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Title: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Denspressure on September 01, 2017, 11:55:33 AM


HURRICANE HARVEY LOOKS LIKE AN ENGINEERED STORM. It should have dissipated but remained for days.

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEYENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 01, 2017, 12:29:52 PM
And how do you know what an "engineered storm" looks like? Something that chaos theory tells us would be virtually impossible to produce to order?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEYENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Denspressure on September 01, 2017, 12:31:01 PM
Sure, wave away all the coincidences  ;D
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEYENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 01, 2017, 12:35:12 PM
Sure, wave away all the coincidences  ;D

How about you actually answer my question?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEYENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: FalseProphet on September 01, 2017, 02:33:19 PM
Yippie, a hurricane Haryey conspiracy theory.

Is it the government? The globalists? China? The Jews.

One thing we know for sure: It has nothing to do with climate change.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEYENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Lonegranger on September 01, 2017, 02:48:44 PM


HURRICANE HARVEY LOOKS LIKE AN ENGINEERED STORM. It should have dissipated but remained for days.



You have now proved beyond any reasonable doubt based on this post that you have lost touch with reality.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEYENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 01, 2017, 02:59:53 PM
Damn "THEM" !
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 01, 2017, 03:23:33 PM
It's so funny...all these so called "smart" people like dino Neil and lonegranger can't even figure out with their infinite wisdom that denspressure is trolling them ha ha ha...shows how dumb they really are, and as we suspected their actions are simply a nasty form of deflection.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEYENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Crouton on September 01, 2017, 03:41:09 PM
Yippie, a hurricane Haryey conspiracy theory.

Is it the government? The globalists? China? The Jews.

One thing we know for sure: It has nothing to do with climate change.

Well this one is obvious.  If it hits a red state then it's George Soros.  If it hits a blue state then it's the Koch brothers.  There's only one hurricane machine and they fight over control of it.

As far as climate change.  I actually can't seem to find a clear scientific consensus on it's effects.  There's this:



The only thing they seem to agree on is that it probably causes more rain in a tropical storm.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEYENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: FalseProphet on September 01, 2017, 03:56:16 PM


As far as climate change.  I actually can't seem to find a clear scientific consensus on it's effects.

The only thing they seem to agree on is that it probably causes more rain in a tropical storm.

And they also agree that tropical storms become stronger, in the way of having 1000 year events every few years and that sea levels are rising.

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 01, 2017, 04:00:54 PM


HURRICANE HARVEY LOOKS LIKE AN ENGINEERED STORM. It should have dissipated but remained for days.



If you are actually being serious I agree. Good stuff man.



I hope this doesn't offend anyone, as you all know I only seek the truth.

Starts at around 6 minutes in.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_engineering
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 01, 2017, 05:02:06 PM
It's so funny...all these so called "smart" people like dino Neil and lonegranger can't even figure out with their infinite wisdom that denspressure is trolling them ha ha ha...shows how dumb they really are, and as we suspected their actions are simply a nasty form of deflection.

So Denspressure's post suggesting a conspiracy is an "obvious troll" but Hoppy's post about a chunk of sky falling to earth isn't? And Jora's posts about a conspiracy, are they trolling? What about Sandokhan claiming the Second World War wasn't real, is that a troll? Moonshramps? Earth being flat? OMG it's soooo hard to tell!!!  :o
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 01, 2017, 05:16:23 PM
Denpressure said it "looks" like an engineered storm.
Objectively the satellite imagery shows some strange and unusual activity.
He is trolling you however, but you do that for him.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: FalseProphet on September 01, 2017, 05:20:05 PM
It's so funny...all these so called "smart" people like dino Neil and lonegranger can't even figure out with their infinite wisdom that denspressure is trolling them ha ha ha...shows how dumb they really are, and as we suspected their actions are simply a nasty form of deflection.

So Denspressure's post suggesting a conspiracy is an "obvious troll" but Hoppy's post about a chunk of sky falling to earth isn't? And Jora's posts about a conspiracy, are they trolling? What about Sandokhan claiming the Second World War wasn't real, is that a troll? Moonshramps? Earth being flat? OMG it's soooo hard to tell!!!  :o

Hehe, now I get my vengeance.

And you called me "more gullible than I think I am" because I believed that John Davis denies the existence of dinosaurs.  ;D
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 01, 2017, 05:22:51 PM
It's so funny...all these so called "smart" people like dino Neil and lonegranger can't even figure out with their infinite wisdom that denspressure is trolling them ha ha ha...shows how dumb they really are, and as we suspected their actions are simply a nasty form of deflection.

So Denspressure's post suggesting a conspiracy is an "obvious troll" but Hoppy's post about a chunk of sky falling to earth isn't? And Jora's posts about a conspiracy, are they trolling? What about Sandokhan claiming the Second World War wasn't real, is that a troll? Moonshramps? Earth being flat? OMG it's soooo hard to tell!!!  :o

It's called basic research into who you are talking to.

Hoppy is sincere, the half man half tiger believes what he preaches, jroa is obviously trolling, John Davis is legit for now...any other questions or mysteries you need help with?

Maybe the one of why you feel you must belittle people? It permeates through your text that you enjoy it... There are only a few answers for this and none play well for you...
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 02, 2017, 12:31:47 AM
I made the hurricane and it's coming to Florida unless SCG makes sauerkraut.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 02, 2017, 12:55:35 AM

Objectively the satellite imagery shows some strange and unusual activity.



It's like it's all blowing around in the wind. Very strange for a storm.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 02, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
It's so funny...all these so called "smart" people like dino Neil and lonegranger can't even figure out with their infinite wisdom that denspressure is trolling them ha ha ha...shows how dumb they really are, and as we suspected their actions are simply a nasty form of deflection.

So Denspressure's post suggesting a conspiracy is an "obvious troll" but Hoppy's post about a chunk of sky falling to earth isn't? And Jora's posts about a conspiracy, are they trolling? What about Sandokhan claiming the Second World War wasn't real, is that a troll? Moonshramps? Earth being flat? OMG it's soooo hard to tell!!!  :o

John Davis is legit for now...

John Davis is legit?!?!?!?
Oh boy, you think I can't spot a troll, yet you fall for THAT?  ::) ;D :P
Deadly moonlight requiring you to wear sunglasses at night? Moonshramps that communicate with earthlings via dreams? Dinosaurs travelled around the world in boats they built? The earth is an infinite plane? Oh wait, dinosaurs weren't real after all, they're all made in China!

Yes, John can't possibly be trolling, can he?

At least I've got the excuse that I have only read a couple of Denspressure's posts, he wasn't here before my recent return to the forum. You have no excuse at all.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 02, 2017, 04:31:20 AM
Denpressure said it "looks" like an engineered storm.
Objectively the satellite imagery shows some strange and unusual activity.
He is trolling you however, but you do that for him.

You believe in chemtrails, so your opinions are worthless.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: sandokhan on September 02, 2017, 05:18:23 AM
What about Sandokhan claiming the Second World War wasn't real, is that a troll?

I never made any such claims.

What I have said is that events prior to 1800 AD are pure fiction, given the fact that the destruction of both Pompeii and Herculaneum occurred at least after 1750 AD.

As for WWII, the Nazis never bothered to inquire why certain banks and corporations from the USA and Great Britain helped them so much prior to 1939 and certainly up to 1943.

The greatest military blunder of all time is Germany's acceptance of the Ribbentrop-Molotov agreement, which brought the Soviet Union closer to Germany's borders.

WWII could have been over as early as 1942, but Churchill showed a map to a perplexed audience (including Soviet officials) and pointed to Italy as being the "soft underbelly of Germany". Instead of liberating France in 1942, the war was prolonged for an additional three years, in order to set up the nuclear energy/atom bomb hoax.


Weather geoengineering started out with the research done by Wilhelm Reich.

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_reich05.htm

Basically, the density of laevorotatory subquarks strings (ether/orgone) can either be increased or decreased using the cloudbusting machine invented by Reich.


"Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations...It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts."

Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn.

Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, Athens, Apr. 28, 1997


From a technical point of view, weather engineering involves scalar waves (subquark strings or ether), namely making use of J.C. Maxwell's original set of ether equations expressed in quaternion form.



Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: boydster on September 02, 2017, 08:08:17 AM
I made the hurricane and it's coming to Florida unless SCG makes sauerkraut.

This post needs to be taken seriously, folks. I was here for the previous kraut rebellion and it was not pretty.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 02, 2017, 08:45:26 AM
What about Sandokhan claiming the Second World War wasn't real, is that a troll?

I never made any such claims.

What I have said is that events prior to 1800 AD are pure fiction, given the fact that the destruction of both Pompeii and Herculaneum occurred at least after 1750 AD.


OK, so then you're saying both English civil wars, the Crusades, the American War of Independence, the building of the Pyramids and the reign of the Roman Empire are all fictional?

Well, I may have been wrong about WW2, but you have just proved you're even more wacko than if you just didn't believe that.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: sandokhan on September 02, 2017, 08:57:04 AM
This is not the thread to address the new radical chronology of history, however...

Go ahead and study the undeniable proof that the arctangent series was used to calculate the slope/angle of the face of the Gizeh pyramid:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1834389#msg1834389 (four consecutive messages)

The angle of the slope of the Pyramid’s outer casing is 51.855 degrees.

TAN 51.8554 DEGREES = TWO SACRED CUBITS = 1.27330478216 = 0.636652 x 2

In order to reach the value of 51.8554 degrees, the architects MUST have used the extended arctangent series to achieve the final result.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/1/a/6/1a65c25333063610ba7ca6aecd562356.png)

The other angle of the triangle, 38.145 degrees, is also closely related to the sacred cubit:

38.13 = 60 sacred cubits


Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 02, 2017, 09:10:25 AM
This is not the thread to address the new radical chronology of history, however...

Go ahead and study the undeniable proof that the arctangent series was used to calculate the slope/angle of the face of the Gizeh pyramid:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1834389#msg1834389 (four consecutive messages)

The angle of the slope of the Pyramid’s outer casing is 51.855 degrees.

TAN 51.8554 DEGREES = TWO SACRED CUBITS = 1.27330478216 = 0.636652 x 2

In order to reach the value of 51.8554 degrees, the architects MUST have used the extended arctangent series to achieve the final result.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/1/a/6/1a65c25333063610ba7ca6aecd562356.png)

The other angle of the triangle, 38.145 degrees, is also closely related to the sacred cubit:

38.13 = 60 sacred cubits

Er... do you not understand that the ratio of height to base length is what determines the slope? Given that it's likely the height of the pyramid was simply based on a right angled triangle with the ratio of 1:φ (the "golden ratio" common throughout nature and man made forms, where 1 is the shortest side and φ is the longest, giving a height of the square root of φ) then the angle of the slope is an automatic consequence of that.
Much simpler, much more likely. No arctangent series needed.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 02, 2017, 09:26:59 AM
How... did Sandokhan and his mangled up math end up here??
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on September 02, 2017, 09:36:41 AM
I made the hurricane and it's coming to Florida unless SCG makes sauerkraut.

This post needs to be taken seriously, folks. I was here for the previous kraut rebellion and it was not pretty.

I need to get the cabbage  >:(
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: sandokhan on September 02, 2017, 09:37:11 AM
The most important constant of them all is not the golden ratio, or pi, but the sacred cubit.

In fact, the sacred cubit is designated in the form of a horseshoe projection, known as the "Boss" on the face of the Granite Leaf in the Ante-Chamber of the Pyramid. By application of this unit of measurement it was discovered to be subdivided into 25 equal parts known now as: Pyramid inches.

ONE SACRED CUBIT = 0.6356621 meters

(http://www.aldokkan.com/photos/great_pyramid/30_great_pyramid.jpg)

the ratio of height to base length is what determines the slope?

You still don't get it.

Gizeh pyramid height:

5.247 + 136.1 + 7.2738= 148.621

Gizeh pyramid base/2 = 116.712

148.621/116.712 = 1.2733977 = 2 x 0.6366 = 2 x TWO SACRED CUBITS

then the angle of the slope is an automatic consequence of that.

No, it has to be calculated to the very degree, minute, second, in order for the extremely precise measurements of the pyramid to be fulfilled to the very centimeter.

TAN X = 1.2733977

The architects had to solve for X.

Then, you have four choices at your disposal, listed right here:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1835342#msg1835342

All of these four choices necessitate the use of advanced mathematics, especially mathematical analysis.

So yes, you do need the arctangent series to calculate the value of the desired angle.

Moreover, the value of the other angle of the triangle equals 60 sacred cubits.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Denspressure on September 02, 2017, 10:26:27 AM
The most important constant of them all is not the golden ratio, or pi, but the sacred cubit.

In fact, the sacred cubit is designated in the form of a horseshoe projection, known as the "Boss" on the face of the Granite Leaf in the Ante-Chamber of the Pyramid. By application of this unit of measurement it was discovered to be subdivided into 25 equal parts known now as: Pyramid inches.

ONE SACRED CUBIT = 0.6356621 meters

(http://www.aldokkan.com/photos/great_pyramid/30_great_pyramid.jpg)

the ratio of height to base length is what determines the slope?

You still don't get it.

Gizeh pyramid height:

5.247 + 136.1 + 7.2738= 148.621

Gizeh pyramid base/2 = 116.712

148.621/116.712 = 1.2733977 = 2 x 0.6366 = 2 x TWO SACRED CUBITS

then the angle of the slope is an automatic consequence of that.

No, it has to be calculated to the very degree, minute, second, in order for the extremely precise measurements of the pyramid to be fulfilled to the very centimeter.

TAN X = 1.2733977

The architects had to solve for X.

Then, you have four choices at your disposal, listed right here:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1835342#msg1835342

All of these four choices necessitate the use of advanced mathematics, especially mathematical analysis.

So yes, you do need the arctangent series to calculate the value of the desired angle.

Moreover, the value of the other angle of the triangle equals 60 sacred cubits.
Agreed
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 02, 2017, 10:56:22 AM
I don't know why, but this "Agreed" after sandokhan's massive rant was hilarious. Something about the "timing". Thanks dens!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 02, 2017, 12:41:59 PM
How... did Sandokhan and his mangled up math end up here??

I made the mistake of mentioning him. Much like J Edgar Hoover - if you think of him, he will appear and destroy us.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: GRIZZ420 on September 02, 2017, 01:03:07 PM
There might be something to this. Weather manipulation has been studied for years and governments might have it already. I dont know if it exists or is actually used but look at these recent videos that start stacking a bigger picture about it that makes you think twice.

I time stamped the relevant stuff about this. Watch these in order which starts just before Harvey and then during it. The evidence starts to stack up. Could it be true? Decide for yourself.

start-6:15
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This whole video but check out the overlay at 6:10
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5:24-to the end
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5:30-to the end
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Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Rayzor on September 03, 2017, 04:33:35 AM
I made the hurricane and it's coming to Florida unless SCG makes sauerkraut.

This post needs to be taken seriously, folks. I was here for the previous kraut rebellion and it was not pretty.

Jroa, has a good recipe for sauerkraut.   No complex maths involved,  so Sandokhan can stand down for now.

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Rayzor on September 03, 2017, 04:37:05 AM

Objectively the satellite imagery shows some strange and unusual activity.



It's like it's all blowing around in the wind. Very strange for a storm.

Cough,  splutter....    yes,  strange is a good word.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 03, 2017, 09:38:07 AM
Objectively the satellite imagery shows some strange and unusual activity.
I thought that all satellites are fake and those images are just cgi.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 04, 2017, 10:04:49 AM
Objectively the satellite imagery shows some strange and unusual activity.
I thought that all satellites are fake and those images are just cgi.

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 04, 2017, 01:54:12 PM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.




Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 04, 2017, 02:09:22 PM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Thank you for your question. For more details, study my popular website, http://heiwaco.com.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 04, 2017, 02:55:44 PM
I think he may actually be a chat box
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 04, 2017, 03:15:02 PM
I think he may actually be a chat box

Nah, senility would suffice.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 04, 2017, 03:21:01 PM
Footage if Heiwa irl on a cruise on one of his ships:


(I apologize in advance if someone finds this offensive in case he/she has a friend or relative with aphasia. It's not my intention to mock the guy, I had a couple of relatives with forms of aphasia and I know it's tough.)
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 04, 2017, 08:52:58 PM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Badxtoss on September 04, 2017, 08:57:55 PM
What about Sandokhan claiming the Second World War wasn't real, is that a troll?

I never made any such claims.

What I have said is that events prior to 1800 AD are pure fiction, given the fact that the destruction of both Pompeii and Herculaneum occurred at least after 1750 AD.

As for WWII, the Nazis never bothered to inquire why certain banks and corporations from the USA and Great Britain helped them so much prior to 1939 and certainly up to 1943.

The greatest military blunder of all time is Germany's acceptance of the Ribbentrop-Molotov agreement, which brought the Soviet Union closer to Germany's borders.

WWII could have been over as early as 1942, but Churchill showed a map to a perplexed audience (including Soviet officials) and pointed to Italy as being the "soft underbelly of Germany". Instead of liberating France in 1942, the war was prolonged for an additional three years, in order to set up the nuclear energy/atom bomb hoax.


Weather geoengineering started out with the research done by Wilhelm Reich.

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_reich05.htm

Basically, the density of laevorotatory subquarks strings (ether/orgone) can either be increased or decreased using the cloudbusting machine invented by Reich.


"Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations...It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts."

Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn.

Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, Athens, Apr. 28, 1997


From a technical point of view, weather engineering involves scalar waves (subquark strings or ether), namely making use of J.C. Maxwell's original set of ether equations expressed in quaternion form.
You know that after your statement about everything prior to 1800 being fiction nothing you say can possibly be taken seriousl.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 04, 2017, 09:09:00 PM
You know that after your statement about everything prior to 1800 being fiction nothing you say can possibly be taken seriousl.

Actually he could be onto something.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Last_Thursdayism


But maybe the universe popped into existence on one particular Thursday in 1800
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: sandokhan on September 04, 2017, 10:32:36 PM
You know that after your statement about everything prior to 1800 being fiction nothing you say can possibly be taken seriousl.

The application of the Gauss Easter formula to historical events leaves no room for errors:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg758652#msg758652


Pompeii and Herculaneum were destroyed at least after 1750 AD:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1683424#msg1683424 (five consecutive messages)


The most direct proof that the biography of Dionysius Exiguus, the central pillar of modern chronology, was faked/falsified/forged during the Renaissance:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1674108#msg1674108

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1674662#msg1674662

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1638504#msg1638504


Galileo and Kepler, fictional characters invented at a later time in history:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1638725#msg1638725


When did Shakespeare live?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1620012#msg1620012


L. Euler: a fictional character invented at the end of the 18th century:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1483598#msg1483598

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1483917#msg1483917


The astronomical recordings attributed to Benjamin Franklin and the London Royal Society during the 18th century could not possibly be true:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1484659#msg1484659

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1488947#msg1488947
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 05, 2017, 02:59:02 AM
I think he may actually be a chat box
Unfortunately not a chat box.  You can find interviews on line, he's on the record as providing public comments to NIST with other members of AE911Truth.  Of course that is before they figured out he was a nut job on a stick and removed him from their petition list.  He was even petitioner of the month at AE911Truth but after his harebrained theories got out they removed his profile and wanted nothing to do with him.  You can still find his profile and other things on AE911Truth on the wayback machine.

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/home/anders-bjorkman-s-world

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 05, 2017, 08:08:53 AM
Hurricane IRMA is just now passing France's islands in the Carribean and will hopefully not cause too much damages there, BUT it will then hit USA and then nobody knows ....

I recommend you clean your gutters, if any.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Badxtoss on September 05, 2017, 08:27:07 AM
You know that after your statement about everything prior to 1800 being fiction nothing you say can possibly be taken seriousl.

The application of the Gauss Easter formula to historical events leaves no room for errors:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg758652#msg758652


Pompeii and Herculaneum were destroyed at least after 1750 AD:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1683424#msg1683424 (five consecutive messages)


The most direct proof that the biography of Dionysius Exiguus, the central pillar of modern chronology, was faked/falsified/forged during the Renaissance:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1674108#msg1674108

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1674662#msg1674662

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1638504#msg1638504


Galileo and Kepler, fictional characters invented at a later time in history:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1638725#msg1638725


When did Shakespeare live?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1620012#msg1620012


L. Euler: a fictional character invented at the end of the 18th century:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1483598#msg1483598

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1483917#msg1483917


The astronomical recordings attributed to Benjamin Franklin and the London Royal Society during the 18th century could not possibly be true:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1484659#msg1484659

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1488947#msg1488947
Linking to pages where you said it before doesn't make it true.  As I said nothing you say can be taken seriously
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Crouton on September 05, 2017, 11:37:56 AM
Maybe it's time to build that wall!  No not that wall, this wall. (http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/27/us/weather-houston-hurricane-wall/index.html)  We can still make Mexico pay for it.

Hurricane IRMA is just now passing France's islands in the Carribean and will hopefully not cause too much damages there, BUT it will then hit USA and then nobody knows ....

I recommend you clean your gutters, if any.

I kind of expected you to blame their toilets if anything.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 05, 2017, 02:39:38 PM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!

If you have gutters, why are you up here and not where you belong you piece of shit?

In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap. Of course they had gutters. Mocking them for supposedly not having gutters just shows that you're completely ignorant and a horrible person.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 05, 2017, 08:27:37 PM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!

If you have gutters, why are you up here and not where you belong you piece of shit?
Because gutters are part of a storm drain system, not a sewer system.  Duh!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: NAZA on September 05, 2017, 08:43:20 PM
The flooding problem is not due to lack of gutters.
The problem is Houston is 50 feet below sea level.

http://100percentfedup.com/lol-shelia-jackson-lee-declares-houston-50-sea-level-video/amp/
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 05, 2017, 09:41:16 PM
Denpressure said it "looks" like an engineered storm.
Objectively the satellite imagery shows some strange and unusual activity.
He is trolling you however, but you do that for him.

You believe in chemtrails, so your opinions are worthless.

