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Other Discussion Boards => Philosophy, Religion & Society => Topic started by: Rayzor on January 03, 2023, 06:39:29 PM
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Nope, this is not a poll, I'm curious as to who will become the speaker.
Given, that it can be anybody, not necessarily a member of congress, who would you choose?
I'm thinking someone like Mike Lindell would be good entertainment value, or perhaps Hershel Walker?
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Make it Trump so they can assassinate Biden and Kamala, and ensure he's president.
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I'm quickly running out of popcorn on this one but I've got to say I'm a bit worried. What happens when a vote that's actually important comes up? These lunatics grew up thinking that professional wrestling is real.
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If something actually important comes up, they will do what they always do, nothing.
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I'm talking about the votes that keeps the country running like disaster relief or the federal budget. In the past congress has always made a big show of arguing over it but it was all kayfabe. But these lunatics might actually obstruct the important stuff just because they think that's what governing is.
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What's all this business about how the psychopath Boebert and Co want Jim Jordan? I guess because he's all Freedom Caucus-eriffic? He keeps getting like 19 votes and yah need 218. Seems like this will drag on for years at this rate. And in the mean time, like you said, actual real stuff that usually and needs to get done won't get done.
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The weird thing is that Jim Jordan isn't interested in being the speaker. He's been voting for McCarthy. They're turning this into a farce.
It's difficult to see the democrats pulling a few Republicans to get their guy elected since it's such a powerful position. Maybe we'll see McCarthy cutting a deal with the democrats to get a few votes there. But that would be humiliating as well.
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I read that too. That Jordan has been voting for McCarthy and has been trying to get the nutjobs in his caucus to vote for him, but they won't budge. And yeah, embarrassing for sure...
And so, at 5:27 p.m., after three ballots that saw Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries of New York win more votes for speaker than the nominal GOP leader, Kevin McCarthy of California, the House adjourned until noon Wednesday.
Not that it would happen, but is it conceivable that the minority party leader could be voted in as Speaker? I'm assuming yes.
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Oh. The fourth vote is on now. Gotta get some popcorn...
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I read that too. That Jordan has been voting for McCarthy and has been trying to get the nutjobs in his caucus to vote for him, but they won't budge. And yeah, embarrassing for sure...
And so, at 5:27 p.m., after three ballots that saw Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries of New York win more votes for speaker than the nominal GOP leader, Kevin McCarthy of California, the House adjourned until noon Wednesday.
Not that it would happen, but is it conceivable that the minority party leader could be voted in as Speaker? I'm assuming yes.
What would be the point of democrats voting for one of their own as speaker in a repugnican controlled house?
Like, wouldn't they be better to scheme with a repug that's more favourable (or in the current context, professional) to get them over the line?
They could also win support from the public as a stark contrast to the repugs as they claim that the election was free, fair and the repugs won it. And because the repugs couldn't get their house in order (pun very much intended), they assisted them for the good of the nation
Who cares about doing backroom 'deals'. Try to win public support and sentiment and that will be a more powerful weapon and something history will remember
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Yeah, I can't really think of a good reason as to why that would be beneficial. Other than rubbing the GOP's noses in it with, "Ha, you all are so dysfunctional you ended up with a minority Speaker...Idiots, all of you."
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I read that too. That Jordan has been voting for McCarthy and has been trying to get the nutjobs in his caucus to vote for him, but they won't budge. And yeah, embarrassing for sure...
And so, at 5:27 p.m., after three ballots that saw Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries of New York win more votes for speaker than the nominal GOP leader, Kevin McCarthy of California, the House adjourned until noon Wednesday.
Not that it would happen, but is it conceivable that the minority party leader could be voted in as Speaker? I'm assuming yes.
What would be the point of democrats voting for one of their own as speaker in a repugnican controlled house?
Like, wouldn't they be better to scheme with a repug that's more favourable (or in the current context, professional) to get them over the line?
