A look into the Conspiracy

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2007, 02:08:21 PM »
Those images come from the International Space Station. They aren't images from the Soviet Space Agency. They're from the Russian Space Agency. See the "ISS" in the image name? That stands for "International Space Station."

You still haven't explained why we can see the ISS and the Space Shuttle from Earth, if they both don't exist.

Also, just for fun, here's probably the earliest recorded image of outer space, made in 1946 from a V2 rocket.

http://www.airspacemag.com/multimedia/video/V2%20Photography%20of%20Earth.php

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2007, 02:09:19 PM »
The conspiracy will kill Tom for that post.

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2007, 02:13:09 PM »
Those images come from the International Space Station. They aren't images from the Soviet Space Agency. They're from the Russian Space Agency. See the "ISS" in the image name? That stands for "International Space Station."

You still haven't explained why we can see the ISS and the Space Shuttle from Earth, if they both don't exist.

Also, just for fun, here's probably the earliest recorded image of outer space, made in 1946 from a V2 rocket.

http://www.airspacemag.com/multimedia/video/V2%20Photography%20of%20Earth.php
Tom, if you watch that video if clearly shows a Round Earth like we've seen in photos.  The conspiracy surely didn't exist in the 1940s, we were too concerned with World War II.  Our first photos of Earth, and they strongly point toward a Round Earth.

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2007, 02:15:31 PM »
Tom, if you watch that video if clearly shows a Round Earth like we've seen in photos.  The conspiracy surely didn't exist in the 1940s, we were too concerned with World War II.  Our first photos of Earth, and they strongly point toward a Round Earth.
It's been edited since then, duh. No one was paying attention to the shape of the Earth in the video at the time. After all, people of the forties are notorious for their short attention spans and general ADD-ness.
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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2007, 02:16:16 PM »
This thread was a complete fail.  It didn't make sense from the beginning, and Tom has gotten disproved so many times it is not even funny.

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2007, 02:17:12 PM »
Tom, if you watch that video if clearly shows a Round Earth like we've seen in photos.  The conspiracy surely didn't exist in the 1940s, we were too concerned with World War II.  Our first photos of Earth, and they strongly point toward a Round Earth.
It's been edited since then, duh. No one was paying attention to the shape of the Earth in the video at the time. After all, people of the forties are notorious for their short attention spans and general ADD-ness.

So, when the Russians got the footage back from the V-2 rockets, no one at all was like,"Holy SH*T, the Earth is flat!"?

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2007, 02:23:29 PM »
So, when the Russians got the footage back from the V-2 rockets, no one at all was like,"Holy SH*T, the Earth is flat!"?
They wouldn't have. Too much vodka.

BTW, wasn't it the Germans with the V# rockets? In that case, too much jager.
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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2007, 04:38:51 PM »
BTW, wasn't it the Germans with the V# rockets? In that case, too much jager.

Yea, however I've read in an article that they were not interested in using the V2 rockets in the name of science, and thus never attached cameras to them.

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« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2007, 04:57:19 PM »
They were pretty much bombs that could fly fast and far. The technology could be extended to space (and was by Russia) but the germans were busy bombing Britain and other places.

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2007, 04:59:15 PM »
Stupid war...
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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2007, 05:01:06 PM »
Stupid war...
There's yet to be any other type.

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« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2007, 05:02:09 PM »
Damn Germaniams

And damn Geraniums as well
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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2007, 05:03:38 PM »
Stupid war...
There's yet to be any other type.

Maybe one day....erm....somehow :P
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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2007, 05:06:53 PM »
Hows about the ongoing war between me and the people who hate spam?
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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2007, 05:08:58 PM »
I laughed pretty hard at the point of America not possibly having the technology of nukes.

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2007, 07:36:50 PM »
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I laughed pretty hard at the point of America not possibly having the technology of nukes.

There is a striking possibility.

Do you think it's only communists and fascists who distribute and produce propaganda designed to portray themselves as more powerful and technically achieved than they really are? The truth is that America produces propaganda all the time. Each and every word out of the president's mouth is carefully designed and calculated beforehand by his advisers. During the Cold War the Russians had themselves convinced that America was bluffing about its achievements. Likewise, America had itself convinced that the Russians were bluffing about theirs.

The Cold War wasn't a war of technological advancement, but a war of propaganda. Creating propaganda is vastly easier than investing trillions into what is perhaps a fruitless or impossible cause. During the 1950's the scientific publications of the time were filled with imaginative future tech "currently in development" by the military. From Nuclear tipped bazookas to antimatter bombs capable of eradicating entire countries at a time, there was a constant stream of disinformation flowing from the depths of the Pentagon.

See this thread: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11293.0
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« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2007, 07:42:44 PM »
I read that thread. It is about the 3rd stupidest thing I've ever seen (after Apollo Hoaxers and FEers).

More than 140,000 people were killed in Hiroshima...if you'd actually done any research into this yourself you would understand why even the worst fire bombing would not account for the effects of 'Little Boy'.

Nothing better expected of course. You now fail at science, math and history. Let's just hope you're fucking good at geology...
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« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2007, 07:48:05 PM »
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I read that thread. It is about the 3rd stupidest thing I've ever seen (after Apollo Hoaxers and FEers).

Oh that's right, I forgot Gin. You will blindly believe anything the government or media tells you like a dog to the whistle.

