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The nursing home my stepfather lives in made the news!  :(

Eek!

I'm still wearing my mask, pretty much everyone else I see are still wearing theirs, got given free ones on the train the other day as it was extra required to wear them in ekstra class, going to stick them in the kids' memory boxes. It has been nice catching less colds the past year (not cold free entirely, because children don't wear masks and then they pass their disgusting germs onto me)
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The nursing home my stepfather lives in made the news!  :(
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: FE map with scale
« Last post by robinofloxley on Today at 08:14:46 AM »
But how about this, considering you want a quote, how about you try providing a direct quote from OSM stating that the .osm file is a map.
In fact, here is a quote from their wiki:
"The major tools in the OSM universe use an XML format following a XML schema definition that was first used by the API only. Basically it is a list of instances of our data primitives (nodes, ways, and relations)."
Notice how they describe it as a "list of instances", not as a map. -

If you look on their help forum, you have someone just as helpful as you:
"Strictly speaking, you haven't download a "map", just the raw data that something can create a map from. A .osm file is a text file, so if you open it in a text editor you'll see the raw data. Most programs that "do things with OSM data" can read .osm files, but which of those you'd use depend on whether you want to view the data, edit it, or create some sort of map from it and then view that." - https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/30178/how-do-i-openview-the-map-which-is-in-osm-file-format-exported-area
That sure sounds like your argument against GeoNames.

Excellent clarification. OK happy to change my mind, if they say it's not a map, I'll go with that, OSM export is not a map. I am not at all familiar with the format, I just went with first impressions and called it a map, I was clearly wrong, my mistake. Happy to accept that it isn't a map.

Ah, but you can make a map with it. Hmm. Is it possible then that something which contains geotagged features and can be used to make a map is not itself classified as a map? Apparently so.
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The Lounge / Re: Jamie Out
« Last post by Colonel Gaydafi on Today at 08:13:18 AM »
Hey queen gay, you still married or can we get it on?

Ah narcypants, its been a long time
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: FE map with scale
« Last post by robinofloxley on Today at 08:06:30 AM »
Is a tree a forest?
Is a large, densely packed collection of trees a forest? Or does someone need to stick up a sign saying forest for it to be accepted as one?

Is my local lumbermill a forest because it has a densely packed collection of trees?

Will they still make a noise if one falls off the logging truck?

Can you still see the forest if you can't see the trees?

I need to know.

(Fetches popcorn)

Good luck
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: FE map with scale
« Last post by JJA on Today at 07:38:59 AM »
Is a tree a forest?
Is a large, densely packed collection of trees a forest? Or does someone need to stick up a sign saying forest for it to be accepted as one?

Is my local lumbermill a forest because it has a densely packed collection of trees?

Will they still make a noise if one falls off the logging truck?

Can you still see the forest if you can't see the trees?

I need to know.
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Bullcrap! I do not share my unicorns! >:(

Yes you can learn from others WHAT !...hell man get real that is the MAIN way of learning. How often have you in reality learned things totally on your own?

it beggars belief the display of ignorance around here. People who know squat all about things pontificating on how easy they are to use basing their opinion on ignorance alone. When it comes to Photoshop, thats utter bollocks. People imagining photoshop is just about applying a filter here and there and sliding a few sliders are just displaying their level of utter 'dumbness'. You try doing a composite image on your own from scratch and let's see how you get on. Why a composite image? The creation of composite images uses many of the main basic photoshop skills.

At the moment Im learning to use Boris FX Optics plugin for Photoshop. Im learning it, not using Jack Blacks wasteful and inefficient trial and error reinvent a square wheel method, Im learning how to use it by listening to experts. Its a complex multilayered piece of software that I want to get up and running fast with. Expert advice is the BEST way.

I think you people have spent far too much time absorbing FE fantasy think. Come back to the real world.

You and I have very different life experiences it seems.