They could also win support from the public as a stark contrast to the repugs as they claim that the election was free, fair and the repugs won it. And because the repugs couldn't get their house in order (pun very much intended), they assisted them for the good of the nation
Who cares about doing backroom 'deals'. Try to win public support and sentiment and that will be a more powerful weapon and something history will remember
Good deeds are forgotten. But smears last forever.
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Now we get a round 5!
I would think a deal should be possible. I guess the house is just too polarized. Maybe give it a dozen more rounds of votes and see what happens.
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Unbelievable...
(https://i.imgur.com/S89sBqq.png)
Maybe it will just keep going like this until the 2026 Mid-terms.
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Imagine how McCarthy must feel to lose votes every round.
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Starting round 5. Every round they have to treat it like it's the first round with nominations and speeches. It's a little weird to see basically the same speech over and over again while everyone claps like it's the first time they've heard it. This must be what it's like to rehearse for a play.
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Starting round 5. Every round they have to treat it like it's the first round with nominations and speeches. It's a little weird to see basically the same speech over and over again while everyone claps like it's the first time they've heard it. This must be what it's like to rehearse for a play.
Or Hell.
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Alright. Round 6...
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How long will this keep going?
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At most 2 years I think. By that time there should be an entirely new House.
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At most 2 years I think. By that time there should be an entirely new House.
I'm not old enough to get involved with politics or vote BUT I will want to see which one gets to win.
Hopefully, it's someone who isn't an annoying fagguete like Donald trump.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/house-republicans-frantically-binge-old-schoolhouse-rock-episodes-to-figure-out-what-theyre-supposed-to-be-doing
WASHINGTON, D.C. — House Republicans have requested a congressional recess following another failed round of voting for the next Speaker of the House so they can frantically binge-watch old episodes of Schoolhouse Rock and figure out what they're supposed to be doing.
McCarthy reportedly told aides, "There's got to be something in these ancient songs. Hold all my calls! I refuse to talk to any constituents until I am Speaker!"
Republicans first reviewed the classic song "Three-Ring Government" but found it unsettling. They learned a lot but all comparisons to a three-ring circus felt strangely offensive. "We are not a bunch of clowns! You're the clowns!" Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene yelled at the screen. She was supported by Rep. Matt Gaetz, who resented the very idea that he was anything but practically perfect in every way.
According to sources, Republicans quickly grew bored of their intense study of government policy and ordered their aides to review the educational tapes instead. A 4,000-page report on the lessons learned from the catchy tunes and whimsical animation was prepared and half-heartedly skimmed by a majority of the congressional representatives who had requested the information in the first place.
At publishing time, Rep. Kevin McCarthy is still reviewing footage of Schoolhouse Rock, searching for any means whatsoever to gain power. "All I care about is power," he said, eyes lit by the haunting glow of a dim television in a dark room full of empty chairs.
lol
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Round 7...
I think the record is 9 rounds so only two more.
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Round 7...
I think the record is 9 rounds so only two more.
Isn't the record 133?
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Seems like a deadlock.
I get the impression that the HFC have overplayed their hand, and opened the door for the Democratics to nominate a moderate Republican, maybe Kasich? or someone like that.
I doubt McCarthy can come back.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/house-republicans-frantically-binge-old-schoolhouse-rock-episodes-to-figure-out-what-theyre-supposed-to-be-doing
"All I care about is power," he said, eyes lit by the haunting glow of a dim television in a dark room full of empty chairs.
lol
That's fantastic.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vHwmDjbQ/1648799161889.jpg)
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I love how Tucker can just ruin any Republicans career on a whim. They look at him with such fear in their eye
s.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PxvjjBrs/Screenshot-20230105-135612.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Dj2z-eRPx8o
"You'll tear down."
Yes.
See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.
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Round 7 has failed to elect a speaker.
Matt Gaetz voted for Donald Trump.
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I think they should vote for Kabool, on account of the fact I would find it funny.
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I think they should vote for Kabool, on account of the fact I would find it funny.
