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We have a place for FE to talk about things among themselves, yes. It's fine as it is. I don't understand what you are suggesting.

The forum is also inviting the public to come and debate against us. "Come debate the Flat Earthers!" is advertised to the world, to which we are expected to go and debate. Why can't we set rules for the debate we are essentially forced to participate in? The FE never signed up for, or voted for, 24/7 debates against the public. We just want the debates to stay on topic, good quality, and non-insulting.

That will either require you to become much more strict with moderation, or we can opt for something like a post-approval mode and adjust the parameters to make it work.

I don't see what you want from us. You are demanding that FE participates in an endless, rule-less debate that they did not ask for or agree to. How is that fair?

How is asking for on-topic and non-insulting debates an unreasonable request? This is something that the website is forcing upon us to participate in, and so we should have some say. There are other boards on this forum to have unrestricted discussions on things. If you are forcing a group of people to debate there has to be sanity to it.

Boo-hoo that they might get few posts in a thread a day, as their post is approved for basic sanity, while I have to be attacked by the world in a debate that we never agreed to.
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How will posting more content in the Believers Forum fix that?
You are aware the rab and JB, the very posters Sandokhan takes issue with, are not able to post in FE Believers right? And the description for that board is quite literally "A board for debate and discussion among Flat Earth Believers." If FE believers are looking for a space to discuss and debate their own FE model without interference from anyone of an RE persuasion, that is quite literally the place that has been carved out for that kind of interaction.

It has nothing to do with posting more content in any particular section. It has everything to do with actually using a particular section for its intended purpose.
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MetaBunk doesn't allow guests to post. I don't know where you are getting your information from. When I made an account there I made a post on the FE board, which was pending and approved. There was slight disappointment since the website didn't warn me about it beforehand. But we can warn our uses. Once it went into pending I was able to edit and strengthen my argument. The next day I saw that my post had been published and I got some replies. I then made replies, and those posts once again went into pending state. I again went back and edited and strengthened my replies. Slightly inconvenient, but it worked to help me build a better case.




I don't see a "post as guest" feature on that website. Do you?

Perhaps at one point they were weighing and testing different ways to balance moderation, while keeping things lenient enough, and so should we. We have our own situation. The delay is not bad. It's just different. It's writing a letter versus chatting in a chat room. There are pros and cons. The parameters on what works and what does not work can always be changed, as we see MetaBunk changing theirs.

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Please explain why you are so unwilling to use the Believers board for discussion between FE when it is actually built in such a way to accommodate exactly what has been asked for so far in this thread.

The problem isn't with the Believers Forum. The problem is with the incessant trolling, spam and off topic content in normal debate. How will posting more content in the Believers Forum fix that? If I agree with Sandokhan on something will all the spam stop?

The only way to fix the problem on the forums is with actual moderation, and I have suggested a very easy and passive way to do it, since there is a problem with banning people.

Sandokhan suggested applying this only to the troublesome users, which you object to out of fairness. I think his idea would alternatively work, and is also a good idea.

How would you suggest to fix the real problems with the forums?
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The Lounge / Re: Forget Heiwas Nespresso!
« Last post by Shifter on Today at 04:58:37 PM »
How much filtering does the remineralization step do?

https://www.wellness.com.au/drinking-water/reverse-osmosis

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The Series 9 PRO has four dedicated volcanic mineral energisation and pH boosting cartridges. These post-treatment cartridges add minerals and raise pH to an alkaline state bringing what was once tasteless and lifeless R/O water back to life.

Warm fuzzy words aside, it adds back a little calcium and magnesium. I can bypass it and take it straight from the RO tank, but drinking it is unpleasant and not refreshing. It's also not very nice for coffee being flat and acidic (and a coffee drink is nearly 99% water afterall)
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Which one is entitle to be the Joke of the century?

1. People keep using phytagorean theorem for ages, BUT.. Not Verifying Phytagoras Theorem.

2  People keep using trigonometry for ages, BUT.. Not Verifying Trigonometry

3. People keep using Pi for ages, BUT.. Not Verifying Pi.

4. Danang for thinking that Pythagorean theorem, trigonometry and pi have not been verified for ages.


Fixed that because you left out the obvious choice.

More generally:

4. People who think verifying something means watching youtube videos, desperately trying to find an instance that gives the answer they want (even where you can clearly see that it's been screwed up), and ignoring all the examples where it's been done carefully.  Then smugly declaring their complete lack of observational and critical thinking skills is "doing proper science".
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Imagine a situation where the posts in the debate forum are only approved once every couple of days.
I am imagining that. I don't think it sounds like an enhancement.

I can imagine where the enhancement would be. Would I be wrong to say that if there was a delay on your post there that perhaps we would have seen a more thorough statement?
A more thorough statement isn't required to state that your request is a detriment to the community rather than an enhancement. Slowing down the rate at which people can converse will only harm the community at large. Further, your description about how Metabunk works is ill-informed at best, and deceptive at worst, because they only moderate posts in the way you described for guests and first time posters. So let's not spend our time discussing how we can make this forum less active.

Why can't anyone actually address the issue below in a meaningful way?

Please explain why you are so unwilling to use the Believers board for discussion between FE when it is actually built in such a way to accommodate exactly what has been asked for so far in this thread.
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Which one is entitle to be the Joke of the century?

1. People keep using phytagorean theorem for ages, BUT.. Not Verifying Phytagoras Theorem.

2  People keep using trigonometry for ages, BUT.. Not Verifying Trigonometry

3. People keep using Pi for ages, BUT.. Not Verifying Pi.


So, what evidence for your claim that Pythagoras' Theorem was never verified?

Mike
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The Lounge / Re: Forget Heiwas Nespresso!
« Last post by Space Cowgirl on Today at 04:38:36 PM »
That is a fancy coffee maker.
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The Lounge / Re: Forget Heiwas Nespresso!
« Last post by sokarul on Today at 04:11:05 PM »
How much filtering does the remineralization step do?
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