Why did you come to this site? and other questions...

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:08:47 PM

Quote from: Gin on April 27, 2007, 04:01:55 PM

Haha! Please read my posts full of logic and proofs to see how much respect you FEers give such trivial concepts...

We did, and the logic and proofs just don't make sense.  I'm sorry that all that work you did didn't result in us becoming round earth theorists like you would have hoped it would.  But we must pursue the truth at all costs, even if it means disappointing our flat earth friends.

Do you ever get tired of trying to act smarter then you are?

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We did, and the logic and proofs just don't make sense.  I'm sorry that all that work you did didn't result in us becoming round earth theorists like you would have hoped it would.  But we must pursue the truth at all costs, even if it means disappointing our flat earth friends.

Care to explain why? In the relevant threads of course. That means explaining why rather than just hand-waiving it with 'perspective effects' when it has been shown they could not account for what is observed.

Quote from: sokarul on April 27, 2007, 04:10:53 PM

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:08:47 PM

Quote from: Gin on April 27, 2007, 04:01:55 PM

Haha! Please read my posts full of logic and proofs to see how much respect you FEers give such trivial concepts...

We did, and the logic and proofs just don't make sense.  I'm sorry that all that work you did didn't result in us becoming round earth theorists like you would have hoped it would.  But we must pursue the truth at all costs, even if it means disappointing our flat earth friends.

Do you ever get tired of trying to act smarter then you are?

Sokarul... you're one of the round earth people that I could truly live without on this flat earth.

Don't you ever get tired of coming here?  Oh yeah, you come here for fun and you're bored.  But every time you open your mouth, you sound like you are irritated and frustrated.  I am not responsible for how you feel, kiddo.  Now why don't you go watch some TV or some porn so that we adults can talk.

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:13:51 PM

Quote from: sokarul on April 27, 2007, 04:10:53 PM

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:08:47 PM

Quote from: Gin on April 27, 2007, 04:01:55 PM

Haha! Please read my posts full of logic and proofs to see how much respect you FEers give such trivial concepts...

We did, and the logic and proofs just don't make sense.  I'm sorry that all that work you did didn't result in us becoming round earth theorists like you would have hoped it would.  But we must pursue the truth at all costs, even if it means disappointing our flat earth friends.

Do you ever get tired of trying to act smarter then you are?

Sokarul... you're one of the round earth people that I could truly live without on this flat earth.

Don't you ever get tired of coming here?  Oh yeah, you come here for fun and you're bored.  But every time you open your mouth, you sound like you are irritated and frustrated.  I am not responsible for how you feel, kiddo.  Now why don't you go watch some TV or some porn so that we adults can talk.

Uhmm, I'm technically not an adult yet.  Does that mean I should shut up?  Anyway, what's with all the fighting here?  I thought this was FE debate and discussion, not tear-each-other-apartathon.

Quote from: sokarul on April 27, 2007, 04:10:53 PM

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:08:47 PM

Quote from: Gin on April 27, 2007, 04:01:55 PM

Haha! Please read my posts full of logic and proofs to see how much respect you FEers give such trivial concepts...

We did, and the logic and proofs just don't make sense.  I'm sorry that all that work you did didn't result in us becoming round earth theorists like you would have hoped it would.  But we must pursue the truth at all costs, even if it means disappointing our flat earth friends.

Do you ever get tired of trying to act smarter then you are?

Sokarul... you're one of the round earth people that I could truly live without on this flat earth.

Don't you ever get tired of coming here?  Oh yeah, you come here for fun and you're bored.  But every time you open your mouth, you sound like you are irritated and frustrated.  I am not responsible for how you feel, kiddo.  Now why don't you go watch some TV or some porn so that we adults can talk.

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:13:51 PM

Quote from: sokarul on April 27, 2007, 04:10:53 PM

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:08:47 PM

Quote from: Gin on April 27, 2007, 04:01:55 PM

Haha! Please read my posts full of logic and proofs to see how much respect you FEers give such trivial concepts...

We did, and the logic and proofs just don't make sense.  I'm sorry that all that work you did didn't result in us becoming round earth theorists like you would have hoped it would.  But we must pursue the truth at all costs, even if it means disappointing our flat earth friends.

Do you ever get tired of trying to act smarter then you are?

Sokarul... you're one of the round earth people that I could truly live without on this flat earth.

Don't you ever get tired of coming here?  Oh yeah, you come here for fun and you're bored.  But every time you open your mouth, you sound like you are irritated and frustrated.  I am not responsible for how you feel, kiddo.  Now why don't you go watch some TV or some porn so that we adults can talk.

Nope, I came here because someone posted this site on another forum.  I will be here until the site closes. 

You keep talking about the scientific method yet you are probably a business major working in a cubical with no windows in sight. 

Scientists observe something, make a theory, and then figure out a way to test the theory.  You make up theories from stuff you haven't even seen and then just assume they are right.  The only scientific method that is wrong is yours. 

