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Title: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 20, 2016, 10:51:57 PM
Hello mister and misses satans and the others;  :)

Today we see how is rain occurs and why are the clouds occur.

As we know that meteorology knows where is the next rain fall down by looking the clouds. And we think that so the clouds cause the rain. This is not true.

God said us on the various different books that the rain falls down from the sky.

As we surely know that the sky is an ocean that surrounding us. It is reasonable to be in ice to don't fall down . when it melt to water then into rain water .

To understand the mechanism we need to look this image to understand it well.

(https://i.imgsafe.org/6eb33b3.jpg)

Sometimes i's a cloudy day but no rain, sometime a few clouds but raining. Because clouds just a mark shows maybe it's raining. The phrase as "rain laden clouds" completely a lie. It's just an effect.

Good luck.  :)


Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: FLAT_IS_TRUTH on April 20, 2016, 11:04:04 PM
Hello mister and misses satans and the others;  :)

Today we see how is rain occurs and why are the clouds occur.

As we know that meteorology knows where is the next rain fall down by looking the clouds. And we think that so the clouds cause the rain. This is not true.

God said us on the various different books that the rain falls down from the sky.

As we surely know that the sky is an ocean that surrounding us. It is reasonable to be in ice to don't fall down . when it melt to water then into rain water .

To understand the mechanism we need to look this image to understand it well.

(https://i.imgsafe.org/6eb33b3.jpg)

Sometimes i's a cloudy day but no rain, sometime a few clouds but raining. Because clouds just a mark shows maybe it's raining. The phrase as "rain laden clouds" completely a lie. It's just an effect.

Good luck.  :)

A very good point, and strong evidence of a Flat Earth. However, I believe the Celestial Ocean above the Earth is not frozen - it is liquid, separated from us by the Firmament. It is in this ocean that the stars are, and after all, how could the Great Flood have occurred if all the water was frozen?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 20, 2016, 11:05:53 PM
This thread needs to be moved to complete nonsense.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 20, 2016, 11:19:03 PM
Hello mister and misses satans and the others;  :)

Today we see how is rain occurs and why are the clouds occur.

As we know that meteorology knows where is the next rain fall down by looking the clouds. And we think that so the clouds cause the rain. This is not true.

God said us on the various different books that the rain falls down from the sky.

As we surely know that the sky is an ocean that surrounding us. It is reasonable to be in ice to don't fall down . when it melt to water then into rain water .

To understand the mechanism we need to look this image to understand it well.

(https://i.imgsafe.org/6eb33b3.jpg)

Sometimes i's a cloudy day but no rain, sometime a few clouds but raining. Because clouds just a mark shows maybe it's raining. The phrase as "rain laden clouds" completely a lie. It's just an effect.

Good luck.  :)

A very good point, and strong evidence of a Flat Earth. However, I believe the Celestial Ocean above the Earth is not frozen - it is liquid, separated from us by the Firmament. It is in this ocean that the stars are, and after all, how could the Great Flood have occurred if all the water was frozen?

We don't need the system to verbatim. But holly books say us request of the god causes to rain. So Great Flood and the others caused by God wills. But i don't think about that mechanism. Great Flood needs something causes a larger melting.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 20, 2016, 11:20:41 PM
Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather? Why can we see rain falling from clouds?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 20, 2016, 11:21:08 PM
This thread needs to be moved to complete nonsense.
Why?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 20, 2016, 11:21:33 PM
This thread needs to be moved to complete nonsense.

Omg, what a great argument!   :D
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 20, 2016, 11:22:59 PM
This thread needs to be moved to complete nonsense.

Omg, what a great argument!   :D
Well when you run away from other threads like a coward, not much I can do.

But anyways, I made a real argument.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 20, 2016, 11:23:05 PM
This thread needs to be moved to complete nonsense.
Why?

He is just a joke. Like the populer science seems on his avatar.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 20, 2016, 11:24:31 PM
This thread needs to be moved to complete nonsense.

Omg, what a great argument!   :D
Well when you run away from other threads like a coward, not much I can do.

But anyways, I made a real argument.

This means you are a real idiot that can't producing good arguments.  ;D

Your threads aren't  arguments. You are a liar like your populer science. ahah.  ;)
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 20, 2016, 11:24:48 PM
Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather?
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 20, 2016, 11:25:46 PM
Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather? Why can we see rain falling from clouds?
Learn to read.

Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather?
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?
Why would that happen?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 20, 2016, 11:28:03 PM
Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather? Why can we see rain falling from clouds?
Learn to read.

Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather?
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?
Why would that happen?
Because of the thin aluminium nose and 900kph is very fast.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 20, 2016, 11:30:16 PM
Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather? Why can we see rain falling from clouds?
Learn to read.

Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather?
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?
Why would that happen?
Because of the thin aluminium nose and 900kph is very fast.
How much does the water hitting the nose in a second, weigh?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 20, 2016, 11:33:13 PM
Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather? Why can we see rain falling from clouds?
Learn to read.

Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather?
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?
Why would that happen?
Because of the thin aluminium nose and 900kph is very fast.
How much does the water hitting the nose in a second, weigh?
How much does the cloud weigh.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 20, 2016, 11:35:57 PM
Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather? Why can we see rain falling from clouds?
Learn to read.

Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather?
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?
Why would that happen?
Because of the thin aluminium nose and 900kph is very fast.
How much does the water hitting the nose in a second, weigh?
How much does the cloud weigh.
Answer the question.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 20, 2016, 11:43:22 PM
Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather? Why can we see rain falling from clouds?
Learn to read.

Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather?
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?
Why would that happen?
Because of the thin aluminium nose and 900kph is very fast.
How much does the water hitting the nose in a second, weigh?
How much does the cloud weigh.
Answer the question.
How much water are you talking about, Rainfall at a rate of 300mm per hour from a cloud?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 20, 2016, 11:44:36 PM
I see I shut you up. Try harder next time.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 20, 2016, 11:45:25 PM
I see I shut you up. Try harder next time.
Answer the question.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 20, 2016, 11:47:29 PM
Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather? Why can we see rain falling from clouds?
Learn to read.

Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather?
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?
Why would that happen?
Because of the thin aluminium nose and 900kph is very fast.
How much does the water hitting the nose in a second, weigh?
I'm still waiting.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 20, 2016, 11:48:58 PM
Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather? Why can we see rain falling from clouds?
Learn to read.

Why do planes fly above clouds to fly above weather?
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?
Why would that happen?
Because of the thin aluminium nose and 900kph is very fast.
How much does the water hitting the nose in a second, weigh?
I'm still waiting.
If it is a liter of water then it would be 1kg.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 20, 2016, 11:49:41 PM
Then why are you claiming it's a million tons?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Ecthelion on April 20, 2016, 11:52:40 PM
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?

Just like the billions of tonnes of water in the ocean smash you to pieces when you jump into it.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 20, 2016, 11:53:53 PM
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?

Just like the billions of tonnes of water in the ocean smash you to pieces when you jump into it.
He knows what he is claiming is incorrect. He just has nothing else.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 20, 2016, 11:54:30 PM
Then why are you claiming it's a million tons?
Sorry you are correct, If you had 300mm of rain per hour its probably more than millions of tonnes hanging in the cloud.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 20, 2016, 11:56:01 PM
Is it because when they hit the millions of tonnes of water hanging in the cloud at 900kph it smashes them to pieces?

Just like the billions of tonnes of water in the ocean smash you to pieces when you jump into it.
Correct, at 900kph this tends to happen.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 20, 2016, 11:56:49 PM
Then why are you claiming it's a million tons?
Sorry you are correct, If you had 300mm of rain per hour its probably more than millions of tonnes hanging in the cloud.
What does that have to do with the question? I could easily point out 1 liter of water doesn't have a mass of 1 kg but it doesn't really mean anything right now.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Ecthelion on April 21, 2016, 12:00:11 AM
Correct, at 900kph this tends to happen.

I don't jump with 900 kph. But since f=m*a, and the ocean is certainly more than a thousand times heavier than a cloud, .9 kph ought to suffice.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 21, 2016, 12:00:34 AM
Furthermore, a cloud does not have the density of water. Clouds float on air, therefore they are less dense than air.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 21, 2016, 12:05:54 AM
Correct, at 900kph this tends to happen.

I don't jump with 900 kph. But since f=m*a, and the ocean is certainly more than a thousand times heavier than a cloud, .9 kph ought to suffice.
If a cloud can drop 2500mm of rain in 48 hours how much does it weigh?
And do try to keep up, nobody is interested in how fast you can jump.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Ecthelion on April 21, 2016, 12:14:03 AM
If a cloud can drop 2500mm of rain in 48 hours how much does it weigh?
And do try to keep up, nobody is interested in how fast you can jump.

No idea. How many clouds does it take to fill an ocean?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: richaddis on April 21, 2016, 03:05:17 AM
Hello mister and misses satans and the others;  :)

Today we see how is rain occurs and why are the clouds occur.

As we know that meteorology knows where is the next rain fall down by looking the clouds. And we think that so the clouds cause the rain. This is not true.

God said us on the various different books that the rain falls down from the sky.

As we surely know that the sky is an ocean that surrounding us. It is reasonable to be in ice to don't fall down . when it melt to water then into rain water .

To understand the mechanism we need to look this image to understand it well.

(https://i.imgsafe.org/6eb33b3.jpg)

Sometimes i's a cloudy day but no rain, sometime a few clouds but raining. Because clouds just a mark shows maybe it's raining. The phrase as "rain laden clouds" completely a lie. It's just an effect.

Good luck.  :)

Once again, the Heroic Īntikam steps in and rewrites all of our scientific knowledge using his incredible intellect!

Have you ever witnessed a storm from a distance? If you have, you will have seen this very familiar scene...

(https://imageshack.com/i/pnFqhXFhj)

You can actually watch the rain falling from the cloud. It's as if the cloud smudges down to the ground. It's so incredibly easy to observe and so common that it really makes me wonder whether you've grown up in a box, or whether you walk around with your head looking down to the ground!

This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense. You are really doing nothing to forward the FE agenda!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 21, 2016, 03:10:04 AM


This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.
Why?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: richaddis on April 21, 2016, 03:24:56 AM


This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.
Why?

Because it is and has been proved as complete nonsense by not only the picture I have posted, but by the experiences of anyone who has ever seen rain fall from a cloud, which I postulate is around 99.99999% of mankind. It was off to a non-start.