Really? Not Tucker Carlson? Imagine how even more degenerate politics could get lol
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Round 7 has failed to elect a speaker.
Matt Gaetz voted for Donald Trump.
LOL.
They should elect someone who isn't a member of Congress to the speaker position.
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No change for round 8.
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Round 7...
I think the record is 9 rounds so only two more.
Isn't the record 133?
I stand corrected. 9 is the record for post civil war America which McCarthy is about to break.
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Round 7 has failed to elect a speaker.
Matt Gaetz voted for Donald Trump.
LOL.
They should elect someone who isn't a member of Congress to the speaker position.
Jeffries only needs 6 more votes to win. Maybe he can flip some of the Republican holdouts.
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Now 10.
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I don't really understand what it going on. Is he nominating himself as speaker every time?
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Good question. I have no idea how this all works. Usually there's just a ceremonial vote, perhaps a little bit of controversy, then it's done.
Edit: I guess others do. This from yesterday:
Rep. Mike Gallagher (R., Wis.) rises shortly after noon Wednesday to nominate Kevin McCarthy for speaker, making him the fourth person to nominate him ahead of yet another vote, after three failed votes on Tuesday.
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They've been taking turns doing the nominations, usually with a very long speech that seems to keep getting longer.
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I am just shocked that a bunch of election deniers seem to have no respect for democratic norms.
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Ladies and Gentlemen please rise and welcome your new speaker...
Matt Gaetz voted for Trump as speaker, and this picture was reposted by Trump over on TruthSocial.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlusyD1WYBgrYse?format=jpg&name=small)
Pretty funny.
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I predict the system will just collapse. They'll refuse to vote, and since everyone is needed to vote, the House will basically be unable to function.
Eventually it might resolve itself, but I think they're basically holding the system ransom.
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Matt Gaetz voted for Trump as speaker
I thought you were joking. He actually did! What a tool.
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I predict the system will just collapse. They'll refuse to vote, and since everyone is needed to vote, the House will basically be unable to function.
Eventually it might resolve itself, but I think they're basically holding the system ransom.
Your prediction is incorrect. What will happen will be the way all of politics happens: Deals will be made, concessions begrudgingly granted. Especially as this turns more and more into an embarrassment for the GOP. Someone will cave and we'll wake up with a new speaker and all will clunk along as it normally does.
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I am just shocked that a bunch of election deniers seem to have no respect for democratic norms.
We have a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. Specifically a constitutional republic.
If we had a democracy, votes would be counted regardless of region (meaning California would be able to outvote the will of Oklahoma, vetoing their laws). The founders rightly understood that this is a disgusting situation, akin to a lynch mob, and called this "the tyranny of the majority. We don't do things this way, and we shouldn't either.
When Biden says stuff like "democracy will be threatened if Arizona votes to the right" what he actually means is Democracy, as in the state of being Democratic. Which itself is a lie, because Democrats haven't been democratic for the last 25 years at least. They increasingly veered left towards statism.
The last few elections HAVE BEEN fake. Using a fake plague to promote mail voting, which is easy to fraud. We don't see a single person come in, xeroxed forms can be used, late night deliveries can be dumped at a voting precinct, and because there is no oversight when you don't have one person, one license, one vote, instead you can have endless copies.
It's a cheat. Democrats cheat because they can't win in rural districts. Rural people hate what they represent, and it isn't a true election. Better to shut the House down entirely.
Your prediction is incorrect. What will happen will be the way all of politics happens: Deals will be made, concessions begrudgingly granted. Especially as this turns more and more into an embarrassment for the GOP. Someone will cave and we'll wake up with a new speaker and all will clunk along as it normally does.
You're assuming they want something. People can be bribed only if they feel their demands are legit likely to be met.
I studied Russian History.
Okay, you know what usually happens in a worker strike. People whine and complain. The union leader negotiates with the own or manager, and you get a (theoretical, actually the union takes their dues and you might actually be no better off) raise and shorter hours or something. As you might be able to tell, I think unions are bullshit.
