your response defies even your own logic.
it may appear to "descend" in altitude to us, as it recedes from us. but presumably in the fe model, the sun doesn't *actually* drop in altitude, and in absolute terms regardless of our viewing perspective, the sun is still higher than the clouds.
so i ask yet again: how do the sun's rays wind up striking the bottom of the clouds?
Perspective is physical. That's why. When the sun appears to descend it is actually descending for all intents and purposes, despite being at all times the same altitude above the surface of the earth.
Lets do a little thought experiment:
Imagine that we are standing upon an infinite plane.
We have a long plastic tube six feet in length. The tube is on a table pointed horizontally, exactly level with the horizon line. If we look through the level tube we will see that the scene at the end of the tube is divided in half horizontally, half land and half sky.
Now, lets have a plane flying overhead recede away from the observer into that horizon. As the plane recedes it will appear to descend due to the natural laws of perspective. After a time the plane will approach the horizon. When we look through the tube we see the plane near the horizon line.
Now, how is it possible that the rays of light from the plane are traveling horizontally through the tube and hitting the observer's eye if the plane is at an altitude high above the observer?
bishop, even i am dumfounded at your absolute, complete ignorance. i am biting my tongue preventing a string of profanities exclaiming your ignorance, but fear the long arm of theengineer.
whenever you are backed into a corner, you come up with a "thought experiment" that a 6 year old would think of, having no connection whatsoever to the debate, and say "so there". you have the mental capacity of a chimp, at best, i'm shaking my head at why i even bother engaging you.
take your straw and shove it in your ass. (you know, the donkey you keep outside because he likes straw.)
instead,
explain to me, as best as your chimp brain can manage, how the sun gets below the clouds in order to illuminate the clouds from underneath. i don't care if you assume we can see to infinity, and the sun is infinitely far away (and apparently then infinitely bright) - the sun, being higher than the clouds (on your flat earth) no matter how far away the two are from each other, cannot illuminate it from below. the angle of illumination to the top may be infinitely small, but no matter what you do, the sun is not going to get below the clouds.
at least now i fully understand how you think "perspective" works, and your sinking ship theory suddenly makes complete (non)sense. so, thank you for that.
your only "out" is to claim "refraction" (the magical reverse kind bending upward into less dense atmo), or maybe reflection off water. or who knows what bullshit you'll come up with. not that i care any more. arguing with you is like winning the special olympics. i might win, but i'm still retarded for even engaging in the effort. so is everyone else who pays attention to you.
you know what, just produce the pics of the beach 33 miles away, and post the video you promised, then i might take your "ideas" seriously. until then, buzz off. engaging with you is like jogging through a little swarm of gnats - harmless but momentarily annoying.