Hi CIA.
http://www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/what-is-geoengineering/what-is-geoengineering/

^^^
Really activates the old almonds. Maybe they made some mistakes while geo engineering. We don't know the effects of it yet. It's all based on models.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 05, 2017, 09:44:55 PM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!

If you have gutters, why are you up here and not where you belong you piece of shit?

In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap. Of course they had gutters. Mocking them for supposedly not having gutters just shows that you're completely ignorant and a horrible person.

So they had gutters but they were not big enough so I am ignorant and a horrible person. Typical American twerp reaction. Or Houston is below sea level like great parts of Holland and is thus flooded, when it rains, even if it does not happen in Holland.
Sorry, the cause of the Houston disaster is a typical twerp error.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 05, 2017, 09:57:23 PM
I found this an interesting read

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/artificial-weather-revealed-post-9-11-flight-groundings

It's about the effect the 3 day flight ban had in America due to the absence of contrails. Looking at the satellite photos it's also clear that artificial clouds are outnumbering natural clouds

I had a quick look at this site

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/category/drought-2/

It looks interesting
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 05, 2017, 10:31:20 PM
I found this an interesting read

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/artificial-weather-revealed-post-9-11-flight-groundings

It's about the effect the 3 day flight ban had in America due to the absence of contrails. Looking at the satellite photos it's also clear that artificial clouds are outnumbering natural clouds

I had a quick look at this site

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/category/drought-2/

It looks interesting

Careful, Dino Neil will be mad at you   ;D ;D
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2017, 02:32:26 AM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!

If you have gutters, why are you up here and not where you belong you piece of shit?

In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap. Of course they had gutters. Mocking them for supposedly not having gutters just shows that you're completely ignorant and a horrible person.

So they had gutters but they were not big enough so I am ignorant and a horrible person. Typical American twerp reaction. Or Houston is below sea level like great parts of Holland and is thus flooded, when it rains, even if it does not happen in Holland.
Sorry, the cause of the Houston disaster is a typical twerp error.

Typical senile curmudgeon forgetting I am not american reaction.

There was nothing wrong with their gutters. That's what happens to every region that is flat and of low elevation when hit by a storm of this magnitude. It's extremely hard to create a system to drain all that water. You being unaware of that and calling them twerps is why you're ignorant and a horrible person.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 06, 2017, 03:10:57 AM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!

If you have gutters, why are you up here and not where you belong you piece of shit?

In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap. Of course they had gutters. Mocking them for supposedly not having gutters just shows that you're completely ignorant and a horrible person.

So they had gutters but they were not big enough so I am ignorant and a horrible person. Typical American twerp reaction. Or Houston is below sea level like great parts of Holland and is thus flooded, when it rains, even if it does not happen in Holland.
Sorry, the cause of the Houston disaster is a typical twerp error.
When was the last time Holland had 50 inches of rain in four day period.  There isn't a city in the world that can handle that amount of rain in a short period of time.  Of course your engineering skills suck so that concept was probably lost on you.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 06, 2017, 03:35:57 AM
It's nearly like its his job to make everyone think hes an absolute idiot.

I think he may actually be a chat box
Unfortunately not a chat box.  You can find interviews on line, he's on the record as providing public comments to NIST with other members of AE911Truth.  Of course that is before they figured out he was a nut job on a stick and removed him from their petition list.  He was even petitioner of the month at AE911Truth but after his harebrained theories got out they removed his profile and wanted nothing to do with him.  You can still find his profile and other things on AE911Truth on the wayback machine.

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/home/anders-bjorkman-s-world

Mike

Great research man. Yeah it's not a secret. I don't trust him an inch.

So good to hear someone using the way back machine for research.
10/10.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 06, 2017, 04:10:50 AM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!

If you have gutters, why are you up here and not where you belong you piece of shit?

In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap. Of course they had gutters. Mocking them for supposedly not having gutters just shows that you're completely ignorant and a horrible person.

So they had gutters but they were not big enough so I am ignorant and a horrible person. Typical American twerp reaction. Or Houston is below sea level like great parts of Holland and is thus flooded, when it rains, even if it does not happen in Holland.
Sorry, the cause of the Houston disaster is a typical twerp error.
When was the last time Holland had 50 inches of rain in four day period.  There isn't a city in the world that can handle that amount of rain in a short period of time.  Of course your engineering skills suck so that concept was probably lost on you.

Mike
Hm, I lived/worked year 1977 in Holland/Rotterdam/Schiedam/Vlaardingen and it was raining most (95/100) of the time ... but no flooding. And my biz is safety at sea, i.e. keep the water out ... you are safe.
At Houston/TX/USA the twerps thought that Donald Trump would come and pump away the rain water. But he didn't. He was on vaccation playing golf.
Please don't blame me for it.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 06, 2017, 04:27:38 AM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!

If you have gutters, why are you up here and not where you belong you piece of shit?

In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap. Of course they had gutters. Mocking them for supposedly not having gutters just shows that you're completely ignorant and a horrible person.

So they had gutters but they were not big enough so I am ignorant and a horrible person. Typical American twerp reaction. Or Houston is below sea level like great parts of Holland and is thus flooded, when it rains, even if it does not happen in Holland.
Sorry, the cause of the Houston disaster is a typical twerp error.
When was the last time Holland had 50 inches of rain in four day period.  There isn't a city in the world that can handle that amount of rain in a short period of time.  Of course your engineering skills suck so that concept was probably lost on you.

Mike
Hm, I lived/worked year 1977 in Holland/Rotterdam/Schiedam/Vlaardingen and it was raining most (95/100) of the time ... but no flooding. And my biz is safety at sea, i.e. keep the water out ... you are safe.
At Houston/TX/USA the twerps thought that Donald Trump would come and pump away the rain water. But he didn't. He was on vaccation playing golf.
Please don't blame me for it.
You're a liar. Holland gets less rain in a year than Houston got in four days.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 06, 2017, 04:28:39 AM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!

If you have gutters, why are you up here and not where you belong you piece of shit?

In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap. Of course they had gutters. Mocking them for supposedly not having gutters just shows that you're completely ignorant and a horrible person.

So they had gutters but they were not big enough so I am ignorant and a horrible person. Typical American twerp reaction. Or Houston is below sea level like great parts of Holland and is thus flooded, when it rains, even if it does not happen in Holland.
Sorry, the cause of the Houston disaster is a typical twerp error.
When was the last time Holland had 50 inches of rain in four day period.  There isn't a city in the world that can handle that amount of rain in a short period of time.  Of course your engineering skills suck so that concept was probably lost on you.

Mike
Hm, I lived/worked year 1977 in Holland/Rotterdam/Schiedam/Vlaardingen and it was raining most (95/100) of the time ... but no flooding. And my biz is safety at sea, i.e. keep the water out ... you are safe.
At Houston/TX/USA the twerps thought that Donald Trump would come and pump away the rain water. But he didn't. He was on vaccation playing golf.
Please don't blame me for it.
You're a liar. Holland gets less rain in a year than Houston got in four days.

Mike
You are wrong!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 06, 2017, 04:35:05 AM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!

If you have gutters, why are you up here and not where you belong you piece of shit?

In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap. Of course they had gutters. Mocking them for supposedly not having gutters just shows that you're completely ignorant and a horrible person.

So they had gutters but they were not big enough so I am ignorant and a horrible person. Typical American twerp reaction. Or Houston is below sea level like great parts of Holland and is thus flooded, when it rains, even if it does not happen in Holland.
Sorry, the cause of the Houston disaster is a typical twerp error.
When was the last time Holland had 50 inches of rain in four day period.  There isn't a city in the world that can handle that amount of rain in a short period of time.  Of course your engineering skills suck so that concept was probably lost on you.

Mike
Hm, I lived/worked year 1977 in Holland/Rotterdam/Schiedam/Vlaardingen and it was raining most (95/100) of the time ... but no flooding. And my biz is safety at sea, i.e. keep the water out ... you are safe.
At Houston/TX/USA the twerps thought that Donald Trump would come and pump away the rain water. But he didn't. He was on vaccation playing golf.
Please don't blame me for it.
You're a liar. Holland gets less rain in a year than Houston got in four days.

Mike
You are wrong!
According to these links Holland gets approximately 70-80 cm of rain a year.  Houston got 1-1.25 METERS of rain in 4 days.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/Netherlands/precipitation-annual-average.php

https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Temperature-Sunshine-in-Netherlands

http://www.holland.com/global/tourism/plan-your-holiday/weather/typically-dutch-weather.htm

You’re not only a liar but you aren’t man enough to admit you’re wrong.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 06, 2017, 05:21:01 AM
You’re not only a liar but you aren’t man enough to admit you’re wrong.

Lol Heiwa.


Edit. If I could be bothered I'd shop heiwas head onto the character.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 06, 2017, 11:36:03 AM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!

If you have gutters, why are you up here and not where you belong you piece of shit?

In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap. Of course they had gutters. Mocking them for supposedly not having gutters just shows that you're completely ignorant and a horrible person.

So they had gutters but they were not big enough so I am ignorant and a horrible person. Typical American twerp reaction. Or Houston is below sea level like great parts of Holland and is thus flooded, when it rains, even if it does not happen in Holland.
Sorry, the cause of the Houston disaster is a typical twerp error.
When was the last time Holland had 50 inches of rain in four day period.  There isn't a city in the world that can handle that amount of rain in a short period of time.  Of course your engineering skills suck so that concept was probably lost on you.

Mike
Hm, I lived/worked year 1977 in Holland/Rotterdam/Schiedam/Vlaardingen and it was raining most (95/100) of the time ... but no flooding. And my biz is safety at sea, i.e. keep the water out ... you are safe.
At Houston/TX/USA the twerps thought that Donald Trump would come and pump away the rain water. But he didn't. He was on vaccation playing golf.
Please don't blame me for it.
You're a liar. Holland gets less rain in a year than Houston got in four days.

Mike
You are wrong!
According to these links Holland gets approximately 70-80 cm of rain a year.  Houston got 1-1.25 METERS of rain in 4 days.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/Netherlands/precipitation-annual-average.php

https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Temperature-Sunshine-in-Netherlands

http://www.holland.com/global/tourism/plan-your-holiday/weather/typically-dutch-weather.htm

You’re not only a liar but you aren’t man enough to admit you’re wrong.

Mike

What about the gutters? It seems Houston hasn't gutters to evacuate rain water. Some clown said that Houston people have bath tubs and that, if you remove the plug in it, the water will flow out, but I have such a bath tub too. And I do not live in Houston. And I do not take a bath when it rains. I swim in the Med every day. When the Sun shines.
You sound like a jihadist terrorist, Mike. No brains at all.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 06, 2017, 12:49:00 PM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!

If you have gutters, why are you up here and not where you belong you piece of shit?

In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap. Of course they had gutters. Mocking them for supposedly not having gutters just shows that you're completely ignorant and a horrible person.

So they had gutters but they were not big enough so I am ignorant and a horrible person. Typical American twerp reaction. Or Houston is below sea level like great parts of Holland and is thus flooded, when it rains, even if it does not happen in Holland.
Sorry, the cause of the Houston disaster is a typical twerp error.
When was the last time Holland had 50 inches of rain in four day period.  There isn't a city in the world that can handle that amount of rain in a short period of time.  Of course your engineering skills suck so that concept was probably lost on you.

Mike
Hm, I lived/worked year 1977 in Holland/Rotterdam/Schiedam/Vlaardingen and it was raining most (95/100) of the time ... but no flooding. And my biz is safety at sea, i.e. keep the water out ... you are safe.
At Houston/TX/USA the twerps thought that Donald Trump would come and pump away the rain water. But he didn't. He was on vaccation playing golf.
Please don't blame me for it.
You're a liar. Holland gets less rain in a year than Houston got in four days.

Mike
You are wrong!
According to these links Holland gets approximately 70-80 cm of rain a year.  Houston got 1-1.25 METERS of rain in 4 days.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/Netherlands/precipitation-annual-average.php

https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Temperature-Sunshine-in-Netherlands

http://www.holland.com/global/tourism/plan-your-holiday/weather/typically-dutch-weather.htm

You’re not only a liar but you aren’t man enough to admit you’re wrong.

Mike

What about the gutters? It seems Houston hasn't gutters to evacuate rain water. Some clown said that Houston people have bath tubs and that, if you remove the plug in it, the water will flow out, but I have such a bath tub too. And I do not live in Houston. And I do not take a bath when it rains. I swim in the Med every day. When the Sun shines.
You sound like a jihadist terrorist, Mike. No brains at all.
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?  Gutters weren’t the problem.  The roads have gutters; most houses have gutters, and tall building have roof drainage systems.  None of that had anything to do the flooding.

You can’t tell that any city in the world that gets over a meter of rain in four days will flood?  Are you really such an incompetent engineer that you think gutters would handle a meter of rain?  My God, get a clue will you!

How about you do a little research of your own and find out the real reasons Houston flooded so we don’t have to keep spoon feeding you answers.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2017, 02:22:06 PM
Some clown said that Houston people have bath tubs and that, if you remove the plug in it, the water will flow out, but I have such a bath tub too. And I do not live in Houston. And I do not take a bath when it rains. I swim in the Med every day. When the Sun shines.

What the fuck are you talking about? I've never had the privilege to converse with anyone as impressively dense as you, I am impressed. Here's what I said:

"In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap."

It's called an analogy you senile curmudgeon. Can you not comprehend it? Was your take away seriously that the water drained through their bath tubs?? Look, I would hesitate to say this for anyone, but... Even Intikam is more reasonable, intelligent and makes more sense than you. That is saying a lot. "I do not take a bath when it rains". Wow. You made me almost suffocate laughing. This is unhealthy.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 06, 2017, 02:29:32 PM
Wow, This thread got super Dumb...
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Crouton on September 06, 2017, 02:30:26 PM
Wow, This thread got super Dumb...

Wrong!  This thread just Heiwa'd!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 06, 2017, 02:34:45 PM
I think Heiwa has outdone himself this thread which is saying something.

Let me use all my engineering skills, education and experience to help with this subject.

Hmm...a city that is below sea level and it gets over 4 feet of rain in under 4 days.

Yep definitely the gutters...
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2017, 02:51:18 PM
I think it's just fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 06, 2017, 10:36:09 PM
Some clown said that Houston people have bath tubs and that, if you remove the plug in it, the water will flow out, but I have such a bath tub too. And I do not live in Houston. And I do not take a bath when it rains. I swim in the Med every day. When the Sun shines.

What the fuck are you talking about? I've never had the privilege to converse with anyone as impressively dense as you, I am impressed. Here's what I said:

"In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap."

It's called an analogy you senile curmudgeon. Can you not comprehend it? Was your take away seriously that the water drained through their bath tubs?? Look, I would hesitate to say this for anyone, but... Even Intikam is more reasonable, intelligent and makes more sense than you. That is saying a lot. "I do not take a bath when it rains". Wow. You made me almost suffocate laughing. This is unhealthy.

Hm, if the gutters fill up and do not drain away the water, they are incorrectly designed, and this seems to be the case of Houston. And yes, it doesn't rain all the time at Houston so you have to design for the worst case.
I remember visiting Albuquerque, NM, in the middle of a desert where it seldom rains and the town is full of enormous, wide 100', deep 50', gutters with 1" of water at the bottom, when I was there. Maybe when the snow melts in the mountains, they fill up?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 06, 2017, 10:43:11 PM
Heiwa probably thinks forest fires are caused by too many trees.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 06, 2017, 10:43:33 PM
If you're going to rebuild, I say use permeable concrete (if it wasn't already in place)



But holy hell man, a metre of water in a few days as well as those winds would test even the greatest made management system
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 06, 2017, 11:02:51 PM
Heiwa just stop.

You
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Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 07, 2017, 12:30:41 AM
Heiwa just stop.

You
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Why would I stop? I remember September 1994 when M/S Estonia sank and ~1000 persons drowned. The Swedish prime minister announced same day that the bow visor had fallen off, blah, blah, blah. Knowing well that bow visors cannot fall off ships (I operated similar ships), I explained and proved it, and was told by the Swedish government, experts and media that I was an idiot.

I also remember 911 2001 watching NY skyscrapers collapse live on TV from top down producing fountains of smoke and dust. Knowing well basic structural design and damage analysis, I could prove the footage was fakery. It was not popular in certain circles with their particular interests.  GWB’s blah, blah, blah about Arabs were just that – blah, blah, blah. I was again called an idiot.

I was actually then, 2001, doing a little research in Saxony, Germany, where Stalin got his uranium ore to build his atomic bomb 1945/9. No uranium was actually mined there, so Stalin could not have built and exploded an a-bomb 1949. It was just fakery.

It reminded me of my stay in Japan 1972/6. I had two colleagues, who had been boys at Hiroshima and Nagasaki 1945. They had not experienced any FLASHES and their towns disappearing in one sudden ball of fire.  So also the US a-bombs were fakery! Why not? They stopped WW2 in a week. But it was against the law to say so. So again I was called an idiot by people that love a-bombs and killing civilians.

So there is plenty fake news around that has become historical truth. Plenty people believe that Americans have been pissing on the Moon, too, while it is very easy to prove it was just a funny show made on Earth. The Americans are quite good at inventing things. 

And now this Houston disaster. 100% man made! No means to drain away rain water. But another explanation will be invented. It doesn’t solve any problem, though.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 07, 2017, 12:49:46 AM
I'm starting to feel a little sorry for Heiwa actually. Poor bastard has been trolled his whole life.  :-\ :'(
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 07, 2017, 02:32:36 AM
I implore you to watch this video.

Trigger warning, you hear them die. I get very emotional watching it, and very angry. As I said it keeps me up at night. My opinion that justice hasn't been served only compounds this.

I will listen to it once again. I hope you do too. It always upsets me.

The 9/11 truth movement started with families of victims that wanted justice.



You are a despicable person. It's not too late to reclaim what you lost Heiwa. I implore you to try before you pass away. You are still human.

The victims of 9/11 live on in my heart, I won't sleep peacefully until I believe justice has been served. This is just a part of being a human.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 07, 2017, 02:35:33 AM
I'm starting to feel a little sorry for Heiwa actually. Poor bastard has been trolled his whole life.  :-\ :'(

It must be interesting to live in a perpetual state of being trolled without knowing it.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 07, 2017, 02:41:03 AM
Some clown said that Houston people have bath tubs and that, if you remove the plug in it, the water will flow out, but I have such a bath tub too. And I do not live in Houston. And I do not take a bath when it rains. I swim in the Med every day. When the Sun shines.

What the fuck are you talking about? I've never had the privilege to converse with anyone as impressively dense as you, I am impressed. Here's what I said:

"In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap."

It's called an analogy you senile curmudgeon. Can you not comprehend it? Was your take away seriously that the water drained through their bath tubs?? Look, I would hesitate to say this for anyone, but... Even Intikam is more reasonable, intelligent and makes more sense than you. That is saying a lot. "I do not take a bath when it rains". Wow. You made me almost suffocate laughing. This is unhealthy.

Hm, if the gutters fill up and do not drain away the water, they are incorrectly designed, and this seems to be the case of Houston. And yes, it doesn't rain all the time at Houston so you have to design for the worst case.
I remember visiting Albuquerque, NM, in the middle of a desert where it seldom rains and the town is full of enormous, wide 100', deep 50', gutters with 1" of water at the bottom, when I was there. Maybe when the snow melts in the mountains, they fill up?
You are without a doubt the worst engineer I’ve ever talked to.  House gutters have NOTHING to do with this.  Whether rain comes out of the downspout or just cascades off the roof makes no difference.  It’s still makes it to the ground.

The fact is no city can handle 1.25m of rain in four days.  Not even yours.

Clearly, you have no clue what you’re talking about.  That’s evident by the fact you believe that roof gutters have anything to do with how much rain an infrastructure can handle...as if that even makes sense.

So, which is it?  Are you an incompetent engineer or just a fucking troll?

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 07, 2017, 03:18:18 AM

So, which is it?  Are you an incompetent engineer or just a fucking troll?

Mike

Well, he could be a troll, but I don't think he's fucking anyone with looks like that.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 07, 2017, 03:34:30 AM
Some clown said that Houston people have bath tubs and that, if you remove the plug in it, the water will flow out, but I have such a bath tub too. And I do not live in Houston. And I do not take a bath when it rains. I swim in the Med every day. When the Sun shines.

What the fuck are you talking about? I've never had the privilege to converse with anyone as impressively dense as you, I am impressed. Here's what I said:

"In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap."

It's called an analogy you senile curmudgeon. Can you not comprehend it? Was your take away seriously that the water drained through their bath tubs?? Look, I would hesitate to say this for anyone, but... Even Intikam is more reasonable, intelligent and makes more sense than you. That is saying a lot. "I do not take a bath when it rains". Wow. You made me almost suffocate laughing. This is unhealthy.

Hm, if the gutters fill up and do not drain away the water, they are incorrectly designed, and this seems to be the case of Houston. And yes, it doesn't rain all the time at Houston so you have to design for the worst case.
I remember visiting Albuquerque, NM, in the middle of a desert where it seldom rains and the town is full of enormous, wide 100', deep 50', gutters with 1" of water at the bottom, when I was there. Maybe when the snow melts in the mountains, they fill up?
You are without a doubt the worst engineer I’ve ever talked to.  House gutters have NOTHING to do with this.  Whether rain comes out of the downspout or just cascades off the roof makes no difference.  It’s still makes it to the ground.

The fact is no city can handle 1.25m of rain in four days.  Not even yours.

Clearly, you have no clue what you’re talking about.  That’s evident by the fact you believe that roof gutters have anything to do with how much rain an infrastructure can handle...as if that even makes sense.

So, which is it?  Are you an incompetent engineer or just a fucking troll?

Mike

I am a very competent engineer of ship structures, etc. Town planning is not my biz but it seems the new parts of Houston built the last 20 years are located on lowlying wet land around the old place and ... they forgot the gutters and canals to drain away rain water. Maybe the land was not suitable for building houses?
To hide the facts they invent that it was an enormous storm only happening every 1000 years, blah, blah, blah. So it will happen again.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 07, 2017, 03:43:56 AM
Some clown said that Houston people have bath tubs and that, if you remove the plug in it, the water will flow out, but I have such a bath tub too. And I do not live in Houston. And I do not take a bath when it rains. I swim in the Med every day. When the Sun shines.