Well, in Russian History, they had no demands. They weren't going to work. The society basically collapsed as people were on strike until the big companies imploded. This in turn caused the upheaval that eventually led to the communist revolution.
When you cheat on our elections, expect to have people simply refuse to give you the House at all. Have fun drafting laws yourself Biden. I suppose he can just pass executive order after executive order by fiat. But that reveals his hand as the tyrant he is.
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I am just shocked that a bunch of election deniers seem to have no respect for democratic norms.
We have a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. Specifically a constitutional republic.
If we had a democracy, votes would be counted regardless of region (meaning California would be able to outvote the will of Oklahoma, vetoing their laws). The founders rightly understood that this is a disgusting situation, akin to a lynch mob, and called this "the tyranny of the majority. We don't do things this way, and we shouldn't either.
When Biden says stuff like "democracy will be threatened if Arizona votes to the right" what he actually means is Democracy, as in the state of being Democratic. Which itself is a lie, because Democrats haven't been democratic for the last 25 years at least. They increasingly veered left towards statism.
The last few elections HAVE BEEN fake. Using a fake plague to promote mail voting, which is easy to fraud. We don't see a single person come in, xeroxed forms can be used, late night deliveries can be dumped at a voting precinct, and because there is no oversight when you don't have one person, one license, one vote, instead you can have endless copies.
It's a cheat. Democrats cheat because they can't win in rural districts. Rural people hate what they represent, and it isn't a true election. Better to shut the House down entirely.
Your prediction is incorrect. What will happen will be the way all of politics happens: Deals will be made, concessions begrudgingly granted. Especially as this turns more and more into an embarrassment for the GOP. Someone will cave and we'll wake up with a new speaker and all will clunk along as it normally does.
You're assuming they want something. People can be bribed only if they feel their demands are legit likely to be met.
I studied Russian History.
Okay, you know what usually happens in a worker strike. People whine and complain. The union leader negotiates with the own or manager, and you get a (theoretical, actually the union takes their dues and you might actually be no better off) raise and shorter hours or something. As you might be able to tell, I think unions are bullshit.
Well, in Russian History, they had no demands. They weren't going to work. The society basically collapsed as people were on strike until the big companies imploded.
When you cheat on our elections, expect to have people simply refuse to give you the House at all. Have fun drafting laws yourself Biden.
What about the unique barcodes at the top?
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I am just shocked that a bunch of election deniers seem to have no respect for democratic norms.
We have a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. Specifically a constitutional republic...
I have no idea what this whole ramble was about. But maybe this will help if I rephrase Crout's statement:
I am just shocked that a bunch of election deniers seem to have no respect for constitutional republic norms.
The last few elections HAVE BEEN fake.
If you say so. But you're just saying so. The only problem is after years of court cases (over 60 of them) claiming evidence of widespread voter fraud zero was found. Zero. Since we are and evidence-based constitutional republic zero evidence means zero evidence.
If you have some evidence you would like to present that hasn't already been refuted with facts, then go ahead, lay it on us. Remember, evidence is required, not speculation.
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JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!
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He got more than Jeffries!
He got 214 votes! He's inching closer!
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We have a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. Specifically a constitutional republic.
Which is a type of democracy. Now go back to your corner and face the wall.
https://act.represent.us/sign/democracy-republic
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The burning question is how much of the speakers powers did McCarthy give away to get the extra votes and does he now have enough?
Question 2, On the off chance he wins with such a compromise, is how will he ever get a rules package passed? All it will take is a few moderate Republicans to side with the Dems and down goes the rules package?
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We have a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. Specifically a constitutional republic.
Which is a type of democracy. Now go back to your corner and face the wall.
https://act.represent.us/sign/democracy-republic
Buuùrrrrrn
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From what I just read, the details are scant, but the framework of concessions is 3 pronged:
1) Something about how the bills are introduced. Some sort of GOP powered decider that gives them some kind of greater than normal control for the hardliners to stop stuff from getting to the floor - Mixed in with some sort of really complicated machinations around how the fed budget gets approved.
