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« on: September 26, 2008, 05:26:47 PM »
Hi Guys

I am wondering if there is a recitation for the New Testament or the old Testament. I mean in Islam we recite (read) the words of God (The Quran) in a special way.  When we Muslims pray we recite the Quran. Is there something like that in other religions beside Islam?

Here is an example of a recitation



he is reading this >>>

"And thy Lord comes attended by angels, rank on rank; And Hell is brought near that day; on that day man will remember, but of what avail shall that remembrance be to him ? He will say, `O, would that I had sent on some good works for my life here !'  So on that day none can punish like unto HIS punishment. And none can bind like unto HIS binding. O, thou soul at peace !  Return to thy Lord, thou well-pleased with HIM and HE well-pleased with thee.  So enter thou among MY chosen servants, And enter thou MY Garden."

Of course the recitation can be done by any Muslims even kids there is no restrictions like this one >>>



If you have recitations of the other religions can you please post a link?
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2008, 08:22:14 PM »
Besides the Lord's prayer Christianity does not have any universal prayers. The most widly used collection of prayers is the Anglican Book of Common Prayer.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2008, 08:32:37 PM »
ya instead of praying at church christians usually sing hymns or listen to the preacher talk about the bible
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2008, 08:36:57 PM »
Thanks alot Athalus for the link, but what I wanted is what I see in some games, like Christians standing and holding the cross and they sing, I always thought this is the way they recite the Bible? Where I can find that?

Panda:
Hmm in Islam we also have lectures given by scholars or the students of the Quran but when we pray we read from the Quran, for example if we are in a mosque we pray together as a group and one lead us to recite.

What about the Jews?
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2008, 08:45:30 PM »
Thanks alot Athalus for the link, but what I wanted is what I see in some games, like Christians standing and holding the cross and they sing, I always thought this is the way they recite the Bible? Where I can find that?

Panda:
Hmm in Islam we also have lectures given by scholars or the students of the Quran but when we pray we read from the Quran, for example if we are in a mosque we pray together as a group and one lead us to recite.

What about the Jews?
ya i have no idea about what jews do
i wonder if anyone does
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2008, 09:02:43 PM »
If your wondering what we do in Mosque its like this?



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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2008, 09:08:05 PM »
If your wondering what we do in Mosque its like this?



:)
As Panda said, hymns are sung rather then the bible being recited at church services. Prayers are said as well, and those prayers and hymns vary by church and denomination.

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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2008, 09:15:58 PM »
If your wondering what we do in Mosque its like this?



:)
As Panda said, hymns are sung rather then the bible being recited at church services. Prayers are said as well, and those prayers and hymns vary by church and denomination.

Hmmm I mean each church does have it's own song or your quoting words from the Bible? For example if in the UAE there is a church and Christians praying or singing, can this hymn or reading be like the other churches? we in Islam all mosques we read from the Quran.

BTW I have another question, it's also about reading. In Islam Allah promised us that the one who is reading Quran and reciting it he will be rewarded for each character. If I did recite for example 5 words I will be getting 50 Hassana (An Arabic word used for I think Point or Reward). Is there anything like that in Christianity or other religions?
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 02:27:19 AM »
Christians sing hymns from the book of psalms, or hymns written by other song writers, and they sometimes recite the bible(but not singing, like muslims do). To the second question, no I don't think there is such a thing. At least not officially. ::)
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 04:56:37 AM »
Jews tend to cry at walls...close enough
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 08:04:26 AM »
Christians sing hymns from the book of psalms, or hymns written by other song writers, and they sometimes recite the bible(but not singing, like muslims do). To the second question, no I don't think there is such a thing. At least not officially. ::)