And BTW I'm 22, not exactly a kid.

No, no, EIRD, you sound a lot more mature than people like sokarul and akira.  You get to hang with us.  You're cool.

And I agree, I don't understand why it also degenerate into this... I mean, come on man... So many of you (most?) think we are totally nuts here... but what the hell did you expect?  Did you guys expect to come here and have everyone nod their heads when you prove round earth theory?  Some of you really need to work on setting your expectations.

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No, no, EIRD, you sound a lot more mature than people like sokarul and akira.  You get to hang with us.  You're cool.

Haha, anyone can "hang" with anyone here, you're not stopping anybody.

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And I agree, I don't understand why it also degenerate into this... I mean, come on man... So many of you (most?) think we are totally nuts here... but what the hell did you expect?  Did you guys expect to come here and have everyone nod their heads when you prove round earth theory?  Some of you really need to work on setting your expectations.

To put it bluntly, yes.

That's what they all say... Someone posted about this on another forum... but that still doesn't explain why you spend so much time here... I read stuff posted by people all the time, and I don't go following them over there.  Could it be because you to question what you have been taught?

No my theories are based on what I see with my own two eyes.

And 22 is a kid... when I was your age, I didn't who the hell I was (I also thought the earth was round--can you believe that?)

The threads you request are "The Unrefuted" (an amalgamation of previous arguments that went without any satisfactory rebuttal) and "Photographic evidence for a Round Earth".

Quote from: sokarul on April 27, 2007, 04:21:38 PM

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:13:51 PM

Quote from: sokarul on April 27, 2007, 04:10:53 PM

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:08:47 PM

Quote from: Gin on April 27, 2007, 04:01:55 PM

Haha! Please read my posts full of logic and proofs to see how much respect you FEers give such trivial concepts...

We did, and the logic and proofs just don't make sense.  I'm sorry that all that work you did didn't result in us becoming round earth theorists like you would have hoped it would.  But we must pursue the truth at all costs, even if it means disappointing our flat earth friends.

Do you ever get tired of trying to act smarter then you are?

Sokarul... you're one of the round earth people that I could truly live without on this flat earth.

Don't you ever get tired of coming here?  Oh yeah, you come here for fun and you're bored.  But every time you open your mouth, you sound like you are irritated and frustrated.  I am not responsible for how you feel, kiddo.  Now why don't you go watch some TV or some porn so that we adults can talk.

Nope, I came here because someone posted this site on another forum.  I will be here until the site closes. 

You keep talking about the scientific method yet you are probably a business major working in a cubical with no windows in sight. 

Scientists observe something, make a theory, and then figure out a way to test the theory.  You make up theories from stuff you haven't even seen and then just assume they are right.  The only scientific method that is wrong is yours. 

And BTW I'm 22, not exactly a kid.

That's what they all say... Someone posted about this on another forum... but that still doesn't explain why you spend so much time here... I read stuff posted by people all the time, and I don't go following them over there.  Could it be because you to question what you have been taught?


No my theories are based on what I see with my own two eyes.

And 22 is a kid... when I was your age, I didn't who the hell I was (I also thought the earth was round--can you believe that?)

Well then, you are going to be very disappointed in life.  I bet you throw your slippers at the TV whenever you hear something you don't like. Wink

No two people see eye to eye on everything.  Try arguing like this in any relationship, and let's see how far your "logic" will go.

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That's what they all say... Someone posted about this on another forum... but that still doesn't explain why you spend so much time here... I read stuff posted by people all the time, and I don't go following them over there.  Could it be because you to question what you have been taught?

You're in no position to talk this way. If someone says it was posted on another forum, as for as you know, thats true. Just because someone posts a lot, or is logged in for a long time doesn't mean they are at the site or even at their computer for a long time. I come here everyday for a while, because i want to see what FE'rs will say next.

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No my theories are based on what I see with my own two eyes.

No they're not. You frequently ask Tom to come over and bail you out with his "book that he quotes from". Obviously, your own two eyes aren't enough.

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And 22 is a kid... when I was your age, I didn't who the hell I was (I also thought the earth was round--can you believe that?)

22 is a legal adult. It doesn't matter what you were when you were his age, he's not you and vice versa.

I didn't post in The Unrefuted.  In the Photographic thread, I was the one who questioned the height of Everest.  Please learn to distinguish who posts what before telling someone to answer.

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:24:00 PM

Quote from: sokarul on April 27, 2007, 04:21:38 PM

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:13:51 PM

Quote from: sokarul on April 27, 2007, 04:10:53 PM

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:08:47 PM

Quote from: Gin on April 27, 2007, 04:01:55 PM

Haha! Please read my posts full of logic and proofs to see how much respect you FEers give such trivial concepts...

We did, and the logic and proofs just don't make sense.  I'm sorry that all that work you did didn't result in us becoming round earth theorists like you would have hoped it would.  But we must pursue the truth at all costs, even if it means disappointing our flat earth friends.

