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Title: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: Boomshakalaka on July 18, 2017, 09:18:40 AM
Hello all!

The FE is debunked by Quantas flights QF27 and QF28. These are actual flights that happen everyday. There is no way to explain how these flights operate with the flight times that they experience with FE theory.

The essential explanation is that it would be impossible to accomplish the flight from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile in the actual time the flight experiences using a Flat Earth. This is proven with actual real life observation and real life information.

Using FE thinking the flight would be impossible as the airliner would have to fly faster than the speed of sound. There are no modern airliners that break the speed of sound.

The meat and potatoes is found here:
https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/

Feel free to do the math and check actual real life information found on the Internet. You can track the planes, and actually buy a ticket to one of these flights. If FE is true then this flight is not possible.

Ready to hear your counter arguments!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: neutrino on July 18, 2017, 04:01:44 PM
It is obvious! What a hell mate?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: Apokalypt on July 18, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
Lol, are you guys dumb, that is clearly fake! Airplanes don`t exist!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: Zammo on July 18, 2017, 05:31:43 PM
Lol, are you guys dumb, that is clearly fake! Airplanes don`t exist!
Absolutely! What look like airplanes in the sky are just reflections off the dome. And experiences of actually being in an airplane are simply mass hallucination events.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: neutrino on July 18, 2017, 05:31:58 PM
Show me any true image of airplane! They all are FAKE! You dumb globularists!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: Mikey T. on July 19, 2017, 08:28:56 PM
Oh wow, this thread hasn't made it to CN yet?  MOM and jroa are slipping.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: MCToon on May 04, 2018, 12:45:07 PM
Does the lack of response mean tacit acceptance of the claim in the thread subject?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 04, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Does the lack of response mean tacit acceptance of the claim in the thread subject?
Sure, non-flat earthers see no problem, but flat-earthers will not accept it and simply cover their eyes and say "I see nothing!".

And the reason behind that is:
"If personally unverifiable evidence contradicts an obvious truth then the evidence is fabricated" and, to them, FET is  an obvious truth.
So they never go on these flights because they know they must be fake evidence fabricated specifically as false evidence against the flat earth.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Flat-earthers believe that they and they alone ;D know the truth ;D!
Hence Flat-earthers must close their minds to any contrary evidence.

Closing the mind to any contrary evidence is typical of people that believe in a conspiracy against their belief.
Many try to deny it, but then their arguments prove that they rely on a conspiracy against the flat earth. See Look at this:
Quote from: The Flat Earth Wiki
Place of the Conspiracy in FET
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The existence of such a huge quantity of false information indicates the existence of the conspiracy.

Essentially the reasoning boils down to -

P1) If personally unverifiable evidence contradicts an obvious truth then the evidence is fabricated
P2) The FET (Flat Earth Theory) is an obvious truth
P3) There is personally unverifiable evidence that contradicts the FET

C1) The unverifiable evidence that contradicts the FET is fabricated evidence
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
From THE FLAT EARTH Wiki, Place of the Conspiracy in FET. (http://theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Place+of+the+Conspiracy+in+FET)

It clearly states "The FET (Flat Earth Theory) is an obvious truth" and "If personally unverifiable evidence contradicts an obvious truth then the evidence is fabricated".

And it is well known that Conspiracy theorists believe wild ideas because they want to feel special. (https://qz.com/1258198/conspiracy-theorists-believe-wild-ideas-because-they-want-to-feel-special/)
This is confirmed by the number claims they make as to their "knowing THE Truth!".

Flat Earthers are but one little group of Conspiracy theorists but one of the worst but the have believe so many are lying to them.

Often presenting evidence against their belief simply strengthens that belief and this new piece of evidence is just added to the conspiracy.

So, they can never be convinced, but there are many here not "too far down the rabbit hole" that might see any good contrary evidence we might present.

Well,  now you have my long answer to "why?".
We had a real pilot here a little while back who personally flew on a number of irregular flights across the Pacific including from Peru in South America to Cairns in Australia.
He was accused of being a liar and a terrorist by a few trolls here to such and extent that he left in disgust.
Here is a link where a QANTAS Captain describes a flight that he flew from Santiago to Sydney:
             A Flight over the Antarctic Sea Ice From Chile to Australia (QF28) (https://www.metabunk.org/a-flight-over-the-antarctic-sea-ice-from-chile-to-australia-qf28.t8235/)
and      Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28) From Australia to South America. (https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/)
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 04, 2018, 10:33:42 PM
Does the lack of response mean tacit acceptance of the claim in the thread subject?

Because flat earth believers are not interest the all topic of shills/shits.

There is nobody in the earth who is taking breath used/flown this route.

Black listed aircraft companies: Qantas, Lan, Latam, South African, Sichuan Airl 

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74179

Quote
There is come aircraft companies producing the wrong knowledge. They either do it for prove how they are strong. Sometimes they claim a route they never flown. Or sometimes they claim impossible flight times that nobody flight in. this is some kind of unfair competition.

Qantas is number one fraud.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: JackBlack on May 05, 2018, 12:38:44 AM
There is nobody in the earth who is taking breath used/flown this route.
You pretending they don't exist doesn't mean they don't.

Black listed aircraft companies: Qantas, Lan, Latam, South African, Sichuan Airl
And your only justification for blacklisting them is that they show your delusions to be wrong.

Qantas is number one fraud.
No, you are the number one fraud, with your repeated lies about anything which shows you to be wrong.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 12:47:31 AM
There is nobody in the earth who is taking breath used/flown this route.
You pretending they don't exist doesn't mean they don't.

Black listed aircraft companies: Qantas, Lan, Latam, South African, Sichuan Airl
And your only justification for blacklisting them is that they show your delusions to be wrong.

Qantas is number one fraud.
No, you are the number one fraud, with your repeated lies about anything which shows you to be wrong.

:) hello rabinoz :)

Why don't you prove the existance of this flight by taking an online video, instead of talking prates?

Come on, we all know you can't do this. Because you have no money to buy a 1.000$ camera.  ;D
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 05, 2018, 01:25:37 AM
Does the lack of response mean tacit acceptance of the claim in the thread subject?
There is nobody in the earth who is taking breath used/flown this route.
Please present independent evidence for your totally incorrect claim!

I do wish I knew why you think that you have to lie all the time to support the flat earth?
If the earth is really flat there should be plenty of  honest evidence for that and you should have no need for outright lies like this.
But apparently you are not sure that there is real evidence that the earth is flat so you lie like this to pretend it's flat.

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QANTAS CELEBRATES 3 YEARS OF FLYING TO SANTIAGO SYDNEY | PUBLISHED ON 26TH MARCH 2015 AT 8:26
Qantas today celebrates the third anniversary of its first service from Sydney to Santiago, with more than 430,000* Qantas passengers travelling on the route since launch.

Initially operating three times per week, Qantas began services from Sydney to Santiago in 2012 and increased to four services per week last year in response to strong passenger demand.

Qantas Executive Manager Global Sales, Stephen Thompson said thousands of customers were taking advantage of Qantas’ vast South American network every year.

