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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Trump didn't do it
« on: January 14, 2021, 10:13:17 AM »
Stop fibbing. Trump didn't say anything to incite violence. If he did, those quotes would be played repeatedly on CNN. They are not doing so because they don't exist. Quote him directly.

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Flat Earth Believers / Empirical Evidence for Universal Acceleration
« on: August 29, 2020, 08:21:07 PM »
There are still Flat Earth theories going around which speculate that there is some phenomena which pulls or pushes objects towards the ground. Electromagnetism, Aether, and Buoyancy FE gravity theories all propose that that the Earth is stationary and that there is a phenomenon which accelerates bodies through space down towards the surface of the Earth. All of the alternatives theories have a stationary Earth and some kind of phenomenon which accelerates bodies towards it.

Empirical evidence for the upwards acceleration of the Earth can be found in an accelerometer. An accelerator is a simple device which provides a fundamental truth. This device detects acceleration on its internal springs or components. When an accelerometer is accelerated through space it will be able to feel and detect that acceleration.

An accelerometer in a jet can detect when the jet accelerates at 1g:



It stands that if there is some phenomena pushing or pulling objects through space towards the Earth then, like the accelerometer in the jet, an accelerometer should feel itself being accelerated though space and towards the Earth while it is in free fall. However, the truth is that when an accelerometer is in free fall it feels no acceleration.

From a paper by an RE'er - http://gravityprobe.org/GravityProbe%20Links/Galileo-Undone-Mar-10-2020.pdf





There is no acceleration detected by the accelerometer in free-fall because the body in free fall is not accelerating. The Earth is accelerating upwards into the bodies. Any theory of gravity which physically accelerates bodies through space and towards the ground would necessarily cause the accelerometer to feel that acceleration. The fact that the accelerometer does not feel acceleration while in free fall is direct, empirical, and mechanical evidence against those theories.

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Flat Earth Believers / The Michelson-Gale-Pearson Experiment
« on: February 23, 2019, 01:09:49 PM »
I notice that some on this forum have dedicated their time to "explaining" the results of the Michelson-Gale-Pearson experiment which supposedly shows the earth is rotating. It is thought that this experiment needs to be explained and so fantasies about invisible swirling effects are invented.

However, these experiments really first need to be determined to be valid and researched further as to their details and results. Relying on the honesty of popular science factoids for truth is not acceptable.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Michelson-Gale-Pearson_Experiment

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The Michelson–Gale–Pearson experiment was a large-scale version of the Michelson-Morley Experiment and the Sagnac-Interferometer which attempted to measure the Sagnac Effect due to the rotation of the earth. It has been claimed that this experiment provided evidence for the earth's rotation.

From a work titled The Sagnac and Michelson-Gale-Pearson Experiments by Dr. Paulo N. Correa we read on p.5:

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" The outcome of the MGP experiment was ambiguous, though maybe no more ambiguous than the small persistent positive shift observed in MM experiments.  Composed of 269 separate tests with readings that varied from -0.04 to +0.55 of a fringe, and a mean at +0.26 fringes, the MGP experiment could be interpreted to yield a positive result of ≈ 0.3 km/s - therefore near the speed of the earth's rotation, but the result was of borderline significance.  It could be said that the experiment was inconclusive because it adduced neither proof that there was a shift in the phase of the light beams, nor that there wasn't one. "

Essentially the tests saw wild results. There was almost no change to light's velocity in one test, and then a lot of change in another test. It is perplexing that the rotation of the earth would start and stop when tested at different times. Only through the statistics was it claimed that the experiment saw the rotation of the earth. As stated above, the inconsistent results were ambiguous in nature and could offer no evidence of the shift in the phase of the light beams.

==Other Resources==

How to Lie with Statistics''' by Darrell Huff (Psychology Today Article)

==Related Articles==

Michelson-Morley Experiment
Sagnac Experiment
Ring Laser Gyroscope

Why should such inconsistent experiments need to be explained?

The same argument above with the rotation of the earth stopping and starting with each test could be asked of aether or whatever is used to try and explain it. Why should the aether start and stop? For those who believe that it is the earth spinning, why should the earth start and stop when tested at different times?