What the fuck are you talking about? I've never had the privilege to converse with anyone as impressively dense as you, I am impressed. Here's what I said:

"In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap."

It's called an analogy you senile curmudgeon. Can you not comprehend it? Was your take away seriously that the water drained through their bath tubs?? Look, I would hesitate to say this for anyone, but... Even Intikam is more reasonable, intelligent and makes more sense than you. That is saying a lot. "I do not take a bath when it rains". Wow. You made me almost suffocate laughing. This is unhealthy.

Hm, if the gutters fill up and do not drain away the water, they are incorrectly designed, and this seems to be the case of Houston. And yes, it doesn't rain all the time at Houston so you have to design for the worst case.
I remember visiting Albuquerque, NM, in the middle of a desert where it seldom rains and the town is full of enormous, wide 100', deep 50', gutters with 1" of water at the bottom, when I was there. Maybe when the snow melts in the mountains, they fill up?
You are without a doubt the worst engineer I’ve ever talked to.  House gutters have NOTHING to do with this.  Whether rain comes out of the downspout or just cascades off the roof makes no difference.  It’s still makes it to the ground.

The fact is no city can handle 1.25m of rain in four days.  Not even yours.

Clearly, you have no clue what you’re talking about.  That’s evident by the fact you believe that roof gutters have anything to do with how much rain an infrastructure can handle...as if that even makes sense.

So, which is it?  Are you an incompetent engineer or just a fucking troll?

Mike

I am a very competent engineer of ship structures, etc. Town planning is not my biz but it seems the new parts of Houston built the last 20 years are located on lowlying wet land around the old place and ... they forgot the gutters and canals to drain away rain water. Maybe the land was not suitable for building houses?
To hide the facts they invent that it was an enormous storm only happening every 1000 years, blah, blah, blah. So it will happen again.
So now they're lying about the amount of rain...and I suppose you have some kind of evidence for this.  Of course you don't.  You're just a lying sack of shit trying to cover up how inept you are with some conspiracy theory strawman argument.

STFU!

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 07, 2017, 04:03:44 AM
Some clown said that Houston people have bath tubs and that, if you remove the plug in it, the water will flow out, but I have such a bath tub too. And I do not live in Houston. And I do not take a bath when it rains. I swim in the Med every day. When the Sun shines.

What the fuck are you talking about? I've never had the privilege to converse with anyone as impressively dense as you, I am impressed. Here's what I said:

"In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap."

It's called an analogy you senile curmudgeon. Can you not comprehend it? Was your take away seriously that the water drained through their bath tubs?? Look, I would hesitate to say this for anyone, but... Even Intikam is more reasonable, intelligent and makes more sense than you. That is saying a lot. "I do not take a bath when it rains". Wow. You made me almost suffocate laughing. This is unhealthy.

Hm, if the gutters fill up and do not drain away the water, they are incorrectly designed, and this seems to be the case of Houston. And yes, it doesn't rain all the time at Houston so you have to design for the worst case.
I remember visiting Albuquerque, NM, in the middle of a desert where it seldom rains and the town is full of enormous, wide 100', deep 50', gutters with 1" of water at the bottom, when I was there. Maybe when the snow melts in the mountains, they fill up?
You are without a doubt the worst engineer I’ve ever talked to.  House gutters have NOTHING to do with this.  Whether rain comes out of the downspout or just cascades off the roof makes no difference.  It’s still makes it to the ground.

The fact is no city can handle 1.25m of rain in four days.  Not even yours.

Clearly, you have no clue what you’re talking about.  That’s evident by the fact you believe that roof gutters have anything to do with how much rain an infrastructure can handle...as if that even makes sense.

So, which is it?  Are you an incompetent engineer or just a fucking troll?

Mike

I am a very competent engineer of ship structures, etc. Town planning is not my biz but it seems the new parts of Houston built the last 20 years are located on lowlying wet land around the old place and ... they forgot the gutters and canals to drain away rain water. Maybe the land was not suitable for building houses?
To hide the facts they invent that it was an enormous storm only happening every 1000 years, blah, blah, blah. So it will happen again.
So now they're lying about the amount of rain...and I suppose you have some kind of evidence for this.  Of course you don't.  You're just a lying sack of shit trying to cover up how inept you are with some conspiracy theory strawman argument.

STFU!

Mike

No, I am just suggesting why Houston was flooded. Of course it rained - it always rains - but the flooding was due to lack of ... gutters and similar.

Only twerps use foul language. It seems your mother forgot to tell you.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 07, 2017, 04:42:54 AM
Some clown said that Houston people have bath tubs and that, if you remove the plug in it, the water will flow out, but I have such a bath tub too. And I do not live in Houston. And I do not take a bath when it rains. I swim in the Med every day. When the Sun shines.

What the fuck are you talking about? I've never had the privilege to converse with anyone as impressively dense as you, I am impressed. Here's what I said:

"In flat areas sometimes there is so much water that it can't be all drained fast enough, and the gutters fill up. You know, kind of how it takes quite a while for the water to drain from a full bathtub once you remove the tap."

It's called an analogy you senile curmudgeon. Can you not comprehend it? Was your take away seriously that the water drained through their bath tubs?? Look, I would hesitate to say this for anyone, but... Even Intikam is more reasonable, intelligent and makes more sense than you. That is saying a lot. "I do not take a bath when it rains". Wow. You made me almost suffocate laughing. This is unhealthy.

Hm, if the gutters fill up and do not drain away the water, they are incorrectly designed, and this seems to be the case of Houston. And yes, it doesn't rain all the time at Houston so you have to design for the worst case.
I remember visiting Albuquerque, NM, in the middle of a desert where it seldom rains and the town is full of enormous, wide 100', deep 50', gutters with 1" of water at the bottom, when I was there. Maybe when the snow melts in the mountains, they fill up?
You are without a doubt the worst engineer I’ve ever talked to.  House gutters have NOTHING to do with this.  Whether rain comes out of the downspout or just cascades off the roof makes no difference.  It’s still makes it to the ground.

The fact is no city can handle 1.25m of rain in four days.  Not even yours.

Clearly, you have no clue what you’re talking about.  That’s evident by the fact you believe that roof gutters have anything to do with how much rain an infrastructure can handle...as if that even makes sense.

So, which is it?  Are you an incompetent engineer or just a fucking troll?

Mike

I am a very competent engineer of ship structures, etc. Town planning is not my biz but it seems the new parts of Houston built the last 20 years are located on lowlying wet land around the old place and ... they forgot the gutters and canals to drain away rain water. Maybe the land was not suitable for building houses?
To hide the facts they invent that it was an enormous storm only happening every 1000 years, blah, blah, blah. So it will happen again.
So now they're lying about the amount of rain...and I suppose you have some kind of evidence for this.  Of course you don't.  You're just a lying sack of shit trying to cover up how inept you are with some conspiracy theory strawman argument.

STFU!

Mike

No, I am just suggesting why Houston was flooded. Of course it rained - it always rains - but the flooding was due to lack of ... gutters and similar.

Only twerps use foul language. It seems your mother forgot to tell you.
There you go with that shoddy research again.

You have zero basis to assert that any city could handle a meter of rain. Let alone a city you know nothing about.

Still making shit up.

If you don't like my language you can just fuck off.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: frenat on September 07, 2017, 06:10:37 AM

Why would I stop?
Yes, why would he stop?  As a narcissist he is incapable of admitting he is wrong.  His ego won't allow him to.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 07, 2017, 06:31:46 AM
You have zero basis to assert that any city could handle a meter of rain. Let alone a city you know nothing about.

Well, it does look like Houston does have a fairly long history of flooding with far less than a meter of rain at a time.
Quote from: https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cphl/practice/water.htm
Founded in 1836 where the Buffalo Bayou met White Oak Bayou, Houston has faced many floods. Not long after being established, the settlement flooded. Initially swamp land, people began to try and drain the area. Done with no planning, draining the land did not account for flooding rains. Flooding rains would come again and again over the next 180+ years.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 07, 2017, 07:32:52 AM
You have zero basis to assert that any city could handle a meter of rain. Let alone a city you know nothing about.

Well, it does look like Houston does have a fairly long history of flooding with far less than a meter of rain at a time.
Quote from: https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cphl/practice/water.htm
Founded in 1836 where the Buffalo Bayou met White Oak Bayou, Houston has faced many floods. Not long after being established, the settlement flooded. Initially swamp land, people began to try and drain the area. Done with no planning, draining the land did not account for flooding rains. Flooding rains would come again and again over the next 180+ years.
You are correct.  It has been a long time problem in Houston.  But, is has nothing to do with gutters.  The biggest problem they have is the tight clay soil structure.  It doesn’t allow the soil to absorb much water so the only method of removal is run off.  They have a huge network of ditches, storm drains, roadway grates, sewers, etc. that was designed to handle thirteen inches in a twenty four hour period. 

Due to the amount of non-permeable hardscape and heavy clay soil structure even that barely controls the flooding during the normal downpours they have.  Now we have the system limit received for four straight days.  It just couldn’t keep up.

The truth is that any city of that size would have had catastrophic flooding with that amount of rain but it was compounded by the unique natural conditions coupled the non-permeable hardscape.

Since dickless is supposed to be an engineer, he should have realized that over a meter of rain in one location in such a short period of time would be a disaster for any city.  Heiwa obviously has a very limited problem solving ability.  Hell, anyone with google could have found out what was going on in about ten minutes.  Apparently Anders doesn’t know how to use a search engine so he resorts to illogical, unfounded assumptions.

Either that or he really is nothing but a fuckin’ troll.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 07, 2017, 08:31:17 AM
You have zero basis to assert that any city could handle a meter of rain. Let alone a city you know nothing about.

Well, it does look like Houston does have a fairly long history of flooding with far less than a meter of rain at a time.
Quote from: https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cphl/practice/water.htm
Founded in 1836 where the Buffalo Bayou met White Oak Bayou, Houston has faced many floods. Not long after being established, the settlement flooded. Initially swamp land, people began to try and drain the area. Done with no planning, draining the land did not account for flooding rains. Flooding rains would come again and again over the next 180+ years.
You are correct.  It has been a long time problem in Houston.  But, is has nothing to do with gutters.  The biggest problem they have is the tight clay soil structure.  It doesn’t allow the soil to absorb much water so the only method of removal is run off.  They have a huge network of ditches, storm drains, roadway grates, sewers, etc. that was designed to handle thirteen inches in a twenty four hour period. 

Due to the amount of non-permeable hardscape and heavy clay soil structure even that barely controls the flooding during the normal downpours they have.  Now we have the system limit received for four straight days.  It just couldn’t keep up.

The truth is that any city of that size would have had catastrophic flooding with that amount of rain but it was compounded by the unique natural conditions coupled the non-permeable hardscape.

Since dickless is supposed to be an engineer, he should have realized that over a meter of rain in one location in such a short period of time would be a disaster for any city.  Heiwa obviously has a very limited problem solving ability.  Hell, anyone with google could have found out what was going on in about ten minutes.  Apparently Anders doesn’t know how to use a search engine so he resorts to illogical, unfounded assumptions.

Either that or he really is nothing but a fuckin’ troll.

Mike

Yes, this is what I said from the beginning. Someone forgot to fit gutters in the Houston hardscape ... and what was on the hardscape was flooded when it rained, due to lack of gutters.

You sound like a guttersnipe.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 07, 2017, 09:38:15 AM

Yes, this is what I said from the beginning. Someone forgot to fit gutters in the Houston hardscape ... and what was on the hardscape was flooded when it rained, due to lack of gutters.

You sound like a guttersnipe.


If Houston was nothing but one immense gutter, it would still be flooded.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 07, 2017, 10:00:29 AM

Yes, this is what I said from the beginning. Someone forgot to fit gutters in the Houston hardscape ... and what was on the hardscape was flooded when it rained, due to lack of gutters.

You sound like a guttersnipe.


If Houston was nothing but one immense gutter, it would still be flooded.
Don't bother. He's clueless.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 07, 2017, 10:05:28 AM

Yes, this is what I said from the beginning. Someone forgot to fit gutters in the Houston hardscape ... and what was on the hardscape was flooded when it rained, due to lack of gutters.

You sound like a guttersnipe.


If Houston was nothing but one immense gutter, it would still be flooded.
Don't bother. He's clueless.

Yes, I know.
That's why I didn't type three paragraphs.  ;)
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 07, 2017, 10:52:58 AM

Yes, this is what I said from the beginning. Someone forgot to fit gutters in the Houston hardscape ... and what was on the hardscape was flooded when it rained, due to lack of gutters.

You sound like a guttersnipe.


If Houston was nothing but one immense gutter, it would still be flooded.
You sound like a guttersnipe.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Crouton on September 07, 2017, 10:54:34 AM

Yes, this is what I said from the beginning. Someone forgot to fit gutters in the Houston hardscape ... and what was on the hardscape was flooded when it rained, due to lack of gutters.

You sound like a guttersnipe.


If Houston was nothing but one immense gutter, it would still be flooded.
You sound like a guttersnipe.

Is guttersnipe better or worse than being a twerp?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 07, 2017, 10:55:23 AM

Yes, this is what I said from the beginning. Someone forgot to fit gutters in the Houston hardscape ... and what was on the hardscape was flooded when it rained, due to lack of gutters.

You sound like a guttersnipe.


If Houston was nothing but one immense gutter, it would still be flooded.
You sound like a guttersnipe.

Is guttersnipe better or worse than being a twerp?

You sound like a guttersnipe.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 07, 2017, 10:59:23 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/bnRDxY2.png)
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 07, 2017, 11:28:34 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/bnRDxY2.png)
You sound like a guttersnipe.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 07, 2017, 11:32:44 AM
Truly pointing out the massive idiot (or more than likely chat box, as you notice, his answers are always generic and never addresses people by name)...

I was in Houston, they certain had gutters and drainage. It was the over 4 feet of rain in under 4 days in a city below sea level that was the kicker...though anyone with half a brain or real human would know this.

Also, anyone seen a functioning gutter that over flowed over the sides because it could not drain the water in time because it received too much too fast?

As I said though, Heiwa more than likely is a chat box the more I see him in action. Until I see him directly address someone I will not be changing my mind on this
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 07, 2017, 11:36:34 AM

You sound like a guttersnipe.



Do you have access to a goat farm?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 07, 2017, 11:46:29 AM

You sound like a guttersnipe.



Do you have access to a goat farm?

You sound like a guttersnipe.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 07, 2017, 01:21:36 PM

You sound like a guttersnipe.



Do you have access to a goat farm?

You sound like a guttersnipe.
You sound like gutters are your new obsession.

Don't forget to put a helmet on your gutters.
(https://www.valpak.com/img/bpp/gutter-helmet-features.jpg)
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 07, 2017, 03:22:29 PM
And that friends is why Houston flooded. YOU DIDN'T HAVE HELMETS ON YOUR GUTTERS!!!!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: hoppy on September 10, 2017, 05:01:47 PM

No, no. It was a real storm. But in Texas, when you build a town, no gutters are required so that water can escape. It seems, to save money, gutters are not required in Texas.



You are enthusiastically stupid.
Probably the most pathetic humanoid I have ever had the displeasure of noticing.

Hm, if gutters (water escapes) had been fitted, the water would have flowed away and there would have been no flooding and destruction of Houston.

Of course, gutters must have the right size and be kept clean to allow water to escape but at Houston ... no gutters at all!
ARe you serious? Is Texas covered with houses?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: hoppy on September 10, 2017, 05:08:20 PM
I'm starting to feel a little sorry for Heiwa actually. Poor bastard has been trolled his whole life.  :-\ :'(

It must be interesting to live in a perpetual state of being trolled without knowing it.
What does trolled mean?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Rayzor on September 10, 2017, 05:42:31 PM
I'm starting to feel a little sorry for Heiwa actually. Poor bastard has been trolled his whole life.  :-\ :'(

It must be interesting to live in a perpetual state of being trolled without knowing it.
What does trolled mean?

LOL,  the sheep has a sense of humor after all.   Damn,  the moose better watch his back.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 10, 2017, 08:51:41 PM
Most of you owe me a sincere apology. Not mentioning names, you know who you are.



http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/10/21/scientist-dr-michio-kaku-admits-government-weather-control-on-cbs-news/

I wonder what kakus endgame is, I always picked him for a shill. Shills are slipping it seems.

The world is truly changing.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: sokarul on September 10, 2017, 09:29:22 PM
yawn
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 10, 2017, 09:38:10 PM
Not a fan of kaku sock?



I'm not either.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Rayzor on September 10, 2017, 09:52:02 PM
Not a fan of kaku sock?

I'm not either.

You forgot the cloud seeding experiments the CSIRO did back in the 1950's and 60's,   so what's new.

Yawn x 2
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 10, 2017, 10:01:56 PM
Well people are dying needlessly and we could stop it.

Quote
At least 70 dead.

Yawn

yawn

How can you yawn at that?

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

I know you love kaku.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: sokarul on September 10, 2017, 10:08:24 PM
Hurricanes during hurricane season.  Most be fake.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 10, 2017, 10:12:30 PM
Hurricanes during hurricane season.  Most be fake.

That's  a strawman. All you are capable of currently it seems. I expect better.

We deserve to know the entire truth. Do you disagree?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: sokarul on September 10, 2017, 10:22:12 PM
It's hurricane season. That's the truth.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 10, 2017, 10:32:58 PM
It's hurricane season. That's the truth.

Truth.

Can't seed a hurricane without clouds bro.

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: sokarul on September 11, 2017, 06:04:47 AM
Congrats for making the guy money.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 11, 2017, 07:10:13 AM
We deserve to know the entire truth. Do you disagree?
Sez who?  What makes you so special that you should know the entire truth?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 11, 2017, 07:38:21 AM
We deserve to know the entire truth. Do you disagree?
Sez who?  What makes you so special that you should know the entire truth?

People who are well informed will make good decisions, JFK believed this as do I. People made democracy to empower themselves yet the people are losing their voice.

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 11, 2017, 11:05:26 AM
I'm sorry disputeone...

Could you please site the source of that weather map you keep posting?

Thanks kindly...

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 11, 2017, 12:40:46 PM
We deserve to know the entire truth. Do you disagree?
Sez who?  What makes you so special that you should know the entire truth?
Why do you always ask stupid questions?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 11, 2017, 01:01:40 PM
We deserve to know the entire truth. Do you disagree?
Sez who?  What makes you so special that you should know the entire truth?
Why do you always ask stupid questions?
Because you're so good at giving stupid answers.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: disputeone on September 11, 2017, 03:34:04 PM
I'm sorry disputeone...

Could you please site the source of that weather map you keep posting?

Thanks kindly...

http://heavy.com/news/2017/08/hurricane-harvey-live-radar-doppler-feeds-news-streams-where-is-it-watch/

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 12, 2017, 02:54:20 AM
We deserve to know the entire truth. Do you disagree?
Sez who?  What makes you so special that you should know the entire truth?
Why do you always ask stupid questions?
Because you're so good at giving stupid answers.
Well, topic is if the hurricane Harvey was created not by nature as expectd but by humans (a CT!), and I thought Harvey looked pretty natural and added, if gutters had been fitted, Houston would not have been flooded. Plenty stupid guttersnipes then thought that gutters only collect rain water from roofs and forgot that gutters, i.e. channels, are also installed around houses and roads to evacuate rain water away from them to inhabited areas, e.g. the sea.

And it seems local building regulations in Texas do not require gutters.

So you can only blame the local government. I remember when GWB was governor and I asked him how he trained the state servants acting as executioners of all people sentenced to death in Texas. I never got an answer. And I forgot to ask about the gutters.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 12, 2017, 05:29:20 AM
We deserve to know the entire truth. Do you disagree?
Sez who?  What makes you so special that you should know the entire truth?
Why do you always ask stupid questions?
Because you're so good at giving stupid answers.
Well, topic is if the hurricane Harvey was created not by nature as expectd but by humans (a CT!), and I thought Harvey looked pretty natural and added, if gutters had been fitted, Houston would not have been flooded. Plenty stupid guttersnipes then thought that gutters only collect rain water from roofs and forgot that gutters, i.e. channels, are also installed around houses and roads to evacuate rain water away from them to inhabited areas, e.g. the sea.

And it seems local building regulations in Texas do not require gutters.

So you can only blame the local government. I remember when GWB was governor and I asked him how he trained the state servants acting as executioners of all people sentenced to death in Texas. I never got an answer. And I forgot to ask about the gutters.
Thank you for another excellent stupid answer.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 12, 2017, 10:57:40 AM
We deserve to know the entire truth. Do you disagree?
Sez who?  What makes you so special that you should know the entire truth?
Why do you always ask stupid questions?
Because you're so good at giving stupid answers.
Well, topic is if the hurricane Harvey was created not by nature as expectd but by humans (a CT!), and I thought Harvey looked pretty natural and added, if gutters had been fitted, Houston would not have been flooded. Plenty stupid guttersnipes then thought that gutters only collect rain water from roofs and forgot that gutters, i.e. channels, are also installed around houses and roads to evacuate rain water away from them to inhabited areas, e.g. the sea.

And it seems local building regulations in Texas do not require gutters.

So you can only blame the local government. I remember when GWB was governor and I asked him how he trained the state servants acting as executioners of all people sentenced to death in Texas. I never got an answer. And I forgot to ask about the gutters.
Thank you for another excellent stupid answer.

Well, I am sorry if you consider it stupid. Hurricane Harvey was not an engineered storm, IMO, but the flooding of Houston was caused by lack of civil engineering regulations, e.g. gutters not fitted to allow rainwater to escape from inhabited areas.

To prevent another flooding incident Houston really have to fit a proper drainage system, incl. gutters.