2) An easier mechanism for the GOP to call for the the speaker to be removed. Yet it would still require a 218 vote to do so, so it seems ornamental rather than anything with real teeth.
3) Committee appointments handed out to the hardliners. Meaning MTG may actually get a committee after all.
All that and I think he still needs 3-4 more votes.
More concessions and backroom deals ahead.
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Speaker makes rules?
I thought the rules were set
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It has something to due with the "rules committee" whereby they have the power to determine how bill proposals are vetted to being worthy of making it to the floor. I've never even heard of that committee but apparently, it's pretty fluid and quite powerful.
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Vicious
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The vote appears to be deadlocked. I'm not sure if the vote is over or not. But this is glorious!
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The vote appears to be deadlocked. I'm not sure if the vote is over or not. But this is glorious!
Maybe the dems should have backed this Kevin bloke before he was forced to appease and capitulate to the hard core MAGA morons
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I don't know if that would have been possible. If he was seen catering to votes from democrats I think that would look extremely bad for him.
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Vicious
I'm not a fan of him. He's very bias and uses extreme language. He's basically a calm Fox News.
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I do not like either. Your assessment is correct.
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I think McCarthy just won himself a poison chalice.
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I think McCarthy just won himself a poison chalice.
I think you're right. It will be interesting to see exactly what he conceded. It seems like kinda a lot.
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According to the news
On the 14th round of voting, Representative Matt Gaetz withheld his vote, prompting a scuffle in which fellow Republican Mike Rogers had to be physically pulled away
What kind of shit clown show is this?!?
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McCarthy telling Gaetze to vote 'Yes' and not 'Present'. What a shitshow is right.
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Time stamp 1:28
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Meanwhile Dems are just like...
"Here's more rope, good sirs."
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Did some Rep want to punch Gaetz? If so, I wish they would spare the gavel and let them MMA it out.
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They say one rep lunged at him. The video shows another rep holding him back.
The restraining was much more forceful than any actual lunge so maybe the incident involved threatening language.
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Looks like Matt Gaetz and his group won to me.
(https://i.imgur.com/GuYYdwj.png)
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Looks like Matt Gaetz and his group won to me.
(https://i.imgur.com/GuYYdwj.png)
IF McCarthy gets the speakership, right? He hasn't gotten it yet, has he?
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The inmates will be running the asylum lol
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He won the last vote.
But yeah, way to trigger the libs I guess.
Now we shall pursue the most important priority for the American people, hunter bidens dick.
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He won the last vote.
Looks like the 15th time was the charm.
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The Democrats hold the record for losses in this, FYI. The Republican candidate lost 14 times in a row. But the Democrat candidate lost 15 times in a row. The Democrats were trying to get bi-partisan support on Jefferies as speaker and repeatedly failed.
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Democrats are not the party with the majority, therefore they weren't expected to win. However, I find it rather entertaining (and rather telling) how many times Jefferies was closer to winning than McCarthy, even after McCarthy made so many significant concessions.
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Yes, he was close to winning, and actively invited bi-partisan votes. He still lost 15 times in a row though. He could have compromised with Republican agenda and could have potentially won. He didn't.
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Democrats are not the party with the majority, therefore they weren't expected to win. However, I find it rather entertaining (and rather telling) how many times Jefferies was closer to winning than McCarthy, even after McCarthy made so many significant concessions.
I think the repugnicans are the ones with the egg on their face after this. The fracture within itself was on display for all to see
The dems though should have had realistic expectations and just surprised and backed Kevin from the start before he had to appease the demented wing of the repugs.
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Somebody got into Gaetz's face and he changed his vote... twitter is wondering what was said, because Gaetz looks worried.
https://twitter.com/dcboyisangry/status/1611764066636251139
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MAGA Conservatism won.