The MGP Experiment is a bad experiment. The results of an experiment needs to at least be consistent for a phenomenon, whether it be the spin of the earth or another one, to have validity. The fact that the experiment would show the earth almost still in one test and much faster than its supposed speed in another test is more evidence against than for.

In addendum: Stop trying to justify this trash experiment with fantasy phenomena.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Ruth Bader Ginsburg Dead?
« on: February 13, 2019, 06:57:36 PM »
Ruth Ginsburg has not been seen in public for 69 days.

"The last time she was seen was on December 6, 2018, when she heard arguments in person at the Court."

The Washington Post alleges that she was at some small event about her life earlier this month the day before the SOTU, but no one who attended recalls seeing her and there are no pictures of her attending. Either way, she may be dead now. If you go to searchquarry.com and search for her name and select death record, you will find a death record for her. See #26:

https://www.searchquarry.com/namesearch/results?trackstat=sqhmpag&recordtype=Death&fname=Ruth&lname=Ginsburg&city=&state=all



Ruth Ginsburg is 85 according to her Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg

Martin Ginsburg was her late husband: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_D._Ginsburg

Martin Ginsburg's age matches up, if he were still alive. If he was born on June 10, 1932, per his wiki article, he would be 86 years old. This is definitely her record. The location also matches up.

The website doesn't just create death records for everyone. Feel free to search for yourself.

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Flat Earth Believers / Does the Bible say that Earth is Stationary?
« on: February 09, 2019, 08:52:19 PM »
It is commonly asserted that scripture depicts an earth that is flat and motionless. While the number of references which suggest a flat earth are numerous and difficult to dispute, the number of passages which suggest a motionless earth are relatively few. A thorough assessment is provided. It is found that the motionless references are primarily sourced from round earth geocentrism, which creatively interprets select passages and ignores context to come up with a stationary and spherical earth.

There are three main passages which geocentrists champion and interpret for the stationary nature of the earth. The term “will not be moved” in those passages is found to be in the context of “will not totter” rather than in the context of “stationary” or “motionless”. The ancient languages of the scriptures are such that different translators interpret the words in different ways, and so it is important to cross-reference the other ways the word is used elsewhere in scripture, such as with a concordance reference.

Flat Earth Geocentrists provide further pieces of evidence in the form of mentions of the foundations and pillars of the earth. It is found that when the foundation and pillars are cross-referenced with other passages and references on meaning, that they do not exist in the forms alleged. The context of the terms do allow motion.

Indeed, there are several passages which suggest and indicate that the earth is in motion.

I have broken this analysis into fourteen sections:

NASB
Immovable, Motionless, and Stationary
Will Not Be Moved
Will Not Totter
The Foundation
Pillars of the Earth
Second Day of Creation
Earth over a Void
The Earth Stands
Never to Rise Again
The Way of All of the Earth
All Things Carried
The Earth Rises, The Wicked Fall
Earth Lifted by His Presence

Resource: The scriptural basis for a geocentric cosmology

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Here is a great collection of experiments which create a compelling argument that the earth is flat.


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Flat Earth YouTubers are continuing on with the "Controlled Opposition" nonsense.

Karen B recently posted a video attacking a random post made on this forum as an official stance of the FES:



Even the commenters on that video expose the narrative:

Quote from: Frequencies_Illuminated
The flat earth society says this? But even their logo has Australia on it 😲


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Suggestions & Concerns / No HTTPS on forums
« on: April 16, 2016, 10:14:36 AM »
I have a problem with these forums not being in HTTPS and my password going out in plain text. Some of us may use these passwords for other services.

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Flat Earth General / NASA owes us an apology for Werner Von Braun
« on: June 05, 2015, 09:36:08 PM »
I am double posting this from the tfes.org site. I am leading a campaign to demand a public apology from NASA for harboring the Nazi War Criminal Werner Von Braun. During the war he was a colonel in the SS and directly oversaw the slave labor camps which built the V2 ballistic rockets. Von braun was also a personal acquaintance of Hitler.

After the war Von Braun was brought to the US he was made director of the Marshall Space Flight Center and served as the chief architect of the Saturn V launch vehicle. His history was whitewashed and it is claimed he either that he knew nothing of the atrocities committed at Dora and Peenemünde or that he was powerless to stop it. He is portrayed in his NASA biography as a jolly scientist who resented the Nazis, was apolitical, and was only pursuing his life-long interest in rocketry.

