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anoter one
« on: August 23, 2007, 10:47:50 AM »
Hy, i just find this forum, and i'm laughing very badly here, but one small step to crying also, when i read all these.
First and most important question:
Is this "organization" for real or you're just joking and having some fun with it?
So, if you're really serious about this (i'm a little scarred thinking about it), can you prove any of this? You say all the photos and theories are fake/controversy, but at least they have some proof, you on the other hand, nothing.
I have so many questions, i can't even write them all...
So what would happen if someone would go south (with the equipment provided by your organization, and some of your ppl as witness) all the way till he ends up right where he started? Wouldn't that prove that he was walking on a globe?
What would happen if someone would make a whole on the bottom of the ocean (if it would be possible)? All the water would jut fly away in the space and the oceans would dry?
All the people who were at the south and north pole (you can't say it's fake, cuz i know some ppl who actually been there), didn't they see the "wall"? If it's that huge, how could everyone miss it?
If there are no satellites, and we receive the signals from some antennas, how can i have those signals in some poor country in a small village or in the desert/ocean with no civilization at all?

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2007, 11:07:01 AM »
1. Yes, the organization is real.
2. It has been proven. This first experiment proves the Flat Earth.
3. A person heading south would end up at the South Pole/Ice wall, not back around.
4. A hole in the ocean bed would just leak water into a lower elevation of the earth's crust, both on round and flat earth.
5. The north pole exists in both RE and FEmodels.  The south pole doesn't exist since a vast wasll of ice has not successfully been navigated and charted completely.
6. We receive signals from pseudolites and high elevation aircraft.
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Re: anoter one
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2007, 11:19:05 AM »
Lurk more and spell better.
Yes, quite.  No one would ever claim to be someone they're not in their profile name.

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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2007, 01:19:25 PM »
1. Yes, the organization is real.
2. It has been proven. This first experiment proves the Flat Earth.
3. A person heading south would end up at the South Pole/Ice wall, not back around.
4. A hole in the ocean bed would just leak water into a lower elevation of the earth's crust, both on round and flat earth.
5. The north pole exists in both RE and FEmodels.  The south pole doesn't exist since a vast wasll of ice has not successfully been navigated and charted completely.
6. We receive signals from pseudolites and high elevation aircraft.

1. I'm really surprised.
2. RE was proven with much more experiments, and much more ppl, can u be so ignorant and overlook those?
3. You didn't understood my question. If you had the opportunity to test this, get the right equipment, to go south from a point and eventually you would end up in the same point (which i'm 100% sure would happen), what would you state then? Still a flat earth?
4. Yes, but i'm talking theoretically, if you would be able to make a whole under all these crusts, where would u end up?
5. So you actually say those pictures taken at the south pole are all fake, and all those ppl are liars even tho they live among us, are they part of the conspiracy? If it's there, why noone saw the wall? In billions of years?
6. You mean planes are flying all over the earth 24/7 just to emit these signals? Who flies them?

Lurk more and spell better.

I'm not here from grammar lessons, gtfo and die in fire. ty.

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2007, 01:31:51 PM »
It's fun to read the FAQ, cause everything is a conspiracy.

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2007, 01:34:50 PM »
Lurk more and spell better.

I'm not here from grammar lessons, gtfo and die in fire. ty.

Fine, spell how you want, put sentences together like a moron and go on posting those already posted-to-death questions. STFU AND LURK MOAR.
Yes, quite.  No one would ever claim to be someone they're not in their profile name.

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2007, 02:40:24 PM »
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1. I'm really surprised.

The Flat Earth Society has existed long before NASA was even created. The Flat Earth Society is over 150 years old, created by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham who was the first to provide scientific and indisputable evidence demonstrating the flatness of the earth.

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2. RE was proven with much more experiments, and much more ppl, can u be so ignorant and overlook those?

RE has no experiments. Just observations.

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3. You didn't understood my question. If you had the opportunity to test this, get the right equipment, to go south from a point and eventually you would end up in the same point (which i'm 100% sure would happen), what would you state then? Still a flat earth?

Nope, that would not happen. Going south would get you lost into the perpetual tundra of ice and snow beyond the Ice Wall.

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4. Yes, but i'm talking theoretically, if you would be able to make a whole under all these crusts, where would u end up?

Dead.