Hurricane Harvey being an engineered storm is just a stupid conspiracy theory of flat earthers like you.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 12, 2017, 11:44:20 AM
Heiwa has probably forgotten everything that was explained to him by now.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 12, 2017, 11:58:28 AM
Well, I am sorry if you consider it stupid. Hurricane Harvey was not an engineered storm...
Nope, that isn't what I was talking about.

... IMO, but the flooding of Houston was caused by lack of civil engineering regulations, e.g. gutters not fitted to allow rainwater to escape from inhabited areas.
This is the stupid part that I was talking about.

To prevent another flooding incident Houston really have to fit a proper drainage system, incl. gutters.
Maybe Houston just couldn't afford to install sufficient drainage for a flood event that's only supposed to hit once every thousand years or so.

Hurricane Harvey being an engineered storm is just a stupid conspiracy theory of flat earthers like you.
If you think that I'm a flat earther, then you're even more stupid than I thought.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 12, 2017, 01:24:26 PM

... IMO, but the flooding of Houston was caused by lack of civil engineering regulations, e.g. gutters not fitted to allow rainwater to escape from inhabited areas.
This is the stupid part that I was talking about.

What is stupid about it?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 12, 2017, 01:51:29 PM

... IMO, but the flooding of Houston was caused by lack of civil engineering regulations, e.g. gutters not fitted to allow rainwater to escape from inhabited areas.
This is the stupid part that I was talking about.

What is stupid about it?
The part where you think that gutters could keep up with more than a meter of rain over 4 days.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 12, 2017, 06:45:00 PM

... IMO, but the flooding of Houston was caused by lack of civil engineering regulations, e.g. gutters not fitted to allow rainwater to escape from inhabited areas.
This is the stupid part that I was talking about.

What is stupid about it?
The part where you think that gutters could keep up with more than a meter of rain over 4 days.

If the gutters were designed to remove a feet of rain per day, then there would have been no flooding of inhabited areas.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 12, 2017, 07:24:06 PM

... IMO, but the flooding of Houston was caused by lack of civil engineering regulations, e.g. gutters not fitted to allow rainwater to escape from inhabited areas.
This is the stupid part that I was talking about.

What is stupid about it?
The part where you think that gutters could keep up with more than a meter of rain over 4 days.

If the gutters were designed to remove a feet of rain per day, then there would have been no flooding of inhabited areas.
Have you ever tried to design a drainage system that can handle a foot of water a day for several days in a row for a city the size of Houston?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 13, 2017, 05:04:24 AM

... IMO, but the flooding of Houston was caused by lack of civil engineering regulations, e.g. gutters not fitted to allow rainwater to escape from inhabited areas.
This is the stupid part that I was talking about.

What is stupid about it?
The part where you think that gutters could keep up with more than a meter of rain over 4 days.

If the gutters were designed to remove a feet of rain per day, then there would have been no flooding of inhabited areas.
Have you ever tried to design a drainage system that can handle a foot of water a day for several days in a row for a city the size of Houston?
No, you should know that my biz is safety at sea - http://heiwaco.com . Safety on land is not my biz. But whereever there is water you have to control it. But not at Houston, Texas, USA. They forgot to install gutters.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Noblerabbit on September 13, 2017, 05:16:15 AM

... IMO, but the flooding of Houston was caused by lack of civil engineering regulations, e.g. gutters not fitted to allow rainwater to escape from inhabited areas.
This is the stupid part that I was talking about.

What is stupid about it?
The part where you think that gutters could keep up with more than a meter of rain over 4 days.

If the gutters were designed to remove a feet of rain per day, then there would have been no flooding of inhabited areas.
Have you ever tried to design a drainage system that can handle a foot of water a day for several days in a row for a city the size of Houston?
No, you should know that my biz is safety at sea - http://heiwaco.com . Safety on land is not my biz. But whereever there is water you have to control it. But not at Houston, Texas, USA. They forgot to install gutters.

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 13, 2017, 05:49:12 AM

... IMO, but the flooding of Houston was caused by lack of civil engineering regulations, e.g. gutters not fitted to allow rainwater to escape from inhabited areas.
This is the stupid part that I was talking about.

What is stupid about it?
The part where you think that gutters could keep up with more than a meter of rain over 4 days.

If the gutters were designed to remove a feet of rain per day, then there would have been no flooding of inhabited areas.
Have you ever tried to design a drainage system that can handle a foot of water a day for several days in a row for a city the size of Houston?
No, you should know that my biz is safety at sea - http://heiwaco.com .
Well, obviously you aren't very good at your job because ships still sink.

Safety on land is not my biz.
Then why do you feel qualified to comment on it?

But whereever there is water you have to control it. But not at Houston, Texas, USA. They forgot to install gutters.
Have you been to Houston to inspect their gutters?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Noblerabbit on September 13, 2017, 05:51:25 AM

... IMO, but the flooding of Houston was caused by lack of civil engineering regulations, e.g. gutters not fitted to allow rainwater to escape from inhabited areas.
This is the stupid part that I was talking about.

What is stupid about it?
The part where you think that gutters could keep up with more than a meter of rain over 4 days.

If the gutters were designed to remove a feet of rain per day, then there would have been no flooding of inhabited areas.
Have you ever tried to design a drainage system that can handle a foot of water a day for several days in a row for a city the size of Houston?
No, you should know that my biz is safety at sea - http://heiwaco.com .
Well, obviously you aren't very good at your job because ships still sink.

Well that's like saying there aren't good aviation engineers because sometimes planes crash.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 13, 2017, 06:33:13 AM

... IMO, but the flooding of Houston was caused by lack of civil engineering regulations, e.g. gutters not fitted to allow rainwater to escape from inhabited areas.
This is the stupid part that I was talking about.

What is stupid about it?
The part where you think that gutters could keep up with more than a meter of rain over 4 days.

If the gutters were designed to remove a feet of rain per day, then there would have been no flooding of inhabited areas.
Have you ever tried to design a drainage system that can handle a foot of water a day for several days in a row for a city the size of Houston?
No, you should know that my biz is safety at sea - http://heiwaco.com .
Well, obviously you aren't very good at your job because ships still sink.

Well that's like saying there aren't good aviation engineers because sometimes planes crash.
Or like saying that Houston civil engineers aren't very good because they didn't install enough gutters for a 1000 year flood event.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Noblerabbit on September 13, 2017, 06:44:55 AM
Yeah that's why I posted the captain hindsight video.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 13, 2017, 07:48:19 AM
Well, it seems Texas has no rules to prevent flooding of areas of new habitation. You can build wherever you like and gutters are not really required anywhere, as the place is mostly a desert anyway. It is a free country and people are stupid. So when it rains and great, newly inhabitated areas with cheap housings are flooded due to lack of drainage systems, it is a surprise, blah, blah, blah. 1000 years storms. LOL! And GWB was governor of the place for many years and executed 100's of people to keep the order. It explains it all.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 13, 2017, 08:46:19 AM
Well, it seems Texas has no rules to prevent flooding of areas of new habitation. You can build wherever you like and gutters are not really required anywhere, as the place is mostly a desert anyway. It is a free country and people are stupid. So when it rains and great, newly inhabitated areas with cheap housings are flooded due to lack of drainage systems, it is a surprise, blah, blah, blah. 1000 years storms. LOL! And GWB was governor of the place for many years and executed 100's of people to keep the order. It explains it all.
Whet do you get this information because it's wrong. Houston in particular has very stringent regulations about flooding control.

Either you're just making shit up again or its you usual shoddy research.  Which is it?

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 13, 2017, 10:23:48 AM
Well, it seems Texas has no rules to prevent flooding of areas of new habitation. You can build wherever you like and gutters are not really required anywhere, as the place is mostly a desert anyway. It is a free country and people are stupid. So when it rains and great, newly inhabitated areas with cheap housings are flooded due to lack of drainage systems, it is a surprise, blah, blah, blah. 1000 years storms. LOL! And GWB was governor of the place for many years and executed 100's of people to keep the order. It explains it all.
Whet do you get this information because it's wrong. Houston in particular has very stringent regulations about flooding control.

Either you're just making shit up again or its you usual shoddy research.  Which is it?

Mike

It is neither. I just read about it in some European newspapers suggesting all these new Houston subburbs were built in old marschlands disregarding rain drainage systems and the risk of flooding.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 13, 2017, 11:16:15 AM
Well, it seems Texas has no rules to prevent flooding of areas of new habitation.
You can build wherever you like and gutters are not really required anywhere,
as the place is mostly a desert anyway.


It is neither. I just read about it in some European newspapers suggesting all these new Houston subburbs
were built in old marschlands disregarding rain drainage systems and the risk of flooding.


I'm not getting a plane ticket, am I?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 13, 2017, 11:36:03 AM
Well, it seems Texas has no rules to prevent flooding of areas of new habitation. You can build wherever you like and gutters are not really required anywhere, as the place is mostly a desert anyway.

Hmm...  Maybe you should read the FAQ.
Quote from: https://www.hcfcd.org/faqs/
What is a floodplain?

FEMA defines a floodplain as "any land area that is susceptible to being inundated by water from any source." In Harris County, a floodplain is generally defined as an area susceptible to being flooded due to either a channel's capacity being exceeded or due to a tidal storm surge. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

What is meant by the term 1% (100-year) Floodplain?

Also known as the Base Flood, it is an area of land that has a 1% chance of being inundated by floodwaters from a bayou or creek in a given year. The 1% (100-year) flood event is a regulatory standard used to administer floodplain management programs and the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP), and to set building requirements for new construction. Statistically, the 1% (100-year) flood has a 26% chance of occurring during a 30-year period of time – the length of many mortgages. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

Is construction permitted within the 1% (100-year) floodplain?

Restricted development is permitted in the 1% (100-year) floodplain. The floodplain administrators at each municipality within Harris County are responsible for enforcing floodplain management rules and regulations that govern construction in the floodplain.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 13, 2017, 11:00:51 PM
Well, it seems Texas has no rules to prevent flooding of areas of new habitation. You can build wherever you like and gutters are not really required anywhere, as the place is mostly a desert anyway.

Hmm...  Maybe you should read the FAQ.
Quote from: https://www.hcfcd.org/faqs/
What is a floodplain?

FEMA defines a floodplain as "any land area that is susceptible to being inundated by water from any source." In Harris County, a floodplain is generally defined as an area susceptible to being flooded due to either a channel's capacity being exceeded or due to a tidal storm surge. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

What is meant by the term 1% (100-year) Floodplain?

Also known as the Base Flood, it is an area of land that has a 1% chance of being inundated by floodwaters from a bayou or creek in a given year. The 1% (100-year) flood event is a regulatory standard used to administer floodplain management programs and the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP), and to set building requirements for new construction. Statistically, the 1% (100-year) flood has a 26% chance of occurring during a 30-year period of time – the length of many mortgages. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

Is construction permitted within the 1% (100-year) floodplain?

Restricted development is permitted in the 1% (100-year) floodplain. The floodplain administrators at each municipality within Harris County are responsible for enforcing floodplain management rules and regulations that govern construction in the floodplain.

Thanks, so restricted development is permitted in the 1% floodplain, if your mortage is <30 years, but that development was destroyed at Houston due to lack of gutter channels a few years after construction. Yes, FEMA is a joke. Just look at its top brass.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 14, 2017, 07:35:29 AM
Well, it seems Texas has no rules to prevent flooding of areas of new habitation. You can build wherever you like and gutters are not really required anywhere, as the place is mostly a desert anyway.

Hmm...  Maybe you should read the FAQ.
Quote from: https://www.hcfcd.org/faqs/
What is a floodplain?

FEMA defines a floodplain as "any land area that is susceptible to being inundated by water from any source." In Harris County, a floodplain is generally defined as an area susceptible to being flooded due to either a channel's capacity being exceeded or due to a tidal storm surge. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

What is meant by the term 1% (100-year) Floodplain?

Also known as the Base Flood, it is an area of land that has a 1% chance of being inundated by floodwaters from a bayou or creek in a given year. The 1% (100-year) flood event is a regulatory standard used to administer floodplain management programs and the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP), and to set building requirements for new construction. Statistically, the 1% (100-year) flood has a 26% chance of occurring during a 30-year period of time – the length of many mortgages. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

Is construction permitted within the 1% (100-year) floodplain?

Restricted development is permitted in the 1% (100-year) floodplain. The floodplain administrators at each municipality within Harris County are responsible for enforcing floodplain management rules and regulations that govern construction in the floodplain.

Thanks, so restricted development is permitted in the 1% floodplain, if your mortage is <30 years, but that development was destroyed at Houston due to lack of gutter channels a few years after construction. Yes, FEMA is a joke. Just look at its top brass.

You are just plain lying again. You can't make the claim that gutters have anything to do with it.  You don't the slightest clue what the total capacity of those gutters you keep talking about.

You show us a single example of a major coastal city anywhere in the world that could handle 1.25 meters of rain in four days. Let me help you...you can't so stop making shit up and do some real research.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: sokarul on September 14, 2017, 07:48:10 AM
The storm surge also played a major part in the flooding. I don't really see any mention of that.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 14, 2017, 08:00:36 AM
Well, it seems Texas has no rules to prevent flooding of areas of new habitation. You can build wherever you like and gutters are not really required anywhere, as the place is mostly a desert anyway.

Hmm...  Maybe you should read the FAQ.
Quote from: https://www.hcfcd.org/faqs/
What is a floodplain?

FEMA defines a floodplain as "any land area that is susceptible to being inundated by water from any source." In Harris County, a floodplain is generally defined as an area susceptible to being flooded due to either a channel's capacity being exceeded or due to a tidal storm surge. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

What is meant by the term 1% (100-year) Floodplain?

Also known as the Base Flood, it is an area of land that has a 1% chance of being inundated by floodwaters from a bayou or creek in a given year. The 1% (100-year) flood event is a regulatory standard used to administer floodplain management programs and the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP), and to set building requirements for new construction. Statistically, the 1% (100-year) flood has a 26% chance of occurring during a 30-year period of time – the length of many mortgages. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

Is construction permitted within the 1% (100-year) floodplain?

Restricted development is permitted in the 1% (100-year) floodplain. The floodplain administrators at each municipality within Harris County are responsible for enforcing floodplain management rules and regulations that govern construction in the floodplain.

Thanks, so restricted development is permitted in the 1% floodplain, if your mortage is <30 years, but that development was destroyed at Houston due to lack of gutter channels a few years after construction. Yes, FEMA is a joke. Just look at its top brass.

You are just plain lying again. You can't make the claim that gutters have anything to do with it.  You don't the slightest clue what the total capacity of those gutters you keep talking about.

You show us a single example of a major coastal city anywhere in the world that could handle 1.25 meters of rain in four days. Let me help you...you can't so stop making shit up and do some real research.

Mike

Well, it was just bad luck! A 1% (100-year) flood or rain fall (make your choice) with a 26% chance of occurring during a 30-year period of time just happened, when they had filled the wet lowlands with cheap buildings.

Mike, why do you always support all nonsense you learn somewhere - in the gutters?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 14, 2017, 12:11:20 PM
Not to beat a dead horse here...

But I'm still trying to figure out why a weather photo taken from a satellite is being used to reference anything on a flat earth site that fundamentally doesn't believe in satellites...


So could you please provide another source for your speculation of the Engineering of Hurricane Harvey, because again... Round Earth Technology should not be sourced by Flat Earthers to help their arguments, such as weather radar maps obtained from satellites.



On a side note... this is a fantastic make believe story that couldn't have happened on a flat earth...

http://gothamist.com/2017/09/07/pilot_flight_hurricane_irma_radar.php
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 14, 2017, 12:12:04 PM
Well, it seems Texas has no rules to prevent flooding of areas of new habitation. You can build wherever you like and gutters are not really required anywhere, as the place is mostly a desert anyway.

Hmm...  Maybe you should read the FAQ.
Quote from: https://www.hcfcd.org/faqs/
What is a floodplain?

FEMA defines a floodplain as "any land area that is susceptible to being inundated by water from any source." In Harris County, a floodplain is generally defined as an area susceptible to being flooded due to either a channel's capacity being exceeded or due to a tidal storm surge. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

What is meant by the term 1% (100-year) Floodplain?

Also known as the Base Flood, it is an area of land that has a 1% chance of being inundated by floodwaters from a bayou or creek in a given year. The 1% (100-year) flood event is a regulatory standard used to administer floodplain management programs and the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP), and to set building requirements for new construction. Statistically, the 1% (100-year) flood has a 26% chance of occurring during a 30-year period of time – the length of many mortgages. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

Is construction permitted within the 1% (100-year) floodplain?

Restricted development is permitted in the 1% (100-year) floodplain. The floodplain administrators at each municipality within Harris County are responsible for enforcing floodplain management rules and regulations that govern construction in the floodplain.

Thanks, so restricted development is permitted in the 1% floodplain, if your mortage is <30 years, but that development was destroyed at Houston due to lack of gutter channels a few years after construction. Yes, FEMA is a joke. Just look at its top brass.

You are just plain lying again. You can't make the claim that gutters have anything to do with it.  You don't the slightest clue what the total capacity of those gutters you keep talking about.

You show us a single example of a major coastal city anywhere in the world that could handle 1.25 meters of rain in four days. Let me help you...you can't so stop making shit up and do some real research.

Mike

Well, it was just bad luck! A 1% (100-year) flood or rain fall (make your choice) with a 26% chance of occurring during a 30-year period of time just happened, when they had filled the wet lowlands with cheap buildings.

Mike, why do you always support all nonsense you learn somewhere - in the gutters?
You're the one making shit up with all that nonsense about gutters.

As if gutters would have helped over a meter of rain and a 10+ foot storm surge.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 14, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
how about... had they not developed the land in the first place... any one consider that?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 14, 2017, 12:54:41 PM
Exactly.  Who is stupid enough to build on a hurricane prone flood plain in the first place?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 14, 2017, 01:00:48 PM
but hey... it might be because people had clogged gutters... I mean... I wasn't there...
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 14, 2017, 01:23:48 PM
how about... had they not developed the land in the first place... any one consider that?
Exactly.  Who is stupid enough to build on a hurricane prone flood plain in the first place?
I'm pretty sure when they settled Houston in 1836 nobody had a clue of the environmental consequences. 

Houston is coastal city which is usually where the settling begins...trade and commerce and stuff.

20/20 hindsight is easy.  Knowing what's going to happen before hand...that's hard.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 14, 2017, 03:42:24 PM
how about... had they not developed the land in the first place... any one consider that?
Exactly.  Who is stupid enough to build on a hurricane prone flood plain in the first place?
I'm pretty sure when they settled Houston in 1836 nobody had a clue of the environmental consequences.
So you're saying that people still hadn't figured out by 1836 that coastal cities tend to get hit hardest by storms?  ???

I hope that you realize that I'm just messing with you.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 14, 2017, 06:22:49 PM
how about... had they not developed the land in the first place... any one consider that?
Exactly.  Who is stupid enough to build on a hurricane prone flood plain in the first place?
I'm pretty sure when they settled Houston in 1836 nobody had a clue of the environmental consequences.
So you're saying that people still hadn't figured out by 1836 that coastal cities tend to get hit hardest by storms?  ???

I hope that you realize that I'm just messing with you.
  ;D
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 15, 2017, 09:36:06 AM
Well, it seems Texas has no rules to prevent flooding of areas of new habitation. You can build wherever you like and gutters are not really required anywhere, as the place is mostly a desert anyway.

Hmm...  Maybe you should read the FAQ.
Quote from: https://www.hcfcd.org/faqs/
What is a floodplain?

FEMA defines a floodplain as "any land area that is susceptible to being inundated by water from any source." In Harris County, a floodplain is generally defined as an area susceptible to being flooded due to either a channel's capacity being exceeded or due to a tidal storm surge. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

What is meant by the term 1% (100-year) Floodplain?

Also known as the Base Flood, it is an area of land that has a 1% chance of being inundated by floodwaters from a bayou or creek in a given year. The 1% (100-year) flood event is a regulatory standard used to administer floodplain management programs and the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP), and to set building requirements for new construction. Statistically, the 1% (100-year) flood has a 26% chance of occurring during a 30-year period of time – the length of many mortgages. See the Flash interactive overview for more information.

Is construction permitted within the 1% (100-year) floodplain?

Restricted development is permitted in the 1% (100-year) floodplain. The floodplain administrators at each municipality within Harris County are responsible for enforcing floodplain management rules and regulations that govern construction in the floodplain.

Thanks, so restricted development is permitted in the 1% floodplain, if your mortage is <30 years, but that development was destroyed at Houston due to lack of gutter channels a few years after construction. Yes, FEMA is a joke. Just look at its top brass.

You are just plain lying again. You can't make the claim that gutters have anything to do with it.  You don't the slightest clue what the total capacity of those gutters you keep talking about.

You show us a single example of a major coastal city anywhere in the world that could handle 1.25 meters of rain in four days. Let me help you...you can't so stop making shit up and do some real research.

Mike

Well, it was just bad luck! A 1% (100-year) flood or rain fall (make your choice) with a 26% chance of occurring during a 30-year period of time just happened, when they had filled the wet lowlands with cheap buildings.

Mike, why do you always support all nonsense you learn somewhere - in the gutters?
You're the one making shit up with all that nonsense about gutters.

As if gutters would have helped over a meter of rain and a 10+ foot storm surge.

Mike

Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems. Why do you get so upset? Are you against improving life on earth?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 15, 2017, 11:33:47 AM
Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems.
The only problem with gutters is that they require a sufficient change in elevation in order to provide adequate drainage.  Houston is too flat to provide that sufficient elevation change, so drainage is not adequate for significant rain events.

Quote from: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harvey-why-is-houston-so-prone-to-major-flooding/
Chief weathercaster Lonnie Quinn of CBS Station WCBS in New York City explains why flooding is such a big problem in Houston:

There are a lot of factors at play. For one: Houston's elevation. The city is relatively flat and is barely above sea level. Downtown is only about 50 feet above sea level, and there's only about a four-foot change between the highest and lowest parts of downtown. That means when rain falls, it has nowhere to go, and takes a long time to drain out.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 15, 2017, 12:08:53 PM
AAAAAHAHAHHAHA!!!!


You guys are actually saying that rain gutters would have saved Houston?