“Demand for flights between Australia and Santiago has exceeded our expectations and forward bookings are looking very strong,” said Mr Thompson.
“The strong business market, which makes up around two thirds of our customers, together with the growing family, student and leisure segments makes Santiago a very important hub.
“Qantas offers the fastest non-stop route between Australia and South America, and our recent expansion with oneworld partner LAN enables customers to travel to more destinations in South America, more opportunities to earn frequent flyer points and have their luggage checked through to their final destination.”

*Total passenger numbers include Qantas’ direct service between Santiago and Sydney, and Qantas codeshare passengers travelling on LAN Airlines’ daily services between Sydney and Santiago via Auckland and direct between Auckland and Santiago.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 02:27:14 AM
Brainwashingtonoz deleted

Offer a flight video about you claim its existance or shut up.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: JackBlack on May 05, 2018, 02:41:33 AM
Why don't you prove the existance of this flight by taking an online video, instead of talking prates?
While I'm not Rab, taking a video is pointless.
There is already plenty of proof of its existence which you simply ignore.
If we provided a video you would just cry "FAKE!!!"

That is because you don't care about the truth.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 02:57:39 AM
Brainwashington is deleted.

Stop to talk till you bring a video of QF27. I claim this flight is absent. Prove the opposite, sir jackinoz.  8)
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 05, 2018, 03:30:13 AM
Offer a flight video about you claim its existance or shut up.
What would a video prove? Nothing!
If you won't believe that QANTAS and LATAM fly non-stop across the Pacific, you wouldn't believe a video.

Why would anybody bother taking a video of a 12 how flight? it would be just too boring!
But there are these LATAM flights that go Sydney, Auckland, Santiago the Buenos Aires:

TRIPREPORT | LATAM (Economy) |
Auckland - Santiago De Chile | Boeing 787-9
(Auckland to Santiago but still across the Pacific
     

LAN Business Class 787-8 / 787-9 Inflight review
(LA800 SYD-AKL-SCL, LA445 SCL- EZE) David Hein
But, what do a few videos prove? Go down to Santiago and find out the truth!

Qantas Boeing 747-400ER VH-OEH take off from
Santiago de Chile to Sydney (QF28)
[/b]
     

Vuelo Qantas Santiago Chile - Sydney Australia Boeing 747,
Erick Amador

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/udrcnwra2b8lsls/Expedia%20Sydney%20to%20Santiago%20Direct%20Flight%202018-02-02.png?dl=1)
Look, Mr Brotherhood of the Dome, I  don't know who you think you are sitting in your basement in Istanbul,
but you've proven over and over that you know nothing about Australia, yet you still spin your fairy stories about this country.

If you really want to learn for yourself, go down to Santiago and find out that I've been right all along!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 05, 2018, 03:47:47 AM
Stop to talk till you bring a video of QF27. I claim this flight is absent. Prove the opposite, sir jackinoz.  8)
You show some evidence that those flights are not real because hundreds of thousands of people have flown Sydney to/from Santiago.

Here read this!
TWCobra, Senior Member, Metabunk is the pilot on this Flight QF28.

Quote from: TWCobra
A Flight over the Antarctic Sea Ice From Chile to Australia (QF28)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/dzn39dx960bpe3o/TWCobra%2C%20Senior%20Member%2C%20Metabunk%20-%20Mercator%20Map%2C%2020161210-152703-oepxr.jpg?dl=1)
QF28, Route on Mercator's Projection
[Nov 18 2016] For anyone interested, in a couple of hours I'll be heading out of Santiago heading for Sydney on the QF28. The flight plan has us spending quite a bit of time at 71'30" South and the cloud forecast at the moment shows not a lot of cloud! Lucky I brought 2 GoPros with me!

Fingers crossed for a good time-lapse video of the ice pack!

The pic above shows the route. I've been meaning to post something explaining great circle routes and why they are faster. This map will help once I compare it to the Google Earth representation of the track.

In the meantime we will be taking off around 1700 GMT and landing about 14 hours later. Only around 5% of the flight will be visible on FR24 as there is just nobody to pick up our ADSB signals.

Main Flight plan has just arrived with 13:25 as the flight time which should have us in Sydney on schedule at 0645 UTC. Here is what the flight looks like in the Nav software.

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/326pwdxphsy74mq/TWCobra%2C%20Senior%20Member%2C%20Metabunk%20-%20Polar%20Map%2C%20upload_2016-12-10_14-58-56.png?dl=1)
QF28, Route on Polar Projection
[UPDATE: Nov 19, 2016]
Just got in. We had 30 minutes with an awesome view of the ice.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Read the rest in: A Flight over the Antarctic Sea Ice From Chile to Australia (QF28) (https://www.metabunk.org/a-flight-over-the-antarctic-sea-ice-from-chile-to-australia-qf28.t8235/)

You might also  :P enjoy reading :P Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28) From Australia to South America. (https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/)

Others might learn something, even if poor old Brotherhood of the Dome can't bear to face the real truth.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: JackBlack on May 05, 2018, 04:00:08 AM
Stop to talk till you bring a video of QF27. I claim this flight is absent. Prove the opposite, sir jackinoz.  8)
No.
You claim it is absent, you prove it.
If you can't prove it is fake, then you have no basis for your claim.
You happily accept so many flights being real, but as soon as these ones show up, you dismiss them as fake simply because they show you to be wrong.
GROW UP!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 06:27:58 AM
Rubbishinoz deleted.
All videos are less than 15 minutes. It should be 15 hours, not minutes.

Turn to your school and work more.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: MicroBeta on May 05, 2018, 07:24:24 AM
Brainwashingtonoz deleted

Offer a flight video about you claim its existance or shut up.
I really feel you cannot claim they don't exist if you haven't taken the flight.  There is plenty of evidence that these flights exist. 

You can book them.  You can track them like any other flight.  However, all you have is your supposition based on your theoretical analysis.  I really believe you cannot unequivocally claim these flights don't exist without direct evidence.

What I know to be fact is that my daughter flew from Los Angeles, California to Sydney, Australia with the People to People program.  It was a 15-ish hour non-stop flight...same with the return flight.  I wasn’t there but I believe my daughter when tells me how long her flights were. 

On a side note, it was a once in a lifetime experience for my daughter to travel through Australia and New Zealand for a few weeks.  If anyone’s child has the opportunity to be part of the People to People program I’d highly recommend it. 

Mike
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 08:13:51 AM
Brainwashingtonoz deleted

Offer a flight video about you claim its existance or shut up.
I really feel you cannot claim they don't exist if you haven't taken the flight.  There is plenty of evidence that these flights exist. 

You can book them.  You can track them like any other flight.  However, all you have is your supposition based on your theoretical analysis.  I really believe you cannot unequivocally claim these flights don't exist without direct evidence.

What I know to be fact is that my daughter flew from Los Angeles, California to Sydney, Australia with the People to People program.  It was a 15-ish hour non-stop flight...same with the return flight.  I wasn’t there but I believe my daughter when tells me how long her flights were. 

On a side note, it was a once in a lifetime experience for my daughter to travel through Australia and New Zealand for a few weeks.  If anyone’s child has the opportunity to be part of the People to People program I’d highly recommend it. 