Hmmm I see, I always thought they were like us repeating the words of God or at least the words of Jesus. By the way, regarding our recitation, in fact this is called in Arabic "Tarteel/Tajweed" it's a special way to read the Arabic Letters with it's basic rules. As you know Arabs are popular for poetry and they have special way to read the Arabic Poetry, Nasheed (It's almost like a Hymn without any instruments) and finally the Quran. When you read the Arabic the pronouncing and the ending of each verse will be similar unlike when you read the translation, hmmm don't know how to explain that but some Arabic words to pronounce it we must increase the length of the character. For example the characters "Alif Lam Mem" there are some rules in Arabic that Alif can only be pronounced Alif while the Mem should be pronounced Meeeeeeeeeem because of the position of the character. For example check this recitation at the second 50 >>>



He is reading the word "Samawat" meaning heavens/skies but you see he is increasing the length because the word in that position requires you to length but it's not a must that's why some other make it 2 seconds while others 1 while others 3 ^_^

Here is another >>>



As you have realized at the end of each breath he is increasing the length

 LoooL I know that's complicated! That's why sometimes you will find a man reciting Quran normally like if he is reading a newspaper while some others read it like the links I gave you.

Hmm as for the rewards, maybe that's why we feel that we Muslims are lucky, I mean our prophet Mohammed said that even smiling is considered a "Good deed" that you will be rewarded for ^_~

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Jews tend to cry at walls...close enough

I saw one of them were holding a book I guess the Old Testament and was reading it almost like the singing. I don't know if that was their prayer or he was only reading the book?
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2008, 08:06:38 AM »


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Jews tend to cry at walls...close enough

I saw one of them were holding a book I guess the Old Testament and was reading it almost like the singing. I don't know if that was their prayer or he was only reading the book?
who knows
jews happen to be very weird people
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2008, 08:24:23 AM »
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who knows
jews happen to be very weird people

I think that because we still don't know about them, I am sure most of the Members here untill now think that I am totally weird because they still don't know much why I do this or that but the time you know you would get used to it :P

BTW I found a Hindu called "Sri Sri Ravi Shanker" he was reciting their scriptures like an Arabic Poetry that was similar on how we Arab read the poets.

What about Buddhism? do they have something similar?

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 08:26:46 AM »
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who knows
jews happen to be very weird people

I think that because we still don't know about them, I am sure most of the Members here untill now think that I am totally weird because they still don't know much why I do this or that but the time you know you would get used to it :P

BTW I found a Hindu called "Sri Sri Ravi Shanker" he was reciting their scriptures like an Arabic Poetry that was similar on how we Arab read the poets.

What about Buddhism? do they have something similar?


i think buddists just meditate
they dont have a book or ne thing like that
and ive heard how the muslims recite b4
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2008, 10:31:07 AM »
Yes, it's called a mass in Catholic church and liturgy in Eastern Orthodox Church:

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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2008, 10:38:30 AM »
Yes, it's called a mass in Catholic church and liturgy in Eastern Orthodox Church:


Yeah that what I was looking for I guess they are Christians, right? by the way if someone goes to Church should he be singing like them? or he can just stand there? I mean what if a man don't memorize the songs or the prayers?
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2008, 10:39:27 AM »
Yes, it's called a mass in Catholic church and liturgy in Eastern Orthodox Church:


Yeah that what I was looking for I guess they are Christians, right? by the way if someone goes to Church should he be singing like them? or he can just stand there? I mean what if a man don't memorize the songs or the prayers?

Those people are keeping their mouths shut. A choir is singing in the background.
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2008, 10:42:25 AM »
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Those people are keeping their mouths shut. A choir is singing in the background.

I was also wondering, is this occurs everyday and every time you go to church? if not then something like that, how many times it occurs in a year?
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2008, 10:44:15 AM »
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Those people are keeping their mouths shut. A choir is singing in the background.

I was also wondering, is this occurs everyday and every time you go to church? if not then something like that, how many times it occurs in a year?

