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Flat Earth General / Re: FLAT EARTH PIC

« on: March 05, 2016, 03:03:10 AM »

can u show me pic ?
i cant wait to see the elephants of creation

Wait. You are actually serious about this pic??!?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Satellites Explained

« on: March 01, 2016, 10:04:05 PM »

Hey tvhead, welcome to the forum.
 Don't listen to these googleheads, they just wnt to harrass you.
I am interested in what you are saying.

they obviously have no clue , start to mention things and i know they are googling them , rather than knowing , They are spoon feed information from google

You obviously know things. Except for engineering. Now I am not gonna sit here and assume I know everything about TV streaming sattelites work but let me make some things clear.

Good written software doesn't crash ever. That's why big companies don't hire mediocre programmers.

For the other thing. I don't live in UK so I don't know about skynet but it's not hard to imagine they made their hardware compatible for 4k. It has been long overdue that 4k is going to be the new thing.

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Flat Earth General / Re: this has me concerned

« on: February 28, 2016, 02:28:25 PM »

If you read the comment 29silhouette is correct. just another dishonest flat earth video where they have to make up an argument because they have nothing.

just look at how they laugh at flat earthers!

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I don't speak spanish, but did you notice that he wasn't actually saying the names of the people that were in the subtitles?

Names are pronounced different in other languages, my first name sounds totally different in English too.

You never watch the Spanish channel do you?

No, I only watch the channel Jeremy Wade is on, he's bilingual, he sometimes speaks Spanish.

This is a parody. Guy in the background is talking about his life and stuff. Subtitles are wrong.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 28, 2016, 04:06:49 AM »

Plus, none of you really addressed this, which uses the exact same concept as your 'man on skateboard' bullshit:

"Anyhoo, we've not had one of the terrible false analogies the clown derfers use instead of science for a while.

So I'll write one myself... Dammit, I'll DO IT LIVE TOO!

So: Imagine a chicken; this is object A. The chicken lays an egg; object B.

Then, the chicken jumps off the egg it just laid & into the air.

In mid-air it lays another egg, which it again jumps off, gaining more height.

It keeps repeating this process until it it reaches shpayze, where it rendezvous, in a completely nominal manner, with teh ISS.

All chicken systems still being nominal, teh precious cargo of homosexuals in teh ISS can then have teh omelettes for tea.

And, as teh chicken has no re-entry shielding, eventually a lovely roast chicken cooked in a speshul shpayze-syenze oven that cost Boeing eleventy-billion dollars to develop.

All is smiles & victories in teh ISS.

So: A Rocket Is Like A Chicken.

You know it is & you know you wants that shpayze-omelette bad too...

Just admit it, Clowns!"

If a chicken layed an egg in the space chicken would start moving.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.

« on: February 27, 2016, 12:16:49 AM »

So you agree the ISS is just a jet?

Or are you just casually shitposting in the hope I'll write something you can reportfag?

LOL!!!

You'll reportfag me anyway...

Anyhoo; it was too far away to see if it had a 'mayd inn Oztraylya bye teh oresum rayzzr' sticker on it.

So I just went with a Gulfstream.

Seeing as both NASA & teh ESA own em...

Look - here's one:



Don't worry though, shpayze-tards; teh oresum rammer sett has proved it can't imitate teh ISS: with SUMS!

SUMS - teh Clown Derfers best defence against Inconvenient Reality!

Papa I never reported you.

I am your secret admirer.

I am just so amazed how you can function without a proper brain mechanism. I would love to run harmless biological experiments on you.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.

« on: February 26, 2016, 11:27:56 PM »

You are smart, and wasting it.

Lol wrong.

Post your silly shpayze-ecksperymunt list again then so everyone can look at it & say' Wtf?' if you so sure it's legit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3366119/You-highest-order-s-wits-Brian-Cox-hits-conspiracy-theorists-say-International-Space-Station-fake.html

The Daily Mail AND Brian Cox?

Oh wow - must be true!

Again: grow up.

Anyhoo, I'm off to look at teh ISS sum moar:



Ooh - SHINY!

Can I just ask how do you know it's gulfstream and not any other aero company??