Mike

There is no problem with the flight time between USA and Australia. Problem South America to Australia flights are absent. All I want a full flight video between any of South American city and any of Australian city. Is it really hard? We are talking about an instutation has 20.000.000.000$ budget, try to everything to prove the earth is a globe, but could not find 1.000$ to buy a camera and someone record it; really?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 08:25:53 AM
I want to give you an example to teach you how prove something:

Firm: Qantas
Flight: London - Perth
My opinion: Exist!
Proof: Full time video! 17 hours!
Result: London to perth 17 hours is possible!



Firm: Air France
Flight: paris-Vancouer
My opinion: Exist
Proof: Following Full time video!
Result: Paris to Vancoer 11 hours travel is possible!



Firm: United airlines
Flight: San Fransisco-London
My opinion: Exist!
Proof: Following full flight video
Result: San Fransisco to London 11 hours travel is possible!




Firm: American Airlines
Flight: London-New York
My opinion: Exist.
Proof: Following video.
Result: London to New York 8 hours travel is possible!



I hope everyone has understand how a proof bees!

Now lets examine the flight of QF27

Firm: Qantas
Flight: Sydney-Santiago,Chile
My opinion: ABSENT!
Proof: ABSENT!
Result:

(https://www.kimdirki.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/nah.jpg)

Any other claim?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: MicroBeta on May 05, 2018, 08:39:46 AM
Brainwashingtonoz deleted

Offer a flight video about you claim its existance or shut up.
I really feel you cannot claim they don't exist if you haven't taken the flight.  There is plenty of evidence that these flights exist. 

You can book them.  You can track them like any other flight.  However, all you have is your supposition based on your theoretical analysis.  I really believe you cannot unequivocally claim these flights don't exist without direct evidence.

What I know to be fact is that my daughter flew from Los Angeles, California to Sydney, Australia with the People to People program.  It was a 15-ish hour non-stop flight...same with the return flight.  I wasn’t there but I believe my daughter when tells me how long her flights were. 

On a side note, it was a once in a lifetime experience for my daughter to travel through Australia and New Zealand for a few weeks.  If anyone’s child has the opportunity to be part of the People to People program I’d highly recommend it. 

Mike

There is no problem with the flight time between USA and Australia. Problem South America to Australia flights are absent. All I want a full flight video between any of South American city and any of Australian city. Is it really hard? We are talking about an instutation has 20.000.000.000$ budget, try to everything to prove the earth is a globe, but could not find 1.000$ to buy a camera and someone record it; really?
Why would someone else's video be evidence.  I suspect you'd claim it was faked.  I could be wrong but I believe it's likely.

The only way to settle it is for either someone you trust or yourself to take the flight.

BTW, the only way for the LA to Sydney flight to take 15 hours going and 14 returning is on a globe.  IMHO, the distance below the equator to Sydney on a flat earth would add hours to those times.

Mike
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2018, 10:19:50 AM
Brainwashingtonoz deleted

Offer a flight video about you claim its existance or shut up.
I really feel you cannot claim they don't exist if you haven't taken the flight.  There is plenty of evidence that these flights exist. 

You can book them.  You can track them like any other flight.  However, all you have is your supposition based on your theoretical analysis.  I really believe you cannot unequivocally claim these flights don't exist without direct evidence.

What I know to be fact is that my daughter flew from Los Angeles, California to Sydney, Australia with the People to People program.  It was a 15-ish hour non-stop flight...same with the return flight.  I wasn’t there but I believe my daughter when tells me how long her flights were. 

On a side note, it was a once in a lifetime experience for my daughter to travel through Australia and New Zealand for a few weeks.  If anyone’s child has the opportunity to be part of the People to People program I’d highly recommend it. 

Mike

There is no problem with the flight time between USA and Australia. Problem South America to Australia flights are absent. All I want a full flight video between any of South American city and any of Australian city. Is it really hard? We are talking about an instutation has 20.000.000.000$ budget, try to everything to prove the earth is a globe, but could not find 1.000$ to buy a camera and someone record it; really?
you really want someone to record 13+ hours of sitting on a plane?  Really? And when they are told to turn off electronic devices for take off and landing, what then?  Even if they had the whole thing YOU would not watch it and I bet you'd claim it was fake anyway.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: Lamaface on May 05, 2018, 10:41:18 AM
There’s a channel on YouTube that airs full flights: https://www.youtube.com/user/aviationphotos
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 11:19:52 AM
There’s a channel on YouTube that airs full flights: https://www.youtube.com/user/aviationphotos

QF27 is still absent.  ;)
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 11:26:48 AM
Brainwashingtonoz deleted

Offer a flight video about you claim its existance or shut up.
I really feel you cannot claim they don't exist if you haven't taken the flight.  There is plenty of evidence that these flights exist. 

You can book them.  You can track them like any other flight.  However, all you have is your supposition based on your theoretical analysis.  I really believe you cannot unequivocally claim these flights don't exist without direct evidence.

What I know to be fact is that my daughter flew from Los Angeles, California to Sydney, Australia with the People to People program.  It was a 15-ish hour non-stop flight...same with the return flight.  I wasn’t there but I believe my daughter when tells me how long her flights were. 

On a side note, it was a once in a lifetime experience for my daughter to travel through Australia and New Zealand for a few weeks.  If anyone’s child has the opportunity to be part of the People to People program I’d highly recommend it. 

Mike

There is no problem with the flight time between USA and Australia. Problem South America to Australia flights are absent. All I want a full flight video between any of South American city and any of Australian city. Is it really hard? We are talking about an instutation has 20.000.000.000$ budget, try to everything to prove the earth is a globe, but could not find 1.000$ to buy a camera and someone record it; really?
you really want someone to record 13+ hours of sitting on a plane?  Really? And when they are told to turn off electronic devices for take off and landing, what then?  Even if they had the whole thing YOU would not watch it and I bet you'd claim it was fake anyway.

I gave you example. Other pilots are really doing it to prove their flights. Most of pilots are doing it. Not passengers, but pilots are doing it to prove their experience. It is not hard, buy a 1.000$ camera (an average captain pilot gathers 15.000-20000$ per month). Put camera anywhere on cocpit and direct it to the outside. Thats all. It does its own work by itself!

There is no ONE OF THE PILOTS on this "world" claim with a video their experience on QF27 or QF28.

Absolutely these flights are absent and hoax.

My decision of put Qantas to the black list is confirmed!

EXISTANCE OF QF27, QF278 IS DISPROVED.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: Mikey T. on May 05, 2018, 11:30:40 AM
What?  what was that inky?  I have no idea what you said... it says "You are ignoring this user."  on all your posts.  I bet it was stupid anyway.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2018, 11:30:53 AM
Brainwashingtonoz deleted

Offer a flight video about you claim its existance or shut up.
I really feel you cannot claim they don't exist if you haven't taken the flight.  There is plenty of evidence that these flights exist. 

You can book them.  You can track them like any other flight.  However, all you have is your supposition based on your theoretical analysis.  I really believe you cannot unequivocally claim these flights don't exist without direct evidence.