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5. So you actually say those pictures taken at the south pole are all fake, and all those ppl are liars even tho they live among us, are they part of the conspiracy? If it's there, why noone saw the wall? In billions of years?

Plenty of people have seen the 150 foot Ice Wall at the coast of Antarctica. It's what you know as the Ice Shelves.

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6. You mean planes are flying all over the earth 24/7 just to emit these signals? Who flies them?

Satellites exist 100 nautical miles above the sea level of the earth, rotating around the hub of the earth.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2007, 02:43:41 PM by Tom Bishop »

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2007, 02:46:18 PM »
Remember guys, the conspiracy screwed up focault's penduluum, messed with Eratosthene's head, and killed Magellen and commandeered his ship in the phillipenes so they could make it seem like the earth was round.
Ignoring the truth does not make it go away, it just makes you ignorant and disempowered.

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2007, 02:54:16 PM »
It's fun to read the FAQ, cause everything is a conspiracy.

No, it's not ???

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2007, 03:54:11 PM »
Remember guys, the conspiracy screwed up focault's penduluum, messed with Eratosthene's head, and killed Magellen and commandeered his ship in the phillipenes so they could make it seem like the earth was round.

Why did the conspiracy kill Magellan when going around the Earth in an east/west fashion is perfectly possible in FE?
OMG!

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2007, 03:57:29 PM »
its part of the conspiracy  :o
Ignoring the truth does not make it go away, it just makes you ignorant and disempowered.

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2007, 03:58:08 PM »
its part of the conspiracy  :o

Wow, I had no idea it stretched that far!  We're all gona die!   0.o
OMG!

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2007, 01:50:17 AM »
I didn't find any explications to how days work :)

Looking at all this forum, seeing this proofs, experiments and comments they seem so forced, trying to somehow explain everything, conspiracy and stuff... Why are you trying to fake this? The RE model and everything around it is perfect. The stars are globes, the sun is, the moon is, every thing in the space orbits and is a globe, SO WHY THE EARTH IS FLAT?
Why aren't no documentaries about the ice wall, why aren't you going to explore things, why are you staying on a forum, and screaming here? Why don't you all make some money and go into the space and see things for yourself? Why don't you gather some money and hire a plane to go around the earth (with some pro pilot and pro equipment)? Why don't you write about this oficially? The conspiracy? lol.

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2007, 04:11:44 AM »
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1. I'm really surprised.

The Flat Earth Society has existed long before NASA was even created. The Flat Earth Society is over 150 years old, created by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham who was the first to provide scientific and indisputable evidence demonstrating the flatness of the earth.

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2. RE was proven with much more experiments, and much more ppl, can u be so ignorant and overlook those?

RE has no experiments. Just observations.

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3. You didn't understood my question. If you had the opportunity to test this, get the right equipment, to go south from a point and eventually you would end up in the same point (which i'm 100% sure would happen), what would you state then? Still a flat earth?

Nope, that would not happen. Going south would get you lost into the perpetual tundra of ice and snow beyond the Ice Wall.

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4. Yes, but i'm talking theoretically, if you would be able to make a whole under all these crusts, where would u end up?

Dead.

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5. So you actually say those pictures taken at the south pole are all fake, and all those ppl are liars even tho they live among us, are they part of the conspiracy? If it's there, why noone saw the wall? In billions of years?

Plenty of people have seen the 150 foot Ice Wall at the coast of Antarctica. It's what you know as the Ice Shelves.

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6. You mean planes are flying all over the earth 24/7 just to emit these signals? Who flies them?

Satellites exist 100 nautical miles above the sea level of the earth, rotating around the hub of the earth.

And now...the rest of the story...

(there is none)
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2007, 05:15:08 AM »
Remember guys, the conspiracy screwed up focault's penduluum, messed with Eratosthene's head, and killed Magellen and commandeered his ship in the phillipenes so they could make it seem like the earth was round.

Why did the conspiracy kill Magellan when going around the Earth in an east/west fashion is perfectly possible in FE?

They didn't like his attitude
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2007, 09:43:13 AM »
that "first test" is just stupid. It holds no scientific merit and lies within perameters that prove a flat earth. i.e. if the earth was flat the man would not only have been able to see the the flag, but also hong kong, paris and most of the himalayas from on top of the nearest large hill.

