FE Gravitation

And dark energy?

Same story as Dark Matter. Dark Energy IS energy, afterall.

Look, what are you arguing Althalus? I have already stated my thoughts about theorizing this sort of matter/energy to explain FE, and I didn't equate impropability to impossibility, I say: If you plan to argue FE you need to come to me with something more than MetaEnergy (TM).

I don't think I'm being ignorant here, or incredulous. I am saying that shrugging and saying "well maybe not ALL energy acts that way...you don't know for certain, ect." is not acceptable.

Dark energy doesn't have particles with mass.

Look, what are you arguing Althalus?

I am arguing that trying to determine the effects of the UA are pointless. A FE'er will say "All we know is that it accelerates" the earth.

Given that DE and DM are hypothetical and unproven why should FE'ers try to determine how their placeholder energy works? It took several decades for physicists world-wide to arrive at the model of DE/DM, which will probably undergo future revision.

Dark energy doesn't have particles with mass.

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Look, what are you arguing Althalus?

I am arguing that trying to determine the effects of the UA are pointless. A FE'er will say "All we know is that it accelerates" the earth.

Given that DE and DM are hypothetical and unproven why should FE'ers try to determine how their placeholder energy works? It took several decades for physicists world-wide to arrive at the model of DE/DM, which will probably undergo future revision.

Because, physicists can prove that dark matter and energy follow the laws of physics, while if you use a place holder for FE, and cannot prove that such a matter/energy (that defies GR) can, or does exist, it is not the same case.
I am wonder why there is the need for UA, I think it is a bad theory for this site for the reasons I mentioned above, and I would like a response. I mentioned maybe adopting a non-UA theory.

As far as I know, DE defies no physical laws. The comparison you are trying to make does not exist.

Replying to you is tedious and your point is going nowhere, please don't make this like your religion threads. If you are compelled to reply, think about the original purpose of my thread and you not serving it.
The bolded part is important, it includes my purpose for this thread and where I would like it to go. Don't you see? I know there will be no definite explaination for the UA effects causes, I am showing its flaws and am now on the topic of the theme theory of the site (the FAQ theory).


Edit: Don't know if anyone still up this late, but since I have been active in this thread I think I should say that I am going to sleep now. I'll be available tomorrow morning, goodnight.

de would not be able to power the earths acceleration even through it makes up appox. 70% of all energy in the universe it is spread out very thin after ll the the first 120 decimal places are zero meaning the density is pretty tiny

Superstrings, anyone?

If the FE is suspended on superstrings (imagine enormous elastic bands), they should be strong enough to provide constant acceleration.

Maybe it needs a tad more development.

For Athalus:

Re: New Ask Physicist question‏
From: J.P. Caillault ([email protected])
Sent: May 30, 2008 3:32:28 PM

Since photons contribute to the stress-energy tensor (an attribute of matter, radiation, and non-gravitational force fields), they exert a gravitational attraction on other objects, according to the general theory of relativity.

JPC

When did I say they didn't?