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 26, 2016, 12:59:48 PM »

Markjo is the real zen master

Judge a man by the company he keeps, Zen Retard.

Even your insults are getting shitty. You have to up your game if you want to make up for the dad you always wish you had.

Maybe I should become a flat earther I am good at trolling.

Incorrect, stay a roundie. We don't like you or need you on the flat side..

You silly round objects dont have sides. DON'T BE A SHIIIPLE WAKE UP! LEARN REAL GEOMETRY!!!

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 26, 2016, 12:50:28 PM »

I am good at trolling.

Incorrect.

Then teach me troll master.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 26, 2016, 12:36:09 PM »

Markjo is the real zen master

Judge a man by the company he keeps, Zen Retard.

Even your insults are getting shitty. You have to up your game if you want to make up for the dad you always wish you had.

Maybe I should become a flat earther I am good at trolling.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 26, 2016, 10:15:44 AM »

Legba been slapping you silly for nearly 69 pages.

You see?

Legba has Fans.

You have Sock Puppets & Cronies.

BIG difference...

All the difference in the World, in fact.

Hoppy, legion, sceptimatic, feuk & I agree on virtually nothing...

Yet we all agree on this.

Funny how you LOVE a rag-tag band of Rebels in your sci-fi Star Wars bullshit...

But Hate & want to Destroy any you meet IRL.

Ever considered therapy?

Toodle-pip, Double-Thinking Space-Nazis!

Papa create another thread. I got bored of this one.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 26, 2016, 10:07:44 AM »

I thought this was an excellent example of how rockets work within and out of the atmosphere. Go ahead, legba, post the debate that something about the water mains discounts this experiment. It's not hard to tell the relation between the water and the expelling, burnt fuel. Thank you sokarul for finding this wonderful example.

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Again, credit for finding this vid goes to sokarul

The atmospheric pressure has already done its job before the hand has any effect. Notice how the shower tap rises - but also note how the devious person grabs the tap and lifts it at first as he turns it on. A classic con job and do you know what?...you people are sickening for going along with it.

If your argument is that his hand lifts the hose, then what happens when he slowly turns the water off and the hose slowly drops down in relation to the flow of water? At least legba put some thought into it by saying that it's the pressure of the water holding the hose up, which could have an effect on the experiment, but it is not the sole reason for the 'floating' hose. If you turned the water pressure wayy up the hose would spray out of control and wave around like crazy. It would not make the hose extend perfectly straight or to it's 'stretch limits' and become rigid like legba is implying.

Also, legba, what happened to your debate about the water mains? falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus, me thinks

Of course it's the pressure of the water holding the hose up. What do you think causes water pressure and what do you think water pressure pushes against for this to happen.
Seriously you are so naive it's beyond silly.

This is an excellent example of why my time spent here is a waste. Thank you for making that evident sceptimatic. It really does make me sad. I won't lie. Why would people spend so much of their time twisting and turning the truth? Really, what do you gain? I can tell you what all of mankind loses through your posts: scientific progress. Though, it may not touch or effect many people, it is still regression, and it is hindering people like myself to make a positive difference in the world (I could rationalize it by saying that I am making a positive difference by cancelling out your nonsense, but you probably wouldn't understand that). If you were not here making this regression, I would not have to counter it. Therefore, I could spend my time in places where it would truly be appreciated, giving me more motivation to be the person that I want to be. I'm starting to come to the conclusion that many of you have never had a father figure in your life, and this is the only way for you to get attention from cognitive, respectable males. Let me let you in on a little secret. If you did something to gain my respect- I would treat you much better than I do now. We could even be friends, but no. You've chosen the path of destruction. It really is very sad, and I feel for you deeply. I need to put my irrational beliefs aside (that you could show a logical understanding of physics and the world around you), and think rationally. Myself and others have explained it in analogies, experiments, and "in Science" (as legba likes to call it) multiple times over almost 70 pages now, and you continue to do whatever it is that you're doing (hence my conclusion that you only want attention). So, I will note that I have done what I can and there is nothing I can do to change your ways. Go ahead, legba, tell everyone I am retreating as if someone giving up on you is a good thing.