I don't see Photoshop as some mysterious, complicated software that is impossible to understand without getting a Masters degree in Photoshop operation. I'm confident you could hand me any image processing software in the world and I'd be able to composite images without any help. The concept of layers has been around long before Photoshop. I'm sorry, Photoshop is just not THAT complicated. It's not incomprehensible without taking a 4 year course in it.

I have no idea what the Boris FX Optics plugin does, but I have no doubt I could figure that out on my own. Would it be quicker if you told me, sure. But would I need you to? No. 

Most of my professional work has been doing things where there is no manual, where figuring stuff out on your own is the only way to go. I've never taken a class in operating a piece of software, I just figured it out. I read manuals where available, asked for advice in the rare cases I was able to do so, but otherwise just got it done.

Remember, there is more than one way to use a piece of software. Learning from an expert might be the fastest way to learn one particular method, but can you guarantee the way that expert uses it is the BEST way? For everyone?  No.

Not to even mention programming and writing your own software. Much of that is uncharted territory, you're always doing things that have never been done before. Good luck finding an expert in writing the thing you are creating. You're that expert, or will be when you finish.

To truly use anything as fast as possible and to the best of your ability you need to both have expert advice and the ability to learn on your own, including trial and error.

TLDR; Learning from others and learning by yourself are both valid ways of learning and in life there will be times you need one, times you will need the other and times when you need to do both. You can't figure it all out by yourself, but you can't learn everything from other either.
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Again, in no way have I been anti-expert.  I have repeatedly reiterated that your support of the claim that the ONLY way to gain understanding is from experts.  I'm also not upset, I just enjoy pressing foolish people into self destruction.  You have played the fool very nicely, thank you.  You are wrong.  You also don't get to choose who makes you look like an idiot, I choose to do so, you do your part an continue to be the fool. 
So you have nothing I see to offer proof for your claims that only experts can teach you things then, we will just highlight that failure again then.  Are you going to continue to dance and strawman, or are you going to act... you know what,, never-ending that, fools only really know how to be fools.  So more entertainment for me.
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Flat Earth General / Re: New model of the Universe.
« Last post by Timeisup on Today at 07:12:17 AM »
The Bible is an ambiguous, not very scientific and many times rewritten source.
There is one interesting point in the Bible - the appearance of the rainbow after the flood.
Before the flood, giants, dinosaurs lived on Earth, people supposedly lived for several hundred years, and, most interestingly, there was no rainbow. That is, before the flood, the conditions of life on Earth were very different from the current (post-Flood) ones. This is indicated, among other things, by the absence of a rainbow before the flood, which clearly emerges from the quote below.

I lay My rainbow in the cloud, so that it would be a sign of the covenant between Me and between the earth ... When I bring the cloud to the earth, then a rainbow in the cloud will appear ... and I will remember the eternal covenant between God and between every living soul ... This is the sign of the covenant that I have established between me and between all flesh that is on the earth. (Genesis 9: 13-17)

Strongly different antediluvian conditions on Earth ... There are quite a few weighty arguments in favor of the fact that before the flood the Earth (and the Universe) looked something like this schematic diagram:



The sun was probably colder, the moon hotter. When the Sun and the Moon separated from Proto-Earth, the smaller Moon quickly cooled down, and on the larger Sun, nuclear processes were activated, which, by the way, are now systematically declining. Solar activity has been declining for the fifth consecutive cycle (50 years). The duration of the solar cycle is about 10 years.



And this is the forecast for the 25th solar cycle, which is being confirmed more and more every day.



The fall in solar activity for 5 consecutive cycles, this is a regularity - a tendency indicating the extinction of the Sun. The graphs of solar activity before 1950-1960 (before the beginning of the space age) cannot be reliable - this is something like a forecast into the past.

Another small but very interesting fact that indirectly confirms my model of the Universe. On the American continents, there are armadillos in the wild, but no hedgehogs. In Africa and Eurasia, hedgehogs are found, but there are no armadillos.

Arial of armadillos and Arial of hedgehogs.



Confirms YOUR model of the universe!
Now that is a tall tale.
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