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2) Some serious logic impairment on the part of many of the participants on this forum. The same impairment that insists on the earth being flat besides all the evidence to the contrary.If I was allowed to display the sculptures
Do you have some kind of reading impairment? It was made pretty clear in the S&C thread you started that you're allowed to display the sculptures but that they were removed from imageshack (and that you didn't figure that out for yourself says a lot about your mental capabilities).
How many people buy into this and what are your reasons for buying into it?
There appears to be 3 types of people on here. Flat Earth believers, spinning Round Earth believers and people like myself which go with a stationary round Earth, so what exactly do you think keeps the Sun burning.
I have my own theory, which could be absolute nonesense but equally it could be closer to the truth, yet I'll wait until I see what others think that the Sun does and how it keeps burning and what fuel is making it burn.
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Obviously I have read about the Bedford experiment, and if you you think waves and swells affect the results, there are plenty of very calm lakes where this phenomena is also readily observed.
I'm not saying that they would necessarily affect the results, just that they obviously could affect the results, which is precisely why the experiment was performed on a canal.Also, the ocean can be very calm for long periods of time.
If you were actually serious, you would rent a boat this weekend and test the concept, but of course you wouldn't want to let mere facts influence your theories.
If I were actually serious, I'd perform the actual experiment on a canal as it was intended to be performed. The whole point of doing it on a canal is to remove the kind of unknowns and variables that your suggestions introduce.
While GPS is nice, not that many passage making sailors are content to rely solely on an electrical black box. It can fail, or it can be shut off. Mariners still occasionally use taffrail logs, particularly on sailboats. In the near past most all boats trailed them. They measured distance by the amount of water passed over. No time calculations or fuel consumption involved, just distance. Curiously the distances conform to RE, not the gross distortion evident in every FE map presented. We also use sextants. These measure the angles of celestial bodies and corresponding terrestrial points. This is problematic for FE lattitude calculations, as in they can't be done on a flat earth map because there is no place where a terrestrial South Pole can be situated to correspond with the celestial one. This means lattitude can't be sighted with a sextant in the Southern Hemisphere, and yet somehow this is easily done by any decent navigator. It's a real problem for FE.
No, no - not a problem at all. Actually physically measuring the water travelled involves a propellor or trailing log that rotates. In the southern regions, the relative revolutions decrease dramatically in direct inverse relationship to the distance from the magnetic pole - really! How am I doing Mr FE ? is that how it works
Dude, that makes no sense.
Being a Zetetic is not about just trusting your eyes, it is about trusting all your senses.
There are no FET engineers, navigators, surveyors, astronauts or pilots, where they have to depend on real information to thrive and survive.
There is a FET pilot
What does any of this have to do with the shape of the Earth?
i have sometimes speculated at the possibility that bedford could be like a flat spot on a skateboard wheel. having never done the experiment though i dont even know if it works myself. i still think there should be a flat earth gathering like a festival one summer.
Both of you are off topic. iwanttobelieve did not report your topic, RW. I think he was trying to make a joke. iwant, this is not the forum for that. It's low content and off topic. RW, if you have a problem with the lines between art and pornography, or simply can't handle either, make a thread about it Suggestions and Concerns. We know what's in Levee's threads, no need to report them.
Now, lets get this back on the topic of questioning Levee's research before I have to toss this one into CN.
Obviously you haven't actually read about the Bedford Level experiment. The entire point is that it involves a uniformally level body of water, something not provided by oceans which of course have waves, swells etc.
While GPS is nice, not that many passage making sailors are content to rely solely on an electrical black box. It can fail, or it can be shut off. Mariners still occasionally use taffrail logs, particularly on sailboats. In the near past most all boats trailed them. They measured distance by the amount of water passed over. No time calculations or fuel consumption involved, just distance. Curiously the distances conform to RE, not the gross distortion evident in every FE map presented. We also use sextants. These measure the angles of celestial bodies and corresponding terrestrial points. This is problematic for FE lattitude calculations, as in they can't be done on a flat earth map because there is no place where a terrestrial South Pole can be situated to correspond with the celestial one. This means lattitude can't be sighted with a sextant in the Southern Hemisphere, and yet somehow this is easily done by any decent navigator. It's a real problem for FE.
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When you take a national map of Australia (almost flat projected on flat) and compare it with the shape of Australia on a FE map (flat projected on flat), you see the blattant difference. They're as different as Oliver Hardy's and Stan Laurel's shadows.
And guess with which of the aforementionned Australia shapes the reality as experienced by Australians matches? Any Australians on FES who could tell us about this?
The RET maps work perfectly fine for all forms of travel in Australia. The FE map would have us wondering what is going on when travel times are incorrect by hours.
This is a list of convenient experiments undeniably proving a flat earth. Each one can be performed with very little equipment or technical knowledge. Perfect for anyone, from ditch digger John to quantum physicist Joe Biden, anyone can do them!
Table of Contents:
1 Parking Lots.
2 Bowling alleys.
3 The Stationary Marble.
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Yes, I'm aware of the Wiki's existence, thanks.
I do in fact base all of my conclusions on my experiments and the evidence I accrue thereby. The evidence that I have gathered indicates to me that the Earth is flat. That there is a Conspiracy follows from the premise that the Earth is flat (given premises which rule out the bizarre).
I have never "observed" the Bedford Level experiment, as it happened quite some time ago. I do hope to replicate it someday however. How much evidence of a round Earth have you observed? And I don't mean "observed" as you use it above...
Please refer to Willmores more Zetetic map where Anatarctica is a separate continent.
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So since you flat-earthers do not believe pictures, as "all of them are photoshopped", don't believe videos "because they're all taken with fish-eye lenses", and ignore mathematical/ logical proof, my question to you is; what evidence of a RE will you believe? I will be sure to provide evidence by whatever means you wish.
This happens because of the greater distance between the earth and the top light. This is no different than the mast of a sail boat being seen for longer periods of time than the hull.
-If I ran two sets of tracks North to South, one pair separated by 10ft and one pair separated by 100ft into the distance and peered down them from North to South; the pair set apart at 10ft will appear to merge sooner than the pair separated by 100ft. In reality, neither set merge at all. My example is a horizontal one, yours is a vertical one. Both are evidence of the same optical illusion. Not to mention your diagram is misleading. It's a side view however you are describing a straight on view in your worded example. To put a a compass on your northern lights...your hypothetical crew are viewing from the south but your diagram is viewing from the west.