Dude. Chill. We are role playing here. No one actually believes the earth is actually flat... Right right?? Papa is just a master troll.

I mean no one can really be that stupid.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 26, 2016, 07:50:26 AM »

Doublethink (noun): The acceptance of contrary opinions or beliefs at the same time, especially as a result of political indoctrination.

Papa since you lost this argument why don't you create a thread for another one of your ridiculous middleearth claims. You should chose something that's not physics or I will keep slapping you everytime.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 26, 2016, 07:46:57 AM »

Are you kidding? Legba been slapping you silly for nearly 69 pages.

 

Agreed.

unfortunately the illusion is more important than the facts to some.

Papa didn't give any facts! What he said is straight up wrong. He says that opposing force doesn't get created in space because lack of atmosphere. This means gas expands but rocket doesn't move. This means energy that's coming out of the reaction is destroyed. Also without any external force total momentum of the system changes.

You don't need to be a physics major to understand something very simple.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 26, 2016, 06:58:23 AM »

To be honest you guys are letting him troll you. I already closed this discussion when I asked" where the fuck does energy go if rocket fuel can't create a force pair. And how does the system gain momentum without no external forces?" Papa knows he is wrong and he is just trolling all of you right now. He has no real argument left.

I'm fairly sure everyone knows. Some particularly perverse people probably enjoy seeing how he wriggles. They're weird.

Guilty as charged, I admit I like seeing him wriggle and twist, although Markjo is the real zen master.   

Does Papa know he's wrong?  I don't think he does,  I think he's a genuinely ignorant of the physics,  he certainly never passed any undergraduate physics courses.

Are you kidding? Legba been slapping you silly for nearly 69 pages.

67/69 pages is Legba insulting others because he doesn't understand physics.

Other stuff is some formulas he found on the internet he doesn't fully understand. Rockets can work very well in vacuum.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 26, 2016, 06:31:26 AM »

You are contradicting yourself.

Come now Rama, we all know that Papa Legba's voodoo makes him immune from contradicion

To be honest you guys are letting him troll you. I already closed this discussion when I asked" where the fuck does energy go if rocket fuel can't create a force pair. And how does the system gain momentum without no external forces?" Papa knows he is wrong and he is just trolling all of you right now. He has no real argument left.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 25, 2016, 12:38:44 PM »

Oh please, as if you would understand it even if I did "repeat that in Science".

Try me.

Cos you ain't used any so far.

Example:

Here is another analogy of how rockets work

LOL!!!

Had a gutful of 'analogies', loser.

All bullshit.

Here's more of your bullshit:

You FE'ers

Legion & me ain't flat earthers.

And we're who you're arguing with, Stevie Wonder.

We've told you enough times too.

But, like with Free Expansion, when it comes to Facts, Logic, Science & Experiments you just stick your fingers in your ears.

Now GTFO.

Papa you haven't answered my question. If rocket and gas are one object. And if the gas moves but doest create an opposing force. System gains momentum without an external force. Please explain how does this work? Cotradict yourself much

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Flat Earth General / Re: SpaceX predicting a crash-landing on drone ship today

« on: February 25, 2016, 11:52:51 AM »

Arianespace has sent up satellites in orbits since 35+ years and does not make much noise about it. But it has not sent any humans into space. Reason is they cannot return. Of course Arianespace has sent food and stores up to the ISS ... but it is just for show. There are no humans at the ISS. I explain all at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm .

This SpaceX rubbish is ... rubbish.

Ugh. Yeah that's why there was a livestream in iss where astraunots answered live questions. It's very believable.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 25, 2016, 11:49:12 AM »

Rocket with fuel, and spent fuel = TWO objects! 1, and 2! Can you count? or do you still think that is one object?

Sorry, but can you repeat that in Science please?

Because I have no idea what you are trying to imply.

Question is simple papa. Do we agree that an exothermic reaction happens in rocket and gas expands. OK then. Do we agree that this creates energy. Now gas expands we are set right? You say there is no opposing force so rocket wouldn't move. And I ask you papa where does the excess energy go. How did the momentum of the system change with no external force?? How did that happen?? How did the whole system gain momentum without an external force?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 25, 2016, 06:41:26 AM »

What are the effects of a vacuum then?
I would like a detailed report with some scientific basis and peer reviewed citations please.