What I know to be fact is that my daughter flew from Los Angeles, California to Sydney, Australia with the People to People program.  It was a 15-ish hour non-stop flight...same with the return flight.  I wasn’t there but I believe my daughter when tells me how long her flights were. 

On a side note, it was a once in a lifetime experience for my daughter to travel through Australia and New Zealand for a few weeks.  If anyone’s child has the opportunity to be part of the People to People program I’d highly recommend it. 

Mike

There is no problem with the flight time between USA and Australia. Problem South America to Australia flights are absent. All I want a full flight video between any of South American city and any of Australian city. Is it really hard? We are talking about an instutation has 20.000.000.000$ budget, try to everything to prove the earth is a globe, but could not find 1.000$ to buy a camera and someone record it; really?
you really want someone to record 13+ hours of sitting on a plane?  Really? And when they are told to turn off electronic devices for take off and landing, what then?  Even if they had the whole thing YOU would not watch it and I bet you'd claim it was fake anyway.

I gave you example. Other pilots are really doing it to prove their flights. Most of pilots are doing it. Not passengers, but pilots are doing it to prove their experience. It is not hard, buy a 1.000$ camera (an average captain pilot gathers 15.000-20000$ per month). Put camera anywhere on cocpit and direct it to the outside. Thats all. It does its own work by itself!
they are not doing it to prove their flights.  Why should they? Their flight logs prove their flights. They are doing it because of the social media trend where some people like to post details fo everything they do. Some people post pics of everything they eat.  Does that prove those that don't post don't eat anything?

And only a small portion of pilots are doing it.  Nowhere near most.


There is no ONE OF THE PILOTS on this "world" claim with a video their experience on QF27 or QF28.

Absolutely these flights are absent and hoax.

My decision of put Qantas to the black list is confirmed!

EXISTANCE OF QF27, QF278 IS DISPROVED.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. And there is plenty of other evidence that the flights exist that you ignore.
The hoax is still an opinion.  You don't know what proof is, do you?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
Stop to trolling the forum.

If you can't prove the existance of flight, so the topic is wrong. QF27 isn't exist. It just a claim. Claims can't debunk anyting.

Case closed.

Debunked claim is debunked. This topic is nothing but a crap after now.

You globe heads are free to discuss between yourselves till globist backed management lets you do it.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: Lamaface on May 05, 2018, 11:53:55 AM
I have an idea BoTD. Why don’t you sit through all the videos on that YouTube channel I linked previously and compare them with flight records form he companies on your blacklist.

But remember, you have to watch them fully for one could have tinkered with them!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 11:59:51 AM
I have an idea BoTD. Why don’t you sit through all the videos on that YouTube channel I linked previously and compare them with flight records form he companies on your blacklist.

But remember, you have to watch them fully for one could have tinkered with them!

Do it by yourself. If you Report me the results then I'll control them. Okay.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: MicroBeta on May 05, 2018, 12:29:48 PM
Here's a video of interest...





Mike
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2018, 01:44:50 PM
Stop to trolling the forum.
Yes, you should.

If you can't prove the existance of flight, so the topic is wrong. QF27 isn't exist. It just a claim. Claims can't debunk anyting.

Case closed.

Debunked claim is debunked. This topic is nothing but a crap after now.
It was proven long ago.  There is plenty of evidence you just ignore.

You globe heads are free to discuss between yourselves till globist backed management lets you do it.
And the shill gambit.  Thank you for proving you've run out of arguments.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2018, 01:45:42 PM
I have an idea BoTD. Why don’t you sit through all the videos on that YouTube channel I linked previously and compare them with flight records form he companies on your blacklist.

But remember, you have to watch them fully for one could have tinkered with them!

Do it by yourself. If you Report me the results then I'll control them. Okay.
So in other words, you demand full videos to prove flights but you can't be bothered to actually watch.  So not surprised.  ::)
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 02:12:38 PM
Here's a video of interest...





Mike

I have saw them earlier. I forced you delibaretely for post this flights. Because we have proved they are clearly cgi. If you watch the videos before post, you could understand them as fake. Clearly fake. This video is a game scene like minecraft. Even so minecraft is more real.

If you come 3:00 hours, then 11:00 hours, both are night and between it is daylight. So daylight is just 7 hours? It is clear there is missing at least 5 hours.

And the second one, but this time night continues about 14 hours. How is it possible? Impossible Mike.

This is what we call as "simulation flight" Mike. You should to Prepare more convincing lies!   ;D
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: JackBlack on May 05, 2018, 03:04:55 PM
Problem South America to Australia flights are absent.
They aren't absent.
They exist.
People have flown them.

All I want a full flight video between any of South American city and any of Australian city.
Then go make one.

We are talking about an instutation has 20.000.000.000$ budget, try to everything to prove the earth is a globe, but could not find 1.000$ to buy a camera and someone record it; really?
No one is trying to prove Earth is a globe. That has been known for thousands of years.

How about instead of acting like this is all there is, you make a list of all the stupid requests like this which have been made and see just how much they cost.
Then realise that even if the video was provided you would still just dismiss it as fake making it pointless.

The only video you would accept is one you made yourself.
So stop demanding we make one when we all you will just dismiss it.
Go make it yourself.

My opinion: ABSENT!
Proof: ABSENT!
Yes, your proof is absent.
Now how about you try providing some?
I know people personally who have flown this route.
I have been able to track the planes as they fly this route, they are available on booking sites, and so on.

QF27 is still absent.
Only the video of it, which is true for plenty of other flights.

All the evidence points to these flights existing and your only basis for saying they are fake is that they prove you wrong.

Other pilots are really doing it to prove their flights. Most of pilots are doing it.
No they aren't.
If you wish to make such insane claims we will need far more than your word.

Not passengers, but pilots
Then why ask us for one?
I'm not a pilot.

And why would any do it for someone like you when you repeatedly insult them and anyone else that disagrees with you?

Absolutely these flights are absent and hoax.
Nope. All the evidence still indicates they are real and you have provided no reason to doubt their existence.

This video is a game scene like minecraft.
No, like flight simulator X, as the titles clearly indicate.

If you come 3:00 hours, then 11:00 hours, both are night and between it is daylight. So daylight is just 7 hours?
I take it you forgot how timezones work?
If you are flying east, you will have shorter days and shorter nights.

And the second one, but this time night continues about 14 hours.
Because when you fly west, days and nights are much longer.

The day and night cycle on FSX is pretty accurate.

This also shows you haven't bothered checking the flights you presented, as they have similar issues.
How long is day and night on the trip from Perth to London?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: MicroBeta on May 05, 2018, 03:16:02 PM
Here's a video of interest...





Mike

I have saw them earlier. I forced you delibaretely for post this flights. Because we have proved they are clearly cgi. If you watch the videos before post, you could understand them as fake. Clearly fake. This video is a game scene like minecraft. Even so minecraft is more real.

If you come 3:00 hours, then 11:00 hours, both are night and between it is daylight. So daylight is just 7 hours? It is clear there is missing at least 5 hours.

And the second one, but this time night continues about 14 hours. How is it possible? Impossible Mike.