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More than 140,000 people were killed in Hiroshima...if you'd actually done any research into this yourself you would understand why even the worst fire bombing would not account for the effects of 'Little Boy'.

Just who do you think tallied up and told us about the deaths?

Japan originally gave very different death estimates than what America told the world. Someone was producing false information, obviously. Perhaps both countries were producing false information.

Why do you think America is so honest?
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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2007, 07:57:04 PM »
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Oh that's right, I forgot Gin. You blindly believe anything the government tells you like a dog to the whistle.

For the last time: My government is not your government. America is not the centre of the world.
FEers blindly disbelieve the government, using their own conviction as a circular proof for a conspiracy.

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Just who do you think tallied up and told us about the deaths?

Again, there is no 'us'. The Japanese government gave original estimates. Of course the estimates vary, as more people are discovered alive or dead (or more people actually die...radiation sickness is mercilessly slow sometimes). Nuclear technology exists in many countries, as any intelligent person (know any?) will be able to tell you.

I suppose, like a flock of startled birds (I can do animal metaphors too! Look mummy!) you scatter from any government-endorsed information whether or not it is reasonable or there is evidence for its falsification. You must think your mistrust of government makes you smart, but in fact taking any position that is one way or the other is foolish.

You can keep claiming conspiracies (and yet pretend that you are some kind of scientist?) or you can just leave....
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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2007, 08:16:42 PM »
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Again, there is no 'us'.

Is America allied with your country? If so, then our countries have common goals and ambitions. As an ally, our countries meet secretly and scheme.

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America is not the centre of the world.

Yes it is. America is the only existing superpower. Here, I'll put it in perspective for you:

There are 192 countries on earth. The United States of America has bases in 130 of them.

How many countries does your homeland have military bases in?

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The Japanese government gave original estimates. Of course the estimates vary, as more people are discovered alive or dead (or more people actually die...radiation sickness is mercilessly slow sometimes). Nuclear technology exists in many countries, as any intelligent person (know any?) will be able to tell you.

When a country claims to have Nuclear Technology it's a scare tactic, nothing more. Whether or not it actually does is debatable. Claiming to have Nuclear weapons is something which instantly increases a country's status in global politics. With a threat of a fiery annihilation looming down your enemy's throat, victory is assured. That's exactly what we are told North Korea is doing after all.

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You must think your mistrust of government makes you smart, but in fact taking any position that is one way or the other is foolish.

There's nothing smart about blindly believing the word of a massive powerful entity with inconceivable motives. A government is an entity which controls the flow of money, the education of its people, the outlets of the media, and wages war with whomever it sees fit. The Government can and does murder at will in order to satisfy its desires.

Distrust is key to all global politics. Never trust a government.
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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2007, 10:03:59 PM »
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America is not the centre of the world.

Yes it is. America is the only existing superpower. Here, I'll put it in perspective for you:

There are 192 countries on earth. The United States of America has bases in 130 of them.

How many countries does your homeland have military bases in?
On behalf of all my country's people, I ask your forgiveness for TomB's stupid statement. Please disregard it as the unwarranted opinion of a stupid jerk.

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #51 on: May 31, 2007, 10:21:41 PM »
17 november doesnt know what the fuck he was talking about.  Search his posts, hes just antisemitic.  Look at his posts.  He says Einstein is wrong and all the stuff he came up with is "jewish propaganda".

Nuclear bombs do exist, and they did way back in WWII. 
ANNIHILATOR OF  SHIFTER

It's no slur if it's fact.

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« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2007, 05:26:28 AM »
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America is not the centre of the world.

Yes it is. America is the only existing superpower. Here, I'll put it in perspective for you:

There are 192 countries on earth. The United States of America has bases in 130 of them.

How many countries does your homeland have military bases in?
On behalf of all my country's people, I ask your forgiveness for TomB's stupid statement. Please disregard it as the unwarranted opinion of a stupid jerk.

He's sort of right though....
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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2007, 05:39:09 AM »
My avatar is the Tsar Bomba.  Does it not exist, Tom?

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2007, 06:05:21 AM »
I don't think the US ever landed on the moon. Tom does bring up very good points in his arguement... but because of his reputation here... anyway not getting into Tom right now... But yeah, we faked the moon landings because the Soviets were so far ahead of us in space travel. Way too many errors with the moon landings. It's sickening how NASA is lying about landing on the moon. I invite anyone to get the world's strongest telescope and show me the original landing sites. Of course that technology isn't around yet. I don't trust our government... they also helped kill JFK.
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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #55 on: June 01, 2007, 06:08:24 AM »
You're not getting into Tom right now? He's always getting into you, the dirty bastard
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« Reply #56 on: June 01, 2007, 06:09:15 AM »
I took that in a very wrong way at first... like penis in the bum way....  :'(
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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #57 on: June 01, 2007, 06:10:50 AM »
As we all know, the entire premise of this website is that NASA is a fraudulent entity. Nothing said or given by NASA or its collaborators is to be trusted. The American Government has great incentive to portray the illusion of space travel. It is this from

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Is anyone able to find a picture of the earth taken by the Soviet Space Program?

Why do yo want to see pictrures if you say they aren't evidence?

There is no conspiracy, retard. Check this thread and really read it this time!
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=13526.0

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2007, 09:23:13 AM »
Oh, but there is a conspiracy!  We're 100% certain!

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Re: A look into the Conspiracy
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2007, 09:24:00 AM »
There could be a conspiracy...
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