This is, in fact, false.

A survivor's account from Wernher von Braun, the SS, and Concentration Camp Labor: Questions of Moral, Political, and Criminal Responsibility:
 
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Like the good Nazi he was, he immediately started shouting that it was
sabotage, when just at that point VON BRAUN arrived accompanied by
his usual group of people. Without even listening to my explanations, he
ordered the Meister to have me given 25 strokes in his presence by an SS
[man] who was there. Then judging the strokes weren't sufficiently hard,
he ordered that I be flogged more vigorously, and this order was then
diligently carried out, which caused much hilarity in the group, and
following this flogging, VON BRAUN made me translate that I deserved
much more, that in fact I deserved to be hanged, which certainly would be
the fate of the "Mensch" (good-for nothing) I was.

A quote from an article called  The Rocket Man’s Dark Side, published by TIME:

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Indeed, some 20,000 died at Dora, from illness, beatings, hangings and intolerable working conditions. Workers, scantily clad, were forced to stand at attention in the biting cold during roll calls that went on for hours. Average survival time in the unventilated paint shop was one month. One prisoner told of being bitten on his legs by guard dogs. Presumably to test the effectiveness of a new medication, one of his legs was treated, the other allowed to fester and deteriorate.

For reasons best known to von Braun, who held the rank of colonel in the dreaded Nazi SS, the prisoners were ordered to turn their backs whenever he came into view. Those caught stealing glances at him were hung. One survivor recalled that von Braun, after inspecting a rocket component, charged, "That is clear sabotage." His unquestioned judgment resulted in eleven men being hanged on the spot. Says Gehrels, "von Braun was directly involved in hangings."

Hangings were commonplace, and Dora inmates remember von Braun arriving in the morning with an unidentified woman, having to step between bodies of dead prisoners and under others still hanging from a crane. These were not ordinary hangings, Gehrels says, "not hanging that breaks the neck of the prisoner, but they were slowly choked to death with a kind of baling wire around their neck."

The above pieces are well researched and paint a bleak picture of Von Braun. Why couldn't NASA have taken the high road and focused on its own rocket scientists? Werner Von Braun should have been put in prison and sentenced to death as a war criminal, not made a director of NASA.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Why Obamacare is bad
« on: October 10, 2013, 11:03:40 AM »
1. Obamacare imposes unprecedented new permanent taxes, reaching $1 Trillion+ a year. TaxFoundation.org lists the many hidden taxes it imposes on Americans.

2. Users of Obamacare have no expectation to health privacy. Users are required to sign the following disclaimer when signing up for the exchange:

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"Users (authorized or unauthorized) have no explicit or implicit expectation of privacy. Any or all uses of this system and all files on the system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized state government and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign."

3. Obamacare penalizes marriage.

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Assume a 40-year old couple with two children: the husband makes $40,000 per year and the wife makes $30,000 per year. The wife’s employer does not offer coverage through work but the husband’s does. The husband’s company provides only self-only coverage and the employee only pays a small percentage of the total premium. This company would satisfy the criteria of the PPACA’s employer mandate provision even though they don’t offer family coverage. Since the husband has access to [employer sponsored insurance], the rest of the family is not eligible for the PPACA tax credits. The family would be faced with the decision of buying private coverage at an annual cost exceeding $10,000 for the mom and kids (unless the kids are covered by the state’s CHIP) or foregoing insurance and being forced to pay the tax penalty instituted by the health care law for individuals who lack health insurance. If the father and mother are unmarried, however, the woman and the two children would qualify for a tax credit of $10,895 to use to purchase a policy that would cost about $12,130.57. Because of the PPACA, marriage costs this family $10,895.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / An alternative to Obamacare
« on: October 01, 2013, 11:06:37 AM »
Why should the money I earn be taken from me and be given to people who didn't earn it? I don't see why I should be supporting people who choose in life to turn on the TV rather than open a book. I have health insurance because I was driven to educate myself and do what was necessary to get it.

The democrats seem intent robbing peter to pay paul. This is morally unjust for many reasons. They are doing it totally wrong. If these people wanted a true fix, they would go about it another way.