This is what we call as "simulation flight" Mike. You should to Prepare more convincing lies!   ;D
And that is all you're going to get.  It's completely unreasonable for you to demand others spend thousands of dollars and devote the time just to provide you with video evidence.  It's just plain unfair.

You are the one making the claim that these flights are fake.  There is plenty of evidence that these flights exist.  The onus in on you to provide concrete proof and I'm not talking about your personal calculations because as much as the existence of these flights are unbelievable to you, because you say so is just as incredulous to us.

It’s up to you to take the flight and document your own evidence.  This is one of the things I don’t understand about FEers.  There are enough of you to crowd fund this (e.g. gofundme) and the proof could be had for just a few dollars apiece and yet all anyone will do is use spreadsheets and internet searches and say that is enough to be proof positive.  Well, it's not. 

Mike
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 05, 2018, 03:35:43 PM
I have an idea BoTD. Why don’t you sit through all the videos on that YouTube channel I linked previously and compare them with flight records form he companies on your blacklist.

But remember, you have to watch them fully for one could have tinkered with them!

Do it by yourself. If you Report me the results then I'll control them. Okay.
Not acceptable! You will not believe anyone else's report, so you must sit through them ALL YOURSELF!

And remember, Mr Brotherhood of the Dome, you control nothing.
You deceptively put these airlines on a "black-list" for no other reason than that their flight prove that you are wrong.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 05, 2018, 03:44:08 PM
Stop to trolling the forum.

If you can't prove the existance of flight, so the topic is wrong. QF27 isn't exist. It just a claim. Claims can't debunk anyting.
Case closed.
Debunked claim is debunked. This topic is nothing but a crap after now.
Incorrect hundreds of thousands have flown that route so video evidence is not necessary and you have been shown plenty of videos anyway.
So, Mr Brotherhood of the Dome, since you have never even been to the Southern Hemisphere, the onus is squarely on your shoulders to prove you case.
And really you have provided no evidence, just the empty words of a proven highly biased person!

So, the case is not closed and those flights are all quite genuine!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2018, 03:48:28 PM
Here's a video of interest...





Mike

I have saw them earlier. I forced you delibaretely for post this flights. Because we have proved they are clearly cgi. If you watch the videos before post, you could understand them as fake. Clearly fake. This video is a game scene like minecraft. Even so minecraft is more real.

If you come 3:00 hours, then 11:00 hours, both are night and between it is daylight. So daylight is just 7 hours? It is clear there is missing at least 5 hours.

And the second one, but this time night continues about 14 hours. How is it possible? Impossible Mike.

This is what we call as "simulation flight" Mike. You should to Prepare more convincing lies!   ;D
Typical.  Doesn't fit with his fake map so the flights must be fake.  As for daylight of 7 hours, depending on the season and as they are flying East, there is nothing wrong with that.
Thanks for the humor!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 10:40:58 PM
Here's a video of interest...





Mike

I have saw them earlier. I forced you delibaretely for post this flights. Because we have proved they are clearly cgi. If you watch the videos before post, you could understand them as fake. Clearly fake. This video is a game scene like minecraft. Even so minecraft is more real.

If you come 3:00 hours, then 11:00 hours, both are night and between it is daylight. So daylight is just 7 hours? It is clear there is missing at least 5 hours.

And the second one, but this time night continues about 14 hours. How is it possible? Impossible Mike.

This is what we call as "simulation flight" Mike. You should to Prepare more convincing lies!   ;D
Typical.  Doesn't fit with his fake map so the flights must be fake.  As for daylight of 7 hours, depending on the season and as they are flying East, there is nothing wrong with that.
Thanks for the humor!

It is clear it is fake. I'm believing none of you have watched them. Because believing them requires to be the most idiot human in the world. They are not convincing more than a minecraft video.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 05, 2018, 10:49:52 PM
rubbish deleted

Mike, this video is clearly has taken by a flight simulator. All parts of the video shows its fake, it is clearly fake. You are constantly claim it as true and this proves you are the one of the troll/shill of this forum. I was thinking you as a normal human but sounds like you are acting together with the world's most idiot ones.

Your talk together doesn't convince anyone. All newcomer can see how its fake. You may claim it as true by 5-10 person together, but can't change the fact these are fake.

You know it is fake,
I'now it is fake,
Visitors will decide they are fake after compared the videos posted by me.

Constantly claiming they are as real doesn'T make them real! Just makes all of you funny and how pathetic, But its your fun'eral.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 06, 2018, 01:55:05 AM
<< MicroBeta's factual material deleted >>
<< rubbish deleted >>
Constantly claiming they are fake flights doesn't make them fake! That just makes you a pathetic deceiver, But its your funeral.

Like it or not, Mr Brotherhood of the Dome, QANTAS is currently the number two airline in the world!
Quote
The world's best airlines according to AirlineRatings.com
(click on the links to read Traveller's most recent reviews of the airlines)
  • Air New Zealand (Review: Premium economy (http://www.traveller.com.au/flight-test--air-new-zealand-premium-economy--auckland-to-sydney-gw3iqy))
  • Qantas (Review: Economy class (http://www.traveller.com.au/airline-review-qantas-747-economy-class-sydney-to-johannesburg-gxhb5d))
  • Singapore Airlines (Review: Business class) (http://www.traveller.com.au/airline-review-singapore-airlines-business-class-singapore-to-manchester-gv3s4e)
  • Virgin Australia (Review: Business class) (http://www.traveller.com.au/airline-review-virgin-australia-a330-business-class-hong-kong-to-melbourne-gxmc9i)
  • Virgin Atlantic (Review: Premium economy) (http://www.traveller.com.au/flight-test-virgin-atlantic-gkhrur)
  • Etihad Airways (Review: Economy class) (http://www.traveller.com.au/flight-test-etihad-airways-economy-abu-dhabi-to-casablanca-guf2ah)
  • All Nippon Airways (Review: Premium economy (http://www.traveller.com.au/airline-review-ana-premium-economy-sydney-to-tokyo-gnakor))
  • Korean Air (Review: Economy class (http://www.traveller.com.au/flight-test-korean-air-economy-class-1q7wd))
  • Cathay Pacific (Review: Economy class (http://www.traveller.com.au/airline-review-cathay-pacific-economy-class-melbourne-to-hong-kong-gv3syw))
  • Japan Airlines (Review: Premium economy) (http://www.traveller.com.au/flight-test-jal-premium-economy-sydney-to-tokyo-gtmulf)
Read more: The world's best airlines according to AirlineRatings.com (http://www.traveller.com.au/worlds-best-airline-for-2018-named-by-airline-ratings-gze0zu#ixzz5EhunprSB)

Yes,  QANTAS in currently the number two airline in the world! and this poor ignorant sitting his Istanbul basement blacklists it.
Know something?  ;D ;D I think people will believe AirlineRatings.com before someone hiding in a basement!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: frenat on May 06, 2018, 05:17:09 AM
Here's a video of interest...





Mike

I have saw them earlier. I forced you delibaretely for post this flights. Because we have proved they are clearly cgi. If you watch the videos before post, you could understand them as fake. Clearly fake. This video is a game scene like minecraft. Even so minecraft is more real.

If you come 3:00 hours, then 11:00 hours, both are night and between it is daylight. So daylight is just 7 hours? It is clear there is missing at least 5 hours.