It is supposed to be done every Sunday. But, this liturgy is special. It is the one on Easter morning. Easter is the day when Jesus Christ resurrected from the dead.
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2008, 12:08:24 PM »
Christians sing hymns from the book of psalms, or hymns written by other song writers, and they sometimes recite the bible(but not singing, like muslims do). To the second question, no I don't think there is such a thing. At least not officially. ::)

Hmmm I see, I always thought they were like us repeating the words of God or at least the words of Jesus. By the way, regarding our recitation, in fact this is called in Arabic "Tarteel/Tajweed" it's a special way to read the Arabic Letters with it's basic rules. As you know Arabs are popular for poetry and they have special way to read the Arabic Poetry, Nasheed (It's almost like a Hymn without any instruments) and finally the Quran. When you read the Arabic the pronouncing and the ending of each verse will be similar unlike when you read the translation, hmmm don't know how to explain that but some Arabic words to pronounce it we must increase the length of the character. For example the characters "Alif Lam Mem" there are some rules in Arabic that Alif can only be pronounced Alif while the Mem should be pronounced Meeeeeeeeeem because of the position of the character. For example check this recitation at the second 50 >>>



He is reading the word "Samawat" meaning heavens/skies but you see he is increasing the length because the word in that position requires you to length but it's not a must that's why some other make it 2 seconds while others 1 while others 3 ^_^

Here is another >>>



As you have realized at the end of each breath he is increasing the length

 LoooL I know that's complicated! That's why sometimes you will find a man reciting Quran normally like if he is reading a newspaper while some others read it like the links I gave you.

Hmm as for the rewards, maybe that's why we feel that we Muslims are lucky, I mean our prophet Mohammed said that even smiling is considered a "Good deed" that you will be rewarded for ^_~

I think I get the pronounciation. Kinda. I get that it's kinda complicated, but the results (The recitations) are really great. That's one of the things that I really like about islam, it really sounds beautiful when people read the Quran.
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2008, 12:32:44 PM »
Christians sing hymns from the book of psalms, or hymns written by other song writers, and they sometimes recite the bible(but not singing, like muslims do). To the second question, no I don't think there is such a thing. At least not officially. ::)

Hmmm I see, I always thought they were like us repeating the words of God or at least the words of Jesus. By the way, regarding our recitation, in fact this is called in Arabic "Tarteel/Tajweed" it's a special way to read the Arabic Letters with it's basic rules. As you know Arabs are popular for poetry and they have special way to read the Arabic Poetry, Nasheed (It's almost like a Hymn without any instruments) and finally the Quran. When you read the Arabic the pronouncing and the ending of each verse will be similar unlike when you read the translation, hmmm don't know how to explain that but some Arabic words to pronounce it we must increase the length of the character. For example the characters "Alif Lam Mem" there are some rules in Arabic that Alif can only be pronounced Alif while the Mem should be pronounced Meeeeeeeeeem because of the position of the character. For example check this recitation at the second 50 >>>



He is reading the word "Samawat" meaning heavens/skies but you see he is increasing the length because the word in that position requires you to length but it's not a must that's why some other make it 2 seconds while others 1 while others 3 ^_^

Here is another >>>



As you have realized at the end of each breath he is increasing the length

 LoooL I know that's complicated! That's why sometimes you will find a man reciting Quran normally like if he is reading a newspaper while some others read it like the links I gave you.

Hmm as for the rewards, maybe that's why we feel that we Muslims are lucky, I mean our prophet Mohammed said that even smiling is considered a "Good deed" that you will be rewarded for ^_~

I think I get the pronounciation. Kinda. I get that it's kinda complicated, but the results (The recitations) are really great. That's one of the things that I really like about islam, it really sounds beautiful when people read the Quran.
do you not like how i read the bible
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2008, 12:49:15 PM »
Wouldn't know, I've never heard you read the bible. The thing is, when I hear the bible, I understand the message, and that kind of ruins it, to understand the entire thing. When I hear quran recitals, I don't understand everything, but I know the general message. That adds an element of mystery, and I know that it sounds silly, but I like that.
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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2008, 02:43:08 PM »
Wouldn't know, I've never heard you read the bible. The thing is, when I hear the bible, I understand the message, and that kind of ruins it, to understand the entire thing. When I hear quran recitals, I don't understand everything, but I know the general message. That adds an element of mystery, and I know that it sounds silly, but I like that.
i know what your saying
when the guy reads the koran it sounds cool
better than some redneck talking about it

ps i dont read the bible
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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2008, 02:47:42 PM »
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I think I get the pronounciation. Kinda. I get that it's kinda complicated, but the results (The recitations) are really great. That's one of the things that I really like about islam, it really sounds beautiful when people read the Quran.

