The Sun's power source.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: The Sun's power source.
« Reply #120 on: June 06, 2011, 10:05:16 AM »
How do you know if you are in the state of having eliminated all contradicting possibilities?

You know that you are in a state of having eliminated all contradicting possibilities when you put your work forwards and skeptics are unable to challenge your work with contradicting possibilities.

If it's not yet known to be possible, then it's not yet a contradicting possibility.

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How does one tell the difference between a trail left by a particle and a trail left by a wave?

You can't. There's no way to know whether that device is detecting particles or waves.

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Re: The Sun's power source.
« Reply #121 on: June 06, 2011, 10:08:43 AM »
How do you know if you are in the state of having eliminated all contradicting possibilities?

You know that you are in a state of having eliminated all contradicting possibilities when you put your work forwards and skeptics are unable to challenge your work with contradicting possibilities.

If it's not yet known to be possible, then it's not yet a contradicting possibility.

..Then you have still not arrived at the truth, because there may be (as you hinted) a contradicting possibility in the future.

Thanks.
 
I haven't performed it and I've never claimed to. I've have trouble being in two places at the same time.

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markjo

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Re: The Sun's power source.
« Reply #122 on: June 06, 2011, 10:09:01 AM »
How do you know if you are in the state of having eliminated all contradicting possibilities?

You know that you are in a state of having eliminated all contradicting possibilities when you put your work forwards and skeptics are unable to challenge your work with contradicting possibilities.

If it's not yet known to be possible, then it's not yet a contradicting possibility.

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How does one tell the difference between a trail left by a particle and a trail left by a wave?

You can't. There's no way to know whether that device is detecting particles or waves.

Interesting.  So you're saying that wave theory does not contradict particle theory?  How is one to know which is true if there is no contradiction?
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Re: The Sun's power source.
« Reply #123 on: June 06, 2011, 10:10:39 AM »
The Sun is known to be a large ball of quarks and antiquarks, powered by the mutual annihilation of said quarks, which is modulated by the strong force.
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Re: The Sun's power source.
« Reply #124 on: June 06, 2011, 10:21:04 AM »
Citation please?
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Re: The Sun's power source.
« Reply #125 on: June 06, 2011, 10:26:54 AM »
..Then you have still not arrived at the truth, because there may be (as you hinted) a contradicting possibility in the future.

Thanks.
 

By eliminating all present contradicting possibilities you would arrive at the present truth. It's impossible to arrive at a future truth.

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Interesting.  So you're saying that wave theory does not contradict particle theory?  How is one to know which is true if there is no contradiction?

I didn't say that wave theory was true. I said that it was a contradicting possibility which has not been eliminated.

Re: The Sun's power source.
« Reply #126 on: June 06, 2011, 10:29:18 AM »
..Then you have still not arrived at the truth, because there may be (as you hinted) a contradicting possibility in the future.

Thanks.
 

By eliminating all present contradicting possibilities you would arrive at the present truth. It's impossible to arrive at a future truth.

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Interesting.  So you're saying that wave theory does not contradict particle theory?  How is one to know which is true if there is no contradiction?

I didn't say that wave theory was true. I said that it was a contradicting possibility which has not been eliminated.

The present truth may not be the truth.
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Re: The Sun's power source.
« Reply #127 on: June 06, 2011, 10:34:40 AM »
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Interesting.  So you're saying that wave theory does not contradict particle theory?  How is one to know which is true if there is no contradiction?

I didn't say that wave theory was true. I said that it was a contradicting possibility which has not been eliminated.

If proton waves have the same properties as proton particles, then where is the contradiction?  ???
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: The Sun's power source.
« Reply #128 on: June 06, 2011, 10:38:06 AM »
..Then you have still not arrived at the truth, because there may be (as you hinted) a contradicting possibility in the future.

Thanks.
 

By eliminating all present contradicting possibilities you would arrive at the present truth. It's impossible to arrive at a future truth.

But doesn't a "future truth" invalidate the "present truth"? 
Then surely the "present truth" was not the truth after all.
I haven't performed it and I've never claimed to. I've have trouble being in two places at the same time.

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Re: The Sun's power source.
« Reply #129 on: June 06, 2011, 11:05:04 AM »
So it sounds like truth may actually have an expiration date.
By eliminating all present contradicting possibilities you would arrive at the present truth. It's impossible to arrive at a future truth.

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Re: The Sun's power source.
« Reply #130 on: June 06, 2011, 07:47:39 PM »
How do you know if you are in the state of having eliminated all contradicting possibilities?

You know that you are in a state of having eliminated all contradicting possibilities when you put your work forwards and skeptics are unable to challenge your work with contradicting possibilities.

If it's not yet known to be possible, then it's not yet a contradicting possibility.

lol this has scientific method written all over it.
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.