And the second one, but this time night continues about 14 hours. How is it possible? Impossible Mike.

This is what we call as "simulation flight" Mike. You should to Prepare more convincing lies!   ;D
Typical.  Doesn't fit with his fake map so the flights must be fake.  As for daylight of 7 hours, depending on the season and as they are flying East, there is nothing wrong with that.
Thanks for the humor!

It is clear it is fake. I'm believing none of you have watched them. Because believing them requires to be the most idiot human in the world. They are not convincing more than a minecraft video.
Thank you for your opinion.  too bad for you that you don't have any facts. And thank you for the humor!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: MicroBeta on May 06, 2018, 07:05:20 AM
rubbish deleted

Mike, this video is clearly has taken by a flight simulator. All parts of the video shows its fake, it is clearly fake. You are constantly claim it as true and this proves you are the one of the troll/shill of this forum. I was thinking you as a normal human but sounds like you are acting together with the world's most idiot ones.

Your talk together doesn't convince anyone. All newcomer can see how its fake. You may claim it as true by 5-10 person together, but can't change the fact these are fake.

You know it is fake,
I'now it is fake,
Visitors will decide they are fake after compared the videos posted by me.

Constantly claiming they are as real doesn'T make them real! Just makes all of you funny and how pathetic, But its your fun'eral.
You completely missed my point.  If you want a real video you have to do it yourself.  You're not going to get anyone to spend thousands of dollars, record 14 hours of a flight, and upload it just for you.  My last post wasn't rubbish.  You just couldn't come up with a reply to my points.

Mike
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: JackBlack on May 06, 2018, 02:07:41 PM
Mike, this video is clearly has taken by a flight simulator. All parts of the video shows its fake, it is clearly fake.
Yes, they are fake, but your reasons for claiming they are fake are wrong.

You would expect the same day-night pattern in reality.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 06, 2018, 02:25:07 PM
rubbish deleted

Mike, this video is clearly has taken by a flight simulator. All parts of the video shows its fake, it is clearly fake. You are constantly claim it as true and this proves you are the one of the troll/shill of this forum. I was thinking you as a normal human but sounds like you are acting together with the world's most idiot ones.

Your talk together doesn't convince anyone. All newcomer can see how its fake. You may claim it as true by 5-10 person together, but can't change the fact these are fake.

You know it is fake,
I'now it is fake,
Visitors will decide they are fake after compared the videos posted by me.

Constantly claiming they are as real doesn'T make them real! Just makes all of you funny and how pathetic, But its your fun'eral.
You completely missed my point.  If you want a real video you have to do it yourself.  You're not going to get anyone to spend thousands of dollars, record 14 hours of a flight, and upload it just for you.  My last post wasn't rubbish.  You just couldn't come up with a reply to my points.

Mike

Because it is not required. I have asked for a real, full flight and nobody put forwarded it. I have only showed the videos you offered are fake.

Mike, you missed the point. Pilots are doing this. Pilots are using these records for prove their flight experience. A video recorder atmost 1.000$ is not problem for them. Its about their cost of one day working. Pilots are really earning well. So that, most of pilot are doing it, especially for long pathes. It is the best prove method. Some passangers are doing it for both "prove their flight", and a hobby. You may find videos of  almost all pathes. But you can not find out of fake paths. This is one of the fake path.

A vide proof, or fake. This is clearly fake. Your points don't provide a vide, so pointless, or your points mean nothing.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 06, 2018, 03:11:20 PM
You completely missed my point.  If you want a real video you have to do it yourself.  You're not going to get anyone to spend thousands of dollars, record 14 hours of a flight, and upload it just for you.  My last post wasn't rubbish.  You just couldn't come up with a reply to my points.

Mike
Because it is not required. I have asked for a real, full flight and nobody put forwarded it. I have only showed the videos you offered are fake.

Mike, you missed the point. Pilots are doing this. Pilots are using these records for prove their flight experience.
That is completely untrue! Ever heard of log-books, medical certificate and a host of other records.
Read: How do investigators always know the logged flight time of the pilots? (https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/32391/how-do-investigators-always-know-the-logged-flight-time-of-the-pilots) and (https://www.aopa.org/-/media/images/aopa-main/aopa-logo_primary.png?h=97&w=160&la=en&hash=F60E140F9A5451D30F07ED2F1319AAE02320F4CF)LOGBOOKS AND LOGGING TIME (https://www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/learn-to-fly/logging-cross-country-time/logbooks-and-logging-time)
Frankly, Mr Brotherhood of the Dome we are sick and tired of your making up fairy stories to prop up the things that you imagine are true!

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome
A video recorder atmost 1.000$ is not problem for them. Its about their cost of one day working. Pilots are really earning well. So that, most of pilot are doing it, especially for long pathes.
Cost is nothing, but, why ever would a pilot take a video of the whole flight?!

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome
It is the best prove method. Some passangers are doing it for both "prove their flight", and a hobby. You may find videos of  almost all pathes. But you can not find out of fake paths. This is one of the fake path.
Qantas is not a fake airline. In fact it is rated as the second best in the world by the passengers. If Qantas advertised flights like QA27, QA28, QA63 and QA64 but did not fly them there would be thousands of complaints from prospective passengers.
Maybe no "full flight videos" have been found yet, but there is plenty of evidence that a Qantas plane take off from Santiago and lands in Sydney the expected time later.

And there are plenty of videos and photos of the ice pack north of Antarctica taken from these flights.
Read this again: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28) « Reply #16 on: May 05, 2018, 09:47:47 PM » (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=71309.msg2055711#msg2055711)
Especially this: A Flight over the Antarctic Sea Ice From Chile to Australia (QF28) (https://www.metabunk.org/a-flight-over-the-antarctic-sea-ice-from-chile-to-australia-qf28.t8235/)
Which has photos like this:
Just got in. We had 30 minutes with an awesome view of the ice.
(https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/img_3546-jpg.22733/)
        The images from both videos match satellite photos of the sea ice taken at about the same time.
(https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/20161121-134332-r1cj7-jpg.22856/)

And a video of the ice-field:

Flight Over the Antarctic Sea Ice. Time Lapse, Flight QF28 from Santiago Chile to Sydney Australia

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome
A vide proof, or fake. This is clearly fake. Your points don't provide a vide, so pointless, or your points mean nothing.
Your deception does not work, Mr Brotherhood of the Dome, those flights are real and used by hundreds of thousand people.
If your flat earth belief needs deception like this to prop it, there can't be much proper evidence for your imagine hypothesis.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: JackBlack on May 06, 2018, 04:17:05 PM
Because it is not required. I have asked for a real, full flight and nobody put forwarded it.
So what? That is not grounds to conclude it is fake.

Pilots are using these records for prove their flight experience.
No they are not.
They don't care about proving their flight experience to a bunch of paranoid nutters. Those that they do care about doing so wouldn't take a video as proof, instead they would look at the actual flight logs.
There are not videos of every flight.

You may find videos of  almost all pathes.
No, you find them from a small portion.