Have you seen rain fall from a cloud? Do you think that rain is independent of clouds and falls from the firmament? If I told you that trees didn't actually grow from the ground, but grew from an invisible substance a metre above the ground would you think that was a sensible suggestion? Or would the fact that you can actually see them growing from the ground make my suggestion "complete nonsense"? Ask yourself these questions Tappet.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 21, 2016, 03:30:50 AM


This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.
Why?

Because it is and has been proved as complete nonsense by not only the picture I have posted, but by the experiences of anyone who has ever seen rain fall from a cloud, which I postulate is around 99.99999% of mankind. It was off to a non-start.

Have you seen rain fall from a cloud? Do you think that rain is independent of clouds and falls from the firmament? If I told you that trees didn't actually grow from the ground, but grew from an invisible substance a metre above the ground would you think that was a sensible suggestion? Or would the fact that you can actually see them growing from the ground make my suggestion "complete nonsense"? Ask yourself these questions Tappet.
Now you are talking about tree's? Next you will be telling me I need tree's to breath!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: rabinoz on April 21, 2016, 03:37:19 AM


This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.
Why?

Because it is and has been proved as complete nonsense by not only the picture I have posted, but by the experiences of anyone who has ever seen rain fall from a cloud, which I postulate is around 99.99999% of mankind. It was off to a non-start.

Have you seen rain fall from a cloud? Do you think that rain is independent of clouds and falls from the firmament? If I told you that trees didn't actually grow from the ground, but grew from an invisible substance a metre above the ground would you think that was a sensible suggestion? Or would the fact that you can actually see them growing from the ground make my suggestion "complete nonsense"? Ask yourself these questions Tappet.
Now you are talking about tree's? Next you will be telling me I need tree's to breath!
Since you brought it up, yes in the long term you need trees (well all vegetation) to breathe! Vegetation generates the oxygen used by people, animals, fires, engines, etc.
Mind you this has nothing to do with the case!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: richaddis on April 21, 2016, 03:40:36 AM


This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.
Why?

Because it is and has been proved as complete nonsense by not only the picture I have posted, but by the experiences of anyone who has ever seen rain fall from a cloud, which I postulate is around 99.99999% of mankind. It was off to a non-start.

Have you seen rain fall from a cloud? Do you think that rain is independent of clouds and falls from the firmament? If I told you that trees didn't actually grow from the ground, but grew from an invisible substance a metre above the ground would you think that was a sensible suggestion? Or would the fact that you can actually see them growing from the ground make my suggestion "complete nonsense"? Ask yourself these questions Tappet.
Now you are talking about tree's? Next you will be telling me I need tree's to breath!

Christ this is hard work.

It was an analogy to demonstrate how something that is easily observable renders the suggestion of its argument as complete nonsense.

You taking the place of Jroa in his absence?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 21, 2016, 03:46:52 AM


This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.
Why?

Because it is and has been proved as complete nonsense by not only the picture I have posted, but by the experiences of anyone who has ever seen rain fall from a cloud, which I postulate is around 99.99999% of mankind. It was off to a non-start.

Have you seen rain fall from a cloud? Do you think that rain is independent of clouds and falls from the firmament? If I told you that trees didn't actually grow from the ground, but grew from an invisible substance a metre above the ground would you think that was a sensible suggestion? Or would the fact that you can actually see them growing from the ground make my suggestion "complete nonsense"? Ask yourself these questions Tappet.
Now you are talking about tree's? Next you will be telling me I need tree's to breath!
Since you brought it up, yes in the long term you need trees (well all vegetation) to breathe! Vegetation generates the oxygen used by people, animals, fires, engines, etc.
Mind you this has nothing to do with the case!
Since you and many others have said I live in a basement, could you give me the mathematical formula to determine how many tree's I would need to create oxygen in there with the door shut to live. Oh, and do not forget to allow for them to breath oxygen at night.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on April 21, 2016, 03:48:57 AM


This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.
Why?

Because it is and has been proved as complete nonsense by not only the picture I have posted, but by the experiences of anyone who has ever seen rain fall from a cloud, which I postulate is around 99.99999% of mankind. It was off to a non-start.

Have you seen rain fall from a cloud? Do you think that rain is independent of clouds and falls from the firmament? If I told you that trees didn't actually grow from the ground, but grew from an invisible substance a metre above the ground would you think that was a sensible suggestion? Or would the fact that you can actually see them growing from the ground make my suggestion "complete nonsense"? Ask yourself these questions Tappet.
Now you are talking about tree's? Next you will be telling me I need tree's to breath!

Christ tappet this is hard work.


Fixed.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Ecthelion on April 21, 2016, 04:52:49 AM
Since you and many others have said I live in a basement, could you give me the mathematical formula to determine how many tree's I would need to create oxygen in there with the door shut to live. Oh, and do not forget to allow for them to breath oxygen at night.

Since basements are dark, trees probably won't help you.
Also: http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/blog/english-mistakes/apostrophe-s/ (http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/blog/english-mistakes/apostrophe-s/)
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: CaptainMagpie on April 21, 2016, 10:51:10 AM
Since you and many others have said I live in a basement, could you give me the mathematical formula to determine how many tree's I would need to create oxygen in there with the door shut to live. Oh, and do not forget to allow for them to breath oxygen at night.

Since basements are dark, trees probably won't help you.
Also: http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/blog/english-mistakes/apostrophe-s/ (http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/blog/english-mistakes/apostrophe-s/)
Also, unless that basement is air tight I don't think you will need trees to still have oxygen.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 21, 2016, 01:57:20 PM
Hello mister and misses satans and the others;  :)

Today we see how is rain occurs and why are the clouds occur.

As we know that meteorology knows where is the next rain fall down by looking the clouds. And we think that so the clouds cause the rain. This is not true.

God said us on the various different books that the rain falls down from the sky.

As we surely know that the sky is an ocean that surrounding us. It is reasonable to be in ice to don't fall down . when it melt to water then into rain water .

To understand the mechanism we need to look this image to understand it well.

(https://i.imgsafe.org/6eb33b3.jpg)

Sometimes i's a cloudy day but no rain, sometime a few clouds but raining. Because clouds just a mark shows maybe it's raining. The phrase as "rain laden clouds" completely a lie. It's just an effect.

Good luck.  :)

Once again, the Heroic Īntikam steps in and rewrites all of our scientific knowledge using his incredible intellect!

Have you ever witnessed a storm from a distance? If you have, you will have seen this very familiar scene...

(https://imageshack.com/i/pnFqhXFhj)

You can actually watch the rain falling from the cloud. It's as if the cloud smudges down to the ground. It's so incredibly easy to observe and so common that it really makes me wonder whether you've grown up in a box, or whether you walk around with your head looking down to the ground!

This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense. You are really doing nothing to forward the FE agenda!

Your post most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.

The rain don't fall down from the clouds.

They are falling down from the sky and passing through the clouds.

Good bye.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on April 21, 2016, 02:28:09 PM
Glad to see you came out as a troll account.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: richaddis on April 21, 2016, 03:28:48 PM
Hello mister and misses satans and the others;  :)

Today we see how is rain occurs and why are the clouds occur.

As we know that meteorology knows where is the next rain fall down by looking the clouds. And we think that so the clouds cause the rain. This is not true.

God said us on the various different books that the rain falls down from the sky.

As we surely know that the sky is an ocean that surrounding us. It is reasonable to be in ice to don't fall down . when it melt to water then into rain water .

To understand the mechanism we need to look this image to understand it well.

(https://i.imgsafe.org/6eb33b3.jpg)

Sometimes i's a cloudy day but no rain, sometime a few clouds but raining. Because clouds just a mark shows maybe it's raining. The phrase as "rain laden clouds" completely a lie. It's just an effect.

Good luck.  :)

Once again, the Heroic Īntikam steps in and rewrites all of our scientific knowledge using his incredible intellect!

Have you ever witnessed a storm from a distance? If you have, you will have seen this very familiar scene...

(https://imageshack.com/i/pnFqhXFhj)

You can actually watch the rain falling from the cloud. It's as if the cloud smudges down to the ground. It's so incredibly easy to observe and so common that it really makes me wonder whether you've grown up in a box, or whether you walk around with your head looking down to the ground!

This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense. You are really doing nothing to forward the FE agenda!

Your post most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.

The rain don't fall down from the clouds.

They are falling down from the sky and passing through the clouds.

Good bye.

Look at the image Īntikam! Use your eyes! You can see that the rain isn't above the cloud... It is only below the cloud! I've seen this more times than I can count.

Don't deliberately be idiotic just to try and further your cause...you know that this is a stupid argument but you're too stubborn to admit that you were wrong!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: LuggerSailor on April 21, 2016, 03:59:45 PM
Hello mister and misses satans and the others;  :)

Today we see how is rain occurs and why are the clouds occur.

As we know that meteorology knows where is the next rain fall down by looking the clouds. And we think that so the clouds cause the rain. This is not true.

God said us on the various different books that the rain falls down from the sky.

As we surely know that the sky is an ocean that surrounding us. It is reasonable to be in ice to don't fall down . when it melt to water then into rain water .

To understand the mechanism we need to look this image to understand it well.

(https://i.imgsafe.org/6eb33b3.jpg)

Sometimes i's a cloudy day but no rain, sometime a few clouds but raining. Because clouds just a mark shows maybe it's raining. The phrase as "rain laden clouds" completely a lie. It's just an effect.

Good luck.  :)

Once again, the Heroic Īntikam steps in and rewrites all of our scientific knowledge using his incredible intellect!

Have you ever witnessed a storm from a distance? If you have, you will have seen this very familiar scene...

(https://imageshack.com/i/pnFqhXFhj)

You can actually watch the rain falling from the cloud. It's as if the cloud smudges down to the ground. It's so incredibly easy to observe and so common that it really makes me wonder whether you've grown up in a box, or whether you walk around with your head looking down to the ground!

This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense. You are really doing nothing to forward the FE agenda!

Your post most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.

The rain don't fall down from the clouds.

They are falling down from the sky and passing through the clouds.

Good bye.

Isn't your god supposed to do some awful things to you when it catches you lying?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 22, 2016, 05:23:42 AM
Hello mister and misses satans and the others;  :)

Today we see how is rain occurs and why are the clouds occur.

As we know that meteorology knows where is the next rain fall down by looking the clouds. And we think that so the clouds cause the rain. This is not true.

