Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat

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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2008, 08:48:44 AM »
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This would cause retrograde motion, but not the same retrograde motion we observe.

Evidence?

Let me put it another way. This is what the motion of planets looks like. Can you provide a detailed, plausible explanation of how this is possible within FET?



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It would also mean the paths of the planets would look very different from different sides of the Earth, which isn't the case.

Actually it is the case, even on the Round Earth model. In RE different observers are standing at different angles to the planets.

The left pictures show some group of stars from a location ("Location A") on the Earths surface where the stars are directly overhead. The right pictures show this same group of stars seen from another location ("Location B") in the other hemisphere.



Notice that while in RET the stars appear upside-down (as you correctly said), in FET they are distorted by perspective. Also, the path of the planet appears below where it should because the planets are at a lower altitude than the stars.

Bumped past the Google Earth posts by the new guy.

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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2008, 09:20:32 AM »
Bumped past the Google Earth posts by the new guy.

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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2008, 03:18:04 PM »
Or, space-flights are impossible, thus Google Earth and those satellite images are altogether fake.

What about these guys then?  http://www.digitalglobe.com/index.php

Custom fake satellite imagery.  Reasonable rates.
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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2008, 05:00:12 AM »
Custom fake satellite imagery.  Reasonable rates.

Oh, look.  There's my house.  These guys are good.

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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2008, 02:01:37 PM »
Custom fake satellite imagery.  Reasonable rates.

Oh, look.  There's my house.  These guys are good.

By the resolution at which you're able to see your house the pictures can easily have been taken from a regular plane.

You can't see your house from the height at which we'd have to bring satellite imagery into the picture so it's a straw man.
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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2008, 02:25:50 PM »
By the resolution at which you're able to see your house the pictures can easily have been taken from a regular plane.

You can't see your house from the height at which we'd have to bring satellite imagery into the picture so it's a straw man.

My house is wider than the two lane street running past.  You have to know where to look, and it isn't very big, but it is visible.

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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2008, 02:52:50 PM »
By the resolution at which you're able to see your house the pictures can easily have been taken from a regular plane.

You can't see your house from the height at which we'd have to bring satellite imagery into the picture so it's a straw man.

My house is wider than the two lane street running past.  You have to know where to look, and it isn't very big, but it is visible.


I'll have to see what you're talking about in order to form an argument against it.  What's your address?
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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2008, 03:10:35 PM »
I'll have to see what you're talking about in order to form an argument against it.  What's your address?

Hopefully you will forgive me for not posting my address.  But here is the image...



Houses, and even cars, are clearly visible.  The description says that the image has resolution of 0.3 meters.

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« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2008, 03:19:36 PM »
Or, space-flights are impossible, thus Google Earth and those satellite images are altogether fake.

And yet they accurately show the same things I see from the ground by....  wizards? 
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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2008, 03:22:33 PM »
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This would cause retrograde motion, but not the same retrograde motion we observe.

Evidence?

Let me put it another way. This is what the motion of planets looks like. Can you provide a detailed, plausible explanation of how this is possible within FET?



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It would also mean the paths of the planets would look very different from different sides of the Earth, which isn't the case.

Actually it is the case, even on the Round Earth model. In RE different observers are standing at different angles to the planets.

The left pictures show some group of stars from a location ("Location A") on the Earths surface where the stars are directly overhead. The right pictures show this same group of stars seen from another location ("Location B") in the other hemisphere.



Notice that while in RET the stars appear upside-down (as you correctly said), in FET they are distorted by perspective. Also, the path of the planet appears below where it should because the planets are at a lower altitude than the stars.

Notice the huge ignore by the FEs? 

And a nice ignore of the daylight patterns too. 
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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2008, 04:53:02 PM »
Or, space-flights are impossible, thus Google Earth and those satellite images are altogether fake.

And yet they accurately show the same things I see from the ground by....  wizards? 

Image manipulation has certainly gotten sophisticated enough that they could easily have just strung together pictures taken from regular airplanes and shrunk them so they look like they were taken from a higher altitude.
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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2008, 06:34:26 PM »
Or, space-flights are impossible, thus Google Earth and those satellite images are altogether fake.

And yet they accurately show the same things I see from the ground by....  wizards? 

Image manipulation has certainly gotten sophisticated enough that they could easily have just strung together pictures taken from regular airplanes and shrunk them so they look like they were taken from a higher altitude.

Yeah, and they also cloned headless pigs with superhuman powers to take over McDonalds.

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Re: Top 10 Ways to Know the Earth is Not Flat
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2008, 07:12:18 PM »
Or, space-flights are impossible, thus Google Earth and those satellite images are altogether fake.

And yet they accurately show the same things I see from the ground by....  wizards? 

Image manipulation has certainly gotten sophisticated enough that they could easily have just strung together pictures taken from regular airplanes and shrunk them so they look like they were taken from a higher altitude.

There's a problem with that, and it is parallax yet again. 

If you look at google earth and see what sides of hte building you can see, you will see it is always hte same side, at the same angle for a large area.  for a plane, it would not be far between it seeing on side of a building to it seeing to opposite side a few buildings along.  With satellite images, all hte building show hte same visible side for a long distance. 

Another problem is time between pics, an aircraft flying overhead would take hours to photograph an area of a few hundred square miles, you can see the various chunks that are taken at the same time, some of them are massive.  If you look at the shadows, you can use them as sundials, pick a nice unpopulated area that is done with satellite photos, and compare it to one over a city where it is done with aerial photos.  You can see that in the satellite pic, all the shadows face the same way, where as if you look at different places in the aerial pics, the shadows are all different, and there are different side of houses showing. 



Although I know you response already, either magic wizard planes that fly super fast, of magic conspiracy computers that recognise every shadow and house, and perfectly realign it. 




" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Video proof that the Earth is flat!

Run run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me cos I'm in the lollipop forest and you can't get there!