Do you ever get tired of trying to act smarter then you are?

Sokarul... you're one of the round earth people that I could truly live without on this flat earth.

Don't you ever get tired of coming here?  Oh yeah, you come here for fun and you're bored.  But every time you open your mouth, you sound like you are irritated and frustrated.  I am not responsible for how you feel, kiddo.  Now why don't you go watch some TV or some porn so that we adults can talk.

Nope, I came here because someone posted this site on another forum.  I will be here until the site closes. 

You keep talking about the scientific method yet you are probably a business major working in a cubical with no windows in sight. 

Scientists observe something, make a theory, and then figure out a way to test the theory.  You make up theories from stuff you haven't even seen and then just assume they are right.  The only scientific method that is wrong is yours. 

And BTW I'm 22, not exactly a kid.

That's what they all say... Someone posted about this on another forum... but that still doesn't explain why you spend so much time here... I read stuff posted by people all the time, and I don't go following them over there.  Could it be because you to question what you have been taught?


No my theories are based on what I see with my own two eyes.

And 22 is a kid... when I was your age, I didn't who the hell I was (I also thought the earth was round--can you believe that?)

So you have seen Mt Everest?  Thats why you know they blew it up?  You saw it when it was higher then it is now?  I may have never been up high enough to see the curavture but I have seen countless picture. I have seen hours of video.  I have seen what photoshop can and cant do.  I have seen pictures from hobbyists with expensive telescopes.  I have seen a planet transit the sun.  I believe in technology over a book that was written when people still thought the moon was made of cheese.

I have never doubted the earth was round.  But then again, I didn't sleep through school.  I have thought about the evidence for both sides but I just cant accept a shadow object blocks out the moon during an eclipse.   


I'm always on because I have a badass computer that is always on and my school has no less then 7 computer labs. 

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I didn't post in The Unrefuted.  In the Photographic thread, I was the one who questioned the height of Everest.  Please learn to distinguish who posts what before telling someone to answer.

I know you didn't post. My point is that you and your fellow FEers have entirely failed to show why it is wrong...

And questioning the height of everest did nothing but lead us off topic for about 3 pages.

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Well then, you are going to be very disappointed in life.  I bet you throw your slippers at the TV whenever you hear something you don't like. Wink

I just turn the channel actually. This is you coming back to accusing me of being angry and that i need it to be managed.

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No two people see eye to eye on everything.  Try arguing like this in any relationship, and let's see how far your "logic" will go.

No one ever asked an FE'r to agree with everything they say. I say the earth is round, many people on here agree. Are you telling me it's not logical for the proving of something to be true should convince another that it is true? With this "logic" nothing is true. With this "logic" proof isn't proof. You're stuck in a paradox.

I am in a position to talk this way.  He attacked me first.  Don't expect me to kiss his ass if he attacks.

Oh, asking for quote is bailing me out.  Hahahahaha, I'm on trial here?  Okay, errrr

"Obviously, your own two eyes aren't enough."  <--- if this isn't an attack I don't know what is... oh but I deserved it right... its okay for some of you to talk trash but not me

It's amazing how many younglings are here who think they know everything.  That's really my point.  Did it ever cross your mind that I might be playing devil's advocate?  Nooooooooooo..... Can't be... I'm Tom.... noooooo

But you totally led the discussion away from any real debate. My argument had nothing to do with everest's actual height, just with its status as the highest mountain around.

But you totally led the discussion away from any real debate. My argument had nothing to do with everest's actual height, just with its status as the highest mountain around.

Quote from: Gin on April 27, 2007, 04:40:00 PM

But you totally led the discussion away from any real debate. My argument had nothing to do with everest's actual height, just with its status as the highest mountain around.

It is the tallest mountain around.  There is no reason to doubt it.  Ask people who have climbed it and I bet they'll say it's the most they've climbed.

I dare you to talk to a fundamentalist and try to convert them.  Try it.

It's not logical if you don't know where the other person is coming from.  No one just accepts what someone they never met claims to be the truth.  Never.

Hold it, time out...don't you guys all think you are taking this way too seriously?  My God, people chill out.... maybe it's time to admit the truth?

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:47:26 PM

Hold it, time out...don't you guys all think you are taking this way too seriously?  My God, people chill out.... maybe it's time to admit the truth?

Taking what too seriously?

Quote from: EIRD on April 27, 2007, 04:48:27 PM

Quote from: Interstellar Vacuum Cleaner Debunker (formerly TruthSeeker) on April 27, 2007, 04:47:26 PM

Hold it, time out...don't you guys all think you are taking this way too seriously?  My God, people chill out.... maybe it's time to admit the truth?

Taking what too seriously?

This flat earth vs round earth discussion.  It's not the end of the world you know, regardless of who "wins" this discussion.

What if I told you I came here to play devil's advocate and see how far I could take flat earth theory?  Or are you guys just SOOOOOOOOOO convinced that I am Tom at this point that the truth wouldn't even go through your head?