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The Lounge / Re: A Friendly Chat
« Last post by Ski on Today at 11:49:29 AM »
OMG hi Ski! How have you been?

I have been tending my garden and asking myself, "What would Space Cowgirl do?"

(Okay, that is at least partly a lie, but well-meant)  :)
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The Lounge / Re: A Friendly Chat
« Last post by Space Cowgirl on Today at 06:12:27 AM »
OMG hi Ski! How have you been?
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Or the "tell me youre crazy without telling me youre crazy"
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: They've lied to the world about the stars
« Last post by turbonium2 on Today at 03:58:22 AM »
It certainly doesn’t support any of their claims whatsoever.

Every single video taken by all our telescopes, never at all support their claims of multiple distinct belts, nor their motionless feature on a motionless Saturn, either. Just the opposite, in fact, we always see it in constant motion, and you can call it due to an eternally acting effect if you want to, this is still seen as motion, which doesn’t support their claims or reports, in any way at all.

Look very closely at that video of Saturn taken by this telescope. Look specifically at the ‘belt’ in the middle.

Do you really believe that any degradation of Saturn is blurring multiple distinct belts into one blotchy belt in constant motion with changing edges on it all the time?

You would believe that what w see, will magically transform into multiple distinct belts when seen through this telescope? Do you think that’s what they saw by eye?
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They had a great problem when they first tried forming the flat Earth maps into a ball, taking its center point as their North Pole of their ball was easy, then went downward with the map. This worked fairly well at the northern parts, less and less well further down to the far southern parts, that’s why ships were lost in southern seas so often with ball Earth maps used for navigation.

For many years, they didn’t put in any continent on maps, just patches in white color, all about that area. It was extremely difficult for them to figure out what to put in there, so they just put in some patches of land covered over by snow and ice.

When they later decided that area will be an entire continent about the size of America, that was never before known to exist, until the late 1800’s and later on, Admiral Peary claimed to have discovered it as an actual continent for sure, it wasn’t known before that point as a continent.

Then he described his several expeditions of this unknown continent over the years, where they went to various points along its coast. They didn’t explore much inside of it, nor had time for longer explorations of it.

What he then said, was not supposed to be told to us for awhile later, maybe years later.

He was on a tv show at the time. And he said that this recently discovered continent nobody knew existed before, and he’d already said he’d had several expeditions to it….

Was about the size of continental America!!!

Nothing more than a few explorations of it had taken place at that point, supposedly.That would be reasonable when it’s never been explored before then, a few initial expeditions, that is quite reasonable and logical to say by that point.

But when he said they knew it’s whole size, and that it was about the size of America, he really botched it all up. That would be completely impossible to have known by a few expeditions to it.

This happens all the time when it’s all a lie.
 
The truth is just told as it is, there’s nothing to put into it as made up, no sequence of lies to follow along it, that’s why people goof it up all the time, give different stories of it which conflict with each of the other stories,

That was one very obvious indication it was all made up to be told over time, in a logical sequence.

This would be like first exploring the coast of Florida and New Jersey over a few spots, and knowing it’s entire size of from just that!!
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Or the maps are wrong.

then where in seven hells is the correct map? surely there must be a correct, to-scale map of the flat earth? if the earth was actually flat
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because the earth is globe. simple.

It so obviously isn’t but unfortunately you’re too brainwashed to see that.

the irony. regardless, it might not be obvious (depends on who we're talking about) but it is undoubtedly the truth. so I ask, if earth is not a globe, then what else? and how so? give me a reason, or you're free to argue with me in this thread https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=92326.0

and notice, how literally everyone here has given an explanation to the question, wrong or not, except for you. If you can't even answer this question, then on what grounds are we to believe your claims?
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well, I suppose youtube did make changes to the algorithm. after all, misinformation is bad for business. at the behest of congress or not, I don't know. although I suppose they have far more important things to do than think about the ravings of a cult.
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They knew that the Earth had to be fixed in position while all the stars and Sun and moon were cycling above the Earth, it is the only possible account for it.

When the Earth became under the rulers later on, that I believe are not of human soul, which is another issue entirely, so moving on, this group was in rule of the modern world at the time, because they gained so much more knowledge and they eventually gained control of the world by replacing barter and trade with a con using notes of paper they made up called money, and they controlled it, loaned it out to everyone else, and knew they’d never be able to pay it all back with something we didn’t need when we bartered and traded instead. Because barter and trade was to both sides as a benefit to them, and it is a fair system of economy. No side is in control, no side rakes more in from the other side, who has less from the exchange.