If a someone needs to pay for a medical condition which they cannot pay the democrats can help people in the same way they help people get college tuition they cannot pay: by starting a government-run bank and lending it to the them, not simply giving it to them. Perhaps they can call it the Obama Bank if so inclined. We've seen that the student loan system works, especially since the loans cannot be written off in bankruptcy.

Doing this would ensure that:

    - No one goes without treatment

    - No one is robbed

    - A loan is not welfare. People in recovery will pay it back or face standard penalties.

    - The government puts increased pressure on medical research (which is mostly government funded) to increase survivability rates

    - The government can give out loans in a standard 10:1 banking ratio, which has been shown to work. Every dollar that is paid back to the government means that 10 more can be lent out.

With our current knowledge that most medical procedures have low mortality rates, and that only a low number of people have serious low-survivable conditions like late stage cancers, such a system can be set up on the condition that the money lent out is blind to the condition.

In addition, if by some chance the numbers don't work out and that more people are racking up huge bills and dying, than the system can support, the standard loan amounts to be paid back can always be adjusted to include a shared overhead to cover those cases.

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Flat Earth General / Apollo Zero Movie
« on: September 28, 2013, 02:24:36 AM »
I recently came across a 1hr long movie called Apollo Zero. Many of the points are old hat to us who have been on the forums over the years, but I learned a few interesting points, such as how Bill Clinton doubted the moon landings in his autobiography. I also didn't realize that the astronauts profiteered off of their fame as they did, such as Buzz Aldrin selling the coins and papers from he had allegedly brought with him in his pockets for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

http://blip.tv/apollo-zero/apollo-zero-revisiting-the-manned-moon-landings-2397862

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / An argument against Gay Marriage
« on: July 23, 2013, 04:39:36 PM »
Gays are currently petitioning nation-wide for "equal rights". They want a piece of paper which recognizes their unon, as well as all of the tax and financial benifits, of which there are numerous.

However, gays are not equal. The lineage of a single married heterosexual couple can represent many millions of dollars in tax revenue for the government over time. So why should the government give out benefits to gays and people who choose not marry, producing nothing?

Receiving money and benefits from the government is not a "right". Sexual orientation is not a protected class. Heterosexuals are gven the benefits they receive because that behavior benefits the government by literally trillions of dollars a year. All government revenue is a direct result of heterosexual behavior.

Heterosexuals keep the government in business by producing tax payers. Homosexuals do not. Why is a behavior, which does not benefit the country as equally, deserving to be equally rewarded?

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Flat Earth General / Why is there a squirrel on Mars?
« on: May 30, 2013, 03:06:28 PM »
Some kind of rodent was found in one of the 'martian' images from the Curiosity rover.

#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rodent Guinea Pig Photographed on Mars

Looks like a squirrel to me.






Here is the source photo.

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Flat Earth General / NASA had faster-than-light radios in 1969
« on: May 12, 2013, 12:49:01 PM »
The moon is 350-400,000km away from earth, that is 1.25-1.4 light seconds. Yet the communications between earth and the "moon" have no perceivable delay. If they were really on the moon there would have been a delay of 2.5-2.8 seconds between Ground Control and the astronauts on the surface of the moon.

See this video: http://www.youtube.com/embed/J6Tku-CgNnI

There are two examples, first one has NASA replying to the astronauts, and the second example in the video has the astronauts replying to NASA. Both NASA and the astronauts reply to each other almost immediately, without delay.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Working hard != Success
« on: April 22, 2013, 01:25:23 PM »
It seems that a lot of people believe that managers and CEO’s are undeserving of the money they make because they are not working as hard for their paychecks as blue collar worker do. Somehow it's believed that working hard is a prerequisite for success.

But should a novice programmer make more money than an expert programmer simply because he needs to work a lot harder to write a script than an expert programmer does?

Should a woman who scrubs pots all day make as much as an accountant who sits at her desk crunching numbers?

Why is it unfair that the "1%" makes more money than the 99%? They are clearly simply smarter than everyone else. They bring more value to their clients and to society than a hamburger flipper does.

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The Lounge / Embarrassing bloopers
« on: April 12, 2013, 07:10:28 PM »
I just came across this article: Are Billionaires Just Smarter Than Everyone Else?