I Was just skimming but... Really????


Thank you... I needed that!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 15, 2017, 12:30:15 PM
I could be wrong, but I think that he's confusing gutters with storm drains and Houston for a city with actual terrain.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 15, 2017, 12:32:21 PM
but even if it is storm drains... Unless they are pumping the the water to like... mexico (because that is downhill from Houston)

Storm Drains need a place to drain... and if where they are draining is flooded... then... never mind, i'm on a flat earth site
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 15, 2017, 11:18:40 PM
I could be wrong, but I think that he's confusing gutters with storm drains and Houston for a city with actual terrain.
A gutter is, AFAIAC, a channel dug in the ground fitted around roads, houses, fields etc, to drain off rain water. And it seems it rained on Houston.
I have not mentioned storm drains and I do not know what it is. A storm is violent weather (to avoid at sea) and a drain is a channel, pipe, trench, etc. but a storm drain? Sorry, I cannot help.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 16, 2017, 08:49:26 AM

Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems. Why do you get so upset? Are you against improving life on earth?
Bullshit!  Show me one major coastal city where that's true. 

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 16, 2017, 09:50:57 AM

Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems. Why do you get so upset? Are you against improving life on earth?
Bullshit!  Show me one major coastal city where that's true. 

Mike

Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Schiedam, Vlaardingen - I lived there once and it rained 51 weeks out of 52.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 16, 2017, 09:57:51 AM

Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems. Why do you get so upset? Are you against improving life on earth?
Bullshit!  Show me one major coastal city where that's true. 

Mike

Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Schiedam, Vlaardingen - I lives there once and it rained 51 weeks out of 52.

You do uderstand the difference between this and more than a meter of rain in a few days, right?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 16, 2017, 10:09:30 AM

Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems. Why do you get so upset? Are you against improving life on earth?
Bullshit!  Show me one major coastal city where that's true. 

Mike

Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Schiedam, Vlaardingen - I lives there once and it rained 51 weeks out of 52.

You do uderstand the difference between this and more than a meter of rain in a few days, right?

Of course, I also lived five years at Yokohama, Japan, big port, with five seasons - winter, spring, rain, summer and autumn. Big tyfons/storms/hurricanes blowing in regularly and sometimes an earthquake took place during the rain. Once during such a combination I drove my car into a deep gutter at the road side and got stuck. But friendly Japanese lifted my car back on the road.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 16, 2017, 11:19:01 AM

Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems. Why do you get so upset? Are you against improving life on earth?
Bullshit!  Show me one major coastal city where that's true. 

Mike

Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Schiedam, Vlaardingen - I lives there once and it rained 51 weeks out of 52.

You do uderstand the difference between this and more than a meter of rain in a few days, right?

Of course, I also lived five years at Yokohama, Japan, big port, with five seasons - winter, spring, rain, summer and autumn. Big tyfons/storms/hurricanes blowing in regularly and sometimes an earthquake took place during the rain. Once during such a combination I drove my car into a deep gutter at the road side and got stuck. But friendly Japanese lifted my car back on the road.

Amazing irrelevant story.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 16, 2017, 12:45:27 PM

Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems. Why do you get so upset? Are you against improving life on earth?
Bullshit!  Show me one major coastal city where that's true. 

Mike

Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Schiedam, Vlaardingen - I lives there once and it rained 51 weeks out of 52.

You do uderstand the difference between this and more than a meter of rain in a few days, right?

Of course, I also lived five years at Yokohama, Japan, big port, with five seasons - winter, spring, rain, summer and autumn. Big tyfons/storms/hurricanes blowing in regularly and sometimes an earthquake took place during the rain. Once during such a combination I drove my car into a deep gutter at the road side and got stuck. But friendly Japanese lifted my car back on the road.

Amazing irrelevant story.

No, it rains in Yokohama since 1000's of years ... and Houston should learn from it.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 16, 2017, 02:05:42 PM
No, it rains in Yokohama since 1000's of years ... and Houston should learn from it.
Are you saying that Yokohama never gets flooded?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 16, 2017, 02:15:06 PM

Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems. Why do you get so upset? Are you against improving life on earth?
Bullshit!  Show me one major coastal city where that's true. 

Mike

Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Schiedam, Vlaardingen - I lives there once and it rained 51 weeks out of 52.
Every one of those have annual rainfall of less than a meter.

Obviously I have too spell things out for you since you seem unable to figure out what the question was.

Shoot me a coastal city that can handle a 1.25 meters of rain in four days.  I don't know why I bother because you'll just make up some stupid shut and not actually answer the question.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Twerp on September 16, 2017, 02:31:06 PM

Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems. Why do you get so upset? Are you against improving life on earth?
Bullshit!  Show me one major coastal city where that's true. 

Mike

Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Schiedam, Vlaardingen - I lives there once and it rained 51 weeks out of 52.
Every one of those have annual rainfall of less than a meter.

Obviously I have too spell things out for you since you seem unable to figure out what the question was.

Shoot me a coastal city that can handle a 1.25 meters of rain in four days.  I don't know why I bother because you'll just make up some stupid shut and not actually answer the question.

Mike

You sound like an angry twirp!

It seems Condoleeza Rice and GWB were in the gutter. They'd had too much to drink. No wonder Texas got flooded. Something else about gutters. You can read all about it on my website. I offer a 1M€ Challenge for anyone to prove me wrong. So far, no takers.

How'd I do?

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 16, 2017, 02:39:29 PM

Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems. Why do you get so upset? Are you against improving life on earth?
Bullshit!  Show me one major coastal city where that's true. 

Mike

Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Schiedam, Vlaardingen - I lives there once and it rained 51 weeks out of 52.
Every one of those have annual rainfall of less than a meter.

Obviously I have too spell things out for you since you seem unable to figure out what the question was.

Shoot me a coastal city that can handle a 1.25 meters of rain in four days.  I don't know why I bother because you'll just make up some stupid shut and not actually answer the question.

Mike

You sound like an angry twirp!

It seems Condoleeza Rice and GWB were in the gutter. They'd had too much to drink. No wonder Texas got flooded. Something else about gutters. You can read all about it on my website. I offer a 1M€ Challenge for anyone to prove me wrong. So far, no takers.

How'd I do?

I started to read your post without looking at who posted it, and I thought it was an actual Heiwa post. That's how well you did.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 16, 2017, 03:40:40 PM

Yes, properly installed gutters that could drain off a meter of rain would have saved Houston from all problems. Why do you get so upset? Are you against improving life on earth?
Bullshit!  Show me one major coastal city where that's true. 

Mike

Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Schiedam, Vlaardingen - I lives there once and it rained 51 weeks out of 52.
Every one of those have annual rainfall of less than a meter.

Obviously I have too spell things out for you since you seem unable to figure out what the question was.

Shoot me a coastal city that can handle a 1.25 meters of rain in four days.  I don't know why I bother because you'll just make up some stupid shut and not actually answer the question.

Mike

You sound like an angry twirp!

It seems Condoleeza Rice and GWB were in the gutter. They'd had too much to drink. No wonder Texas got flooded. Something else about gutters. You can read all about it on my website. I offer a 1M€ Challenge for anyone to prove me wrong. So far, no takers.

How'd I do?
Spot on....and bleepin' funny too. ;D
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 16, 2017, 06:00:34 PM
No, it rains in Yokohama since 1000's of years ... and Houston should learn from it.
Are you saying that Yokohama never gets flooded?
Yes, Yokohama is younger than Houston. 1865 it was just a fishing village surrounded by rice fields. Today it is the biggest city in Japan. Bigger than Tokyo (because Tokyo is many towns). Completely destroyed 1923 by an earthquake and May 1945 by US napalm carpet bombings. But no flooding! There are plenty canals to ensure that rainwater flows into Tokyo bay and the Pacific Ocean.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on September 16, 2017, 06:06:06 PM
What happened to their gutters? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/japan-floods-almost-500000-asked-to-evacuate/8684472
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 16, 2017, 06:19:19 PM
What happened to their gutters? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/japan-floods-almost-500000-asked-to-evacuate/8684472

Fukuoka is on Kyushu in the south and got 800 mm of rain one day. Some gutters overflooded. Happens all the time. Japan is prepared for it.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: sokarul on September 17, 2017, 12:09:14 PM
But you just said properly designed gutters don't "overflood".
So you now agree gutters can't be designed for non standard rains. Got it.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 17, 2017, 01:28:42 PM
. . . . . I also lived five years at Yokohama, Japan, big port, with five seasons - winter, spring, rain, summer and autumn.

 ;D
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 17, 2017, 01:43:45 PM
What happened to their gutters? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/japan-floods-almost-500000-asked-to-evacuate/8684472

Fukuoka is on Kyushu in the south and got 800 mm of rain one day. Some gutters overflooded. Happens all the time. Japan is prepared for it.

Exactly. Same with Houston.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 17, 2017, 08:19:16 PM
But you just said properly designed gutters don't "overflood".
So you now agree gutters can't be designed for non standard rains. Got it.

No, I didn't say anything like that.

Gutter channels of any size tend to be blocked by debris and must be regularly cleaned. If not they may overflow.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 18, 2017, 09:39:11 AM
Listen, if the Gutters on their homes would have been designed right... then the streets wouldn't have flooded... DUH!!!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Realdeal on September 18, 2017, 01:14:17 PM
So I looked this up, it looks like it was a bit more of a disaster than, "Some gutters overflooded".  I'm sure those 11 dead folks would agree that it was a bit more than that.

Parts of Fukuoka prefecture were hit by 774 millimetres of rain in nine hours on Wednesday, more than two times the amount of rain that falls in a normal July, NHK said.


Japan floods: 11 missing, 500,000 to evacuate after days of torrential rain in Fukuoka and Oita
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/japan-floods-almost-500000-asked-to-evacuate/8684472 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/japan-floods-almost-500000-asked-to-evacuate/8684472)
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 18, 2017, 01:55:33 PM
What happened to their gutters? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/japan-floods-almost-500000-asked-to-evacuate/8684472

Fukuoka is on Kyushu in the south and got 800 mm of rain one day. Some gutters overflooded. Happens all the time. Japan is prepared for it.
What sort of crack are you smoking?  The flooding in Fukuoka was catastrophic.  Nobody is prepared for that much rain and Japan certainly wasn't.  The reason they weren't ready is because it's not possible to prepare so much rain in such a short time.

You obviously didn't read the article because the damage was huge.  I don't know the final death toll but it was over 30, hundreds of homes destroyed or damaged.  How is this an example of a city that can handle a meter of rain in a very short time.

Come on.  Admit it.  No city is or can be prepared to receive a meter of rain in a very short time.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: DuckDodgers on September 18, 2017, 02:10:45 PM
How long is it going to take for you to realize who/what you are dealing with Micro? There is a single person holding the desenting view. He has all but admitted to well designed drainage systems being inundated with extreme rain systems, yet continues to hold fast that Houston flooded only because of their drainage system and not the sheer amount of rain it received.

Just for fun though; Heiwa, how much rain did Houston receive from Hurricane Harvey? Simple question, should be able to be answered with only a number.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 18, 2017, 05:16:40 PM
What happened to their gutters? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/japan-floods-almost-500000-asked-to-evacuate/8684472

Fukuoka is on Kyushu in the south and got 800 mm of rain one day. Some gutters overflooded. Happens all the time. Japan is prepared for it.
What sort of crack are you smoking?  The flooding in Fukuoka was catastrophic.  Nobody is prepared for that much rain and Japan certainly wasn't.  The reason they weren't ready is because it's not possible to prepare so much rain in such a short time.

You obviously didn't read the article because the damage was huge.  I don't know the final death toll but it was over 30, hundreds of homes destroyed or damaged.  How is this an example of a city that can handle a meter of rain in a very short time.

Come on.  Admit it.  No city is or can be prepared to receive a meter of rain in a very short time.

Mike

Japan is hit by typhoons and rain (and eartquakes, tsunamis, landslides) regularly and are prepared for it. One just passed by. It seems Houston was not prepared for the rain due to lack of gutters and similar or probably because the flooded areas were built, where it wasn't possible to fit gutters, or noone gave a damn. Why do you get so upset? Shouldn't we learn from incidents? If you don't do something, Houston will be flooded again, when it rains.
The storm was not engineered but the flooding was due to human oversight.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 18, 2017, 06:00:20 PM
What happened to their gutters? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/japan-floods-almost-500000-asked-to-evacuate/8684472

Fukuoka is on Kyushu in the south and got 800 mm of rain one day. Some gutters overflooded. Happens all the time. Japan is prepared for it.
What sort of crack are you smoking?  The flooding in Fukuoka was catastrophic.  Nobody is prepared for that much rain and Japan certainly wasn't.  The reason they weren't ready is because it's not possible to prepare so much rain in such a short time.

You obviously didn't read the article because the damage was huge.  I don't know the final death toll but it was over 30, hundreds of homes destroyed or damaged.  How is this an example of a city that can handle a meter of rain in a very short time.

Come on.  Admit it.  No city is or can be prepared to receive a meter of rain in a very short time.

Mike

Japan is hit by typhoons and rain (and eartquakes, tsunamis, landslides) regularly and are prepared for it. One just passed by. It seems Houston was not prepared for the rain due to lack of gutters and similar or probably because the flooded areas were built, where it wasn't possible to fit gutters, or noone gave a damn. Why do you get so upset? Shouldn't we learn from incidents? If you don't do something, Houston will be flooded again, when it rains.
The storm was not engineered but the flooding was due to human oversight.
Wow.  You really are a troll.  I didn't want to admit it but you really are just a piece of shit troll.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 18, 2017, 08:31:22 PM
But you just said properly designed gutters don't "overflood".
So you now agree gutters can't be designed for non standard rains. Got it.

No, I didn't say anything like that.

Gutter channels of any size tend to be blocked by debris and must be regularly cleaned. If not they may overflow.
Dang nab it!!  Who's going to clean those gutter now?  >:(
Quote from: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/japan-floods-almost-500000-asked-to-evacuate/8684472
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/8684528-3x2-700x467.jpg)
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 19, 2017, 01:34:26 AM
What happened to their gutters? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/japan-floods-almost-500000-asked-to-evacuate/8684472

Fukuoka is on Kyushu in the south and got 800 mm of rain one day. Some gutters overflooded. Happens all the time. Japan is prepared for it.
What sort of crack are you smoking?  The flooding in Fukuoka was catastrophic.  Nobody is prepared for that much rain and Japan certainly wasn't.  The reason they weren't ready is because it's not possible to prepare so much rain in such a short time.

You obviously didn't read the article because the damage was huge.  I don't know the final death toll but it was over 30, hundreds of homes destroyed or damaged.  How is this an example of a city that can handle a meter of rain in a very short time.

Come on.  Admit it.  No city is or can be prepared to receive a meter of rain in a very short time.

Mike

Japan is hit by typhoons and rain (and eartquakes, tsunamis, landslides) regularly and are prepared for it. One just passed by. It seems Houston was not prepared for the rain due to lack of gutters and similar or probably because the flooded areas were built, where it wasn't possible to fit gutters, or noone gave a damn. Why do you get so upset? Shouldn't we learn from incidents? If you don't do something, Houston will be flooded again, when it rains.
The storm was not engineered but the flooding was due to human oversight.
Wow.  You really are a troll.  I didn't want to admit it but you really are just a piece of shit troll.
Everyone who has been to Fukuoka like me knows it is both a town at the sea and a district in mountainous Kyushu and that the recent flooding due to rain was caused by serious landslides blocking some rivers that found new trajectories in the nature, i.e. a natural disaster.  It is not comparable to Houston where the Buffalo river simply overflowed and flooded surrounding low- and wetlands, when it rained a lot. No landslides.  It had probably happened before the areas were built up with housing and, it will happen again, when it rains. Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains. I had a house in Saxony once, where river Elbe often spilt over and flooded the surroundings, when it rained. No housing was allowed to be built there.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 19, 2017, 06:06:01 AM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 19, 2017, 09:52:00 AM
If Only the Gutters in Massachusetts weren't clogged...

http://www.businessinsider.com/pictures-of-snow-blizzard-in-new-england-2015-1 (http://www.businessinsider.com/pictures-of-snow-blizzard-in-new-england-2015-1)
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Realdeal on September 19, 2017, 10:13:43 AM
Houston got 49.32 inches which equal 1.253 meters or 1253 mm.  A town east of Houston recorded 51.9 inches which equal 1.318 meters or 1318 mm
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 19, 2017, 06:42:34 PM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 19, 2017, 06:51:33 PM
If only this car had gutters



Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 19, 2017, 08:29:55 PM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
All that means is that the Nile hasn't gotten too much rain since the dam was built.  Maybe if we sent a Cat 5 hurricane or two their way, then it might be a different story.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 19, 2017, 10:35:03 PM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
All that means is that the Nile hasn't gotten too much rain since the dam was built.  Maybe if we sent a Cat 5 hurricane or two their way, then it might be a different story.
You are not very bright. The Nile (Assuan) dam collects the rain water and then allows it to flow at a normal pace  during the complete year = no sudden flooding of Egypt during the rainy season (in Sudan). The water also produces electricity. You sound like a typical illiterate, American twerp.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 20, 2017, 06:18:01 AM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
All that means is that the Nile hasn't gotten too much rain since the dam was built.  Maybe if we sent a Cat 5 hurricane or two their way, then it might be a different story.
You are not very bright. The Nile (Assuan) dam collects the rain water and then allows it to flow at a normal pace  during the complete year = no sudden flooding of Egypt during the rainy season (in Sudan). The water also produces electricity. You sound like a typical illiterate, American twerp.
What makes you think that there is never any flooding up river from the dam?  The Nile is a very long river and you don't hear much about it other than the Egyptian part.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 20, 2017, 08:35:10 AM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
All that means is that the Nile hasn't gotten too much rain since the dam was built.  Maybe if we sent a Cat 5 hurricane or two their way, then it might be a different story.
You are not very bright. The Nile (Assuan) dam collects the rain water and then allows it to flow at a normal pace  during the complete year = no sudden flooding of Egypt during the rainy season (in Sudan). The water also produces electricity. You sound like a typical illiterate, American twerp.
What makes you think that there is never any flooding up river from the dam?  The Nile is a very long river and you don't hear much about it other than the Egyptian part.

Dams are fitted to collect water and to prevent flooding down river from the dam. Up river from the dam you may fit other dams, etc, etc.

My favourite river is Elbe, which is very beautiful in its valley because you cannot build houses there. Housing is built high up on the sides with a view of the river. So it is good for fish (carp) farming and similar. If it is raining a lot, the Saxons simply flood parts of the valley to protect other, built up, inhabited areas.

If Houston had done the same, there would not have been a disaster, when it rained. It seems Texans are not very smart and Houston is run by twerps.

What do you think? 
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Badxtoss on September 20, 2017, 10:19:44 AM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
All that means is that the Nile hasn't gotten too much rain since the dam was built.  Maybe if we sent a Cat 5 hurricane or two their way, then it might be a different story.
You are not very bright. The Nile (Assuan) dam collects the rain water and then allows it to flow at a normal pace  during the complete year = no sudden flooding of Egypt during the rainy season (in Sudan). The water also produces electricity. You sound like a typical illiterate, American twerp.
What makes you think that there is never any flooding up river from the dam?  The Nile is a very long river and you don't hear much about it other than the Egyptian part.

Dams are fitted to collect water and to prevent flooding down river from the dam. Up river from the dam you may fit other dams, etc, etc.

My favourite river is Elbe, which is very beautiful in its valley because you cannot build houses there. Housing is built high up on the sides with a view of the river. So it is good for fish (carp) farming and similar. If it is raining a lot, the Saxons simply flood parts of the valley to protect other, built up, inhabited areas.

If Houston had done the same, there would not have been a disaster, when it rained. It seems Texans are not very smart and Houston is run by twerps.

What do you think?
Personally I think you are an idiot and you prove me right with every post.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 20, 2017, 01:06:26 PM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
All that means is that the Nile hasn't gotten too much rain since the dam was built.  Maybe if we sent a Cat 5 hurricane or two their way, then it might be a different story.
You are not very bright. The Nile (Assuan) dam collects the rain water and then allows it to flow at a normal pace  during the complete year = no sudden flooding of Egypt during the rainy season (in Sudan). The water also produces electricity. You sound like a typical illiterate, American twerp.
What makes you think that there is never any flooding up river from the dam?  The Nile is a very long river and you don't hear much about it other than the Egyptian part.

Dams are fitted to collect water and to prevent flooding down river from the dam. Up river from the dam you may fit other dams, etc, etc.

My favourite river is Elbe, which is very beautiful in its valley because you cannot build houses there. Housing is built high up on the sides with a view of the river. So it is good for fish (carp) farming and similar. If it is raining a lot, the Saxons simply flood parts of the valley to protect other, built up, inhabited areas.

If Houston had done the same, there would not have been a disaster, when it rained. It seems Texans are not very smart and Houston is run by twerps.

What do you think?
I think that you don't understand that Houston is not in a river valley, so your comparison is useless.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 20, 2017, 02:13:06 PM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
All that means is that the Nile hasn't gotten too much rain since the dam was built.  Maybe if we sent a Cat 5 hurricane or two their way, then it might be a different story.
You are not very bright. The Nile (Assuan) dam collects the rain water and then allows it to flow at a normal pace  during the complete year = no sudden flooding of Egypt during the rainy season (in Sudan). The water also produces electricity. You sound like a typical illiterate, American twerp.
What makes you think that there is never any flooding up river from the dam?  The Nile is a very long river and you don't hear much about it other than the Egyptian part.

Dams are fitted to collect water and to prevent flooding down river from the dam. Up river from the dam you may fit other dams, etc, etc.

My favourite river is Elbe, which is very beautiful in its valley because you cannot build houses there. Housing is built high up on the sides with a view of the river. So it is good for fish (carp) farming and similar. If it is raining a lot, the Saxons simply flood parts of the valley to protect other, built up, inhabited areas.

If Houston had done the same, there would not have been a disaster, when it rained. It seems Texans are not very smart and Houston is run by twerps.

What do you think?

