Earth to be Proven Round Soon

You mean telling the truth. You have no proof to back you up.

Commercial vomit comet rides are now available in the US.

http://www.gozerog.com/

Quote from: messierhunter on June 24, 2008, 10:23:32 AM

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on June 24, 2008, 10:14:38 AM

If the space agencies felt that there was the slightest chance of being compromised by letting tourists visit space, they wouldn't allow it.  Presumably, the travelers are being fooled by the optical illusion of the Earth appearing to be round.

And how are they being fooled into thinking they're weightless for days on end?

The same way people experience weightlessness on a regular basis in slightly modified passanger jets? Hell, you can go to Russia experience weightless flight tomorrow if you want.

What part of "for days on end" don't you understand?  Modified passenger jets can produce about 30 seconds of weightlessness at most.

Any one who claims sustained free-fall due to "orbit" is clearly lying.

Proof?  Tito and others have claimed to do it.  Proof they're lying?

Quote from: NEEMAN on June 25, 2008, 12:26:17 PM

Quote from: messierhunter on June 24, 2008, 10:23:32 AM

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on June 24, 2008, 10:14:38 AM

If the space agencies felt that there was the slightest chance of being compromised by letting tourists visit space, they wouldn't allow it.  Presumably, the travelers are being fooled by the optical illusion of the Earth appearing to be round.

And how are they being fooled into thinking they're weightless for days on end?

The same way people experience weightlessness on a regular basis in slightly modified passanger jets? Hell, you can go to Russia experience weightless flight tomorrow if you want.

What part of "for days on end" don't you understand?  Modified passenger jets can produce about 30 seconds of weightlessness at most.

And who, I ask, is offering travellers the chance to be weightless for "days on end"? These flights, as was previously pointed out, will be brief affairs.

NASA. A derrrrrrr.

Quote from: messierhunter on June 25, 2008, 12:54:57 PM

Quote from: NEEMAN on June 25, 2008, 12:26:17 PM

Quote from: messierhunter on June 24, 2008, 10:23:32 AM

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on June 24, 2008, 10:14:38 AM

If the space agencies felt that there was the slightest chance of being compromised by letting tourists visit space, they wouldn't allow it.  Presumably, the travelers are being fooled by the optical illusion of the Earth appearing to be round.

And how are they being fooled into thinking they're weightless for days on end?

The same way people experience weightlessness on a regular basis in slightly modified passanger jets? Hell, you can go to Russia experience weightless flight tomorrow if you want.

What part of "for days on end" don't you understand?  Modified passenger jets can produce about 30 seconds of weightlessness at most.

And who, I ask, is offering travellers the chance to be weightless for "days on end"? These flights, as was previously pointed out, will be brief affairs.

Do you know who Dennis Tito is?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Tito

Space Ship One and Space Ship Two will use the same method to acheive "weightlessness". It's an extended vomit comet ride. As I remember the effect is anticipated to last five minutes in the commercial flights. I think Space Ship One encountered just over a minute and a half, but I'm too lazy to look it up again. I've posted the information here before.
Any one who claims sustained free-fall due to "orbit" is clearly lying.

You are aware that a 5 minute weightless ride on a FE would require the craft to fly up to about 883 km, a good 2 and a half times higher than the ISS?

Quote from: NEEMAN on June 25, 2008, 12:56:50 PM

Quote from: messierhunter on June 25, 2008, 12:54:57 PM

Quote from: NEEMAN on June 25, 2008, 12:26:17 PM

Quote from: messierhunter on June 24, 2008, 10:23:32 AM

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on June 24, 2008, 10:14:38 AM

If the space agencies felt that there was the slightest chance of being compromised by letting tourists visit space, they wouldn't allow it.  Presumably, the travelers are being fooled by the optical illusion of the Earth appearing to be round.

And how are they being fooled into thinking they're weightless for days on end?

The same way people experience weightlessness on a regular basis in slightly modified passanger jets? Hell, you can go to Russia experience weightless flight tomorrow if you want.

What part of "for days on end" don't you understand?  Modified passenger jets can produce about 30 seconds of weightlessness at most.

And who, I ask, is offering travellers the chance to be weightless for "days on end"? These flights, as was previously pointed out, will be brief affairs.

Do you know who Dennis Tito is?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Tito

A liar? Tell me, have you ever met him? How is he any more credible than the head of NASA, or whoever?

And my response to ROUNDOOO is *facepalm*

Quote from: NEEMAN on June 25, 2008, 12:56:50 PM

Quote from: messierhunter on June 25, 2008, 12:54:57 PM

What part of "for days on end" don't you understand?  Modified passenger jets can produce about 30 seconds of weightlessness at most.

And who, I ask, is offering travellers the chance to be weightless for "days on end"? These flights, as was previously pointed out, will be brief affairs.

Do you know who Dennis Tito is?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Tito

QFT

More links, yay!