On a gas?

Already given; Free Expansion, remember?

You stuck your fingers in your ears then & you'll do it now, so I won't waste my time again.

As for this nonsense:

What do you think a rocket in a vacuum is?

A rocket is a system of various interacting parts within a vacuum environment.

And what do you think it's doing?

The expanding combustion gasses are traveling and interacting with the De Laval nozzle.

Yup; back to a rocket 'pushing on itself' (lol!).

It always comes back to that same Impossible concept, don't it?

When you can place your hand under your chin & push yourself into space I'll believe you...

So that'll be Never, then.

HERE IS THE STRAWMAN TO END ALL STRAWMEN! BOW TO MY STRAWMAN!!! BOW MORTALS!!!

^Desperate.

Vacuums aren't forces.

Pressure gradient forces are forces though...

There's a clue in the name, retard.

Toodle-pip, Anti-Science Losers!

Papa since you mastered physics. Do you.mind explainh where the energy goes. Because you know since rocket fuel can't create an equal opposing force kinetic energy of the system changes without an external force (according to you). So where does this energy go does it get destroyed?

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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS ONLINE Cameras

« on: February 24, 2016, 09:57:36 PM »

Lets see Papa debunk this.

Debunk what?

I just get a blank screen; nothing to debunk there.

I always get a blank screen from the bullshit ISS live feeds.

Because they're just another shoddy NASA con that needs retards like you to prop it up.

Now go ahead & do your job propping up shoddy bullshit for con-men...

Make your mothers proud!

Papa if you tell me which church's basement you are in I will get you fiber net so you can enjoy the iss as much as others do. I will pay your first 12 months don't worry.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 24, 2016, 03:10:10 PM »

How does the air in the room create a force pair with the balloon?

How do your shoes (assuming you wear them) create a force pair with the ground?

We got it. Question is why is rocket fuel any different? Why can't it create force pair. What property of this matter makes it differ?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 24, 2016, 02:50:48 PM »

Substitute exothermal chemical reaction for pressurized air and exhaust plume and rocket body for water and bottle and you got it!

By that logic, the "water" bottle rocket, could just be an "air" bottle rocket. If you find such an example, you will have powerful evidence to support your case.

Let me be clear:

If you find instructions, or a video, using a normal plastic bottle, compressed air, but does not use a liquid, you will have something that I couldn't ignore.

Do you mean something like a regular party balloon?
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The compressed air in the balloon creates a force pair with the air in the room. The air in the room moves the balloon. Much like you walking creates a force pair between your shoes and the ground.

Basic physics.

So how does a water rocket work?

Compression force.

You got this completely wrong. Main argument is that you need a 3rd "object" to push against / create opposing force.

Problem is this is explained by physics. For some reason you guys think rocket fuel can't create opposing force by itself. Which completely defies newton physics and you cannot explain where the excess energy goes.

No. A force needs to be applied outside of the system, or leave the system, if you prefer.

Take the water bottle rocket. Until the water is pushed out (by the compressed air), the forces are balanced and thus no movement of the bottle. While the system is closed, the system is balanced.

You don't need a "third object". You need to open the system, that is all.

You don't need an open system. Which rocket is an open system btw. A force will have opposing reaction no matter what. In this case rocket fuel expands through the nozzle whicheck creates work. Now fuel and rocket body make an elastic Collison where the final kinetic energy is equal to the primal kinetic energy.

In another terms gas expansion creates a force and the opposing equal force pushes the rocket.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 24, 2016, 02:31:44 PM »

Substitute exothermal chemical reaction for pressurized air and exhaust plume and rocket body for water and bottle and you got it!

By that logic, the "water" bottle rocket, could just be an "air" bottle rocket. If you find such an example, you will have powerful evidence to support your case.

Let me be clear:

If you find instructions, or a video, using a normal plastic bottle, compressed air, but does not use a liquid, you will have something that I couldn't ignore.