If you want anyone to take your claim seriously, you need more than just the absence of videos to claim it is fake.
You need to explain all the evidence showing they are real.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 07, 2018, 01:26:00 AM
<< Silly rubbish deleted >>
So you finally give up and admit that Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28). Thanks for that.

Now what about Short Flights (QF63 & QF64)? Here is one Sydney to Johannesburg flight.
QANTAS flight QF63 flew Sydney, Australia to Johannesburg, South Africa in 13 hrs 29 min (on May 6) and the Great Circle distance is 11,036 km
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/4vl5izon3azbelr/FlightAware%20QANTAS%20QFA63%20Sydney%20to%20Johannesburg.jpg?dl=1)
Flight QF63 Sydney to Johannesburg
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 07, 2018, 01:30:29 AM
crap is deleted.

Prove it by video or shut the fake up you rabid.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 07, 2018, 02:25:19 AM
crap is deleted.
Prove it by video or shut the fake up you rabid.
Why do you lie about all these Southern Hemisphere air routes? Won't they fit on your funny flat map?
How would a video prove it?  Anybody could fake a video!
So you claim that all airline flights that have no full length video are faked. You are a total idiot Mister Brotherhood of the Deceivers.

There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.
The flat earth must be really going downhill if it needs someone like you to deny obvious facts.

A real flat earth supporter would accept the facts as they are and find a way to explain them according to Flat Earth theory.

But not you! Anything your simple mind cannot understand you claim is faked.

That is no way to convince others that the earth is flat.  All it does is prove your own ignorance and incompetence.

Bye bye, have a nice day wallowing in your ignorance.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 07, 2018, 03:13:43 AM

There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.


O-o.  Prove your claim.

I don't think so.

Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 07, 2018, 04:02:52 AM

There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.


O-o.  Prove your claim.

I don't have to prove claims about air routes that hundreds of thousands fly. Have a little common sense.

If those routes did not exist there would be thousands of complaints to Qantas, the Australian Government and to the Australian media.
Then there would be similar complaints in South Africa and Peru.

If you need silly things like ignoring any air routes that you don't like to support your flat earth, you've totally lost the plot.

You can't hope to get anywhere by ignoring any evidence that you can't explain.  All you are don't is helping prove that the earth cannot be flat.

That is why I claim that people like you are more help to the Globe than to the flat earth, but you will not listen.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: JackBlack on May 07, 2018, 04:11:16 AM
There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.
Prove your claim.
That would be an impossible claim to prove to you.
If the video doesn't exist you will happily dismiss the flight as fake.

What evidence other than the video would you accept for the flight being real?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 07, 2018, 05:01:05 AM
rubbish deleted

Prove it by video or you're a liar. There is no complaint about Qantas because there is nobody want to fly to Santiago.

Come on, instead of USA, Brasil and Europe; which idiot want to go Santiago/Chile? Nobody. They know this, so they created this fraud.

If it exist, prove it by video. Why did you claimed  fake video and tried your chance to deceive people, mister deceiverinoz?

Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: Lamaface on May 07, 2018, 05:23:30 AM
This has been discussed before here: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62950.0
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 07, 2018, 06:49:47 AM
This has been discussed before here: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62950.0

So ?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 07, 2018, 01:19:08 PM

There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.


You mister, you are the one of the liar ever seen in the world. Do you sincere on this? Ok.

"most airline routes". Lets examine them all.

These are "most airline routes". Source is from your country, australia:

http://www.traveller.com.au/worlds-busiest-airline-flight-routes-melbournesydney-now-worlds-second-busiest-h0e7ha

World's 10 busiest air routes
1-Jeju-Seoul, South Korea: 64,991
2-Melbourne-Sydney, Australia: 54,519
3-Mumbai-Delhi, India: 47,462
4-Fukuoka-Tokyo Haneda, Japan: 42,835
5-Rio de Janeiro-Sao Paulo Congonhas, Brazil: 39,325
6-Sapporo-Tokyo, Japan: 38,389
7-Los Angeles-San Francisco, USA: 34,897
8-Brisbane-Sydney, Australia: 33,765
9-Cape Town-Johannesburg, South Africa: 31,914
10-Beijing-Shanghai, China: 30,029

World's busiest international air routes
1-Hong Kong-Taipei: 29,494
2-Kuala Lumpur-Singapore: 29,383
3-Jakarta-Singapore: 26,872
4-Jakarta-Kuala Lumpur: 20,890
5-Hong Kong-Shanghai: 20,818
6-New York La Guardia-Toronto: 17,116
7-Hong Kong-Seoul Incheon: 16,366
8-Beijing-Hong Kong: 14,592
9-Dublin-London Heathrow: 14,556
10-Bangkok-Singapore: 14,455

What is this? This is science. Now. Lets examine these "most airline routes" one by one and decide haven't they full time videos according to your claim, or have they?

World's 10 busiest air routes
1-Jeju-Seoul, South Korea: 64,991
Video:


2-Melbourne-Sydney, Australia: 54,519


3-Mumbai-Delhi, India: 47,462
Could not found.(possible language difference problem)

4-Fukuoka-Tokyo Haneda, Japan: 42,835


5-Rio de Janeiro-Sao Paulo Congonhas, Brazil: 39,325


6-Sapporo-Tokyo, Japan: 38,389


7-Los Angeles-San Francisco, USA: 34,897


8-Brisbane-Sydney, Australia: 33,765


9-Cape Town-Johannesburg, South Africa: 31,914


10-Beijing-Shanghai, China: 30,029
could not found, (possible language difference problem)

World's busiest international air routes
1-Hong Kong-Taipei: 29,494




2-Kuala Lumpur-Singapore: 29,383



Enough, I'm tired.  ;D

In this working, we have examined the 12 of 20 world's most airlines routes. In these routes, we have found videos of 10/12 of them all. We could not found flights one China and one India path, perhaps caused passangers were published them in Indian and Chinese languages and we could not found them. But generally we found videos belong most of pathes.

In short, the deceiver of the forum's claim as


There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.


debunked.

Oppositely, most of them have full time videos, mister.

So, do you give up the evil?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: JackBlack on May 07, 2018, 02:14:44 PM
Prove it by video or you're a liar. There is no complaint about Qantas because there is nobody want to fly to Santiago.
Come on, instead of USA, Brasil and Europe; which idiot want to go Santiago/Chile? Nobody. They know this, so they created this fraud.
There you go lying again.
Plenty of people fly the route.
If they didn't, the route wouldn't exist.
What reason do they have to lie about it?

So far we have the ability to book the flight and plenty of people who have either flown the route or claim to know someone that has, with flight tracking indicating the routes are being flown and so on.
Meanwhile we just have your baseless claim that the flights are fake all because they don't fit your delusional map.

"most airline routes". Lets examine them all.
These are "most airline routes". Source is from your country, australia:
No, these are the most flown routes or "busiest" routes by some other metric.
Theses are the ones that are most likely to have a video.