Well if you were an Arabic it's one of the easiest thing I guess but for non-Arab it's little bit hard. The thing is for example if there is a lecture, reading the Quran can be done like if your reading the others that's why I asked if there are Christians recite their bible like we do for the Quran, I mean you might someone reading the Quran normally while others they recite it.

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Wouldn't know, I've never heard you read the bible. The thing is, when I hear the bible, I understand the message, and that kind of ruins it, to understand the entire thing. When I hear quran recitals, I don't understand everything, but I know the general message. That adds an element of mystery, and I know that it sounds silly, but I like that.

Again I think that depends on the language, for us Arabians it's very easy language but again I believe that the English translation is more than enough to understand ^_~ I mean did you see the video I gave you regarding the "Sin of saying that god begetting a son" I think the translation was clear.
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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2008, 02:54:09 PM »
Oh, yeah, I could understand like that, but just listening is the thing that really sounds a bit "magical". I think it's nice. :)
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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2008, 02:57:56 PM »
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I think I get the pronounciation. Kinda. I get that it's kinda complicated, but the results (The recitations) are really great. That's one of the things that I really like about islam, it really sounds beautiful when people read the Quran.

Well if you were an Arabic it's one of the easiest thing I guess but for non-Arab it's little bit hard. The thing is for example if there is a lecture, reading the Quran can be done like if your reading the others that's why I asked if there are Christians recite their bible like we do for the Quran, I mean you might someone reading the Quran normally while others they recite it.

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Wouldn't know, I've never heard you read the bible. The thing is, when I hear the bible, I understand the message, and that kind of ruins it, to understand the entire thing. When I hear quran recitals, I don't understand everything, but I know the general message. That adds an element of mystery, and I know that it sounds silly, but I like that.

Again I think that depends on the language, for us Arabians it's very easy language but again I believe that the English translation is more than enough to understand ^_~ I mean did you see the video I gave you regarding the "Sin of saying that god begetting a son" I think the translation was clear.
ya i agree
languages are easier to understand if you speak them
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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2008, 03:12:59 PM »
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I think I get the pronounciation. Kinda. I get that it's kinda complicated, but the results (The recitations) are really great. That's one of the things that I really like about islam, it really sounds beautiful when people read the Quran.

Well if you were an Arabic it's one of the easiest thing I guess but for non-Arab it's little bit hard. The thing is for example if there is a lecture, reading the Quran can be done like if your reading the others that's why I asked if there are Christians recite their bible like we do for the Quran, I mean you might someone reading the Quran normally while others they recite it.

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Wouldn't know, I've never heard you read the bible. The thing is, when I hear the bible, I understand the message, and that kind of ruins it, to understand the entire thing. When I hear quran recitals, I don't understand everything, but I know the general message. That adds an element of mystery, and I know that it sounds silly, but I like that.

Again I think that depends on the language, for us Arabians it's very easy language but again I believe that the English translation is more than enough to understand ^_~ I mean did you see the video I gave you regarding the "Sin of saying that god begetting a son" I think the translation was clear.
ya i agree
languages are easier to understand if you speak them

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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2008, 03:17:05 PM »
Listening to Arabic recitation is the funniest shit ever, amirite?
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« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2008, 03:27:16 PM »
Listening to Arabic recitation is the funniest shit ever, amirite?

In fact I was really surprised that no one said this earlier!!!
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« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2008, 04:31:09 PM »
Listening to Arabic recitation is the funniest shit ever, amirite?

In fact I was really surprised that no one said this earlier!!!
actually i was gonna mention it but i never got to it
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