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About 45 percent of billionaires are in the top one percent of cognitive ability, the study states. Billionaires were generally smarter than Fortune 500 CEOs, where 38.6 percent were in the top 1 percent of brains. Senators ranked just below that, with 41 percent, along with federal judges 41 percent. Members of the House were less smart, with 21 percent.

...and CNBC writers rank somewhat below that, due to poor numerical skills.

What are your favorite bloopers?

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The Lounge / Resume Length
« on: April 10, 2013, 02:14:14 PM »
Why is it that teachers, colleges, recruiters, and virtually everyone I've met recommends to keep a resume down to one page, or two pages at most?

If you are hiring a doctor, would you rather hire a doctor with a 1 page resume, or would you rather hire a doctor with a 10 page resume?

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Flat Earth General / Apollo landing issues
« on: April 10, 2013, 06:55:30 AM »
According to many sources Apollo 11 overshot its landing spot by 4 miles:

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"Eagle approached its landing site with minimal forward and descent speeds, but it had already overshot the original target site by nearly four miles."

However, we learn from the Desert Moon Video on the Conspiracy section of our Wiki that NASA had already recreated a one mile square version landing spot down to every crater, prior to the launch:

Watch Desert Moon | The Flat Earth Society Episodes | Videos | Blip

When the astronauts left the moon they took a picture of the landing spot beneath them, which looks identical to the test version.

How did NASA know the Eagle would overshoot its landing spot?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Voting is a waste of time
« on: November 06, 2012, 10:14:06 AM »
Voting is a complete waste of time. What incentive do I have to vote if my vote is just going to be ripped up and deemed worthless?

In the United States the president isn't elected based on the popular vote, he is elected based on the electoral vote: a small exclusive group of people who are deemed worthy of casting a vote for the President of the United States. Delegates from the Electoral College aren't forced to vote the same way that their state votes. They can vote any way they please, which is why in 2000 Al Gore won the popular vote, but still lost the electoral vote.

So why should I bother voting at all?

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So far the Flat Earth podcasts have nothing to do with a Flat Earth, he never debates in the upper forums about FET, he doesn't contribute to the Wiki, and his tweets have nothing to do with FES what-so-ever. Here are his last three tweets, for example:

"Sitting across from a guy who looks like a cross between David Byrne and Hitler."

"The Helsinki airport is nice.. but not necessarily somewhere you want to spend 3 1/2 hours."

"Finnair flight was smooth and efficient but I think they designed the seats specifically to torture anyone over 6 feet tall."

People aren't coming to the Flat Earth Society to read that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / What's wrong with Mitt Romney?
« on: October 13, 2012, 12:19:21 AM »
Mitt Romney is using his campaign speeches to talk about the economy and jobs and Obama is too occupied with talking about Big Bird. From a brief Google search these are the criticisms I see posted against Romney:

- Romney was Pro-Choice 10 years ago, but is Pro-Life today. He's called a "flip-flopper". Is it such a crime to change your position after holding the office of Governor and having the opportunity to talk about the issues at length and becoming more educated about the issues?

- Romney wants to cut PBS and other government subsidies. Well, I agree with him. Anyone who believes we should continue borrowing from China to pay for children's television should be ashamed of themselves. Once we're able to pay our bills we can have such luxuries.

- Romney strapped his dog to the top of his car in a crate with a windshield and drove across state. Big deal. Dogs love fresh air.

- Romney is criticized for being Mormon like it is some kind of foreign cult. But Mormons follow the bible. It is about as different as Christians are from Catholics. The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints is the Mormon church.

- Romney is "too rich" to be president, as if that's a bad thing. If our president has already made it in life, then it's not likely that anyone can buy him off.

Is that all you got?

#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Mitt Romney: Introduction

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Did anyone watch the debate last night? Romney sweept the floor with Obama. It's like Obama didn't even show up.

#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">First Presidential Debate: Obama vs. Romney (Complete HD)

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Flat Earth General / Little Man, Big Door
« on: August 25, 2012, 01:09:31 PM »
I noticed something in two consecutive photos from Apollo 11.