(https://i.ibb.co/9tYZ4pz/b-SI40w-P2-YSCv.jpg)
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MAGA Conservatism won.
(https://i.ibb.co/9tYZ4pz/b-SI40w-P2-YSCv.jpg)
I like how you post the meme to illuatrate her point. Yes, MAGA are pirates willing to take what they want by force and kill anyone who stands in their way.
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Selfawareness not their strong features
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Well yeah. The extremist Christians and Muslims have a lot of things in common. One thing is they're both basically a death cult.
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You brought the tiger!
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OMG! That is is just too good.
And I believe that is exactly verbatim of what was actually said.
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BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
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I think McCarthy just won himself a poison chalice.
I think you're right. It will be interesting to see exactly what he conceded. It seems like kinda a lot.
Less gibs for Ukraine, apparently.
That's pretty sweet.
Good play Matt.
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Well yeah. The extremist Christians and Muslims have a lot of things in common. One thing is they're both basically a death cult.
Oho.
Another one.
No extremist jews to speak of.
Clearly.
I wonder which Abrahamic religion is Croutons favourite?
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The one true religion obviously. Mormonism.
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Vicious
I'm not a fan of him. He's very bias and uses extreme language. He's basically a calm Fox News.
I do not like either. Your assessment is correct.
very sassy while calm
like the CNN guy acosta guy
also sassy
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The one true religion obviously. Mormonism.
What about the extremist Christian sect of Mormons?
There are no extremist Jews, are there?
Metzitzah b'peh
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Mormonism is growing particularly fast because we posthumously baptize the dead and in the process convert them to Mormons.
Therefore there are many Mormons throughout history that you may not know about such as King Henry VIII, the prophet Muhammed and the 6 million Mormons that died in the Holocaust perpetrated by Adolph Hitler, who was also a Mormon.
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Sure so extremist jews don't exist. Just other religions have extremists.
Metzitzah b'peh
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It may be from a lack of exposure due to there not being a large Jewish population in the southern US, but it doesn't seem like the extremist end of the Jewish faith applies their religion onto others, like Christianity and Islam, but rather onto themselves. Forgive my ignorance if this is not the case.
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Mormonism is growing particularly fast because we posthumously baptize the dead and in the process convert them to Mormons.
Therefore there are many Mormons throughout history that you may not know about such as King Henry VIII, the prophet Muhammed and the 6 million Mormons that died in the Holocaust perpetrated by Adolph Hitler, who was also a Mormon.
Thats absolutely ridiculous
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Mormonism is growing particularly fast because we posthumously baptize the dead and in the process convert them to Mormons.
Therefore there are many Mormons throughout history that you may not know about such as King Henry VIII, the prophet Muhammed and the 6 million Mormons that died in the Holocaust perpetrated by Adolph Hitler, who was also a Mormon.
Thats absolutely ridiculous
I agree!
Three words in a row that make a legible sentence?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1612952518144704512
Apparently their first act is to abolish the IRS.
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Repugs are a wrecking ball to America lol
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The IRS shouldn't be an army.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1612952518144704512
Apparently their first act is to abolish the IRS.
and the ethics dept
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https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1612952518144704512
Apparently their first act is to abolish the IRS.
and the ethics dept
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The IRS shouldn't be an army.
Should they have the budget to tax the super rich?
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Do you need guns to tax the super rich?
You're better than this.
What happened to you?
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Do you need guns to tax the super rich?
You're better than this.
What happened to you?
You're suddenly against guns?
FWIW I'm pretty sure giving IRS agents tanks is a fox news delusion.
Let me lay this out for you. IRS agents don't waste their time with people like you and me. We have this thing called stable wages and witholding.
The government already has our money at the end of the year.
Unless you're super rich and do not have withholding and can pay taxes in extremely creative ways.
That's what this funding for the IRS is for.
But by all means. Keep parroting the talking points of the super rich. I'm sure they're grateful that you're helping them to defend their billions.
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Again you're much better than this.
They just print money anyway what do they need to tax people for?
