sun?

The Earth has a closed system of biology? So it's not constantly receiving energy from the Sun?

Arghhh... It's about chemistry, not biology! even with 100% quantum efficiency you couldn't get enougth light output. Don't try to use modern vis vitalis.

Well the Earth manages to have a closed system of biology, why wouldn't the Sun?

Why wouldn't it indeed. It's your theory, it can have whatever it wants.

Quote from: James on July 22, 2009, 01:43:34 PM

Well the Earth manages to have a closed system of biology, why wouldn't the Sun?

Why wouldn't it indeed. It's your theory, it can have whatever it wants.

Hooray for making up physics on the spot!

Well the Earth manages to have a closed system of biology, why wouldn't the Sun?

Because the Sun isn't the Earth?

Surely many things which are not other things have attributes which those other things have.

It is possible that the Sun is bioluminescent. I have been considering this possibility for quite some time. It strikes me that the Egyptian Atenists might have been onto something (and so might their opponents in the Priesthood of Ra have been).

  Is this that kind of theory where we must throw all telescopes to recycling bin and make a face like they never existed?

Quote from: James on July 22, 2009, 01:09:15 PM

It is possible that the Sun is bioluminescent. I have been considering this possibility for quite some time. It strikes me that the Egyptian Atenists might have been onto something (and so might their opponents in the Priesthood of Ra have been).

  Is this that kind of theory where we must throw all telescopes to recycling bin and make a face like they never existed?

No, what possible fact about the Sun which is observable with a telescope suggests that it is not alive?

There is no chemical reaction that could power the sun for millions of years.
Get over that.

There is no chemical reaction that could power the sun for millions of years.
Get over that.

If that ridiculous proposition were true, how would the Sun emit light at all, regardless of what shape the Earth is?

Surely many things which are not other things have attributes which those other things have.

But there are many more spherical, rotational celestial bodies than there are biological systems. In fact, all large bodies in space are spherical. The Earth is large, and it is moving through space, making it a large body in space. So therefore, the argument for the Earth being spherical on these grounds alone is much stronger than the argument for the sun having biological entities, since there is only one other celestial body where biological entities are known to reside.

Quote from: zork on July 22, 2009, 03:12:57 PM

  Is this that kind of theory where we must throw all telescopes to recycling bin and make a face like they never existed?

No, what possible fact about the Sun which is observable with a telescope suggests that it is not alive?

Not alive but something about bioluminescence. It's not hot light and with telescopes we can observe solar flares. Of course, maybe they are not flares but the bioluminescent organisms just jump there up and down.

Quote from: James on July 22, 2009, 03:14:17 PM

Quote from: zork on July 22, 2009, 03:12:57 PM

  Is this that kind of theory where we must throw all telescopes to recycling bin and make a face like they never existed?

No, what possible fact about the Sun which is observable with a telescope suggests that it is not alive?

Not alive but something about bioluminescence. It's not hot light and with telescopes we can observe solar flares. Of course, maybe they are not flares but the bioluminescent organisms just jump there up and down.

Solar flatulence?

Quote from: zork on July 22, 2009, 03:42:26 PM

Not alive but something about bioluminescence. It's not hot light and with telescopes we can observe solar flares. Of course, maybe they are not flares but the bioluminescent organisms just jump there up and down.

Solar flatulence?

  Which goes from one anus to another or to somewhere else. But it's also a idea 

Quote from: James on July 22, 2009, 03:10:27 PM

Surely many things which are not other things have attributes which those other things have.

But there are many more spherical, rotational celestial bodies than there are biological systems. In fact, all large bodies in space are spherical. The Earth is large, and it is moving through space, making it a large body in space. So therefore, the argument for the Earth being spherical on these grounds alone is much stronger than the argument for the sun having biological entities, since there is only one other celestial body where biological entities are known to reside.

There are no spherical, rotational celestial bodies in space. See how your predetermined globularist convictions shape your own justifications of the theory. It's a circular belief system.

Solar flatulence?

Since flatulence is a characteristic of living things, surely the presence of Solar flatulence would actually be evidence IN FAVOUR of the notion that the Sun is bioluminescent rather than against it?

There are no spherical, rotational celestial bodies in space. See how your predetermined globularist convictions shape your own justifications of the theory. It's a circular belief system.

There aren't?  Then those things I saw in my telescope are flecks of dust placed on the lens by some members of a vast global conspiracy?  That makes far more sense than there being other planets out there, thanks guys.

Squat, nice pin man. You've really got him running. 

Is it enough that Mr. James has been "considering this POSSIBILITY for quite some time." to make it real?
Where are the numerous pages of careful mathematical calculations to back this up? we certainly have these for the round world explanations of such things. It seems all that we have for the flat world explanations is what Mr. James has been considering for a period. Hmm, I'm convinced, sign me up!

The only direction I am running is towards the truth. Notice, that I haven't even really proclaimed with any certainty that the Sun is alive, I've just raised the possibility. Of course, trust globularists to put words in my mouth.