In as11-40-5862 Buzz Aldrin is about to disembark from the Lunar Lander, and is right outside the doorway. He is small compared to the door:



Then in as11-40-5863, the immediate next photo, suddenly he seems to have grown enormously, filling up the entire doorway:



Click for bigger.

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Flat Earth General / NASA's Mars Missions are Fake
« on: June 26, 2012, 09:07:57 PM »
Look at the computer screens behind this NASA scientist. The martian skies are blue!

#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Real Mars Sky?

Here is a video showing how NASA faked the shots of its most recent rover missions (excuse the bad music):

#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NASA Mars expedition fraud

I believe the above evidence is particularly damning and demonstrates that the shots are fake and were really shot on earth in a desert somewhere.

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Flat Earth General / Strongest piece of evidence for a NASA hoax?
« on: June 20, 2012, 03:39:02 PM »
From the Conspiracy section on the Wiki, which piece of evidence do you believe is strongest?

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If you watch the Apollo videos NASA doesn't even put an appropriate delay between the astronauts and mission control to account for the moon's distance. The astronauts and Huston are communicating faster than the speed of light.



    "The Moon is 350-400,000km away from Earth, that is 1.25-1.4 Light Seconds. Yet the Communications Between Earth & The "Moon" have no Perceivable Delay. If they were really on the Moon there would have been a delay of 2.5-2.8 seconds between Ground Control and the Astronauts on the Surface of the Moon."

Apparently NASA astronauts are trained in the art of talking over other people. They know exactly what ground control is going to say, as they rehearsed so many times!!

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Flat Earth General / Astronauts wore sneakers on the Moon
« on: April 14, 2012, 05:49:52 PM »
In AS15-86-11670HR there is a sneaker print on the lunar surface.



High Res version from NASA's website: http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-86-11670HR.jpg

For the record, here's what the sole of the Apollo boots look like:



(Source)

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Money buys you food, a roof over your head, clothing, transportation, entertainment, it buys you an education, it provides for your family, it buys you health for when you are sick, it has the power to end life and the power to give it. We give up a vast majority of the time in our day - 8 hours or more, in pursuit of money. Who would spend their entire day trying to get something if it were not the most important thing in the world to them? Quite clearly, money is the terra and the firma of all earthly existence.

You go to college because you want a career with a good starting salary. You have more respect for a person with a good career than one who does not. We spend more time working than with our own families. We are willing to indenture ourselves to a lifetime of servitude in exchange for basic necessities.

Thork says it the best here:

I will make it more simple. In the 21st century slavery is abolished. That doesn't mean people aren't slaves. You can choose your master but you still have to work for someone rich. In return you will receive a wage that just about covers your living expenses. Rent/mortgage, food, clothing etc. all the things you could expect your master to supply as a slave. Some slave jobs pay better than others. You are a more cherished and useful slave and get larger accommodation and finer clothes, but you still have to work for someone. You live in a shitty box house, with your shitty little garden and look forward to 2 shitty weeks off in the summer. the free are those who own things. Companies, land, assets. They get slaves like you to work for them all week long. They spend their time playing golf, sailing yachts, bollocking people and spending more money than you can imagine. They do what they want. They don't work.

If you are born into a family that owns a supermarket chain, or a car factory, or 10,000 acres of farmland ... you were born free. You will inherit the right to do whatever you want. Pursue what ever you feel like, the money will just roll in. You own things, the slaves will earn money for you.

The only way to be free is to work for yourself. Set up your own company and get people to work for you. think about that next time you are at your crap job doing something you hate. Think about how free you are. Or when you are looking for a job, you are putting on the shackles and marching to the market waiting to be bonded into slavery and to top it off, its competitive, you are fighting each other for the best slave tasks.

Money hasn't meant freedom. Its just a form of slave credits. Its not like you own bricks of gold or farmland or anything of great physical worth. You are a slave. Wanna study for 4 years so that you can earn someone else more wealth?

How can anyone say that money is less important than love? Quite clearly, when our survival depends on it, and when all of our time is given away in pursuit of it, it is more important than all else.

How can anyone say that they are fine living on beans from paycheck to paycheck? Accidents and illnesses will happen, to both you and to your family. Money needs to be there for that. Your children will need day care, they will need a college education, and your parents will need nursing homes. You are expected to be a provider, and a good one.

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