God said us on the various different books that the rain falls down from the sky.

As we surely know that the sky is an ocean that surrounding us. It is reasonable to be in ice to don't fall down . when it melt to water then into rain water .

To understand the mechanism we need to look this image to understand it well.

(https://i.imgsafe.org/6eb33b3.jpg)

Sometimes i's a cloudy day but no rain, sometime a few clouds but raining. Because clouds just a mark shows maybe it's raining. The phrase as "rain laden clouds" completely a lie. It's just an effect.

Good luck.  :)

Once again, the Heroic Īntikam steps in and rewrites all of our scientific knowledge using his incredible intellect!

Have you ever witnessed a storm from a distance? If you have, you will have seen this very familiar scene...

(https://imageshack.com/i/pnFqhXFhj)

You can actually watch the rain falling from the cloud. It's as if the cloud smudges down to the ground. It's so incredibly easy to observe and so common that it really makes me wonder whether you've grown up in a box, or whether you walk around with your head looking down to the ground!

This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense. You are really doing nothing to forward the FE agenda!

Your post most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.

The rain don't fall down from the clouds.

They are falling down from the sky and passing through the clouds.

Good bye.

Isn't your god supposed to do some awful things to you when it catches you lying?

God catch ever me in a lie . It is theoretically impossible.

Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 22, 2016, 05:40:04 AM
Glad to see you came out as a troll account.

Do you know what is a troll?

Troll means a man like you and the other trolls. Troll don't produce his own ideas and continuously makes copy an past like your partners.

As you see that i'm about %50 producing my own working. So if you are a illiterate that don't know what is troll, or just trying to irritate me as a troll. You  worthy of you .
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 22, 2016, 05:42:54 AM
Hello mister and misses satans and the others;  :)

Today we see how is rain occurs and why are the clouds occur.

As we know that meteorology knows where is the next rain fall down by looking the clouds. And we think that so the clouds cause the rain. This is not true.

God said us on the various different books that the rain falls down from the sky.

As we surely know that the sky is an ocean that surrounding us. It is reasonable to be in ice to don't fall down . when it melt to water then into rain water .

To understand the mechanism we need to look this image to understand it well.

(https://i.imgsafe.org/6eb33b3.jpg)

Sometimes i's a cloudy day but no rain, sometime a few clouds but raining. Because clouds just a mark shows maybe it's raining. The phrase as "rain laden clouds" completely a lie. It's just an effect.

Good luck.  :)

Once again, the Heroic Īntikam steps in and rewrites all of our scientific knowledge using his incredible intellect!

Have you ever witnessed a storm from a distance? If you have, you will have seen this very familiar scene...

(https://imageshack.com/i/pnFqhXFhj)

You can actually watch the rain falling from the cloud. It's as if the cloud smudges down to the ground. It's so incredibly easy to observe and so common that it really makes me wonder whether you've grown up in a box, or whether you walk around with your head looking down to the ground!

This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense. You are really doing nothing to forward the FE agenda!

Your post most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.

The rain don't fall down from the clouds.

They are falling down from the sky and passing through the clouds.

Good bye.

Look at the image Īntikam! Use your eyes! You can see that the rain isn't above the cloud... It is only below the cloud! I've seen this more times than I can count.

Don't deliberately be idiotic just to try and further your cause...you know that this is a stupid argument but you're too stubborn to admit that you were wrong!

You idiotly image did not open.

I told you can a find picture do defend to NASA but i can a picture defend to rain comes from sky too. These pictures not prove something.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: richaddis on April 22, 2016, 07:59:58 AM
Glad to see you came out as a troll account.

Do you know what is a troll?

Troll means a man like you and the other trolls. Troll don't produce his own ideas and continuously makes copy an past like your partners.

As you see that i'm about %50 producing my own working. So if you are a illiterate that don't know what is troll, or just trying to irritate me as a troll. You  worthy of you .

Trolling has nothing to do with copy and pasting information.

A 'Troll' is someone who is only participating in an Internet forum to wind people up and not actually trying to give any serious weight to a debate.

This is why, you calling everybody who disagrees with you, a "troll" is actually an act of trolling itself! You only say that to wind people up!

Everybody who debates with you provides evidence and actually spends a fair amount of time preparing and typing their responses, so don't be so rude in always responding with insults!

There is an expression in England "The Pot calling the Kettle black"...look it up
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: richaddis on April 22, 2016, 08:05:42 AM
Hello mister and misses satans and the others;  :)

Today we see how is rain occurs and why are the clouds occur.

As we know that meteorology knows where is the next rain fall down by looking the clouds. And we think that so the clouds cause the rain. This is not true.

God said us on the various different books that the rain falls down from the sky.

As we surely know that the sky is an ocean that surrounding us. It is reasonable to be in ice to don't fall down . when it melt to water then into rain water .

To understand the mechanism we need to look this image to understand it well.

(https://i.imgsafe.org/6eb33b3.jpg)

Sometimes i's a cloudy day but no rain, sometime a few clouds but raining. Because clouds just a mark shows maybe it's raining. The phrase as "rain laden clouds" completely a lie. It's just an effect.

Good luck.  :)

Once again, the Heroic Īntikam steps in and rewrites all of our scientific knowledge using his incredible intellect!

Have you ever witnessed a storm from a distance? If you have, you will have seen this very familiar scene...

(https://imageshack.com/i/pnFqhXFhj)

You can actually watch the rain falling from the cloud. It's as if the cloud smudges down to the ground. It's so incredibly easy to observe and so common that it really makes me wonder whether you've grown up in a box, or whether you walk around with your head looking down to the ground!

This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense. You are really doing nothing to forward the FE agenda!

Your post most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.

The rain don't fall down from the clouds.

They are falling down from the sky and passing through the clouds.

Good bye.

Look at the image Īntikam! Use your eyes! You can see that the rain isn't above the cloud... It is only below the cloud! I've seen this more times than I can count.

Don't deliberately be idiotic just to try and further your cause...you know that this is a stupid argument but you're too stubborn to admit that you were wrong!

You idiotly image did not open.

I told you can a find picture do defend to NASA but i can a picture defend to rain comes from sky too. These pictures not prove something.

1. "Idiotly" isn't a word.

2. The picture displays just fine for me and everyone else - check your web browser.

3. The image is just an example. You can witness this easily with your own eyes. I'm surprised that you haven't already! It's quite a common thing to see (well it is here in England where it rains all the time)

4. If you claim to have photographs of rain falling from a blue sky down through the clouds then present them!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: CaptainMagpie on April 22, 2016, 10:01:46 AM
1. "Idiotly" isn't a word.

2. The picture displays just fine for me and everyone else - check your web browser.

3. The image is just an example. You can witness this easily with your own eyes. I'm surprised that you haven't already! It's quite a common thing to see (well it is here in England where it rains all the time)

4. If you claim to have photographs of rain falling from a blue sky down through the clouds then present them!
I'm guessing there isn't a lot of rain where he is from so he doesn't get to see it.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 22, 2016, 02:55:57 PM
Clouds are not reason. Clouds are result. Usually clouds occur when it's raining, but sometimes they aren't occurs.

Cloudless rain possible with flat earth but it is impossible with the globe earth.

Cloudless rain:

(http://)

This one is better cloudless rain:

(http://)
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: richaddis on April 23, 2016, 12:00:12 AM
Clouds are not reason. Clouds are result. Usually clouds occur when it's raining, but sometimes they aren't occurs.

Cloudless rain possible with flat earth but it is impossible with the globe earth.

Cloudless rain:

(http://)

This one is better cloudless rain:

(http://)

Are clouds necessary for rain? No. Let’s imagine it is 100% humidity outside. And like a NJ summer there is not a cloud in the sky, the water is still all gaseous. If there is a small decrease in temp, pressure, or both the relative humidity will rise to over 100% and the water must condense out. You will get rain without a cloud in the sky.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 23, 2016, 01:11:49 AM
Clouds are not reason. Clouds are result. Usually clouds occur when it's raining, but sometimes they aren't occurs.

Cloudless rain possible with flat earth but it is impossible with the globe earth.

Cloudless rain:

(http://)

This one is better cloudless rain:

(http://)

Are clouds necessary for rain? No. Let’s imagine it is 100% humidity outside. And like a NJ summer there is not a cloud in the sky, the water is still all gaseous. If there is a small decrease in temp, pressure, or both the relative humidity will rise to over 100% and the water must condense out. You will get rain without a cloud in the sky.

.... is blabla :)
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: richaddis on April 23, 2016, 08:44:09 AM
Clouds are not reason. Clouds are result. Usually clouds occur when it's raining, but sometimes they aren't occurs.

Cloudless rain possible with flat earth but it is impossible with the globe earth.

Cloudless rain:

(http://)

This one is better cloudless rain:

(http://)

Are clouds necessary for rain? No. Let’s imagine it is 100% humidity outside. And like a NJ summer there is not a cloud in the sky, the water is still all gaseous. If there is a small decrease in temp, pressure, or both the relative humidity will rise to over 100% and the water must condense out. You will get rain without a cloud in the sky.

.... is blabla :)

Very intelligent response Īntikam. I guess this is you conceding in the most humble way you know.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 24, 2016, 12:12:00 PM
Clouds are not reason. Clouds are result. Usually clouds occur when it's raining, but sometimes they aren't occurs.

Cloudless rain possible with flat earth but it is impossible with the globe earth.

Cloudless rain:

(http://)

This one is better cloudless rain:

(http://)

Are clouds necessary for rain? No. Let’s imagine it is 100% humidity outside. And like a NJ summer there is not a cloud in the sky, the water is still all gaseous. If there is a small decrease in temp, pressure, or both the relative humidity will rise to over 100% and the water must condense out. You will get rain without a cloud in the sky.

.... is blabla :)

Very intelligent response Īntikam. I guess this is you conceding in the most humble way you know.

I do not get addressed to trolls so much. I'm waiting the forum management solve this problem. There is so much trolls here about %86 is over all of the internet sites. This is not a troll working this is an attack.

So;
I don't need to attrition myself dealing with trolls. This is the language that you understand . I will continue my own work about different issues. Who post an objection abot it or not. I can not waste time for empty . Because you trolls are empty and just working for distraction .

This is not my game, because i'm not a player like you.

Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: CaptainMagpie on April 24, 2016, 12:34:56 PM
Clouds are not reason. Clouds are result. Usually clouds occur when it's raining, but sometimes they aren't occurs.