How would Houston have dammed back the ocean? New Orleans would be another example of... being unable to Dam back the ocean.... Or Manhattan... Long Island, New Jersey....

BTW... Oroville Dam is my favorite... That thing was about to collapse...
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 20, 2017, 05:11:48 PM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
All that means is that the Nile hasn't gotten too much rain since the dam was built.  Maybe if we sent a Cat 5 hurricane or two their way, then it might be a different story.
You are not very bright. The Nile (Assuan) dam collects the rain water and then allows it to flow at a normal pace  during the complete year = no sudden flooding of Egypt during the rainy season (in Sudan). The water also produces electricity. You sound like a typical illiterate, American twerp.
What makes you think that there is never any flooding up river from the dam?  The Nile is a very long river and you don't hear much about it other than the Egyptian part.

Dams are fitted to collect water and to prevent flooding down river from the dam. Up river from the dam you may fit other dams, etc, etc.

My favourite river is Elbe, which is very beautiful in its valley because you cannot build houses there. Housing is built high up on the sides with a view of the river. So it is good for fish (carp) farming and similar. If it is raining a lot, the Saxons simply flood parts of the valley to protect other, built up, inhabited areas.

If Houston had done the same, there would not have been a disaster, when it rained. It seems Texans are not very smart and Houston is run by twerps.

What do you think?

How would Houston have dammed back the ocean? New Orleans would be another example of... being unable to Dam back the ocean.... Or Manhattan... Long Island, New Jersey....

BTW... Oroville Dam is my favorite... That thing was about to collapse...

Well, you build a sea wall and/or do not allow housing to be built in low- and wetlands. It is quite simple. Only twerps build houses in wetlands.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 20, 2017, 05:51:11 PM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
All that means is that the Nile hasn't gotten too much rain since the dam was built.  Maybe if we sent a Cat 5 hurricane or two their way, then it might be a different story.
You are not very bright. The Nile (Assuan) dam collects the rain water and then allows it to flow at a normal pace  during the complete year = no sudden flooding of Egypt during the rainy season (in Sudan). The water also produces electricity. You sound like a typical illiterate, American twerp.
What makes you think that there is never any flooding up river from the dam?  The Nile is a very long river and you don't hear much about it other than the Egyptian part.

Dams are fitted to collect water and to prevent flooding down river from the dam. Up river from the dam you may fit other dams, etc, etc.

My favourite river is Elbe, which is very beautiful in its valley because you cannot build houses there. Housing is built high up on the sides with a view of the river. So it is good for fish (carp) farming and similar. If it is raining a lot, the Saxons simply flood parts of the valley to protect other, built up, inhabited areas.

If Houston had done the same, there would not have been a disaster, when it rained. It seems Texans are not very smart and Houston is run by twerps.

What do you think?
I think you're an idiot because you don't know there isn't high ground to build on on the Texas coastline.  Apparently you're too stupid to look up the geography to tell how ignorant you comment is.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 21, 2017, 03:10:31 AM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
All that means is that the Nile hasn't gotten too much rain since the dam was built.  Maybe if we sent a Cat 5 hurricane or two their way, then it might be a different story.
You are not very bright. The Nile (Assuan) dam collects the rain water and then allows it to flow at a normal pace  during the complete year = no sudden flooding of Egypt during the rainy season (in Sudan). The water also produces electricity. You sound like a typical illiterate, American twerp.
What makes you think that there is never any flooding up river from the dam?  The Nile is a very long river and you don't hear much about it other than the Egyptian part.

Dams are fitted to collect water and to prevent flooding down river from the dam. Up river from the dam you may fit other dams, etc, etc.

My favourite river is Elbe, which is very beautiful in its valley because you cannot build houses there. Housing is built high up on the sides with a view of the river. So it is good for fish (carp) farming and similar. If it is raining a lot, the Saxons simply flood parts of the valley to protect other, built up, inhabited areas.

If Houston had done the same, there would not have been a disaster, when it rained. It seems Texans are not very smart and Houston is run by twerps.

What do you think?
I think you're an idiot because you don't know there isn't high ground to build on on the Texas coastline.  Apparently you're too stupid to look up the geography to tell how ignorant you comment is.

Well, I lived at Vlaardingen, Netherlands, close to the river Maas 1977/8, which is very low ground. The smart Dutchmen had built a big, high wall/dam along the river side and on top of it were houses. I lived in one with a great view of the Maas. Behind the wall was a polder or what they call it and it was 5 m below sea level. It was old wet land. Everyone living in the polder had to contribute to the maintenance of the sea wall. It seems the Dutch are much smarter than the Texans. Ever heard of Wall Street. The Dutch built it.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 21, 2017, 04:28:00 AM
Only twerps build their houses, where rivers may flood them, when it rains.
Any river will flood if it gets too much rain.

Not the Nile today. For 1000's of years it flooded its valley in Egypt, and everyone was happy, but then a dam was built and ... no more flooding. Only twerps believe that any river will flood if it gets too much rain.
All that means is that the Nile hasn't gotten too much rain since the dam was built.  Maybe if we sent a Cat 5 hurricane or two their way, then it might be a different story.
You are not very bright. The Nile (Assuan) dam collects the rain water and then allows it to flow at a normal pace  during the complete year = no sudden flooding of Egypt during the rainy season (in Sudan). The water also produces electricity. You sound like a typical illiterate, American twerp.
What makes you think that there is never any flooding up river from the dam?  The Nile is a very long river and you don't hear much about it other than the Egyptian part.

Dams are fitted to collect water and to prevent flooding down river from the dam. Up river from the dam you may fit other dams, etc, etc.

My favourite river is Elbe, which is very beautiful in its valley because you cannot build houses there. Housing is built high up on the sides with a view of the river. So it is good for fish (carp) farming and similar. If it is raining a lot, the Saxons simply flood parts of the valley to protect other, built up, inhabited areas.

If Houston had done the same, there would not have been a disaster, when it rained. It seems Texans are not very smart and Houston is run by twerps.

What do you think?
I think you're an idiot because you don't know there isn't high ground to build on on the Texas coastline.  Apparently you're too stupid to look up the geography to tell how ignorant you comment is.

Well, I lived at Vlaardingen, Netherlands, close to the river Maas 1977/8, which is very low ground. The smart Dutchmen had built a big, high wall/dam along the river side and on top of it were houses. I lived in one with a great view of the Maas. Behind the wall was a polder or what they call it and it was 5 m below sea level. It was old wet land. Everyone living in the polder had to contribute to the maintenance of the sea wall. It seems the Dutch are much smarter than the Texans. Ever heard of Wall Street. The Dutch built it.
That's the kinda troll response I expect from you.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 21, 2017, 06:41:02 AM
Ever heard of Wall Street. The Dutch built it.
Yes, they built the wall to defend against Indian attacks, not for flood control.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 21, 2017, 11:24:55 AM
Ever heard of Wall Street. The Dutch built it.
Yes, they built the wall to defend against Indian attacks, not for flood control.
For a change you are right. But the Texans didn't build anything against flooding. By Texan law you could build anywhere. Without any protection.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 21, 2017, 12:13:40 PM
So... I guess we can finally agree, that if the Storm Surge is what flooded these areas, maybe it's not so much the gutters...

Thank you!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 21, 2017, 12:33:07 PM
Ever heard of Wall Street. The Dutch built it.
Yes, they built the wall to defend against Indian attacks, not for flood control.
For a change you are right. But the Texans didn't build anything against flooding. By Texan law you could build anywhere. Without any protection.
And as usual, you are wrong.

Quote from: https://www.hcfcd.org/drainage-network/
With natural streams and manmade systems, Harris County now has about 2,500 miles of channels, significantly higher than the 800 miles of natural channels that originally existed in the county. Almost all of the man-made and improved channels were built prior to establishing the criteria of the 1% (100-year) rainfall.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 21, 2017, 09:42:23 PM
So... I guess we can finally agree, that if the Storm Surge is what flooded these areas, maybe it's not so much the gutters...

Thank you!

Hm, was Houston flooded by sea/salt water pushed in from Bay of Mexico? I thought it was rain/fresh water that couldn't be evacuated by gutters or canals or similar that couldn't be fitted for obvious reasons. The rain water could not be evacuated.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 22, 2017, 01:48:53 AM
So... I guess we can finally agree, that if the Storm Surge is what flooded these areas, maybe it's not so much the gutters...

Thank you!

Hm, was Houston flooded by sea/salt water pushed in from Bay of Mexico? I thought it was rain/fresh water that couldn't be evacuated by gutters or canals or similar that couldn't be fitted for obvious reasons. The rain water could not be evacuated.
It was both numbnuts.  It's apparent you have no clue how a hurricane works.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 22, 2017, 03:10:08 AM
So... I guess we can finally agree, that if the Storm Surge is what flooded these areas, maybe it's not so much the gutters...

Thank you!

Hm, was Houston flooded by sea/salt water pushed in from Bay of Mexico? I thought it was rain/fresh water that couldn't be evacuated by gutters or canals or similar that couldn't be fitted for obvious reasons. The rain water could not be evacuated.
It was both numbnuts.  It's apparent you have no clue how a hurricane works.

OK, it was a combination no Texan could have thought of. Sea/salt water was pushed in from GoM and rain/sweet water dropped from the sky.
But it happens all the time.
Problem is to ensure that you can stop the sea/salt water and the rain/sweet water to flood your place. 
I know you live at NJ, where they have solved all these difficulties since 911. Why don't you move to TX and teach them?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 22, 2017, 04:26:56 AM
So... I guess we can finally agree, that if the Storm Surge is what flooded these areas, maybe it's not so much the gutters...

Thank you!

Hm, was Houston flooded by sea/salt water pushed in from Bay of Mexico? I thought it was rain/fresh water that couldn't be evacuated by gutters or canals or similar that couldn't be fitted for obvious reasons. The rain water could not be evacuated.
It was both numbnuts.  It's apparent you have no clue how a hurricane works.

OK, it was a combination no Texan could have thought of. Sea/salt water was pushed in from GoM and rain/sweet water dropped from the sky.
But it happens all the time.
Problem is to ensure that you can stop the sea/salt water and the rain/sweet water to flood your place. 
I know you live at NJ, where they have solved all these difficulties since 911. Why don't you move to TX and teach them?
You really don’t pay attention.  I grew up in NJ but I currently live in CT...and have for 34 years.

You should do just a little research before you post because Sandy devastated NJ/NY in 2012.  10-12 inches of rain, a 10 ft storm surge, and 80 mph winds caused $2 billion in damage from VA to RI. 

It was even worse in TX.  You combine 50” rainfall totals, 10-12’ storm surges, and 100 mph winds...those are the kind of conditions that are impossible for any flood control system to keep up with.  An marine engineer should be able to understand that.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 22, 2017, 08:20:05 AM
I was binge watching Engineering Disasters that someone had posted up on YouTube...

They made a constant point that when there is a major catastrophe of it is never just one thing that fails... Multiple fail safes fail and then shit hits the FAN...

For instance, they were talking about the Fukushima Japanese Nuclear Power Plan...

One, The Tsunami Protection wall, which was 10 feet tall wasn't high enough for the 13 foot wave... So, the Plant got Flooded... oops

Two.A, The Backup Generators were put in the basement... So they got flooded... oops

Two.B, The Radiation Pools for spent rods weren't being cooled and one of the actual reactors started overheating once the backup batteries died.

Three, The debris field was so shitty, the rescue crew couldn't pass through to provide assistance

Four, the team inside the plant were reporting their progress and issues to Japan HQ, and because of the "There's no problem here" culture of Japan, the people receiving the messages didn't tell the proper people how shitty things were actually getting...

It's been a couple years since I watched it, but the underlying theme... multiple things always go to shit before there is a catastrophe... Houston was multiple things... Not just the rain, not just the storm surge, not just the wind, not just the canals and drainage, not just the urban expansion, not just the high pressure system north of the hurricane that prevented it from moving... but all of it together (and some)....


https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/29/16216568/hurricane-havery-houston-flooding-experts

Four, when the responders  that were inside the plant just Soaken up the radiation
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 23, 2017, 12:39:46 AM
I was binge watching Engineering Disasters that someone had posted up on YouTube...

They made a constant point that when there is a major catastrophe of it is never just one thing that fails... Multiple fail safes fail and then shit hits the FAN...

For instance, they were talking about the Fukushima Japanese Nuclear Power Plan...

One, The Tsunami Protection wall, which was 10 feet tall wasn't high enough for the 13 foot wave... So, the Plant got Flooded... oops

Two.A, The Backup Generators were put in the basement... So they got flooded... oops

Two.B, The Radiation Pools for spent rods weren't being cooled and one of the actual reactors started overheating once the backup batteries died.

Three, The debris field was so shitty, the rescue crew couldn't pass through to provide assistance

Four, the team inside the plant were reporting their progress and issues to Japan HQ, and because of the "There's no problem here" culture of Japan, the people receiving the messages didn't tell the proper people how shitty things were actually getting...

It's been a couple years since I watched it, but the underlying theme... multiple things always go to shit before there is a catastrophe... Houston was multiple things... Not just the rain, not just the storm surge, not just the wind, not just the canals and drainage, not just the urban expansion, not just the high pressure system north of the hurricane that prevented it from moving... but all of it together (and some)....


https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/29/16216568/hurricane-havery-houston-flooding-experts

Four, when the responders  that were inside the plant just Soaken up the radiation
About 15 000 persons died due to the Tohoku earthquate out at sea that created a big tsunami flooding the coastal cities of the Fukushima prefecture 2011. All nuclear power plants were shut down incl. Fukushima #1 plant but, as we know, the emergency generators failed due to the tsunami and the #1 plant overheated and radioactive gasses and dust - radiation - were released. Good news are that nobody has died due to this and, IMO, it is quite safe to return to Fukushima today - http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm#RAD . But media cannot really report it.

The badly informed Japanese fear radioactive radiation and think it is some sort of contagious illness. Luckily the local mafia - yakusa - cleaned up the place but didn't cure anyone.  What a typical, Japanese mess.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Badxtoss on September 23, 2017, 12:56:28 AM
I was binge watching Engineering Disasters that someone had posted up on YouTube...

They made a constant point that when there is a major catastrophe of it is never just one thing that fails... Multiple fail safes fail and then shit hits the FAN...

For instance, they were talking about the Fukushima Japanese Nuclear Power Plan...

One, The Tsunami Protection wall, which was 10 feet tall wasn't high enough for the 13 foot wave... So, the Plant got Flooded... oops

Two.A, The Backup Generators were put in the basement... So they got flooded... oops

Two.B, The Radiation Pools for spent rods weren't being cooled and one of the actual reactors started overheating once the backup batteries died.

Three, The debris field was so shitty, the rescue crew couldn't pass through to provide assistance

Four, the team inside the plant were reporting their progress and issues to Japan HQ, and because of the "There's no problem here" culture of Japan, the people receiving the messages didn't tell the proper people how shitty things were actually getting...

It's been a couple years since I watched it, but the underlying theme... multiple things always go to shit before there is a catastrophe... Houston was multiple things... Not just the rain, not just the storm surge, not just the wind, not just the canals and drainage, not just the urban expansion, not just the high pressure system north of the hurricane that prevented it from moving... but all of it together (and some)....


https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/29/16216568/hurricane-havery-houston-flooding-experts

Four, when the responders  that were inside the plant just Soaken up the radiation
About 15 000 persons died due to the Tohoku earthquate out at sea that created a big tsunami flooding the coastal cities of the Fukushima prefecture 2011. All nuclear power plants were shut down incl. Fukushima #1 plant but, as we know, the emergency generators failed due to the tsunami and the #1 plant overheated and radioactive gasses and dust - radiation - were released. Good news are that nobody has died due to this and, IMO, it is quite safe to return to Fukushima today - http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm#RAD . But media cannot really report it.

The badly informed Japanese fear radioactive radiation and think it is some sort of contagious illness. Luckily the local mafia - yakusa - cleaned up the place but didn't cure anyone.  What a typical, Japanese mess.
Where did you study nuclear physics?  If you say you didn't then your opinion is as worthless as you are.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 23, 2017, 01:15:50 AM
I was binge watching Engineering Disasters that someone had posted up on YouTube...

They made a constant point that when there is a major catastrophe of it is never just one thing that fails... Multiple fail safes fail and then shit hits the FAN...

For instance, they were talking about the Fukushima Japanese Nuclear Power Plan...

One, The Tsunami Protection wall, which was 10 feet tall wasn't high enough for the 13 foot wave... So, the Plant got Flooded... oops

Two.A, The Backup Generators were put in the basement... So they got flooded... oops

Two.B, The Radiation Pools for spent rods weren't being cooled and one of the actual reactors started overheating once the backup batteries died.

Three, The debris field was so shitty, the rescue crew couldn't pass through to provide assistance

Four, the team inside the plant were reporting their progress and issues to Japan HQ, and because of the "There's no problem here" culture of Japan, the people receiving the messages didn't tell the proper people how shitty things were actually getting...

It's been a couple years since I watched it, but the underlying theme... multiple things always go to shit before there is a catastrophe... Houston was multiple things... Not just the rain, not just the storm surge, not just the wind, not just the canals and drainage, not just the urban expansion, not just the high pressure system north of the hurricane that prevented it from moving... but all of it together (and some)....


https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/29/16216568/hurricane-havery-houston-flooding-experts

Four, when the responders  that were inside the plant just Soaken up the radiation
About 15 000 persons died due to the Tohoku earthquate out at sea that created a big tsunami flooding the coastal cities of the Fukushima prefecture 2011. All nuclear power plants were shut down incl. Fukushima #1 plant but, as we know, the emergency generators failed due to the tsunami and the #1 plant overheated and radioactive gasses and dust - radiation - were released. Good news are that nobody has died due to this and, IMO, it is quite safe to return to Fukushima today - http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm#RAD . But media cannot really report it.

The badly informed Japanese fear radioactive radiation and think it is some sort of contagious illness. Luckily the local mafia - yakusa - cleaned up the place but didn't cure anyone.  What a typical, Japanese mess.
Where did you study nuclear physics?  If you say you didn't then your opinion is as worthless as you are.

You really have to study the link I provided. Have you ever been in Japan? I have worked there almost five years and then visited it many times. I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering. But the principles are the same. You just have to get started.
So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret! It has to do with 'explosive fission'! And what is it? Aha, it is another military secret!

It took me many years to finally understand that the military secrets of a-bombs and explosive fission are just pseudoscience and propaganda. Only twerps believe these military secrets.


Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Badxtoss on September 23, 2017, 02:15:11 AM
I was binge watching Engineering Disasters that someone had posted up on YouTube...

They made a constant point that when there is a major catastrophe of it is never just one thing that fails... Multiple fail safes fail and then shit hits the FAN...

For instance, they were talking about the Fukushima Japanese Nuclear Power Plan...

One, The Tsunami Protection wall, which was 10 feet tall wasn't high enough for the 13 foot wave... So, the Plant got Flooded... oops

Two.A, The Backup Generators were put in the basement... So they got flooded... oops

Two.B, The Radiation Pools for spent rods weren't being cooled and one of the actual reactors started overheating once the backup batteries died.

Three, The debris field was so shitty, the rescue crew couldn't pass through to provide assistance

Four, the team inside the plant were reporting their progress and issues to Japan HQ, and because of the "There's no problem here" culture of Japan, the people receiving the messages didn't tell the proper people how shitty things were actually getting...

It's been a couple years since I watched it, but the underlying theme... multiple things always go to shit before there is a catastrophe... Houston was multiple things... Not just the rain, not just the storm surge, not just the wind, not just the canals and drainage, not just the urban expansion, not just the high pressure system north of the hurricane that prevented it from moving... but all of it together (and some)....


https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/29/16216568/hurricane-havery-houston-flooding-experts

Four, when the responders  that were inside the plant just Soaken up the radiation
About 15 000 persons died due to the Tohoku earthquate out at sea that created a big tsunami flooding the coastal cities of the Fukushima prefecture 2011. All nuclear power plants were shut down incl. Fukushima #1 plant but, as we know, the emergency generators failed due to the tsunami and the #1 plant overheated and radioactive gasses and dust - radiation - were released. Good news are that nobody has died due to this and, IMO, it is quite safe to return to Fukushima today - http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm#RAD . But media cannot really report it.

The badly informed Japanese fear radioactive radiation and think it is some sort of contagious illness. Luckily the local mafia - yakusa - cleaned up the place but didn't cure anyone.  What a typical, Japanese mess.
Where did you study nuclear physics?  If you say you didn't then your opinion is as worthless as you are.

You really have to study the link I provided. Have you ever been in Japan? I have worked there almost five years and then visited it many times. I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering. But the principles are the same. You just have to get started.
So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret! It has to do with 'explosive fission'! And what is it? Aha, it is another military secret!

It took me many years to finally understand that the military secrets of a-bombs and explosive fission are just pseudoscience and propaganda. Only twerps believe these military secrets.
So that's a no to having studied nuclear physics.  So your opinion is as worthless as you are.
Run along now loser.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 23, 2017, 02:32:55 AM
I was binge watching Engineering Disasters that someone had posted up on YouTube...

They made a constant point that when there is a major catastrophe of it is never just one thing that fails... Multiple fail safes fail and then shit hits the FAN...

For instance, they were talking about the Fukushima Japanese Nuclear Power Plan...

One, The Tsunami Protection wall, which was 10 feet tall wasn't high enough for the 13 foot wave... So, the Plant got Flooded... oops

Two.A, The Backup Generators were put in the basement... So they got flooded... oops

Two.B, The Radiation Pools for spent rods weren't being cooled and one of the actual reactors started overheating once the backup batteries died.

Three, The debris field was so shitty, the rescue crew couldn't pass through to provide assistance

Four, the team inside the plant were reporting their progress and issues to Japan HQ, and because of the "There's no problem here" culture of Japan, the people receiving the messages didn't tell the proper people how shitty things were actually getting...

