Question about gravity

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Question about gravity
« on: September 14, 2007, 03:46:36 PM »
I have a question for all of you FE's out there that I would love for one of you to answer.  You believe that since the Earth is flat it can not have gravity and gravity cannot exist because that means it has to have a center and be a sphere.  Instead you believe that earth is increasingly moving upward at a constant rate.  Now for my question.  If I am in a plane and I am going from NY to Paris and the plane levels off so it is parallel to the ground why doesn't the Earth acclerate and smash into the plane?  Is it accelerating to slow?  When a helicopter levels off at about 15ft in the air why doesn't the Earth catch up to it? Plz answer serioulsy.  Thank you
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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2007, 03:51:30 PM »
I have a question for all of you FE's out there that I would love for one of you to answer.  You believe that since the Earth is flat it can not have gravity and gravity cannot exist because that means it has to have a center and be a sphere.  Instead you believe that earth is increasingly moving upward at a constant rate.  Now for my question.  If I am in a plane and I am going from NY to Paris and the plane levels off so it is parallel to the ground why doesn't the Earth acclerate and smash into the plane?  Is it accelerating to slow?  When a helicopter levels off at about 15ft in the air why doesn't the Earth catch up to it? Plz answer serioulsy.  Thank you
I refer you to the RE Primer. It has a section that explain how FET answers your question.

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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2007, 03:52:01 PM »
I have a question for all of you FE's out there that I would love for one of you to answer.  You believe that since the Earth is flat it can not have gravity and gravity cannot exist because that means it has to have a center and be a sphere.  Instead you believe that earth is increasingly moving upward at a constant rate.  Now for my question.  If I am in a plane and I am going from NY to Paris and the plane levels off so it is parallel to the ground why doesn't the Earth acclerate and smash into the plane?  Is it accelerating to slow?  When a helicopter levels off at about 15ft in the air why doesn't the Earth catch up to it? Plz answer serioulsy.  Thank you

FAQ.  Simple answer: the plane is moving through air, while the earth is moving through space.  The air is accelerated along with the earth by the earth - fill in the holes.  If you're unable to from my crap description, then go to the starting of my answer.

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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2007, 06:35:31 PM »
Ok, with the air resistance (noted here r) we have the following equations (S is speed, S0 is the vertical speed at the moment t0 when the plane stopped the engines:
For plane with the engines stopped on FE: Sp=S0+r(a(t-t0))2 - because the air resistance varies with square of the speed (I am simplyfing here). See, the air is accelerating the plane upwards, and the friction force will add to the original speed.
For Earth S=S0+a(t-t0)
Now the relative speed of plane  to Earth will be Sp-S
That means Delta S= r(a(t-to)2-a(t-t0)
When this relative speed will be constant? When it will not be variable in time. So derivative of this function with the variation of time is zero.
That means r(a(t-to)/2-a=0
So the time when speed will be terminal (constant) t=2/r+t0 - so depends only of the resistance of the plane in air (given by it's shape and position).

If the plane starts its engines, then it will generate lift force. And the plane will not crash...
« Last Edit: September 14, 2007, 06:39:57 PM by SoNic »

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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2007, 06:44:37 PM »



 That's how.

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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2007, 09:01:08 AM »
Acutally, this doesn't have a problem in FE theory. Equivalence principle.

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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2007, 09:09:32 AM »
Acutally, this doesn't have a problem in FE theory. Equivalence principle.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious ::)

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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2007, 09:13:04 AM »
Acutally, this doesn't have a problem in FE theory. Equivalence principle.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious ::)

Acutally it's not so obvious. If you haven't taken physics, you wouldn't know this.

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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2007, 11:34:45 AM »
Acutally, this doesn't have a problem in FE theory. Equivalence principle.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious ::)

Acutally it's not so obvious. If you haven't taken physics, you wouldn't know this.
Its referenced daily around here
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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2007, 11:52:56 AM »
Acutally, this doesn't have a problem in FE theory. Equivalence principle.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious ::)

Acutally it's not so obvious. If you haven't taken physics, you wouldn't know this.
Its referenced daily around here
Grammar please.

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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2007, 01:01:55 PM »
Acutally, this doesn't have a problem in FE theory. Equivalence principle.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious ::)

Acutally it's not so obvious. If you haven't taken physics, you wouldn't know this.
Its referenced daily around here
Grammar please.
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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2007, 01:06:09 PM »
Acutally, this doesn't have a problem in FE theory. Equivalence principle.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious ::)

Acutally it's not so obvious. If you haven't taken physics, you wouldn't know this.
Its referenced daily around here

And most of the time its used wrong. 
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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2007, 01:11:16 PM »
Acutally, this doesn't have a problem in FE theory. Equivalence principle.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious ::)

Acutally it's not so obvious. If you haven't taken physics, you wouldn't know this.
Its referenced daily around here

And most of the time its used wrong. 
GRAMMAR PLZ
If you canx't argue both sides, you understand neither neither

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sokarul

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Re: Question about gravity
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2007, 01:13:42 PM »
Acutally, this doesn't have a problem in FE theory. Equivalence principle.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious ::)

Acutally it's not so obvious. If you haven't taken physics, you wouldn't know this.
Its referenced daily around here

And most of the time its used wrong. 
GRAMMAR PLZ
The physics that support your flat earth theory please. 
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