Cloudless rain possible with flat earth but it is impossible with the globe earth.

Cloudless rain:

(http://)

This one is better cloudless rain:

(http://)

Are clouds necessary for rain? No. Let’s imagine it is 100% humidity outside. And like a NJ summer there is not a cloud in the sky, the water is still all gaseous. If there is a small decrease in temp, pressure, or both the relative humidity will rise to over 100% and the water must condense out. You will get rain without a cloud in the sky.

.... is blabla :)

Very intelligent response Īntikam. I guess this is you conceding in the most humble way you know.

I do not get addressed to trolls so much. I'm waiting the forum management solve this problem. There is so much trolls here about %86 is over all of the internet sites. This is not a troll working this is an attack.

So;
I don't need to attrition myself dealing with trolls. This is the language that you understand . I will continue my own work about different issues. Who post an objection abot it or not. I can not waste time for empty . Because you trolls are empty and just working for distraction .

This is not my game, because i'm not a player like you.
If the mods did start to crack down on trolls you would be the first to go. You were presented with an image that clearly shows your argument is not correct but then claim you cannot load the image and therefore we have not proved anything. BUT, you have said in other threads that you can use your home computer to access what was blocked before so we know you would have the ability to see it eventually if you were not being dishonest about it before. If that isn't the definition of a troll I don't know what is so you are definitely a player.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 24, 2016, 12:39:50 PM
Clouds are not reason. Clouds are result. Usually clouds occur when it's raining, but sometimes they aren't occurs.

Cloudless rain possible with flat earth but it is impossible with the globe earth.

Cloudless rain:

(http://)

This one is better cloudless rain:

(http://)

Are clouds necessary for rain? No. Let’s imagine it is 100% humidity outside. And like a NJ summer there is not a cloud in the sky, the water is still all gaseous. If there is a small decrease in temp, pressure, or both the relative humidity will rise to over 100% and the water must condense out. You will get rain without a cloud in the sky.

.... is blabla :)

Very intelligent response Īntikam. I guess this is you conceding in the most humble way you know.

I do not get addressed to trolls so much. I'm waiting the forum management solve this problem. There is so much trolls here about %86 is over all of the internet sites. This is not a troll working this is an attack.

So;
I don't need to attrition myself dealing with trolls. This is the language that you understand . I will continue my own work about different issues. Who post an objection abot it or not. I can not waste time for empty . Because you trolls are empty and just working for distraction .

This is not my game, because i'm not a player like you.
If the mods did start to crack down on trolls you would be the first to go. You were presented with an image that clearly shows your argument is not correct but then claim you cannot load the image and therefore we have not proved anything. BUT, you have said in other threads that you can use your home computer to access what was blocked before so we know you would have the ability to see it eventually if you were not being dishonest about it before. If that isn't the definition of a troll I don't know what is so you are definitely a player.

You are making perception study to veer the meaning of the troll. Aw all we know that troll is meaning of working on a institution and defend something which his institution support. Here is the institution is NASA and ESA. Here almost all RE's are troll. I'm or nobody of FES can't be troll because the FES management do not give us wages and they know this. but you are messing their minds. all they need to ban you all. Except this, i don't see another solve.


Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: CaptainMagpie on April 24, 2016, 12:48:01 PM
Clouds are not reason. Clouds are result. Usually clouds occur when it's raining, but sometimes they aren't occurs.

Cloudless rain possible with flat earth but it is impossible with the globe earth.

Cloudless rain:

(http://)

This one is better cloudless rain:

(http://)

Are clouds necessary for rain? No. Let’s imagine it is 100% humidity outside. And like a NJ summer there is not a cloud in the sky, the water is still all gaseous. If there is a small decrease in temp, pressure, or both the relative humidity will rise to over 100% and the water must condense out. You will get rain without a cloud in the sky.

.... is blabla :)

Very intelligent response Īntikam. I guess this is you conceding in the most humble way you know.

I do not get addressed to trolls so much. I'm waiting the forum management solve this problem. There is so much trolls here about %86 is over all of the internet sites. This is not a troll working this is an attack.

So;
I don't need to attrition myself dealing with trolls. This is the language that you understand . I will continue my own work about different issues. Who post an objection abot it or not. I can not waste time for empty . Because you trolls are empty and just working for distraction .

This is not my game, because i'm not a player like you.
If the mods did start to crack down on trolls you would be the first to go. You were presented with an image that clearly shows your argument is not correct but then claim you cannot load the image and therefore we have not proved anything. BUT, you have said in other threads that you can use your home computer to access what was blocked before so we know you would have the ability to see it eventually if you were not being dishonest about it before. If that isn't the definition of a troll I don't know what is so you are definitely a player.

You are making perception study to veer the meaning of the troll. Aw all we know that troll is meaning of working on a institution and defend something which his institution support. Here is the institution is NASA and ESA. Here almost all RE's are troll. I'm or nobody of FES can't be troll because the FES management do not give us wages and they know this. but you are messing their minds. all they need to ban you all. Except this, i don't see another solve.
First off, your definition of a troll is wholly inaccurate. What your describing is a shill.

Second off, no one here is getting paid to do so so by your own definition no one here is a troll.

And finally:
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion, often for their own amusement.

I hope that helps clarify some things for you.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Woody on April 24, 2016, 12:51:56 PM
Clouds are not reason. Clouds are result. Usually clouds occur when it's raining, but sometimes they aren't occurs.

Cloudless rain possible with flat earth but it is impossible with the globe earth.

Cloudless rain:

(http://)

This one is better cloudless rain:

(http://)

Are clouds necessary for rain? No. Let’s imagine it is 100% humidity outside. And like a NJ summer there is not a cloud in the sky, the water is still all gaseous. If there is a small decrease in temp, pressure, or both the relative humidity will rise to over 100% and the water must condense out. You will get rain without a cloud in the sky.

.... is blabla :)

Very intelligent response Īntikam. I guess this is you conceding in the most humble way you know.

I do not get addressed to trolls so much. I'm waiting the forum management solve this problem. There is so much trolls here about %86 is over all of the internet sites. This is not a troll working this is an attack.

So;
I don't need to attrition myself dealing with trolls. This is the language that you understand . I will continue my own work about different issues. Who post an objection abot it or not. I can not waste time for empty . Because you trolls are empty and just working for distraction .

This is not my game, because i'm not a player like you.

How are you determining who is a troll/shill and who is not?

Are they anyone questioning your hypothesis?

If you are truly interested in discovering the nature of the world you should embrace people questioning you.  It forces you to look at your conclusions from a different point of view.  Which may lead you to the answers you seek.

It is accepted that people are prone to being biased and it can influence their conclusions of observations.This is one reason scientist put their stuff up for peer review and theories generally not accepted until thoroughly vetted. Which includes allowing people thinking something is wrong input.


Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: TigerWidow on April 24, 2016, 01:04:18 PM
Nice "proof" mate.  ::) When was the definition of proof changed? I must have missed that memo.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: wise on April 24, 2016, 01:33:30 PM
Nice "proof" mate.  ::) When was the definition of proof changed? I must have missed that memo.

You have missed the life.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: CaptainMagpie on April 24, 2016, 03:55:15 PM
Nice "proof" mate.  ::) When was the definition of proof changed? I must have missed that memo.

You have missed the life.
You have missed addressing my issue with you and you being a troll and possibly a liar.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Round and Proud on April 25, 2016, 02:48:27 PM
Clouds are not reason. Clouds are result. Usually clouds occur when it's raining, but sometimes they aren't occurs.

Cloudless rain possible with flat earth but it is impossible with the globe earth.

Cloudless rain:



(http://)

This one is better cloudless rain:

(http://)

Are clouds necessary for rain? No. Let’s imagine it is 100% humidity outside. And like a NJ summer there is not a cloud in the sky, the water is still all gaseous. If there is a small decrease in temp, pressure, or both the relative humidity will rise to over 100% and the water must condense out. You will get rain without a cloud in the sky.

.... is blabla :)

I can make the video.  Raining like hell, then point the camera to one open patch of blue sky. 
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: richaddis on April 29, 2016, 01:05:25 PM
(https://imageshack.com/i/plJ3R4H6j)

Just took this picture looking over the river Mersey. Guess what that is Īntikam? It's a cloud with rain pouring down from it. It approached over the river and soaked everyone on this side!

Do you see the rain above the cloud? No.

Do you see the rain below the cloud? Yes.

Therefore, the rain does not come through the cloud as you state... It comes from the cloud.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Round and Proud on April 29, 2016, 02:51:08 PM
(https://imageshack.com/i/plJ3R4H6j)

Just took this picture looking over the river Mersey. Guess what that is Īntikam? It's a cloud with rain pouring down from it. It approached over the river and soaked everyone on this side!

Do you see the rain above the cloud? No.

Do you see the rain below the cloud? Yes.

Therefore, the rain does not come through the cloud as you state... It comes from the cloud.

Side note: Don't try and fly a light plane through that rain. The air  current is dropping faster than you can climb
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: richaddis on April 29, 2016, 03:02:57 PM
(https://imageshack.com/i/plJ3R4H6j)

Just took this picture looking over the river Mersey. Guess what that is Īntikam? It's a cloud with rain pouring down from it. It approached over the river and soaked everyone on this side!

Do you see the rain above the cloud? No.

Do you see the rain below the cloud? Yes.

Therefore, the rain does not come through the cloud as you state... It comes from the cloud.

Side note: Don't try and fly a light plane through that rain. The air  current is dropping faster than you can climb

Note taken... Will pack down my single engine now then.

Damn that's my ride home fucked.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Round and Proud on April 29, 2016, 03:20:54 PM
(https://imageshack.com/i/plJ3R4H6j)

Just took this picture looking over the river Mersey. Guess what that is Īntikam? It's a cloud with rain pouring down from it. It approached over the river and soaked everyone on this side!

Do you see the rain above the cloud? No.

Do you see the rain below the cloud? Yes.

Therefore, the rain does not come through the cloud as you state... It comes from the cloud.

Side note: Don't try and fly a light plane through that rain. The air  current is dropping faster than you can climb

Note taken... Will pack down my single engine now then.

Damn that's my ride home fucked.

I miss flying. But with cost of fuel and my diabetes and now some significant hearing loss...
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: getrealzommb on April 30, 2016, 04:03:45 AM
Correct, at 900kph this tends to happen.