It's been a couple years since I watched it, but the underlying theme... multiple things always go to shit before there is a catastrophe... Houston was multiple things... Not just the rain, not just the storm surge, not just the wind, not just the canals and drainage, not just the urban expansion, not just the high pressure system north of the hurricane that prevented it from moving... but all of it together (and some)....


https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/29/16216568/hurricane-havery-houston-flooding-experts

Four, when the responders  that were inside the plant just Soaken up the radiation
About 15 000 persons died due to the Tohoku earthquate out at sea that created a big tsunami flooding the coastal cities of the Fukushima prefecture 2011. All nuclear power plants were shut down incl. Fukushima #1 plant but, as we know, the emergency generators failed due to the tsunami and the #1 plant overheated and radioactive gasses and dust - radiation - were released. Good news are that nobody has died due to this and, IMO, it is quite safe to return to Fukushima today - http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm#RAD . But media cannot really report it.

The badly informed Japanese fear radioactive radiation and think it is some sort of contagious illness. Luckily the local mafia - yakusa - cleaned up the place but didn't cure anyone.  What a typical, Japanese mess.
Where did you study nuclear physics?  If you say you didn't then your opinion is as worthless as you are.

You really have to study the link I provided. Have you ever been in Japan? I have worked there almost five years and then visited it many times. I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering. But the principles are the same. You just have to get started.
So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret! It has to do with 'explosive fission'! And what is it? Aha, it is another military secret!

It took me many years to finally understand that the military secrets of a-bombs and explosive fission are just pseudoscience and propaganda. Only twerps believe these military secrets.
So that's a no to having studied nuclear physics.  So your opinion is as worthless as you are.
Run along now loser.
No, I just carry on as usual. Actually my nuclear physics web site http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm is extremly popular today. You sound like a supporter of this little fat Korean klown with his funny haircut and wrinkled suit sending fireworks into the sky. I wonder why another klown with a trumpet has a similar hair style.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 23, 2017, 07:56:32 AM
I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering.
I'm guessing that you haven't studied medicine either.


So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret!
Of course it's a military secret.  Is that really the sort of information that you want the general public to have?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 23, 2017, 09:50:46 AM
I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering.
I'm guessing that you haven't studied medicine either.


So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret!
Of course it's a military secret.  Is that really the sort of information that you want the general public to have?

Are you asking me stupid questions again? The military secret is just pseudoscientific propaganda.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Badxtoss on September 23, 2017, 06:09:09 PM
The fact is this moron is the perfect example of the Dunning Kruger effect.  He is literally too stupid to realize how stupid he is.
I'm sure there are other psychological and possibly neurological disorders as well.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 23, 2017, 07:27:25 PM
I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering.
I'm guessing that you haven't studied medicine either.


So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret!
Of course it's a military secret.  Is that really the sort of information that you want the general public to have?

Are you asking me stupid questions again? The military secret is just pseudoscientific propaganda.
Are you suggesting that if nuclear bombs were real, then detailed instructions for setting one off should be public knowledge?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 23, 2017, 07:57:44 PM
The fact is this moron is the perfect example of the Dunning Kruger effect.  He is literally too stupid to realize how stupid he is.
I'm sure there are other psychological and possibly neurological disorders as well.
He can't have any neurological disorders. He cured himself of very bad brain damage...

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=71351.msg1933278#msg1933278

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 23, 2017, 09:46:41 PM
I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering.
I'm guessing that you haven't studied medicine either.


So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret!
Of course it's a military secret.  Is that really the sort of information that you want the general public to have?

Are you asking me stupid questions again? The military secret is just pseudoscientific propaganda.
Are you suggesting that if nuclear bombs were real, then detailed instructions for setting one off should be public knowledge?
No, at http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm I provide solid evidence that all existing a-bombs do not work and why. Aren't you happy about it?
Or are you a supporter of Rocket Man in Pyongjang? You sound like a terrorist.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Twerp on September 24, 2017, 04:15:12 AM
I provide proof that ships don't sink at imfullofshit.com. Any news of ships that sank are lies. The Titanic? Pure propaganda.

Don't disagree with me! Aren't you happy about it? Or do you like for ships to sink and people to die? Surely not.

Ships don't sink. Rejoice!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 24, 2017, 08:22:13 AM
I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering.
I'm guessing that you haven't studied medicine either.


So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret!
Of course it's a military secret.  Is that really the sort of information that you want the general public to have?

Are you asking me stupid questions again? The military secret is just pseudoscientific propaganda.
Are you suggesting that if nuclear bombs were real, then detailed instructions for setting one off should be public knowledge?
No, at http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm I provide solid evidence that all existing a-bombs do not work and why. Aren't you happy about it?
Or are you a supporter of Rocket Man in Pyongjang? You sound like a terrorist.
And you really suck at hypothetical questions.

I asked "IF" they were real, would you want detailed instructions on how to set them off to be public knowledge?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 24, 2017, 08:34:05 AM
I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering.
I'm guessing that you haven't studied medicine either.


So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret!
Of course it's a military secret.  Is that really the sort of information that you want the general public to have?

Are you asking me stupid questions again? The military secret is just pseudoscientific propaganda.
Are you suggesting that if nuclear bombs were real, then detailed instructions for setting one off should be public knowledge?
No, at http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm I provide solid evidence that all existing a-bombs do not work and why. Aren't you happy about it?
Or are you a supporter of Rocket Man in Pyongjang? You sound like a terrorist.
And you really suck at hypothetical questions.

I asked "IF" they were real, would you want detailed instructions on how to set them off to be public knowledge?

You sound as "IF" you are a supporter of Rocket Man ... and his friend the Tower Man.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 24, 2017, 01:14:11 PM
I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering.
I'm guessing that you haven't studied medicine either.


So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret!
Of course it's a military secret.  Is that really the sort of information that you want the general public to have?

Are you asking me stupid questions again? The military secret is just pseudoscientific propaganda.
Are you suggesting that if nuclear bombs were real, then detailed instructions for setting one off should be public knowledge?
No, at http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm I provide solid evidence that all existing a-bombs do not work and why. Aren't you happy about it?
Or are you a supporter of Rocket Man in Pyongjang? You sound like a terrorist.
Your website does not provide solid evidence for anything. 

We've already established that you are wrong on fast fission which invalidates you claims.  You have even admitted it on this forum.  And yet, you refuse to correct your website. 

We've already established that you are wrong about the biological effects of ionizing radiation.  Even the links you posted here in support of website contradicted your claims.  And yet again, you refuse to correct your website. 

There is nothing to challenge.  Your website is full of unsubstantiated claims based on shoddy research.  It’s clear you have no real understanding of the physics involved.  The proof is in every university physics text book on the planet.  Further proof is nuclear power relies on the exact same physics.  This is a concept that is completely lost on you which is further proof you your shoddy research.

You have no fucking right to claim anyone else as being wrong when you can’t even get the basic physics behind nuclear reactions and ionizing radiation correct.  You’re just a crack pot conspiracy theorist who can’t even be bothered to do proper research.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 24, 2017, 01:37:40 PM
I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering.
I'm guessing that you haven't studied medicine either.


So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret!
Of course it's a military secret.  Is that really the sort of information that you want the general public to have?

Are you asking me stupid questions again? The military secret is just pseudoscientific propaganda.
Are you suggesting that if nuclear bombs were real, then detailed instructions for setting one off should be public knowledge?
No, at http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm I provide solid evidence that all existing a-bombs do not work and why. Aren't you happy about it?
Or are you a supporter of Rocket Man in Pyongjang? You sound like a terrorist.
Your website does not provide solid evidence for anything. 


Just copy/paste one example of your view. I provide solid evidence for all my findings.

Why would I do anything else?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 24, 2017, 01:49:04 PM
I haven't studied nuclear physics. I have studied mechanical engineering.
I'm guessing that you haven't studied medicine either.


So how do you start a nuclear bomb so it blows up and vaporizes people? Aha, it is a military secret!
Of course it's a military secret.  Is that really the sort of information that you want the general public to have?

Are you asking me stupid questions again? The military secret is just pseudoscientific propaganda.
Are you suggesting that if nuclear bombs were real, then detailed instructions for setting one off should be public knowledge?
No, at http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm I provide solid evidence that all existing a-bombs do not work and why. Aren't you happy about it?
Or are you a supporter of Rocket Man in Pyongjang? You sound like a terrorist.
Your website does not provide solid evidence for anything. 


Just copy/paste one example of your view. I provide solid evidence for all my findings.

Why would I do anything else?
I like how you've removed the rest of my post that proves the statement you've quoted.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 24, 2017, 02:20:45 PM
Your website does not provide solid evidence for anything. 


Just copy/paste one example of your view.
He's saying that you don't provide any evidence on your site.  How is he supposed to copy/paste something that doesn't exist?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 24, 2017, 02:38:43 PM
Your website does not provide solid evidence for anything. 


Just copy/paste one example of your view.
He's saying that you don't provide any evidence on your site.  How is he supposed to copy/paste something that doesn't exist?
He'll just ignore it rather than face his own contradictory comments.  He's been proven wrong and he can't admit it.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 24, 2017, 11:09:23 PM
Your website does not provide solid evidence for anything. 


Just copy/paste one example of your view.
He's saying that you don't provide any evidence on your site.  How is he supposed to copy/paste something that doesn't exist?
Microbrain says I do not provide solid evidence and you, Majko, says that he says I do not provide any evidence. Actually all evidences and info I provide at http://heiwaco.com are correct.

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 25, 2017, 08:08:11 PM
Okay Heiwa, I have another idea

Would you consider posting one of your coffee pods to me. And then when I receive it, I can link up to you on some video chatting software like FaceTime or the like and we can have a coffee together that way.

Being the 21st century an all, I know this sort of concept and technology could be rather foreign and strange to you old dinosaurs but it's the way of the future. So lets embrace it.

Accepting this would lend some credibility to your authenticity. After all, if you have the money for a coffee pod and postage, then you would most likely have 5 million euros waiting to give away too.

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 25, 2017, 11:28:58 PM
Okay Heiwa, I have another idea

Would you consider posting one of your coffee pods to me. And then when I receive it, I can link up to you on some video chatting software like FaceTime or the like and we can have a coffee together that way.

Being the 21st century an all, I know this sort of concept and technology could be rather foreign and strange to you old dinosaurs but it's the way of the future. So lets embrace it.

Accepting this would lend some credibility to your authenticity. After all, if you have the money for a coffee pod and postage, then you would most likely have 5 million euros waiting to give away too.
What is a coffee pod? Do you mean coffee pot?
And what is wrong with a civilized discussion at this forum?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 26, 2017, 12:07:54 AM
Okay Heiwa, I have another idea

Would you consider posting one of your coffee pods to me. And then when I receive it, I can link up to you on some video chatting software like FaceTime or the like and we can have a coffee together that way.

Being the 21st century an all, I know this sort of concept and technology could be rather foreign and strange to you old dinosaurs but it's the way of the future. So lets embrace it.

Accepting this would lend some credibility to your authenticity. After all, if you have the money for a coffee pod and postage, then you would most likely have 5 million euros waiting to give away too.
What is a coffee pod? Do you mean coffee pot?
And what is wrong with a civilized discussion at this forum?

Those nespresso things you've been flogging off. Post a flavour over and we'll have a face to face talk while we each enjoy one. But not one that has me forking over thousands of dollars for a ticket when you may just be a no show and leave me in a crappy country with nothing else to do (well nothing that could compare to meeting a man with 5 million euros to give away)
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Twerp on September 26, 2017, 12:56:53 AM
I'm just gonna post this a gain 'cause I'm kinda jealous of Heiwa. When he posts stupid shit like this people pay him a lot of attention and go to great lengths to show him how ridiculous he is. So I thought I would try it, and see if I could get some attention too! So far, nothing. So here it is again  ;D:

I provide proof that ships don't sink at imfullofshit.com. Any news of ships that sank are lies. The Titanic? Pure propaganda.

Don't disagree with me! Aren't you happy about it? Or do you like for ships to sink and people to die? Surely not.

Ships don't sink. Rejoice!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 26, 2017, 01:13:54 AM
Okay Heiwa, I have another idea

Would you consider posting one of your coffee pods to me. And then when I receive it, I can link up to you on some video chatting software like FaceTime or the like and we can have a coffee together that way.

Being the 21st century an all, I know this sort of concept and technology could be rather foreign and strange to you old dinosaurs but it's the way of the future. So lets embrace it.

Accepting this would lend some credibility to your authenticity. After all, if you have the money for a coffee pod and postage, then you would most likely have 5 million euros waiting to give away too.
What is a coffee pod? Do you mean coffee pot?
And what is wrong with a civilized discussion at this forum?

Those nespresso things you've been flogging off. Post a flavour over and we'll have a face to face talk while we each enjoy one. But not one that has me forking over thousands of dollars for a ticket when you may just be a no show and leave me in a crappy country with nothing else to do (well nothing that could compare to meeting a man with 5 million euros to give away)

Well, you are always happy to see me at Beausoleil, France. And if you are unhappy about it, you could just visit Monte Carlo, Monaco, another country just two minutes away from my office. Try your luck at the casino? Or Italy 20 minutes away. There they make really good coffee.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 26, 2017, 01:25:00 AM

Well, you are always happy to see me at Beausoleil, France. And if you are unhappy about it, you could just visit Monte Carlo, Monaco, another country just two minutes away from my office. Try your luck at the casino? Or Italy 20 minutes away. There they make really good coffee.

All the same shit, just a different stink

I want my Nespresso!!!!!

SEND ONE TO ME!!!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 26, 2017, 09:52:12 PM
It seems that I was right about the Houston flooding, i.e. all manmade:

1. Flat landscape

Houston sits just under 50 feet above sea level and is among the flattest major metropolitan areas in the U.S. "We have a slope that is less than one foot per mile," says Phil Bedient, who teaches civil and environmental engineering at Rice University. "And because of that, we have very slow draining systems." …

2. Aging infrastructure

"The storm water drainage system is in desperate need of updating," Sam Brody, a professor at Texas A&M, Galveston, told NPR's Morning Edition …

3. Rapid growth without zoning regulations

… Because Houston lacks a zoning code, builders aren't required to use flood mitigation techniques like green areas to absorb rainwater or retention ponds for runoff. According to Brody, "all of that impervious surface makes it very difficult for the water to drain into the soil. Instead, it runs into the bayous and, in this case, into people's homes."…

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/31/547575113/three-reasons-houston-was-a-sitting-duck-for-harvey-flooding

Harvey was Houston's third flood in three years to surpass the "100 year flood" mark. Urban planners and civil engineers say a combination of natural and man-made factors has created a chronic drainage problem that left the city especially vulnerable to Harvey's torrential rains.

So Houston will probably be flooded again in less than a year.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 26, 2017, 10:04:05 PM
ALL man made you say??? Then you go on to quote someone who says

Quote
a combination of natural and man-made factors has created a chronic drainage problem

And you are only talking about stupid 'gutters'. There are far more things needed to do but show me one city that could survive a over a metre of rain over a few days without a problem.

I agree they could probably do with more green space and permeable concrete and the like. But you claiming that no one there has gutters and that would have prevented the problem only demonstrates what a dim-witted old coot you are. The rain would not have come down nicely so that the gutters cold collect it and take it away. It pelted in every direction from a hurricane. It came down, it came sideways, it came up from the ground. WTF could gutters have done to prevent all that damage? Houses were flattened!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 27, 2017, 12:15:26 AM
ALL man made you say??? Then you go on to quote someone who says

Quote
a combination of natural and man-made factors has created a chronic drainage problem

And you are only talking about stupid 'gutters'. There are far more things needed to do but show me one city that could survive a over a metre of rain over a few days without a problem.

I agree they could probably do with more green space and permeable concrete and the like. But you claiming that no one there has gutters and that would have prevented the problem only demonstrates what a dim-witted old coot you are. The rain would not have come down nicely so that the gutters cold collect it and take it away. It pelted in every direction from a hurricane. It came down, it came sideways, it came up from the ground. WTF could gutters have done to prevent all that damage? Houses were flattened!

Gutters are normally fitted at the sides of roads, so that water can drain away to prevent the roads to be flooded. But it seems the Houston gutters could not drain away the water. The gutters filled up ... and the roads were flooded, when it rained. It will apparently happen again, when it rains at Houston. So be prepared. After a few days the water has flowed away and you can use the road again.
And the houses? Just make the basement a little higher so the house is above water, when it rains. There is no such thing like commen sense!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 27, 2017, 12:18:37 AM
You're a genius Heiwa. Why the hell didn't they employ you on the planning committee I just don't know. You could have single handily saved Houston from all this damage and billions of dollars.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on September 27, 2017, 04:16:23 AM
You're a genius Heiwa. Why the hell didn't they employ you on the planning committee I just don't know. You could have single handily saved Houston from all this damage and billions of dollars.
Well...his IQ was 200.  At 200 he would have been one of the smartest people in history. 
 
You would have to be intelligent first.

Mike


But I am. 1964 I was forced to be tested two days by the Swedish Armed Forces selection clowns as a law abiding juvenile for selection of national service armed duty. http://heiwaco.com/cv.htm .  There were these IQ tests where I scored 200+ and then interviews.
They asked: What post in the Forces do you want? Digging holes in the ground to sleep in in the rain 365/365 or having a 1st Class ***** suite in HQ?
With an IQ 200+ I didn't reply to such a stupid question but told them what I wanted. And I got it. And there we are today.
I am a winner.


Of course, he was “badly brain damaged” at the time.   But, since he cured himself of brain damage, he must now be the smartest person in human history...we should all listen to him?  Or Not!

Yes, I have heard about OJ Simpson. But he is not the topic here.

Re me I am a nice, rich, good looking, intelligent, warm, social person. Of course I got brain damaged, when I was small - navy, sea mines, taught to kill people - but I cured myself.  http://heiwaco.com/vk12.htm .

You cured yourself of brain damage?

Yes! And I explain how at http://heiwaco.com/vk12.htm .

It took plenty time because I was very badly brain damaged up until, say 1988. Then it took another 15 years to heel myself.

I think I am fairly well cured today. But it took a lot of time.


Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 27, 2017, 06:41:40 AM
You're a genius Heiwa. Why the hell didn't they employ you on the planning committee I just don't know. You could have single handily saved Houston from all this damage and billions of dollars.
Thanks. But I am not welcome in Texas - http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 27, 2017, 07:01:15 AM
ALL man made you say??? Then you go on to quote someone who says

Quote
a combination of natural and man-made factors has created a chronic drainage problem

And you are only talking about stupid 'gutters'. There are far more things needed to do but show me one city that could survive a over a metre of rain over a few days without a problem.

I agree they could probably do with more green space and permeable concrete and the like. But you claiming that no one there has gutters and that would have prevented the problem only demonstrates what a dim-witted old coot you are. The rain would not have come down nicely so that the gutters cold collect it and take it away. It pelted in every direction from a hurricane. It came down, it came sideways, it came up from the ground. WTF could gutters have done to prevent all that damage? Houses were flattened!

Gutters are normally fitted at the sides of roads, so that water can drain away to prevent the roads to be flooded. But it seems the Houston gutters could not drain away the water. The gutters filled up ... and the roads were flooded, when it rained. It will apparently happen again, when it rains at Houston. So be prepared. After a few days the water has flowed away and you can use the road again.
A certain amount of flooding is pretty much normal and expected for Houston after heavy rains.  However, over a meter of rain is an awful lot to ask of even the best of drainage systems.


And the houses? Just make the basement a little higher so the house is above water, when it rains. There is no such thing like commen sense!
Many houses in the American south don't have basements, especially in areas with very shallow water tables.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 27, 2017, 07:17:12 AM
ALL man made you say??? Then you go on to quote someone who says

Quote
a combination of natural and man-made factors has created a chronic drainage problem

And you are only talking about stupid 'gutters'. There are far more things needed to do but show me one city that could survive a over a metre of rain over a few days without a problem.

I agree they could probably do with more green space and permeable concrete and the like. But you claiming that no one there has gutters and that would have prevented the problem only demonstrates what a dim-witted old coot you are. The rain would not have come down nicely so that the gutters cold collect it and take it away. It pelted in every direction from a hurricane. It came down, it came sideways, it came up from the ground. WTF could gutters have done to prevent all that damage? Houses were flattened!

Gutters are normally fitted at the sides of roads, so that water can drain away to prevent the roads to be flooded. But it seems the Houston gutters could not drain away the water. The gutters filled up ... and the roads were flooded, when it rained. It will apparently happen again, when it rains at Houston. So be prepared. After a few days the water has flowed away and you can use the road again.
A certain amount of flooding is pretty much normal and expected for Houston after heavy rains.  However, over a meter of rain is an awful lot to ask of even the best of drainage systems.


And the houses? Just make the basement a little higher so the house is above water, when it rains. There is no such thing like commen sense!
Many houses in the American south don't have basements, especially in areas with very shallow water tables.
You are not very clever, markjo.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 27, 2017, 07:34:16 AM

A certain amount of flooding is pretty much normal and expected for Houston after heavy rains.  However, over a meter of rain is an awful lot to ask of even the best of drainage systems.



2" of rain in San Diego and people die.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on September 27, 2017, 08:00:37 AM
I'm just gonna post this a gain 'cause I'm kinda jealous of Heiwa. When he posts stupid shit like this people pay him a lot of attention and go to great lengths to show him how ridiculous he is. So I thought I would try it, and see if I could get some attention too! So far, nothing. So here it is again  ;D:

I provide proof that ships don't sink at imfullofshit.com. Any news of ships that sank are lies. The Titanic? Pure propaganda.

Don't disagree with me! Aren't you happy about it? Or do you like for ships to sink and people to die? Surely not.

Ships don't sink. Rejoice!

RAWR!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 27, 2017, 10:17:35 AM

And the houses? Just make the basement a little higher so the house is above water, when it rains. There is no such thing like commen sense!
Many houses in the American south don't have basements, especially in areas with very shallow water tables.

Yes! It seems Houston is an area with very shallow water tables and should benefit from making the basement a little higher so the house is above water, when it rains.
Or maybe you shouldn't build any houses where the water tables are shallow? What do you think?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 27, 2017, 10:33:28 AM

And the houses? Just make the basement a little higher so the house is above water, when it rains. There is no such thing like commen sense!
Many houses in the American south don't have basements, especially in areas with very shallow water tables.