First person to take a space vacation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Tito

Space vacations:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2003/01/57164 (this one's good)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_tourism

It appears that FEers has ignored this post. So I am psoting it again. Seriously FEers read the articles and show us some proof to your claims.

Quote from: markjo on June 25, 2008, 01:00:47 PM

Quote from: NEEMAN on June 25, 2008, 12:56:50 PM

Quote from: messierhunter on June 25, 2008, 12:54:57 PM

Quote from: NEEMAN on June 25, 2008, 12:26:17 PM

Quote from: messierhunter on June 24, 2008, 10:23:32 AM

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on June 24, 2008, 10:14:38 AM

If the space agencies felt that there was the slightest chance of being compromised by letting tourists visit space, they wouldn't allow it.  Presumably, the travelers are being fooled by the optical illusion of the Earth appearing to be round.

And how are they being fooled into thinking they're weightless for days on end?

The same way people experience weightlessness on a regular basis in slightly modified passanger jets? Hell, you can go to Russia experience weightless flight tomorrow if you want.

What part of "for days on end" don't you understand?  Modified passenger jets can produce about 30 seconds of weightlessness at most.

And who, I ask, is offering travellers the chance to be weightless for "days on end"? These flights, as was previously pointed out, will be brief affairs.

Do you know who Dennis Tito is?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Tito

A liar? Tell me, have you ever met him? How is he any more credible than the head of NASA, or whoever?

And my response to ROUNDOOO is *facepalm*

You asked the question.  Don't ask the question if you're not prepared to accept the answer.  Your goalpost was "show me who is offering weightlessness for days on end."  The answer is "Space Adventures" and if you have 20 mil lying around an orbital ride can be yours:
http://www.spaceadventures.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=orbital.welcome

I simply and absolutely love the title of this thread.  

Yes, but these are well out of the reach of ordinary people, and those that are even remotely close to within the reach of the overwhelming, vast majority of the planet do not offer days on end. I mean, they have had 6 clients- the idea that they are incorruptable is naive.

Yes, but these are well out of the reach of ordinary people, and those that are even remotely close to within the reach of the overwhelming, vast majority of the planet do not offer days on end. I mean, they have had 6 clients- the idea that they are incorruptable is naive.

The idea that 6 people would shell out 20 million a piece out of pocket for a lie is naive.  You didn't ask who was offering it to every man, woman, and child.  You failed to specify, so I gave you an answer that satisfied your question.

Who says they did shell out 20 million? Perhaps the reverse is true.

And your proof is where?

Why would I believe the testimony of six very well connected people over the massive evidence showing sustained space flight is impossible?

And your proof is where?

The same place yours is? Can you prove they did?

Who says they did shell out 20 million? Perhaps the reverse is true.

So a company is paying $20 million for someone to say that they went into orbit?  Where do I sign up?

Yes I can prove they did actually. It's called Google.

Why would I believe the testimony of six very well connected people over the massive evidence showing sustained space flight is impossible?

I can't recall any evidence that space flight is impossible. Only attempts to suggest how it could be faked, and the fact that apparently space flight is impossible in the FE hypothesis.

Quote from: NEEMAN on June 25, 2008, 01:13:58 PM

Who says they did shell out 20 million? Perhaps the reverse is true.

So a company is paying $20 million for someone to say that they went into orbit?  Where do I sign up?

Are you a millionaire? Nope? Not a plausible candidate; back to the land of the blind with you.

Why would I believe the testimony of six very well connected people over the massive evidence showing sustained space flight is impossible?

Where's this "massive evidence"?  Everytime I check, the orbital elements of spacecraft successfully predict their location from any viewing spot I choose.

Quote from: markjo on June 25, 2008, 01:22:34 PM

Quote from: NEEMAN on June 25, 2008, 01:13:58 PM

Who says they did shell out 20 million? Perhaps the reverse is true.

So a company is paying $20 million for someone to say that they went into orbit?  Where do I sign up?

Are you a millionaire? Nope? Not a plausible candidate; back to the land of the normal people with you.

Fix'd.

As stated many times before, this is a HUGE win for RE. And FEers stop ignoring the links I present. You're just afraid you'll be proven wrong, I know it. I bet that even if an FEer went on a 5 day space vacation they still would be foolish and stubborn enough to still think the Earth is flat.

6 people claim to have done this? Huge win.

As stated many times before, this is a HUGE win for RE.

If it's such a huge win, why do you feel the need to keep saying so? It's like your entire existence depends on you making sure everybody knows that the Earth is round. Just relax.

6 people claim to have done this? Huge win.

You didn't initially specify how many it needed to be.  In fact, since you're making the claim that they're liars I believe the burden of proof is on you to support that claim for each and every one of them.

Claiming to go to space is a more extraordinary claim than that people are dishonest?  Wow...

NEEMAN got owned. And for the penguin guy, my existence is not to make sure everyone knows the Earth is round, but just FEers. Well actually that's about 0.5% of my life but whatever. And STOP IGNORING MY LINKS FEERS. It just proves that you're scared and ignorant.