If they are greedy then they already have their reward.
https://www.inc-aus.com/jeff-haden/108-years-ago-ford-doubled-employee-wages-overnight-business-case-for-higher-pay.html
Henry Ford did this because he was a good man that is to say a Christian.
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Did you know the Dodge brothers sued Henry Ford because they were so disgusted that he passed on his increased profits to his employees rather than just his shareholders?
It's true, that really happened.
https://fordauthority.com/2018/11/once-upon-a-time-the-dodge-brothers-successfully-sued-henry-ford/
The more you know.
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQkFMg67/Dodge-Logo-1914-1928.png)
Personally I like Toyota's, and Honda's but Henry Ford really was a good man. I don't think we should force people to be good men and neither does God.
Edit.
Typo.
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"stupidier for listening" happy gilmore and my comment about ethics dept?
sure buddy
give that video to me... meanwhile you repost IRS and guns.
wowwee
dispo really needs to stop watching fox news
rotting the brain
irs and guns?
the same reason why guns are needed for welfare checks and traffic stops - because people are unstable and USA has a lot of bad gun laws.
hey remember when fauci DIDN"T say he was going to send people door-to-door to give out vaccines and teh response was "i have a gun".
87,000 agents being hired
is taht 87agents with guns?
can we get you to get a confirmation on that?
i have one, would liek tosee one from the fox news meme dept.
ask another stupid question like why ATF is ATF and why ATF carry guns?
skipto 5:34
should all IRS agents be like him?
also also
back to the happy gilmore?
https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-blasted-after-voting-gut-house-ethics-office-1772486
oh ok.
"the party of drain the swamp."
so trump era oil-gas exec in charge of EPA and shipping exec in charge of Post office and private school manager in charge of Schools gutting public school.
oh so gutting dept has NOOOOTHING to do with happy gilmoring me.
gotcha
thanks for coming out and being a POS fox news shill.
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Speak English.
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Speak English.
He speaks in captcha. You failed.
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Yes Shifter.
I am clearly a DARPA neural network AI used by five eyes for propaganda and narrative control.
Surely, you are a real human being.
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darpa?
more lioke duuurpa
aaaahahahahah
high five
high five
prentencious laughprentencious laugh
prentencious laugh
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Crouton does it concern you that your propaganda is most effective on people below 85iq?
It probably should.
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https://www.propublica.org/article/irs-sorry-but-its-just-easier-and-cheaper-to-audit-the-poor
The IRS does go after the working class.
What increasing the funding of the IRS is supposed to do is allow them to audit the rich. Whether or not they would do that, idk. It all sounds good, but the wealthy are the ones with the power, and I can't see them allowing themselves to be treated like the rest of us.
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The IRS audits anyone they think is not paying taxes or not filing.
But they want the money and I suspect they're always willing to work with the poor to get things sorted out in a way that isn't "pay us $10,000 now or go to jail!".
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https://www.propublica.org/article/irs-sorry-but-its-just-easier-and-cheaper-to-audit-the-poor
The IRS does go after the working class.
What increasing the funding of the IRS is supposed to do is allow them to audit the rich. Whether or not they would do that, idk. It all sounds good, but the wealthy are the ones with the power, and I can't see them allowing themselves to be treated like the rest of us.
The article, written in 2019, appears to support my point.
Around 2010 the republicans slashed the IRS budget. Auditing the rich is an expensive process because their taxes are extremely complicated. The IRS no longer had the budget to do it. The article implies that due to a lack of funding that the IRS just started ganging up on the poor but these people get audited also regardless of how often the rich get audited. You don't have to be rich to commit tax fraud.
This funding increase to the IRS is actually pretty recent, around August of last year. So it's too early to tell if it's doing what it's supposed to do. But the IRS commissioner committed to not increasing audits for anyone making less than 400k.
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I hope they stick to that promise! People on the left have been asking for the IRS to go after the wealthy forever, but something always (usually Republicans, I suppose) gets in the way.