I don't jump with 900 kph. But since f=m*a, and the ocean is certainly more than a thousand times heavier than a cloud, .9 kph ought to suffice.
If a cloud can drop 2500mm of rain in 48 hours how much does it weigh?
And do try to keep up, nobody is interested in how fast you can jump.

You cannot weigh a cloud, but you could estimate the weight of the water content.

Cloud droplets are spherical and the density of water is known, so the number and size of the droplets can be measured in a known volume (usually one cubic centimetre). Multiply this by the total volume of the cloud and you can calculate its weight.

the trouble with saying "2500mm in 48 hours" is that clouds are dynamic after even just 1 Minuit you are not measuring the same cloud. new droplets have formed, some have condensed and fallen, wind has altered the clouds position etc.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: racionador on April 30, 2016, 06:06:21 AM
i dont think that Op is a troll, he is just fanatic.

if he believe so much in what he say why so he just dont take a camera and make their own photos?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 30, 2016, 02:22:26 PM
(https://imageshack.com/i/plJ3R4H6j)

Just took this picture looking over the river Mersey. Guess what that is Īntikam? It's a cloud with rain pouring down from it. It approached over the river and soaked everyone on this side!

Do you see the rain above the cloud? No.

Do you see the rain below the cloud? Yes.

Therefore, the rain does not come through the cloud as you state... It comes from the cloud.

Side note: Don't try and fly a light plane through that rain. The air  current is dropping faster than you can climb

Note taken... Will pack down my single engine now then.

Damn that's my ride home fucked.

I miss flying. But with cost of fuel and my diabetes and now some significant hearing loss...

Don't forget to mention your mental handycaps. 
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: CaptainMagpie on May 02, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Don't forget to mention your mental handycaps.
What are those? Hats for your hand that you invented? Gloves already work so well though and I feel like they keep you warmer.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: richaddis on May 03, 2016, 02:54:16 AM
Don't forget to mention your mental handycaps.
What are those? Hats for your hand that you invented? Gloves already work so well though and I feel like they keep you warmer.

Jroa, for a professional troll, your poor spelling sure makes you an easy target!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: TheSchwa1337 on May 03, 2016, 07:24:50 AM


This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.
Why?

Because it is and has been proved as complete nonsense by not only the picture I have posted, but by the experiences of anyone who has ever seen rain fall from a cloud, which I postulate is around 99.99999% of mankind. It was off to a non-start.

Have you seen rain fall from a cloud? Do you think that rain is independent of clouds and falls from the firmament? If I told you that trees didn't actually grow from the ground, but grew from an invisible substance a metre above the ground would you think that was a sensible suggestion? Or would the fact that you can actually see them growing from the ground make my suggestion "complete nonsense"? Ask yourself these questions Tappet.
Now you are talking about tree's? Next you will be telling me I need tree's to breath!
(Read entire thread thus far.)

0.0 But you do need trees to breath.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: TheSchwa1337 on May 03, 2016, 07:33:57 AM


This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.
Why?

Because it is and has been proved as complete nonsense by not only the picture I have posted, but by the experiences of anyone who has ever seen rain fall from a cloud, which I postulate is around 99.99999% of mankind. It was off to a non-start.

Have you seen rain fall from a cloud? Do you think that rain is independent of clouds and falls from the firmament? If I told you that trees didn't actually grow from the ground, but grew from an invisible substance a metre above the ground would you think that was a sensible suggestion? Or would the fact that you can actually see them growing from the ground make my suggestion "complete nonsense"? Ask yourself these questions Tappet.
Now you are talking about tree's? Next you will be telling me I need tree's to breath!
Since you brought it up, yes in the long term you need trees (well all vegetation) to breathe! Vegetation generates the oxygen used by people, animals, fires, engines, etc.
Mind you this has nothing to do with the case!
Since you and many others have said I live in a basement, could you give me the mathematical formula to determine how many tree's I would need to create oxygen in there with the door shut to live. Oh, and do not forget to allow for them to breath oxygen at night.

Not sure if serious o.o

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=can+humans+survive+without+trees (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=can+humans+survive+without+trees)
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: TheSchwa1337 on May 03, 2016, 07:48:52 AM
Clouds are not reason. Clouds are result. Usually clouds occur when it's raining, but sometimes they aren't occurs.

Cloudless rain possible with flat earth but it is impossible with the globe earth.

Cloudless rain:

(http://)

This one is better cloudless rain:

(http://)

Are clouds necessary for rain? No. Let’s imagine it is 100% humidity outside. And like a NJ summer there is not a cloud in the sky, the water is still all gaseous. If there is a small decrease in temp, pressure, or both the relative humidity will rise to over 100% and the water must condense out. You will get rain without a cloud in the sky.

.... is blabla :)

Very intelligent response Īntikam. I guess this is you conceding in the most humble way you know.

I do not get addressed to trolls so much. I'm waiting the forum management solve this problem. There is so much trolls here about %86 is over all of the internet sites. This is not a troll working this is an attack.

So;
I don't need to attrition myself dealing with trolls. This is the language that you understand . I will continue my own work about different issues. Who post an objection abot it or not. I can not waste time for empty . Because you trolls are empty and just working for distraction .

This is not my game, because i'm not a player like you.
If the mods did start to crack down on trolls you would be the first to go. You were presented with an image that clearly shows your argument is not correct but then claim you cannot load the image and therefore we have not proved anything. BUT, you have said in other threads that you can use your home computer to access what was blocked before so we know you would have the ability to see it eventually if you were not being dishonest about it before. If that isn't the definition of a troll I don't know what is so you are definitely a player.

You are making perception study to veer the meaning of the troll. Aw all we know that troll is meaning of working on a institution and defend something which his institution support. Here is the institution is NASA and ESA. Here almost all RE's are troll. I'm or nobody of FES can't be troll because the FES management do not give us wages and they know this. but you are messing their minds. all they need to ban you all. Except this, i don't see another solve.

If all non Flat Earthers were banned, where would people like me go, trying to learn of the truth that seems to pertain to the idea of a flat earth.

I think that, if implemented, your ideas would be a bit much (more detrimental then helpful, I'm sure you can voice your concerns further in the suggestions board though)...People come to this site for truth, some find it, some see a lot of crazy. You're turning people off with the latter. Hence the bad reception of your idea. I'm sure you mean well, even going so far as to present your ideas in the best way you could, but as stated, you're just confusing people now.

I'm not trying to be rude as I'm sure you've felt attacked by the responses posted, I'm just trying to make the point that during all this you seem a bit unreceptive to the ideas presented to you...whatever your reasons...
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2016, 05:57:57 PM
Don't forget to mention your mental handycaps.
What are those? Hats for your hand that you invented? Gloves already work so well though and I feel like they keep you warmer.
I asked your mom about your mental handicaps.  She said she will let me know when she is done with me. 
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: sokarul on May 03, 2016, 06:07:51 PM
I would have thought you would be at sea world trying to find an equal mate.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on May 04, 2016, 12:15:58 AM


This thread should most definitely be moved to Complete Nonsense.
Why?

Because it is and has been proved as complete nonsense by not only the picture I have posted, but by the experiences of anyone who has ever seen rain fall from a cloud, which I postulate is around 99.99999% of mankind. It was off to a non-start.

Have you seen rain fall from a cloud? Do you think that rain is independent of clouds and falls from the firmament? If I told you that trees didn't actually grow from the ground, but grew from an invisible substance a metre above the ground would you think that was a sensible suggestion? Or would the fact that you can actually see them growing from the ground make my suggestion "complete nonsense"? Ask yourself these questions Tappet.
Now you are talking about tree's? Next you will be telling me I need tree's to breath!
(Read entire thread thus far.)

0.0 But you do need trees to breath.
And the trees breath oxygen at night, but just a little bit. They are considerate enough to leave a little for us.
There must be a formula to work out how many trees are needed per human, sounds to me like a great university research project for the budding young scientist.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Jadyyn on May 04, 2016, 09:21:16 AM
FYI, I believe that >50% and upwards of 80% of the oxygen is produced in the oceans/water by algae. Just saying.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: NewtSmooth on May 04, 2016, 10:53:06 AM
I'm surprised nobody's discussing this.
OP's explanation would have us believe that the sky has a firmament of ice, and the presence of the sun melts the ice to create rain. This would naturally make the following true:
1. Either clouds or rain or both are always forming during the day.
2. Neither clouds nor rain are ever forming at night.
And everybody knows that neither of these things are true. In any if-then statement, if the -then statement is false, then by the very nature of conditionals the if- statement cannot be true.

OP also claimed that the water cycle does not exist. Neat. Tell me more. Any sources on that?
How come you can see clouds rising up from evaporating lakes on a hot day?
Where does dew come from? Dew normally doesn't occur in areas of low pressure (updrafts pull moisture away from the ground), and we can clearly see a lack of any clouds. You can go outside at night and know it's not raining but find dew in the morning. Meteorology's proven humidity is a thing, and overnight cooling causes it to condense. What's your theory on that? Where does dew come from?
Same question with fog. That's a cloud at the surface. Where did it come from? 

RET states that gravity holds gases to the surface, which also quite easily explains why there's a gradient of decreasing air pressure as one climbs higher above Earth which decreases the effect of its gravity. There's not exactly any "boundary" between atmosphere and outer space, the atmosphere thins out to virtual nonexistence.
FET, on the other hand, says there's a firmament holding in the atmosphere. And now OP is claiming that firmament is made of ice. If what is known in RET as outer space lies beyond the firmament, then the hard vacuum would simply boil off the ice. There's no atmospheric pressure against the ice's surface from the infinite empty region outside, so it naturally sublimates until the water vapor fills that void. So by now that ice layer would be entirely gone, as would the atmosphere because gravity isn't real, and we would all be dead. Thus, OP's claim cannot possibly even fit the Flat Earth Theory. An ad hoc claim that the ice is infinitely thick would mean that, seeing as ice is not perfectly transparent, we wouldn't be able to see the stars, and we know that's not true. Again, in an if-then statement where the -then is false, so is the if- by default.

If you're going to invoke Occam's Razor and say that because we don't entirely understand the nature of gravity yet it can't possibly be true, I'm going to invoke Occam's Razor and challenge you to prove that Universal Acceleration can explain decreasing air pressure, that aetheric shielding is a thing, and that the Shadow Object exists, or else because you can't explain these things FET as a whole is debunked.