It’s yet another issue to move along now, but they took control of the world with money, for our food and shelter and all things we needed to survive required their fake paper notes that had no intrinsic value at all, unlike with the barter system.

Why would some people form into a group, and plan how to take over the world and rule over the world, because it is not a weird coincidence that most nations of Europe and others like Russia, all had kings who were brothers or same family, that is about as connected together as it can get!

Their main motive, is more than to rule and control the world. That was already done long ago, which leads up to what they really desire.

To become our Gods, to be worshipped as our Gods, our saviours, our truth tellers and our protectors against all harm beyond Earth.

They already knew that the world was flat, and that many people explored the entire world, and mapped the entire world, which was encircled by a border or Great Wall of ice, and beyond was a surface and treacherous conditions not to venture within.

The flat Earth didn’t fit their goal of becoming our Gods. It was proof of God as our creator, of the heavens above us, of the waters held above us in the firmament, which explains it being seen as blue, same as waters on Earth are blue.

These people who regarded the Earth as flat, were told of this by these explorers who had mapped the whole world and that’s why it was believed to be flat.

When these of one group, one lineage, who had gained vast knowledge and experience of those they wanted to rule over, slaughter one another in the millions by deception and trickery, whenever they wished it, were from their hatred of humanity.

Most of all, they hated God, and they wish to become our Gods of all our worship, trust, faith, and our saviour and protector against all evils or harms.

The first step was to destroy almost all flat Earth maps, and keep the rest in secret, to construct a ball Earth from, which is speeding through ‘space’ and so forth.

They realized they had an illusion that would work as ‘space’ that Earth was flying through, because they told us ‘space’ was endless.

They had maps of the flat Earth, which had a center point in the middle, which was magnetic, and we made instruments called compasses which were magnetic pointers to the center of Earth. And we knew the stars which guided those who navigated the waters of Earth, only one star above the center point of Earth, which never moved like all other stars did.

That’s where they started to form it into a ball, from the center point of the flat Earth.
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They knew that the Earth had to be fixed in position while all the stars and Sun and moon were cycling above the Earth, it is the only possible account for it.

When the Earth became under the rulers later on, that I believe are not of human soul, which is another issue entirely, so moving on, this group was in rule of the modern world at the time, because they gained so much more knowledge and they eventually gained control of the world by replacing barter and trade with a con using notes of paper they made up called money, and they controlled it, loaned it out to everyone else, and knew they’d never be able to pay it all back with something we didn’t need when we bartered and traded instead. Because barter and trade was to both sides as a benefit to them, and it is a fair system of economy. No side is in control, no side rakes more in from the other side, who has less from the exchange.

It’s yet another issue to move along now, but they took control of the world with money, for our food and shelter and all things we needed to survive required their fake paper notes that had no intrinsic value at all, unlike with the barter system.

Why would some people form into a group, and plan how to take over the world and rule over the world, because it is not a weird coincidence that most nations of Europe and others like Russia, all had kings who were brothers or same family, that is about as connected together as it can get!

Their main motive, is more than to rule and control the world. That was already done long ago, which leads up to what they really desire.

To become our Gods, to be worshipped as our Gods, our saviours, our truth tellers and our protectors against all harm beyond Earth.

They already knew that the world was flat, and that many people explored the entire world, and mapped the entire world, which was encircled by a border or Great Wall of ice, and beyond was a surface and treacherous conditions not to venture within.

The flat Earth didn’t fit their goal of becoming our Gods. It was proof of God as our creator, of the heavens above us, of the waters held above us in the firmament, which explains it being seen as blue, same as waters on Earth are blue.

These people who regarded the Earth as flat, were told of this by these explorers who had mapped the whole world and that’s why it was believed to be flat.

When these of one group, one lineage, who had gained vast knowledge and experience of those they wanted to rule over, slaughter one another in the millions by deception and trickery, whenever they wished it, were from their hatred of humanity.

Most of all, they hated God, and they wish to become our Gods of all our worship, trust, faith, and our saviour and protector against all evils or harms.

The first step was to destroy almost all flat Earth maps, and keep the rest in secret, to construct a ball Earth from, which is speeding through ‘space’ and so forth.

They realized they had an illusion that would work as ‘space’ that Earth was flying through, because they told us ‘space’ was endless.

They had maps of the flat Earth, which had a center point in the middle, which was magnetic, and we made instruments called compasses which were magnetic pointers to the center of Earth. And we knew the stars which guided those who navigated the waters of Earth, only one star above the center point of Earth, which never moved like all other stars did.

That’s where they started to form it into a ball, from the center point of the flat Earth.

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