Yes! It seems Houston is an area with very shallow water tables and should benefit from making the basement a little higher so the house is above water, when it rains.
Or maybe you shouldn't build any houses where the water tables are shallow? What do you think?

I think that you have a different idea of what a basement is than I do.  Perhaps you're thinking of a foundation as opposed to a basement.  And yes, some areas prone to flooding do indeed raise their houses above the expected flood levels, however they do not have basements.
(http://beachcathomes.com/wp-content/themes/streamline_20/images/plans/1600p/1600P_Cam-2-Day.jpg)
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 27, 2017, 11:02:44 AM

And the houses? Just make the basement a little higher so the house is above water, when it rains. There is no such thing like commen sense!
Many houses in the American south don't have basements, especially in areas with very shallow water tables.

Yes! It seems Houston is an area with very shallow water tables and should benefit from making the basement a little higher so the house is above water, when it rains.
Or maybe you shouldn't build any houses where the water tables are shallow? What do you think?

I think that you have a different idea of what a basement is than I do.  Perhaps you're thinking of a foundation as opposed to a basement.  And yes, some areas prone to flooding do indeed raise their houses above the expected flood levels, however they do not have basements.
(http://beachcathomes.com/wp-content/themes/streamline_20/images/plans/1600p/1600P_Cam-2-Day.jpg)
You are right.
My house at Freiberg i.Sa, had a nice cellar/basement but not a foundation made around 1200 A.C.  http://heiwaco.com/freiberg.htm .
At that time they dug a hole in the ground - the cellar - and then they built a house on top. The first house burnt down 1488 but a new one was built - see the link - and it was ready 1520. I lived in it.
Those were the times. Now I am rich and do not have to live poorly.
How do you live? In the street? Do you have an income?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on September 28, 2017, 11:23:54 AM
So... it was an Engineered Storm, Right?!??!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 28, 2017, 11:38:28 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on September 28, 2017, 11:46:28 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.

That's just 'cause you're a bunch of twerps. I'm a handsome rich senile fuckface who lives in Beausoleil and offers people Nespresso or something. Also something about homework. Ships and those were the times. My brain is decomposing please send help. Are you a guttersnipe?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 29, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on September 29, 2017, 11:40:02 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on September 29, 2017, 01:00:49 PM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?

Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on October 01, 2017, 09:16:32 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 01, 2017, 10:17:50 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on October 01, 2017, 10:32:09 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Okay.  Now I understand. 

You're both an incompetent engineer and a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.

We understand.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 01, 2017, 11:31:54 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Okay.  Now I understand. 

You're both an incompetent engineer and a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.

We understand.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mike

You sound like a tewwowist. Who are you?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on October 01, 2017, 12:25:33 PM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Okay.  Now I understand. 

You're both an incompetent engineer and a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.

We understand.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mike

You sound like a tewwowist. Who are you?
You know who I am which makes this just another troll reply. 

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 01, 2017, 06:39:45 PM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Okay.  Now I understand. 

You're both an incompetent engineer and a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.

We understand.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mike

You sound like a tewwowist. Who are you?
You know who I am which makes this just another troll reply. 

Mike

Well, whoever you are, you are a joke!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on October 02, 2017, 01:53:44 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Okay.  Now I understand. 

You're both an incompetent engineer and a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.

We understand.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mike

You sound like a tewwowist. Who are you?
You know who I am which makes this just another troll reply. 

Mike

Well, whoever you are, you are a joke!
Who ever I m proved you wrong at every turn.  You've even admitted I was right and yet didn't change your website.  You're the joke, a liar, a troll, and a crackpot conspiracy theorist. These are the reasons no credible engineer wants anything to do with you.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 02, 2017, 05:11:54 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Okay.  Now I understand. 

You're both an incompetent engineer and a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.

We understand.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mike

You sound like a tewwowist. Who are you?
You know who I am which makes this just another troll reply. 

Mike

Well, whoever you are, you are a joke!
Who ever I m proved you wrong at every turn.  You've even admitted I was right and yet didn't change your website.  You're the joke, a liar, a troll, and a crackpot conspiracy theorist. These are the reasons no credible engineer wants anything to do with you.

Mike

No, I politely pointed out that you were wrong. And I improve my website almost daily, so do not suggest otherwise. You sound sick. Visit a doctor, or something, to get help.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on October 02, 2017, 07:33:55 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Okay.  Now I understand. 

You're both an incompetent engineer and a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.

We understand.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mike

You sound like a tewwowist. Who are you?
You know who I am which makes this just another troll reply. 

Mike

Well, whoever you are, you are a joke!
Who ever I m proved you wrong at every turn.  You've even admitted I was right and yet didn't change your website.  You're the joke, a liar, a troll, and a crackpot conspiracy theorist. These are the reasons no credible engineer wants anything to do with you.

Mike

No, I politely pointed out that you were wrong. And I improve my website almost daily, so do not suggest otherwise. You sound sick. Visit a doctor, or something, to get help.
I'm not suggesting anything.  I'm flat out saying you're a liar.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 03, 2017, 08:00:00 PM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Okay.  Now I understand. 

You're both an incompetent engineer and a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.

We understand.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mike

You sound like a tewwowist. Who are you?
You know who I am which makes this just another troll reply. 

Mike

Well, whoever you are, you are a joke!
Who ever I m proved you wrong at every turn.  You've even admitted I was right and yet didn't change your website.  You're the joke, a liar, a troll, and a crackpot conspiracy theorist. These are the reasons no credible engineer wants anything to do with you.

Mike

No, I politely pointed out that you were wrong. And I improve my website almost daily, so do not suggest otherwise. You sound sick. Visit a doctor, or something, to get help.
I'm not suggesting anything.  I'm flat out saying you're a liar.

That is clear. But you are wrong about me. All info at my website http://heiwaco.com is correct!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 04, 2017, 02:05:24 AM
Plus a glass of genuine bio-engineered french sounding instant coffee to any twerp who knocks on the door during visiting hours.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on October 04, 2017, 03:31:11 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Okay.  Now I understand. 

You're both an incompetent engineer and a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.

We understand.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mike

You sound like a tewwowist. Who are you?
You know who I am which makes this just another troll reply. 

Mike

Well, whoever you are, you are a joke!
Who ever I m proved you wrong at every turn.  You've even admitted I was right and yet didn't change your website.  You're the joke, a liar, a troll, and a crackpot conspiracy theorist. These are the reasons no credible engineer wants anything to do with you.

Mike

No, I politely pointed out that you were wrong. And I improve my website almost daily, so do not suggest otherwise. You sound sick. Visit a doctor, or something, to get help.
I'm not suggesting anything.  I'm flat out saying you're a liar.

That is clear. But you are wrong about me. All info at my website http://heiwaco.com is correct!
It's all wrong.  It's all conjecture based on lack of knowledge.  I'm not wrong.  I believe you'll lie about anything that supports your conclusions.  You have no evidence that nobody died on 9/11 and yet you still maintain the buildings were empty and there were no planes.  Due to your shoddy research skills you have absolutely no proof but you won't change your story. 

Then architects and engineers at AE911 won't have anything to do with you because of you baseless claims and yet you continue to lie.  Some of the founding architects and engineers lost friends/family on 9/11 and yet you have the balls to call them liars too. 

Your fictional “evidence” that there were no planes is junk science at its worst and yet you base a whole theory on that premise.  It’s the reason you won’t actually research whether or not there were planes.  Without the claim of no planes your whole analysis goes out the window.  So you continue to lie.

You don't have the first clue how nuclear reactions work.  That’s been definitively established by me and others.  Yet you continue to lie on your website about how fast fission is impossible.  You have no idea how the six factor formula works and yet you continue to lie that the physics.

You have no understanding of the theoretical basis for black holes, yet you maintain they don't exist.  In the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, including direct observation that matches the mathematical predictions you keep on pretending you know what you’re talking about.

STOP THE LIES.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 04, 2017, 03:32:31 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Okay.  Now I understand. 

You're both an incompetent engineer and a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.

We understand.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mike

You sound like a tewwowist. Who are you?
You know who I am which makes this just another troll reply. 

Mike

Well, whoever you are, you are a joke!
Who ever I m proved you wrong at every turn.  You've even admitted I was right and yet didn't change your website.  You're the joke, a liar, a troll, and a crackpot conspiracy theorist. These are the reasons no credible engineer wants anything to do with you.

Mike

No, I politely pointed out that you were wrong. And I improve my website almost daily, so do not suggest otherwise. You sound sick. Visit a doctor, or something, to get help.
I'm not suggesting anything.  I'm flat out saying you're a liar.

That is clear. But you are wrong about me. All info at my website http://heiwaco.com is correct!
It's all wrong.  It's all conjecture based on lack of knowledge.  I'm not wrong.  I believe you'll lie about anything that supports your conclusions.  You have no evidence that nobody died on 9/11 and yet you still maintain the buildings were empty and there were no planes.  Due to your shoddy research skills you have absolutely no proof but you won't change your story. 

Then architects and engineers at AE911 won't have anything to do with you because of you baseless claims and yet you continue to lie.  Some of the founding architects and engineers lost friends/family on 9/11 and yet you have the balls to call them liars too. 

Your fictional “evidence” that there were no planes is junk science at its worst and yet you base a whole theory on that premise.  It’s the reason you won’t actually research whether or not there were planes.  Without the claim of no planes your whole analysis goes out the window.  So you continue to lie.

You don't have the first clue how nuclear reactions work.  That’s been definitively established by me and others.  Yet you continue to lie on your website about how fast fission is impossible.  You have no idea how the six factor formula works and yet you continue to lie that the physics.

You have no understanding of the theoretical basis for black holes, yet you maintain they don't exist.  In the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, including direct observation that matches the mathematical predictions you keep on pretending you know what you’re talking about.

STOP THE LIES.

Mike

You are wrong all the time. Why do you waste your time here?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on October 04, 2017, 03:54:03 AM
We don't use basements in Texas... between the extreme heat/soil content/drought conditions it makes basements not feasible...keeping a basic foundation intact is hard enough here.
What about attics in Texas? On all photos of I have seen after the rain the attics were still dry. So what was the problem?
You accuse me of asking stupid questions and then you have the nerve to say something like this?  ::)

Accuse? Me? No, you, markjo, never contribute to any discussion. You just interrupt with new questions. You seem to be a sick, paid loser.

Re topic, the flooding of Houston, not the hurricane, was man made and engineered. Criminal Texans allowed stupid Texans to build houses in areas that would soon be flooded when it rained. And when the flood occurred, the stupid Texans were told it was bad luck only happening every 10 000 years. And now the same Texans are told to repair their lodgings to be destroyed again 2021! Only 4 years later.

And the President? Donald? He is busy with Rocket Man. Don't disturb him.

What do to?
You make stupid claims like that about Texas it just makes you look ignorant.  It calls into question whether or not you're actually an engineer.  If you really are an engineer you'd have a clue how water drainage works.  Either you're and incompetent engineer or you just a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.  Which is it?

Mike

Well, I tried to be on topic and suggested that the flooding of Houston was engineered due to bad local planning, building in areas that could not be drained, lack of gutters, etc. Plenty people suggested it was due to an 1 in a 1000 years stom, but it seems such things happens every three years in Texas. Conclusion - Texans/Houstonians have a problem.

Imagine building a big city that will be flooded regularly. Only twerps do that.
Okay.  Now I understand. 

You're both an incompetent engineer and a low life troll getting your jollies on the deaths of others.

We understand.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mike

You sound like a tewwowist. Who are you?
You know who I am which makes this just another troll reply. 

Mike

Well, whoever you are, you are a joke!
Who ever I m proved you wrong at every turn.  You've even admitted I was right and yet didn't change your website.  You're the joke, a liar, a troll, and a crackpot conspiracy theorist. These are the reasons no credible engineer wants anything to do with you.

Mike

No, I politely pointed out that you were wrong. And I improve my website almost daily, so do not suggest otherwise. You sound sick. Visit a doctor, or something, to get help.
I'm not suggesting anything.  I'm flat out saying you're a liar.

That is clear. But you are wrong about me. All info at my website http://heiwaco.com is correct!
It's all wrong.  It's all conjecture based on lack of knowledge.  I'm not wrong.  I believe you'll lie about anything that supports your conclusions.  You have no evidence that nobody died on 9/11 and yet you still maintain the buildings were empty and there were no planes.  Due to your shoddy research skills you have absolutely no proof but you won't change your story. 

Then architects and engineers at AE911 won't have anything to do with you because of you baseless claims and yet you continue to lie.  Some of the founding architects and engineers lost friends/family on 9/11 and yet you have the balls to call them liars too. 

Your fictional “evidence” that there were no planes is junk science at its worst and yet you base a whole theory on that premise.  It’s the reason you won’t actually research whether or not there were planes.  Without the claim of no planes your whole analysis goes out the window.  So you continue to lie.

You don't have the first clue how nuclear reactions work.  That’s been definitively established by me and others.  Yet you continue to lie on your website about how fast fission is impossible.  You have no idea how the six factor formula works and yet you continue to lie that the physics.

You have no understanding of the theoretical basis for black holes, yet you maintain they don't exist.  In the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, including direct observation that matches the mathematical predictions you keep on pretending you know what you’re talking about.

STOP THE LIES.

Mike

You are wrong all the time. Why do you waste your time here?
Yet another informal fallacy from Heiwa.  You know you can’t refute a single thing I posted so you just dismiss my post. 

Everybody sees you for the liar you are.

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 04, 2017, 04:16:35 AM

Everybody sees you for the liar you are.

Mike



WTF, Mike?  You didn't get the memo?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on October 04, 2017, 04:44:37 AM

Everybody sees you for the liar you are.

Mike



WTF, Mike?  You didn't get the memo?
I'm memoless. I must not be on distribution. ;)

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 04, 2017, 11:06:08 AM

Everybody sees you for the liar you are.

Mike


LOL


WTF, Mike?  You didn't get the memo?
I'm memoless. I must not be on distribution. ;)

Mike
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 05, 2017, 11:44:05 AM
Here we go again:

https://www.marinelink.com/news/evacuating-producers430044?utm_source=MT-ENews-2017-10-05&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MT-ENews
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on October 05, 2017, 12:48:26 PM
So are all hurricanes engineered?


Was Hurricane Irma?

Hurricane Jose obviously wasn't....


But Hurricane Maria was, right?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 06, 2017, 10:12:52 AM
So are all hurricanes engineered?


Was Hurricane Irma?

Hurricane Jose obviously wasn't....


But Hurricane Maria was, right?
Well, topic is now T/S Nate. Try to keep abreast of all the storms around. They arrive in alphabetical order, you know?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on October 06, 2017, 12:08:03 PM
I do know, Thank you Heiwa, I hope you get better.

:) Cheers mate
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 16, 2017, 03:50:35 AM
I do know, Thank you Heiwa, I hope you get better.

:) Cheers mate

Let's discuss http://mileswmathis.com/lasveg.pdf .
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 16, 2017, 04:56:16 AM
I do know, Thank you Heiwa, I hope you get better.

:) Cheers mate

Let's discuss http://mileswmathis.com/lasveg.pdf .

Oh my God Miles Mathis is that idiot who thinks pi is equal to 4 that sandokhan cites so frequently!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 16, 2017, 05:47:17 AM
I do know, Thank you Heiwa, I hope you get better.

:) Cheers mate

Let's discuss http://mileswmathis.com/lasveg.pdf .

Oh my God Miles Mathis is that idiot who thinks pi is equal to 4 that sandokhan cites so frequently!

No, only twerps think pi is egual to 4 when you mix the math. Great fun. You sound like a twerp.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on October 16, 2017, 10:58:43 AM
Is the storm in the Eastern Atlantic Engineered also?
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 16, 2017, 11:14:33 AM
No, only twerps think pi is egual to 4 when you mix the math.

I agree. Miles Mathis is a twerp.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 16, 2017, 11:41:37 AM
Is the storm in the Eastern Atlantic Engineered also?
No. Storms anywhere are natural events. They happen. Problem is all those twerps building/buying houses, where storms can destroy them and their houses, and, when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the storm!
Same story in Somona/Santa Rosa north of SF/California. 200 000 houses destroyed by forest fire, I am told, and plenty rich and poor people get upset. They didn't expect it. They had been building/buying houses, where forest fires can destroy them and their houses, and when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the forest fire!
Forest fires are natural events.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: MicroBeta on October 17, 2017, 03:01:21 AM
Is the storm in the Eastern Atlantic Engineered also?
No. Storms anywhere are natural events. They happen. Problem is all those twerps building/buying houses, where storms can destroy them and their houses, and, when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the storm!
Same story in Somona/Santa Rosa north of SF/California. 200 000 houses destroyed by forest fire, I am told, and plenty rich and poor people get upset. They didn't expect it. They had been building/buying houses, where forest fires can destroy them and their houses, and when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the forest fire!
Forest fires are natural events.
So, are you saying nobody should live on the coast of anywhere because there might be a storm?   ::)
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 17, 2017, 03:18:15 PM
Is the storm in the Eastern Atlantic Engineered also?
No. Storms anywhere are natural events. They happen. Problem is all those twerps building/buying houses, where storms can destroy them and their houses, and, when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the storm!
Same story in Somona/Santa Rosa north of SF/California. 200 000 houses destroyed by forest fire, I am told, and plenty rich and poor people get upset. They didn't expect it. They had been building/buying houses, where forest fires can destroy them and their houses, and when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the forest fire!
Forest fires are natural events.
So, are you saying nobody should live on the coast of anywhere because there might be a storm?   ::)

If you want a long term investment to pass on through the generations, then only a twerp will build on the coast with rising sea levels and ever more frequent storm surges.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on October 18, 2017, 08:26:48 AM
Doesn't Heiwa live or work on the coast?


Hmmmmm Twerp level meter rising....
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: markjo on October 18, 2017, 08:51:57 AM
Doesn't Heiwa live or work on the coast?


Hmmmmm Twerp level meter rising....
I could be wrong, but I don't think that the Med gets very many hurricanes.

Unless they're engineered, of course.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on October 18, 2017, 08:58:46 AM
Doesn't Heiwa live or work on the coast?


Hmmmmm Twerp level meter rising....
I could be wrong, but I don't think that the Med gets very many hurricanes.

Unless they're engineered, of course.

maybe... but you can never tell with this shill government is going to do next.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 19, 2017, 03:29:29 AM
Is the storm in the Eastern Atlantic Engineered also?
No. Storms anywhere are natural events. They happen. Problem is all those twerps building/buying houses, where storms can destroy them and their houses, and, when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the storm!
Same story in Somona/Santa Rosa north of SF/California. 200 000 houses destroyed by forest fire, I am told, and plenty rich and poor people get upset. They didn't expect it. They had been building/buying houses, where forest fires can destroy them and their houses, and when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the forest fire!
Forest fires are natural events.
So, are you saying nobody should live on the coast of anywhere because there might be a storm?   ::)
No. Living close to a rocky coastline with a great view of the Mediterranean, I regularly take my bike down for a healthy triathlon; you know a swim, a run and a bike trip home, but only in sunny weather. Stormy days I stay home.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on October 19, 2017, 12:41:28 PM
Is the storm in the Eastern Atlantic Engineered also?
No. Storms anywhere are natural events. They happen. Problem is all those twerps building/buying houses, where storms can destroy them and their houses, and, when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the storm!
Same story in Somona/Santa Rosa north of SF/California. 200 000 houses destroyed by forest fire, I am told, and plenty rich and poor people get upset. They didn't expect it. They had been building/buying houses, where forest fires can destroy them and their houses, and when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the forest fire!
Forest fires are natural events.
So, are you saying nobody should live on the coast of anywhere because there might be a storm?   ::)
No. Living close to a rocky coastline with a great view of the Mediterranean, I regularly take my bike down for a healthy triathlon; you know a swim, a run and a bike trip home, but only in sunny weather. Stormy days I stay home.


****yawwwn****

When you start running morning Marathons in order to train for something like the MOAB 200... while holding a day job, like Cameron Hanes... Get back to us...

NOBODY CARES! WORK HARDER!
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 19, 2017, 02:42:58 PM
Is the storm in the Eastern Atlantic Engineered also?
No. Storms anywhere are natural events. They happen. Problem is all those twerps building/buying houses, where storms can destroy them and their houses, and, when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the storm!
Same story in Somona/Santa Rosa north of SF/California. 200 000 houses destroyed by forest fire, I am told, and plenty rich and poor people get upset. They didn't expect it. They had been building/buying houses, where forest fires can destroy them and their houses, and when it happens, they get upset. They didn't expect the forest fire!
Forest fires are natural events.
So, are you saying nobody should live on the coast of anywhere because there might be a storm?   ::)
No. Living close to a rocky coastline with a great view of the Mediterranean, I regularly take my bike down for a healthy triathlon; you know a swim, a run and a bike trip home, but only in sunny weather. Stormy days I stay home.


****yawwwn****

When you start running morning Marathons in order to train for something like the MOAB 200... while holding a day job, like Cameron Hanes... Get back to us...

NOBODY CARES! WORK HARDER!

You sound tired. Try triathlon. Swim, ran and bike. It will keep you out of trouble.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: RocketSauce on October 20, 2017, 09:57:09 AM
I'm sorry, your posts... it's like krytponite

They just Bore me so hard
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 20, 2017, 10:00:26 AM
I'm sorry, your posts... it's like krytponite

They just Bore me so hard


You sound tired. Try triathlon. Swim, ran and bike. It will keep you out of trouble.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 20, 2017, 10:59:52 AM
Riding a stationary therapy bike in running shoes then taking a bath is NOT a triathlon.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Heiwa on October 20, 2017, 11:05:14 AM
Riding a stationary therapy bike in running shoes then taking a bath is NOT a triathlon.
You sound like a twerp.
Title: Re: HURRICANE HARVEY, ENGINEERED STORM?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 20, 2017, 11:23:59 AM
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