Another thing: Your diagram says this. "Forming the clouds decreases temperature caused by Evaporation so other waters continue to fall down." Scientific evidence has proven that when water evaporates, it draws in energy from its surroundings, and actually has a cooling effect. Sweat is evidence of this, that's how sweat works. The sweat on your body evaporates and carries thermal energy away with it. This is also why many outdoor workers dip the handles of their (non-electric) tools in water, if it's available, to cool them off if the tool has been lying in the sun and has gotten hot. Condensation works the opposite way and has the opposite effect. So if that's supposed to be one of the driving forces acting between clouds and rain, tadaaa~, your lack of understanding of easily demonstrable fact has just wrecked your theory.

So now I've done my part, I've cited reasons why I have absolutely no reason to believe you. You've created this "exposition of truth" but have given absolutely no real evidence for it. All you have is a diagram, again, with no evidence to support it. Go ahead and actually prove your idea. Until such time as an FEer actually proves this instead of cowardly shifting the burden of proof, or saying a cloud's mist can shred an airplane, or saying that everything else is a NASA-funded cover-up so only this could be the truth, I'm going to leave you with this.

This thread needs to be moved to complete nonsense.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: NewtSmooth on May 04, 2016, 11:05:12 AM
And the trees breath oxygen at night, but just a little bit. They are considerate enough to leave a little for us.
There must be a formula to work out how many trees are needed per human, sounds to me like a great university research project for the budding young scientist.
Plant something in a sealed container with no oxygen but normal levels of carbon dioxide and another with no carbon dioxide but normal levels of oxygen. The one with CO2 but no oxygen will survive and the other won't. Why? Because science has proven that plants survive by photosynthesis which requires CO2 and gives off oxygen as a waste product.
Do I have an exact formula for you? No. I do not.
Do I necessarily need to know everything about the universe to know something about a limited part of it? No. I do not.
I do understand the nature of a simple plant, however, that being that sunlight on its leaves gives it the energy to convert carbon dioxide and water into glucose and oxygen, that the level of sunlight will affect how fast the exchange occurs, that the level of necessary materials (CO2, H2O) affects whether there's any reactants for the reaction to occur, and that every reaction has an optimal temperature range. I'm sure if you'd read a book and stop shifting the burden of proof as if it means something you'd quickly find more information on how many trees are needed to sustain a single human being. Plus, as mentioned here,
FYI, I believe that >50% and upwards of 80% of the oxygen is produced in the oceans/water by algae. Just saying.
most of Earth's oxygen is created by organisms in the oceans, but it's plankton not algae. This Wikipedia article has two sources for a range of estimates from 50% to 85% of the world's oxygen production.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoplankton#Oxygen_production (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoplankton#Oxygen_production)
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on May 04, 2016, 01:37:23 PM

Do I necessarily need to know everything about the universe to know something about a limited part of it?
You do if you are going to tell everybody how the universe works.
Trees apparently breath out co2 at night and breath out oxygen through the day. So a tree should live in a sealed container.
It produces its own oxygen and its own co2. ???
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: Jadyyn on May 04, 2016, 03:48:25 PM
FYI, I believe that >50% and upwards of 80% of the oxygen is produced in the oceans/water by algae. Just saying.
most of Earth's oxygen is created by organisms in the oceans, but it's plankton not algae. This Wikipedia article has two sources for a range of estimates from 50% to 85% of the world's oxygen production.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoplankton#Oxygen_production (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoplankton#Oxygen_production)
Um FYI, phytoplankton are microalgae.
(http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/phyto.html (http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/phyto.html))

Algae is a general term of photosynthetic organisms, that includes phytoplankton:
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae))

From your quote "Phytoplankton are photosynthesizing microscopic organisms". But these are not the ONLY things in the oceans producing O2. Basically all "green" algae do - including seaweed.
(http://www.ecology.com/2011/09/12/important-organism/ (http://www.ecology.com/2011/09/12/important-organism/))
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: NewtSmooth on May 04, 2016, 04:46:52 PM

Do I necessarily need to know everything about the universe to know something about a limited part of it?
You do if you are going to tell everybody how the universe works.
Trees apparently breath out co2 at night and breath out oxygen through the day. So a tree should live in a sealed container.
It produces its own oxygen and its own co2. ???
1. No I don't. I don't need to know absolutely everything, including the fact that trees don't take in oxygen or exude CO2, the tell you that one thing. I know that one thing, and thats all I need to say it. If everyone had to be omniscient to explain anything about their immediate surroundings, science would not exist whatsoever.
2. No they don't. They don't have an internal clock that reverses everything about how they work. CO2 in, O2 out. Always.

FYI, I believe that >50% and upwards of 80% of the oxygen is produced in the oceans/water by algae. Just saying.
most of Earth's oxygen is created by organisms in the oceans, but it's plankton not algae. This Wikipedia article has two sources for a range of estimates from 50% to 85% of the world's oxygen production.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoplankton#Oxygen_production (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoplankton#Oxygen_production)
Um FYI, phytoplankton are microalgae.
(http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/phyto.html (http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/phyto.html))

Algae is a general term of photosynthetic organisms, that includes phytoplankton:
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae))

From your quote "Phytoplankton are photosynthesizing microscopic organisms". But these are not the ONLY things in the oceans producing O2. Basically all "green" algae do - including seaweed.
(http://www.ecology.com/2011/09/12/important-organism/ (http://www.ecology.com/2011/09/12/important-organism/))
Oh, didn't know that. Tbh I didn't check that, had to go to work. I knew basically any green plant photosynthesizes but didn't know the taxonomy of phytoplankton and algae, thought those were separate things. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on May 04, 2016, 10:39:51 PM

1. No I don't. I don't need to know absolutely everything, including the fact that trees don't take in oxygen or exude CO2, the tell you that one thing. I know that one thing, and thats all I need to say it. If everyone had to be omniscient to explain anything about their immediate surroundings, science would not exist whatsoever.
2. No they don't. They don't have an internal clock that reverses everything about how they work. CO2 in, O2 out. Always.


Wot?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: NewtSmooth on May 05, 2016, 06:45:49 AM

1. No I don't. I don't need to know absolutely everything, including the fact that trees don't take in oxygen or exude CO2, the tell you that one thing. I know that one thing, and thats all I need to say it. If everyone had to be omniscient to explain anything about their immediate surroundings, science would not exist whatsoever.
2. No they don't. They don't have an internal clock that reverses everything about how they work. CO2 in, O2 out. Always.


Wot?
Need I repeat?
1. If people have to know everything about everything that exists to say something about how and why something exists, then nobody would ever be able to say anything about anything. People don't have to be able to see the entirety of the universe to be able to know what's right in front of their face.
2. That's right. There's nothing in a tree that reverses everything about them. Biologists have checked.
Not that complicated. [/list]
Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
Post by: tappet on May 05, 2016, 01:26:27 PM

    1. No I don't. I don't need to know absolutely everything, including the fact that trees don't take in oxygen or exude CO2, the tell you that one thing. I know that one thing, and thats all I need to say it. If everyone had to be omniscient to explain anything about their immediate surroundings, science would not exist whatsoever.
    2. No they don't. They don't have an internal clock that reverses everything about how they work. CO2 in, O2 out. Always.


    Wot?
    Need I repeat?
    1. If people have to know everything about everything that exists to say something about how and why something exists, then nobody would ever be able to say anything about anything. People don't have to be able to see the entirety of the universe to be able to know what's right in front of their face.
    2. That's right. There's nothing in a tree that reverses everything about them. Biologists have checked.
    Not that complicated. [/list]
    Sorry, last time I checked trees breathed, used, through respiration or whatever else you wanted call it take in oxygen of a night. But then, you did  say you dont need to know your stuff to educate people.
    Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
    Post by: NewtSmooth on May 05, 2016, 05:14:53 PM
      No I don't. I don't need to know absolutely everything, including the fact that trees don't take in oxygen or exude CO2, the tell you that one thing. I know that one thing, and thats all I need to say it. If everyone had to be omniscient to explain anything about their immediate surroundings, science would not exist whatsoever.
      Wot?
      If people have to know everything about everything that exists to say something about how and why something exists, then nobody would ever be able to say anything about anything. People don't have to be able to see the entirety of the universe to be able to know what's right in front of their face.
      Sorry, last time I checked trees breathed, used, through respiration or whatever else you wanted call it take in oxygen of a night. But then, you did  say you dont need to know your stuff to educate people.
      HAAAAAAAAAAAA. Honestly when did you ever actually check to see whether a plant was BREATHING?

      While you're digging through your brain trying to find the date and time of that non-existent event, you can stop twisting my words so much. You're not even paraphrasing here. If I positively know one fact, but don't know absolutely everything else, that doesn't mean I don't know that fact. If you're going to make a claim and "educate people", in that specific area you obviously absolutely have to know your stuff.

      But does an algebra teacher have to know what his third-cousin Ralph on the other side of the world is having for lunch next Wednesday for his students to understand polynomials? Does a medical school have to have flawless microeconomics models for their surgeons to not kill somebody? Or does a woodshop instructor have to know how many atoms there are in the universe to tell somebody how to not cut their thumb off? No. No. And no. If someone is going to teach someone else something, all they need to know is that what they're saying is accurate, and nothing else, to be teaching correctly. End of subject, it's not that complicated, I'm not going to say this again.

      Edit: I don't know where this [/list] marker is coming from and can't seem to make it go away. Edit 2: Adding that finally did it. Ugh.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: tappet on May 05, 2016, 10:58:59 PM
      "HAAAAAAAAAAAA. Honestly when did you ever actually check to see whether a plant was BREATHING?"


      https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=p0FwU53DLKqN8Qee4IDAAw#q=trees+breathe+oxygen+at+night (https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=p0FwU53DLKqN8Qee4IDAAw#q=trees+breathe+oxygen+at+night)
       ???
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: NewtSmooth on May 06, 2016, 05:59:54 AM
      "HAAAAAAAAAAAA. Honestly when did you ever actually check to see whether a plant was BREATHING?"


      https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=p0FwU53DLKqN8Qee4IDAAw#q=trees+breathe+oxygen+at+night (https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=p0FwU53DLKqN8Qee4IDAAw#q=trees+breathe+oxygen+at+night)
       ???
      That's ordinary metabolism? Still not breathing? They do that constantly, including during the day. Again, nothing about them really changes at night. No forward/reverse switch.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: tappet on May 06, 2016, 01:16:25 PM
      "HAAAAAAAAAAAA. Honestly when did you ever actually check to see whether a plant was BREATHING?"


      https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=p0FwU53DLKqN8Qee4IDAAw#q=trees+breathe+oxygen+at+night (https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=p0FwU53DLKqN8Qee4IDAAw#q=trees+breathe+oxygen+at+night)
       ???
      That's ordinary metabolism? Still not breathing? They do that constantly, including during the day. Again, nothing about them really changes at night. No forward/reverse switch.
      Look at you weasel your way out of your error!
      And  you are here to educate people on how the universe works.
      On the tree thing alone Donald would have to give you a fail.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: tappet on May 06, 2016, 01:20:58 PM

       CO2 in, O2 out. Always.