Also, although most of the FEers seem to have a sane sense of right and wrong about most topics, TomB does not. He's just nuts! 
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2007, 09:46:40 AM »
that "first test" is just stupid. It holds no scientific merit and lies within perameters that prove a flat earth. i.e. if the earth was flat the man would not only have been able to see the the flag, but also hong kong, paris and most of the himalayas from on top of the nearest large hill.

Also, although most of the FEers seem to have a sane sense of right and wrong about most topics, TomB does not. He's just nuts! 

No to all.

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2007, 10:08:38 AM »
The credits are rolling as a blank screen.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2007, 10:25:49 AM »
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that "first test" is just stupid. It holds no scientific merit and lies within perameters that prove a flat earth. i.e. if the earth was flat the man would not only have been able to see the the flag, but also hong kong, paris and most of the himalayas from on top of the nearest large hill.

You are assuming that the atmosphere is perfectly transparent. It's not.

You are assuming that the resolution of the human eye could even make out a relatively small structure tens of thousands of miles away. It can't.

You are assuming that the distance to the horizon line is infinite on a Flat Earth. It isn't.
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Re: anoter one
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2007, 10:27:23 AM »
But your response is.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2007, 10:28:57 AM »
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that "first test" is just stupid. It holds no scientific merit and lies within perameters that prove a flat earth. i.e. if the earth was flat the man would not only have been able to see the the flag, but also hong kong, paris and most of the himalayas from on top of the nearest large hill.

You are assuming that the atmosphere is perfectly transparent. It's not.
But it is transparent enough for your panorama from Mount Everest, the one "without fog", to show that the horizon can indeed be below eye level. But it is transparent enough for Trekky to document that curvature of the Earth in RE Primer experiment #0013.

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2007, 10:29:30 AM »
I didn't find any explications to how days work :)

Looking at all this forum, seeing this proofs, experiments and comments they seem so forced, trying to somehow explain everything, conspiracy and stuff... Why are you trying to fake this? The RE model and everything around it is perfect. The stars are globes, the sun is, the moon is, every thing in the space orbits and is a globe, SO WHY THE EARTH IS FLAT?
Why aren't no documentaries about the ice wall, why aren't you going to explore things, why are you staying on a forum, and screaming here? Why don't you all make some money and go into the space and see things for yourself? Why don't you gather some money and hire a plane to go around the earth (with some pro pilot and pro equipment)? Why don't you write about this oficially? The conspiracy? lol.

answer?

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2007, 10:51:08 AM »
I didn't find any explications to how days work :)

Looking at all this forum, seeing this proofs, experiments and comments they seem so forced, trying to somehow explain everything, conspiracy and stuff... Why are you trying to fake this? The RE model and everything around it is perfect. The stars are globes, the sun is, the moon is, every thing in the space orbits and is a globe, SO WHY THE EARTH IS FLAT?
Why aren't no documentaries about the ice wall, why aren't you going to explore things, why are you staying on a forum, and screaming here? Why don't you all make some money and go into the space and see things for yourself? Why don't you gather some money and hire a plane to go around the earth (with some pro pilot and pro equipment)? Why don't you write about this oficially? The conspiracy? lol.

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It's all a conspiracy, didn't you read the FAQ??  They won't let you get near there to do your research and where are you gonna get the money to do all of that.  Why don't you take the money you could get to do that research and go to school and get an education on grammar and double negatives.  Don't come in here with that uneducated bullshit!   :D Have a nice day
I am really starting to see why no one takes Tom seriously....

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2007, 03:18:39 PM »
Why don't you gather some money and hire a plane to go around the earth (with some pro pilot and pro equipment)?
Because that's rather expensive.


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Re: anoter one
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2007, 03:20:58 PM »
I didn't find any explications to how days work :)

Looking at all this forum, seeing this proofs, experiments and comments they seem so forced, trying to somehow explain everything, conspiracy and stuff... Why are you trying to fake this? The RE model and everything around it is perfect. The stars are globes, the sun is, the moon is, every thing in the space orbits and is a globe, SO WHY THE EARTH IS FLAT?
Why aren't no documentaries about the ice wall, why aren't you going to explore things, why are you staying on a forum, and screaming here? Why don't you all make some money and go into the space and see things for yourself? Why don't you gather some money and hire a plane to go around the earth (with some pro pilot and pro equipment)? Why don't you write about this oficially? The conspiracy? lol.

