Sinking Ship experiment Results

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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #150 on: August 18, 2008, 04:06:15 AM »
how would light accelerate in any direction except perpendicular to its current direction of motion? 
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« Reply #151 on: August 18, 2008, 04:13:40 AM »
how would light accelerate in any direction except perpendicular to its current direction of motion? 

If this "effect" is "pushing" light in a parabolic curve away from the Earth, that implies that it acts perpendicular to the surface of the Earth.  The light would be eventually moving in the same direction as the deflecting "effect".  In the opposite, light moving straight toward the Earth would be in direct opposition to this effect and would have to lose momentum.

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« Reply #152 on: August 18, 2008, 04:26:54 AM »
No.

Why not?

The same reason that no matter how large x gets, x-1 is never zero.
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« Reply #153 on: August 18, 2008, 04:27:29 AM »
If this "effect" is "pushing" light in a parabolic curve away from the Earth, that implies that it acts perpendicular to the surface of the Earth.  The light would be eventually moving in the same direction as the deflecting "effect".  In the opposite, light moving straight toward the Earth would be in direct opposition to this effect and would have to lose momentum.

No.
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« Reply #154 on: August 18, 2008, 04:35:28 AM »
No.

You are the king of one word answers today.

Please explain.

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« Reply #155 on: August 18, 2008, 04:36:30 AM »
The same reason that no matter how large x gets, x-1 is never zero.

Can you please explain how that relates?  It doesn't make sense to me.

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« Reply #156 on: August 18, 2008, 05:14:47 AM »
You are the king of one word answers today.

Please explain.

The light does not lose or gain any momentum, it simply changes direction. For this reason, vertical light is unaffected and horizontal light is most strongly affected.

Can you please explain how that relates?  It doesn't make sense to me.

Light rays going up get closer and closer to being vertical, but never actually become vertical - unless, of course, they were vertical to begin with.
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« Reply #157 on: August 18, 2008, 06:28:10 AM »
is the acceleration constant in one direction? 
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« Reply #158 on: August 18, 2008, 06:38:24 AM »
is the acceleration constant in one direction? 

Obviously not.
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« Reply #159 on: August 18, 2008, 06:48:22 AM »
is the acceleration constant in one direction? 

Obviously not.

So what causes this acceleration?  is it a force applied to light, why does it accelerate the light in a different direction depending on the direction of hte light? 
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« Reply #160 on: August 18, 2008, 06:50:58 AM »
So what causes this acceleration?  is it a force applied to light, why does it accelerate the light in a different direction depending on the direction of hte light? 

I answered in another thread.
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« Reply #161 on: August 18, 2008, 06:53:32 AM »
So what causes this acceleration?  is it a force applied to light, why does it accelerate the light in a different direction depending on the direction of hte light? 

I answered in another thread.
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« Reply #162 on: August 18, 2008, 06:57:16 AM »
So what causes this acceleration?  is it a force applied to light, why does it accelerate the light in a different direction depending on the direction of hte light? 

I answered in another thread.
no you didn't!

Sigh.

It accelerates it in a different direction depending on its velocity because c is a constant.
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« Reply #166 on: August 18, 2008, 07:39:50 AM »
What's stopping your worthless theory from causing gravitational redshifting? 

If you are going to throw unnecessarily malicious adjectives around, I am not going to answer your questions.
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« Reply #167 on: August 18, 2008, 07:43:34 AM »
What's stopping your worthless theory from causing gravitational redshifting? 

If you are going to throw unnecessarily malicious adjectives around, I am not going to answer your questions.

Because you can't.  I already knew it. 
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« Reply #168 on: August 19, 2008, 01:18:38 AM »
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« Reply #169 on: August 19, 2008, 04:41:12 AM »
If you are going to throw unnecessarily malicious adjectives around, I am not going to answer your questions.

Please sir, if you would please answer a question.  What's stopping your theory from causing gravitational redshifting?

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« Reply #170 on: August 19, 2008, 04:57:57 AM »
Please sir, if you would please answer a question.  What's stopping your theory from causing gravitational redshifting?

The fact that it does not change the amount of energy in each photon.
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« Reply #171 on: August 19, 2008, 06:39:58 AM »
The fact that it does not change the amount of energy in each photon.

Moving a light source doesn't change the energy level, but it still produces a dopplar shift in the frequency.

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« Reply #172 on: August 19, 2008, 06:59:09 AM »
Moving a light source doesn't change the energy level, but it still produces a dopplar shift in the frequency.

The energy of a photon is directly proportional to its frequency. You lose.
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« Reply #173 on: August 19, 2008, 07:01:41 AM »
The energy of a photon is directly proportional to its frequency. You lose.

I stand corrected.

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« Reply #174 on: August 19, 2008, 11:44:22 PM »
It accelerates it in a different direction depending on its velocity because c is a constant.

I thought you said that the direction was always perpendicular to the direction of travel.

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« Reply #175 on: August 20, 2008, 12:12:09 AM »
I thought you said that the direction was always perpendicular to the direction of travel.

Yes. That is what I meant; the direction of acceleration changes depending on the direction of velocity. I did not mean that the relationship between the directions of the velocity and acceleration vectors changes.
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« Reply #176 on: August 20, 2008, 01:21:20 AM »
[Yes. That is what I meant; the direction of acceleration changes depending on the direction of velocity. I did not mean that the relationship between the directions of the velocity and acceleration vectors changes.

How does an effect that always is perpendicular to the direction of motion equal an effect that must act perpendicular to the surface of the Earth?

As I understand that if you graph the vectors, there will be a perpendicular component, but there should also be a component in the parallel correct?


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« Reply #177 on: August 20, 2008, 01:52:13 AM »
Why do people quoe Rowbotham as a god when his experiments have been dsproven. and light DOES ben Oka Nieba, it bends over the curve of the Earth. Also  light from other stars is bent by gravity of other stars as it travels to Earth, as  discovered by Einstein. light does bend, light easily bends as it has no mass.

You are partly correct. Light has no rest mass but light is never at rest so it is considered to have mass.

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« Reply #178 on: August 20, 2008, 12:54:37 PM »
How does an effect that always is perpendicular to the direction of motion equal an effect that must act perpendicular to the surface of the Earth?

As I understand that if you graph the vectors, there will be a perpendicular component, but there should also be a component in the parallel correct?

Yes. There is always a component perpendicular to the surface of the Earth (unless the light is vertical), and its direction is always up. If the light is not horizontal or vertical, there is also a component parallel to the surface of the Earth, resulting in a net acceleration perpendicular to the direction of velocity.
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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #179 on: August 22, 2008, 03:33:14 AM »
So based on this "secant curve of light," how distance will a horizontal beam of light be moving vertically, or at least a close approximation of vertically?