      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: NewtSmooth on May 06, 2016, 05:22:14 PM
      "HAAAAAAAAAAAA. Honestly when did you ever actually check to see whether a plant was BREATHING?"


      https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=p0FwU53DLKqN8Qee4IDAAw#q=trees+breathe+oxygen+at+night (https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=p0FwU53DLKqN8Qee4IDAAw#q=trees+breathe+oxygen+at+night)
       ???
      That's ordinary metabolism? Still not breathing? They do that constantly, including during the day. Again, nothing about them really changes at night. No forward/reverse switch.
      Look at you weasel your way out of your error!
      And  you are here to educate people on how the universe works.
      On the tree thing alone Donald would have to give you a fail.
      Alright, yes, I honestly did make a mistake there. Nobody likes being wrong and I did try to stretch it too much. I don't mean to justify my lapse of memory, as it really was a simple thing that I forgot, this is only why it happened. Part of it is that nobody's perfect. Also, my frustration I entirely forgot cellular metabolism when you made your flippant remark of
      Now you are talking about tree's? Next you will be telling me I need tree's to breath!
      to deflect attention from your obviously false belief that rain falls above clouds and lack of trust in human observation in a visually verifiable situation and after you actually claimed that people have to know everything about the universe to know anything at all. Your complete lack of skill in putting together a basic sentence, as evidenced in those following posts, only added to my frustration.

      You see, psychology has established a link between impaired cognitive ability and various things like drunkenness and sleep deprivation, but also exposure to idiots and hypocrites.

      Let me assure you again I still don't mean to justify. But to consistently ignore a thread where FET has actually been proven wrong is a cowardly, idiotic way to weasel one's way out of their error, and even more so is to resort to attacking the character of the messenger, yet this is what is always the result here, where claims abound that history and reknowned scientists employed similar tactics to despicable manipulate our view  of the world itself; and few things are more idiotic than believing most rain comes from above a storm cloud, looking above a storm cloud, yet still choosing to believe it after existing on this Earth for years and having a picture of the event right in front of one's eyes while saying that. Anyone other than this Donald would give that a fail, and yet you would portray me as the weasel, unfit to teach because of
      the tree thing alone

      In all honesty I still don't mean to justify forgetting that, I'll probably never live that down. But I hope now my situation is more understandable and relatable, yes?

      Edit: formatting.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: tappet on May 07, 2016, 04:11:36 AM
      I accept your apology, but back to the tree thing. Firstly a REer brought trees into the debate, then I questioned whether we really need them to breathe. Another REer confirmed my beliefs saying 80% of oxygen comes from algae, but then you arrived babbling all sorts of nonsense. Now I am going to question why we need to carry on with this world wide tree planting charade and you are going to tell me why I am not as intelligent as you and that we all have to plant trees.
      I look forward to your next reply, good luck.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: NewtSmooth on May 07, 2016, 07:10:18 AM
      I accept your apology, but back to the tree thing. Firstly a REer brought trees into the debate,

      No. Here's that REer's post. You can see that he was using them as an illustration of the point that if you can clearly and obviously observe that something isn't true, there is no reason to believe it.
      Because it is and has been proved as complete nonsense by not only the picture I have posted, but by the experiences of anyone who has ever seen rain fall from a cloud, which I postulate is around 99.99999% of mankind. It was off to a non-start.

      Have you seen rain fall from a cloud? Do you think that rain is independent of clouds and falls from the firmament? If I told you that trees didn't actually grow from the ground, but grew from an invisible substance a metre above the ground would you think that was a sensible suggestion? Or would the fact that you can actually see them growing from the ground make my suggestion "complete nonsense"? Ask yourself these questions Tappet.

      then I questioned whether we really need them to breathe.

      Again pretty flippant. It implied richaddis was saying something nonsensical, when really he was only informing you on why you shouldn't believe something nonsensical.

      Another REer confirmed my beliefs saying 80% of oxygen comes from algae, but then you arrived babbling all sorts of nonsense.

      Yep. Most oxygen does come from algae and trees do still metabolize. Both true there.

      Now I am going to question why we need to carry on with this world wide tree planting charade (1) and you are going to tell me why I am not as intelligent as you (2) and that we all have to plant trees. (3)
      I look forward to your next reply, good luck. (4)
      (1) Because the trees are important for more than just some of our oxygen production. Do you have any idea how many of the world's ecosystems are reliant on trees? If there were no trees anymore there would be a mass extinction event
      (2) You had a rough time even understanding the natures of knowledge and observation. Those speak for themselves here.
      (3) Most people don't want the global extinctions mentioned in (1) to occur.
      (4) Typical FE conviction that nobody can answer them and they need that luck. Please step down off your pedestal, you might hurt yourself.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: Jadyyn on May 07, 2016, 08:11:47 AM
      I accept your apology, but back to the tree thing. Firstly a REer brought trees into the debate, then I questioned whether we really need them to breathe. Another REer confirmed my beliefs saying 80% of oxygen comes from algae, but then you arrived babbling all sorts of nonsense. Now I am going to question why we need to carry on with this world wide tree planting charade and you are going to tell me why I am not as intelligent as you and that we all have to plant trees.
      I look forward to your next reply, good luck.
      My cut on this is safety. We now have the capacity to destroy life on a global scale. The Japanese Fukushima atomic accident polluted most of the Pacific ocean to a lesser or greater degree.
      (http://thetruthwins.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Fukushima-Contamination-Pacific-Ocean.jpg)
      If the oceans go, we may be relying on that ~20%+ trees (notice the GREEN stuff on the image above) to survive until the oceans clean themselves. Radioactive half-life of cesium 137 is like 30 years (Plutonium ~80+, Uranium MUCH longer). So every 30 years or so, HALF the radioactivity remains. It would take several CENTURIES, MILLINIA or even never as far as we are concerned, to clean up any nuclear accident - just look a Chernobyl and the surrounding area. (http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/08/radiation-will-pollute-area-around.html (http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/08/radiation-will-pollute-area-around.html))

      BTW, Biblically - Rev 8:8-9 - "Then the second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned to blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed." Not good especially if it is the algae. This could mean a nuclear accident or intentional nuclear bombing (because of the ships).
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: tappet on May 07, 2016, 03:06:11 PM
      [1) Because the trees are important for more than just some of our oxygen production. Do you have any idea how many of the world's ecosystems are reliant on trees? If there were no trees anymore there would be a mass extinction event
      Thats cute, we will be fine. There are more trees on earth now than ever.
      Although, you probably still think Mongolia and the Great Plains need replanting.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: NewtSmooth on May 07, 2016, 08:45:19 PM
      [1) Because the trees are important for more than just some of our oxygen production. Do you have any idea how many of the world's ecosystems are reliant on trees? If there were no trees anymore there would be a mass extinction event
      Thats cute, we will be fine. There are more trees on earth now than ever.
      Although, you probably still think Mongolia and the Great Plains need replanting.
      I don't know about about Mongolia in detail so I won't go into that.
      In the Great Plains, it's important to replant around fields to prevent erosion while fields aren't planted. Anyone who knows anything about agriculture would tell you that.

      If you ever stop cherry-picking facts to unempirically support your ignorance, maybe try reading about the number of species unique to the Amazon and its rate of deforestation, along with the other effects of this like the more feral ones losing their habitats and prowling human inhabited areas instead.

      In virtually every deforested region there's strong motives for reforestation. Maybe before you call others stupid and unreasonable, you could pick up a book.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: tappet on May 08, 2016, 01:10:12 AM

      In virtually every deforested region there's strong motives for reforestation. Maybe before you call others stupid and unreasonable, you could pick up a book.
      Tell me who deforested the Great Plains? I looked in a book but found nothing.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: Jadyyn on May 08, 2016, 06:11:48 AM
      [1) Because the trees are important for more than just some of our oxygen production. Do you have any idea how many of the world's ecosystems are reliant on trees? If there were no trees anymore there would be a mass extinction event
      That's cute, we will be fine. There are more trees on earth now than ever.
      Although, you probably still think Mongolia and the Great Plains need replanting.
      1) I am sick and tired of people that do stupid things and say "I'm sorry" or "help me! because I am an idiot". You don't care about these NOW because you don't have to. If only YOU die, big deal - no big loss. If EVERYONE on the planet dies, that IS a big deal.
      2) The "green life" on land is arguably much easier to kill than in the oceans. The oceans are like 75% of the Earth. Whatever affects them would have to be BIG and last for a VERY LONG time. On land, everything like a forest fire (see the one in Canada ATM) or a drought (see "the Great Dust Bowl) can deforest a location VERY quickly. It will then take YEARS to replace the plant life.
      3) Farming also would cause problems because (a) periodically, these BIG plants (like corn) would be cut down reducing the oxygen they produce until they regrow and (b) there would be competition of oxygen vs food.
      4) IF we were to be relying solely on land plants for oxygen, we could be wiped off the Earth at just about any time.
      5) Finally, as algae is THE bottom of the food chain in the oceans/lakes, if it disappeared, most likely ALL sea life (shrimp, fish, whales, etc.) would die. So, we would TOTALLY rely on land plants and animals for food increasing the need for plants. Animals and people rely on plants for food and oxygen.
      6) Anyways, IMO, who cares what you think. Obviously, you are in the group of people that don't care about humanity (its survival). I had another link about "killer asteroids" that FEers don't believe in because, hey, the sky is only a couple thousand miles up. Someone one else had the same total disregard for protection from them as you do about trees. Oh, well.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: NewtSmooth on May 08, 2016, 06:51:18 AM
      In virtually every deforested region there's strong motives for reforestation. Maybe before you call others stupid and unreasonable, you could pick up a book.
      Tell me who deforested the Great Plains? I looked in a book but found nothing.
      Oops, mixed Great Plains with Midwest. Where I live there actually has been significant deforestation, and even in the actual Great Plains some farmers do still plant trees at field borders even though there were formerly no trees there. The reason they do this isn't because they deforested it but because they've stripped the land of grasses so they can farm it, so they need to block out some of the wind to keep the soil from blowing away when the field isn't planted. If you've never heard of this, try "Dust Bowl". So there's still reasons to reforest even without deforestation.