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It's all a conspiracy, didn't you read the FAQ??  They won't let you get near there to do your research and where are you gonna get the money to do all of that.  Why don't you take the money you could get to do that research and go to school and get an education on grammar and double negatives.  Don't come in here with that uneducated bullshit!   :D Have a nice day

Sure, conspiracy, ppl are all over that 72km icewall with machine guns...

Why don't u fucking go there and see for yourself that you beleive in a fucking illogical bullshit? Why don't u all donate 10$ and send one of you there and make a fucking video, so all of you know the real world and stop hiding behind this forum? And stop that fucking grammar shit... english is not my primary language, and i never learned it in school, so i'm pretty fucking satisfied with my knowledge. So die. Your arguments fail every time, but u keep forcing it.

Answer my question.

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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2007, 03:57:39 PM »
I didn't find any explications to how days work :)

Looking at all this forum, seeing this proofs, experiments and comments they seem so forced, trying to somehow explain everything, conspiracy and stuff... Why are you trying to fake this? The RE model and everything around it is perfect. The stars are globes, the sun is, the moon is, every thing in the space orbits and is a globe, SO WHY THE EARTH IS FLAT?
Why aren't no documentaries about the ice wall, why aren't you going to explore things, why are you staying on a forum, and screaming here? Why don't you all make some money and go into the space and see things for yourself? Why don't you gather some money and hire a plane to go around the earth (with some pro pilot and pro equipment)? Why don't you write about this oficially? The conspiracy? lol.

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It's all a conspiracy, didn't you read the FAQ??  They won't let you get near there to do your research and where are you gonna get the money to do all of that.  Why don't you take the money you could get to do that research and go to school and get an education on grammar and double negatives.  Don't come in here with that uneducated bullshit!   :D Have a nice day

Sure, conspiracy, ppl are all over that 72km icewall with machine guns...

Why don't u fucking go there and see for yourself that you beleive in a fucking illogical bullshit? Why don't u all donate 10$ and send one of you there and make a fucking video, so all of you know the real world and stop hiding behind this forum? And stop that fucking grammar shit... english is not my primary language, and i never learned it in school, so i'm pretty fucking satisfied with my knowledge. So die. Your arguments fail every time, but u keep forcing it.

Answer my question.

Alright you little shit-stain. For the THIRD time now, you will NOT get the answer you seek!


Complete nonsense, anyone?
« Last Edit: August 24, 2007, 04:00:01 PM by Midnight »
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: anoter one
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2007, 05:59:10 PM »
Hy, i just find this forum, and i'm laughing very badly here, but one small step to crying also, when i read all these.
First and most important question:
Is this "organization" for real or you're just joking and having some fun with it?
So, if you're really serious about this (i'm a little scarred thinking about it), can you prove any of this? You say all the photos and theories are fake/controversy, but at least they have some proof, you on the other hand, nothing.
I have so many questions, i can't even write them all...
So what would happen if someone would go south (with the equipment provided by your organization, and some of your ppl as witness) all the way till he ends up right where he started? Wouldn't that prove that he was walking on a globe?
What would happen if someone would make a whole on the bottom of the ocean (if it would be possible)? All the water would jut fly away in the space and the oceans would dry?
All the people who were at the south and north pole (you can't say it's fake, cuz i know some ppl who actually been there), didn't they see the "wall"? If it's that huge, how could everyone miss it?
If there are no satellites, and we receive the signals from some antennas, how can i have those signals in some poor country in a small village or in the desert/ocean with no civilization at all?

etc etc etc


Shut up!                         Just  shut up!                        ...                                                 You had me at "Hy."

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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2007, 11:56:55 PM »

Shut up!                         Just  shut up!                        ...                                                 You had me at "Hy."

So no more arguments, therefore you flame me? I see this whole organization sink like the Titanic, the only thing keeping it alive, is that people think you are crazy, and don't give you enough attention to make an effort and prove you wrong on every argument and experiment you have sustaining your earth.



Alright you little shit-stain. For the THIRD time now, you will NOT get the answer you seek!


Complete nonsense, anyone?

Who are you? What do you want?

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« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2007, 12:00:41 AM »
Why answer your questions when they have been answered many times in the past?  It's much more fun just to make fun of you for not knowing how to look for information.
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« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2007, 02:31:10 AM »
The world must bow down and everyone speak english!!
I am really starting to see why no one takes Tom seriously....