Do you mean something like a regular party balloon?
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The compressed air in the balloon creates a force pair with the air in the room. The air in the room moves the balloon. Much like you walking creates a force pair between your shoes and the ground.

Basic physics.

So how does a water rocket work?

Compression force.

You got this completely wrong. Main argument is that you need a 3rd "object" to push against / create opposing force.

Problem is this is explained by physics. For some reason you guys think rocket fuel can't create opposing force by itself. Which completely defies newton physics and you cannot explain where the excess energy goes.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 24, 2016, 02:06:24 PM »

I don't believe that Papa Legba knows any genuine science or experiments to present.

Lying again.

I have provided a simple experiment to prove that an exhausted gas creates a force-pairing with another gas.

It's as simple as blowing on a lit match.

You have not provided one single experiment to prove a moving rocket is creating a force-pairing with itself.

Because you can't; there are none.

Toodle-pip, Liars!

Ok so you think. When a rocket is in the atmosphere fuel that is expanding from the nozzle pushes the air which then creates an opposing force which pushes the rocket ? And you say this wouldn't work in the space since no air.

Now may I ask what makes rocket fuel so different that any other matter in the universe creates an opposing equal force to every force but rocket Fuel doesn't ?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 24, 2016, 01:59:02 PM »

I see you've all given up on presenting any genuine science or experiments !

Now that is the most ridiculous statement I have ever seen!
I may have missed a morsel somewhere. If so maybe some kind person out there find it!

But I don't believe that Papa Legba knows any genuine science or experiments to present.

If you claim you are able to float in the air, can I disprove your claim, by experiments using other people?

No.

I can only prove that no one else can float in the air. As we have done for sixty pages now.

There has been no evidence to support rockets working in a vacuum. Neither rational or experimental.

Except for you know physic rules. 3 videos that showcased rockets working In a vacuum. So yeah you are right there has been nothing that proves you right so everybody else is a Liar and whole book of physics is a Liar.

Like dude grab aNY physics book ever. Go to your community college and get educated Pls.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 24, 2016, 06:33:34 AM »

NO U!!!

Meh.

However, as usual, you did slip up with this:

A system is a set of interacting or interdependent component parts forming a complex/intricate whole.

Because it fully supports the fact that a rocket is ONE object creating ONE force via F=pa.

Thus, until it creates a FORCE-PAIRING with a SECOND object, EXTRINSIC to itself, it cannot fulfil the dictates of Newton 3 & produce motion.

And the only possibility for that SECOND, EXTRINSIC object is the atmosphere through which it rather conveniently moves.

Ergo: NO atmosphere, NO motion; a rocket cannot work in a vacuum.

Simple stuff.

Shame you're paid to not see it.

No-one else is though; which is why they will.

Toodle-pip, Farmyard Friends!

Total momentum of the system rocket + gas stays the same. You add the vector together and total momentum is still 0. Rocket moves one way and gas the other. Both the force and opposing force are there. There is nothing wrong.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Gleason's map has a patent on it?

« on: February 22, 2016, 10:00:23 PM »

Why on flat earth is a flat earth map more accurate than a round map? It's being used for computers, is this what NASA uses to zoom in with on google earth maps?

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PDF
http://www.google.com/patents/US3858334

It doesn't show and pieces accurately. And no this isn't what Google Earth use.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 22, 2016, 09:35:28 AM »

if I push myself against thin air, nothing happens. if I push myself against a wall, I fall over. rockets can't work in space.

Ok,  describe what happens when a bomb explodes in the vacuum of space?   Do the pieces stay still,  or do they fly apart?

it makes a loud bang KAPOOOOW!!

Damn. I feel important now . I got haters

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 22, 2016, 07:04:55 AM »

You. Know. Nothing. About. Physics.

Have you ever asked a physics teacher if rockets can work in a vacuum?

I am pretty sure he lives in the basement of a church. So probably no

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Flat Earth General / Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

« on: February 22, 2016, 06:33:36 AM »

Stop. Posting. Bullshit. On. My. Thread.

You. Know. Nothing. About. Physics.

Go. Pester. Someone. Else.

Toodle. Pip. Retard.

That's a bit rich coming from you...