      Given that OP's been authoritatively disproven already, that this is completely unrelated to the OP or flat earth in general, and
      6) Anyways, IMO, who cares what you think. Obviously, you are in the group of people that don't care about humanity (its survival). I had another link about "killer asteroids" that FEers don't believe in because, hey, the sky is only a couple thousand miles up. Someone one else had the same total disregard for protection from them as you do about trees. Oh, well.
      I'm going to leave this discussion because it's getting ridiculous and I'm simply tired of arguing about why we need trees.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: tappet on May 08, 2016, 02:13:05 PM


      Given that OP's been authoritatively disproven already, that this is completely unrelated to the OP or flat earth in general, and
      6) Anyways, IMO, who cares what you think. Obviously, you are in the group of people that don't care about humanity (its survival). I had another link about "killer asteroids" that FEers don't believe in because, hey, the sky is only a couple thousand miles up. Someone one else had the same total disregard for protection from them as you do about trees. Oh, well.
      I'm going to leave this discussion because it's getting ridiculous and I'm simply tired of arguing about why we need trees.
      Probably best you did leave,  for the tree discussion is related to the OP and FE. We had not gotten there yet.
      But never mind, you and your mate can get back to fantasy stuff now with "killer asteroids" and destruction of the planet senarios. I have seen it all before, shit, I rember back in the 70's when India was going to nuke the world, peak oil and even the early 80's Nasa flying contraptions to far away planets sending back pictures with shadows of Alien craft that will shock the world.
      On a leaving note, quick question. How did they dig up the millions of tree stumps after the deforestation for the millions of acres of farms in the 1800's?
      Was it done like this?
      (http://)
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: NewtSmooth on May 08, 2016, 03:05:15 PM
      On a leaving note, quick question. How did they dig up the millions of tree stumps after the deforestation for the millions of acres of farms in the 1800's?
      Was it done like this?
      (http://)
      I presume a more efficient method, like tilling because they'd have to anyway [nb]Tilling is an agricultural method of preparing soil by overturning.[/nb] and to prevent grasses from lighting much, [nb]Neither grass nor soil are present in tree stumps, so tilling a tree stump will not be very efficient, especially if targeting brush fire risks, as stated.[/nb] then setting the stumps on fire. They wouldn't have had to tend to the stumps much afterwards, the field is already tilled, and there's free fertilizer in the hole.

      Goodbye. [nb]I'll actually probably never leave and end up dying in this thread. I hope I'll have the sense to quit trying to talk sense into someone who doesn't understand what implications are, though.[/nb]

      Edit: Footnotes [1] and [2] added for any who failed to grasp the simple logic behind my conjecture, and [3] to add more information on my (tragically) continued entrapment in this ignorant, spammy, trolled, godforsaken thread.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: tappet on May 08, 2016, 03:20:09 PM
      On a leaving note, quick question. How did they dig up the millions of tree stumps after the deforestation for the millions of acres of farms in the 1800's?
      Was it done like this?
      (http://)
      I presume a more efficient method, like tilling because they'd have to anyway and to prevent grasses from lighting much, then setting the stumps on fire. They wouldn't have had to tend to the stumps much afterwards, the field is already tilled, and there's free fertilizer in the hole.

      Goodbye.
      You can not till tree stumps.
      Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
      But feel free to tell me about destruction of the "planet" again. It is very entertaining.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: CaptainMagpie on May 08, 2016, 04:10:52 PM
      On a leaving note, quick question. How did they dig up the millions of tree stumps after the deforestation for the millions of acres of farms in the 1800's?
      Was it done like this?
      (http://)
      I presume a more efficient method, like tilling because they'd have to anyway and to prevent grasses from lighting much, then setting the stumps on fire. They wouldn't have had to tend to the stumps much afterwards, the field is already tilled, and there's free fertilizer in the hole.

      Goodbye.
      You can not till tree stumps.
      Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
      But feel free to tell me about destruction of the "planet" again. It is very entertaining.
      Lacking proper agriculture and farming knowledge does not equate to knowing about the world around you. Nice try though.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: tappet on May 08, 2016, 04:21:14 PM
      On a leaving note, quick question. How did they dig up the millions of tree stumps after the deforestation for the millions of acres of farms in the 1800's?
      Was it done like this?
      (http://)
      I presume a more efficient method, like tilling because they'd have to anyway and to prevent grasses from lighting much, then setting the stumps on fire. They wouldn't have had to tend to the stumps much afterwards, the field is already tilled, and there's free fertilizer in the hole.

      Goodbye.
      You can not till tree stumps.
      Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
      But feel free to tell me about destruction of the "planet" again. It is very entertaining.
      Lacking proper agriculture and farming knowledge does not equate to knowing about the world around you. Nice try though.
      Of coase it does! You need to have solid foundations if you are going to educate people.
      If you live on a planet you need deforestation. Who pulled the stumps out?
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: rabinoz on May 08, 2016, 04:50:30 PM
      On a leaving note, quick question. How did they dig up the millions of tree stumps after the deforestation for the millions of acres of farms in the 1800's?
      Was it done like this?
      (http://)
      I presume a more efficient method, like tilling because they'd have to anyway and to prevent grasses from lighting much, then setting the stumps on fire. They wouldn't have had to tend to the stumps much afterwards, the field is already tilled, and there's free fertilizer in the hole.

      Goodbye.
      You can not till tree stumps.
      Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
      But feel free to tell me about destruction of the "planet" again. It is very entertaining.
      Lacking proper agriculture and farming knowledge does not equate to knowing about the world around you. Nice try though.
      Of coase it does! You need to have solid foundations if you are going to educate people.
      If you live on a planet you need deforestation. Who pulled the stumps out?

      I have been following this interchange a bit and was hoping something related to the OP might come up - no such luck!
      I jsut wondered what all the trees had to do with "Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect".

      Maybe some people can't see the "forest for the trees"?
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: Rayzor on May 08, 2016, 06:48:53 PM
      On a leaving note, quick question. How did they dig up the millions of tree stumps after the deforestation for the millions of acres of farms in the 1800's?
      Was it done like this?
      (http://)
      I presume a more efficient method, like tilling because they'd have to anyway and to prevent grasses from lighting much, then setting the stumps on fire. They wouldn't have had to tend to the stumps much afterwards, the field is already tilled, and there's free fertilizer in the hole.

      Goodbye.
      You can not till tree stumps.
      Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
      But feel free to tell me about destruction of the "planet" again. It is very entertaining.

      You forgot  about the "Stump Jump Plough"   a famous Australian invention.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stump-jump_plough (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stump-jump_plough)

      While on the topic,  did anyone ask Intikam how come we get rain at night..  If rain is caused by the sun melting the firmament,  it couldn't ever rain at night.  :)

      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: NewtSmooth on May 08, 2016, 06:58:23 PM
      While on the topic,  did anyone ask Intikam how come we get rain at night..  If rain is caused by the sun melting the firmament,  it couldn't ever rain at night.  :)

      Yeppers  ;)

      OP's explanation would have us believe that the sky has a firmament of ice, and the presence of the sun melts the ice to create rain. This would naturally make the following true:
      1. Either clouds or rain or both are always forming during the day.
      2. Neither clouds nor rain are ever forming at night.
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: tappet on May 08, 2016, 08:33:52 PM


      Maybe some people can't see the "forest for the trees"?
      Well said, but seriously you gotta stop putting Rayzor and Rabinoz in the same thread
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: rabinoz on May 08, 2016, 09:17:26 PM


      Maybe some people can't see the "forest for the trees"?
      Well said, but seriously you gotta stop putting Rayzor and Rabinoz in the same thread
      I wasn't really directing my post you. At least Rayzor and NewtSmooth have some on-topic posts.
      Sorry I aimed at you!
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: Son of Orospu on May 09, 2016, 03:07:47 AM
      On a leaving note, quick question. How did they dig up the millions of tree stumps after the deforestation for the millions of acres of farms in the 1800's?
      Was it done like this?
      (http://)
      I presume a more efficient method, like tilling because they'd have to anyway and to prevent grasses from lighting much, then setting the stumps on fire. They wouldn't have had to tend to the stumps much afterwards, the field is already tilled, and there's free fertilizer in the hole.

      Goodbye.
      You can not till tree stumps.
      Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
      But feel free to tell me about destruction of the "planet" again. It is very entertaining.

      You forgot  about the "Stump Jump Plough"   a famous Australian invention.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stump-jump_plough (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stump-jump_plough)

      While on the topic,  did anyone ask Intikam how come we get rain at night..  If rain is caused by the sun melting the firmament,  it couldn't ever rain at night.  :)



      I think Intikam got mad because he received a short ban.  After all of his research, study, and analysis, us ungrateful fellow FE'ers banned him for his antisemitic ramblings, so he took his ball and went home. 
      Title: Re: Flat Earth Proof: Rain comes from sky and clouds just an evaporation effect
      Post by: richaddis on May 09, 2016, 01:40:33 PM
      On a leaving note, quick question. How did they dig up the millions of tree stumps after the deforestation for the millions of acres of farms in the 1800's?
      Was it done like this?
      (http://)
      I presume a more efficient method, like tilling because they'd have to anyway and to prevent grasses from lighting much, then setting the stumps on fire. They wouldn't have had to tend to the stumps much afterwards, the field is already tilled, and there's free fertilizer in the hole.

      Goodbye.
      You can not till tree stumps.
      Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
      But feel free to tell me about destruction of the "planet" again. It is very entertaining.

      You forgot  about the "Stump Jump Plough"   a famous Australian invention.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stump-jump_plough (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stump-jump_plough)

      While on the topic,  did anyone ask Intikam how come we get rain at night..  If rain is caused by the sun melting the firmament,  it couldn't ever rain at night.  :)



      I think Intikam got mad because he received a short ban.  After all of his research, study, and analysis, us ungrateful fellow FE'ers banned him for his antisemitic ramblings, so he took his ball and went home.

      Īntikam is peddling his usual drivel at an other Flat Earth forum