They are not most routes.
Here is a small example, from heathrow:
https://www.heathrow.com/plan-and-book-your-trip/destinations-and-airlines
Flying to the following destinations:
Aberdeen
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Accra
Addis Ababa
Agadir
Ahmedabad
Algiers
Almeria
Amman
Amsterdam
Ashgabat
Astana
Asturias
Athens
Atlanta
Auckland
Austin
Bahrain
Baku
Baltimore
Bandar Seri Begawan (Brunei)
Bangkok
Barcelona
Basel
Beijing
Beirut
Belfast City
Belgrade
Bengaluru
Bergen
Berlin (Tegel)
Biarritz
Bilbao
Billund
Bogota
Bologna
Boston
Bridgetown
Brindisi
Brussels
Bucharest (Otopeni)
Budapest
Buenos Aires
Cagliari
Cairo
Calgary
Cape Town
Casablanca
Changsha
Charlotte
Chennai
Chicago (O'Hare)
Cologne (Bonn)
Colombo
Copenhagen
Corfu
Cork
Crete
Dallas/Fort Worth
Delhi
Denver
Detroit
Dhaka
Doha
Dubai
Dublin
Dusseldorf
Edinburgh
Faro
Figari
Frankfurt
Geneva
Gibraltar
Glasgow
Grenoble
Gothenburg
Gran Canaria
Grand Cayman
Guangzhou
Halifax
Hamburg
Hanoi
Hanover
Helsinki
Ho Chi Minh City
Hong Kong
Houston
Hyderabad
Ibiza
Innsbruck
Inverness
Islamabad
Istanbul Ataturk
Jakarta
Jeddah
Johannesburg
Kalamata
Karachi
Kefalonia
Kiev (Borispol)
Krakow
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
La Coruna
Lagos
Lahore
Larnaca
Las Vegas
Leeds Bradford
Lisbon
Los Angeles
Luanda
Luxembourg
Luxor
Lyon
Madrid
Malaga
Manchester
Manila
Marseille
Mauritius
Melbourne
Menorca
Mexico City
Miami
Milan (Linate)
Milan (Malpensa)
Minneapolis
Montpellier
Montreal
Moscow (Domodedovo)
Moscow (Sheremetyevo)
Mumbai
Munich
Murcia
Muscat
Mykonos
Nairobi
Nantes
Nashville
Nassau
New Orleans
New York (JFK)
New York (Newark)
Newcastle
Nice
Olbia
Oslo (Gardermoen)
Ottawa
Palermo
Palma
Paris (CDG)
Paris (Orly)
Perth
Philadelphia
Phoenix
Pisa
Prague
Pula
Qingdao
Raleigh-Durham
Reykjavik
Rijeka
Rio De Janeiro (Galeao)
Riyadh
Rome (Fiumicino)
Salt Lake City
Salzburg
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose
Santiago
Santorini
Sao Paulo
Seattle - Tacoma
Seoul
Seychelles
Shanghai (Pudong)
Shannon
Singapore
Sofia
Split
St Johns
St Petersburg
Stavanger
Stockholm (Arlanda)
Stuttgart
Sydney
Sylhet
Taipei
Tallinn
Tashkent
Tehran
Tel Aviv
Tenerife South
Tenerife North
Tokyo (Haneda)
Tokyo (Narita)
Toronto
Toulouse
Tunis
Turin
Valletta
Vancouver
Venice
Vienna
Warsaw
Washington (Dulles)
Xian
Zagreb
Zakynthos
Zurich


This is just from one origin.
Try and find videos of all these routes.
Address the claim that was actually made.
Note, there are 214 different destinations here.


What is this? This is science.
No. This is the exact opposite of science.
It has very significant reporter bias where you fail to factor in how busy the route is to try and determine how likely it is to be filmed.
You do not address the actual argument made.


In this working, we have examined the 12 of 20 world's most airlines routes. In these routes, we have found videos of 10/12 of them all. We could not found flights one China and one India path, perhaps caused passangers were published them in Indian and Chinese languages and we could not found them. But generally we found videos belong most of pathes.
So you even failed to find them for some of the busiest routes.
Yet rather than pretend they are fake, you are fine with them existing.
If you can't find it for those routes, yet they can still be real you have refuted yourself.
A video is not required for a flight to be real.

You have also shown there is plenty of air traffic in Chile and South Africa.

debunked.
Oppositely, most of them have full time videos, mister.
There are far more than 20 air routes.
You have debunked nothing except yourself.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: smokified on May 07, 2018, 06:58:46 PM
rubbish deleted

I have gived the source. The list I gave is the worlds most crowd routes. You are just doing knowledge pollution to hide rout of rout'inoz. Ahahah. I pity you, the poor fellow.  ;D

You have no proof at all that this flight is "absent".  You just don't like the data because it ruined your pathetic attempt at creating a map based on flight times.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA27

I am sure you can find a contact in Sydney and a contact in Santiago to verify the plane taking off and landing.  You won't though, because you are so cowardly, you can't even admit when you are wrong.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: Machinist on May 07, 2018, 08:47:12 PM
Hey Brotherhood -

Many people have not flown very much at all.  I have only taken one commercial flight in my life.  Should this reasoning then dictate that I should not believe that any other flight exists except the one I took?  Or should I win the lotto and spend the rest of my life personally taking every flight I can just to prove to myself that the earth is not flat?  It would just be for myself because no one else would believe me.  They would all be lies and FAKE evidence, right?

I guess we should be asking, "Why is it called the Flat Earth Theory?"  If there is so much proof and evidence shouldn't it just be called the Flat Earth Fact?  I've seen the videos on YouTube that claim "100,000% proof of Flat Earth!"  Of course, us believers in the scientific method realize that 100% is all you really need to prove anything.  Anything more is just over-exaggeration, unnecessary and not really possible.  How can you have more than 100% proof of anything?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: smokified on May 07, 2018, 09:43:00 PM
crap is deleted

Sorry but you are alt of rabid'noz.

Your only aim is confuse and hide the rout of rabidnoz.

As all we see that, as everybody in the world see that; there is a video for most airline routes.

But there is no video about fake flights like  (QF27 & QF28), so that, they are fake. And you are fake human.

LOFL...  It is funny how you have to create lies just to keep believing your lies.  It is more funny how you are either completely oblivious to it (while trying to pretend you are the ultimate observer) or you are just lying to yourself (while trying to pretend you are the ultimate authority on truth).  I can assure your pathetically confused ass that I am not Rabinoz.  There isn't even a single similarity in our posting style.

I just took a flight from Minneapolis to Las Vegas and back.  Please show me the video proof of these flights.

Also, an you please explain the point of "quoting" somebody with false text when I can just as easily scroll up and see what that person actually said?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: rabinoz on May 07, 2018, 10:53:46 PM
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You're just aim to confuse people and hide my victory about rabid'oz, your patron.
Maybe you can claim victory over rabid'oz, but I'm RABinOZ and you've won no victory.

You're lying by claiming that these "Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)" don't exist because there are no full length flight videos proves nothing.

As you have been told numerous times, hundreds of thousands have flown those routes. If you don't believe it, that doesn't change the well know facts.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 08, 2018, 12:00:51 AM
Reply this, mister rabid'oz. At least say a pardon to prove you have a bit, very bit honor.


There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.


You mister, you are the one of the liar ever seen in the world. Do you sincere on this? Ok.

"most airline routes". Lets examine them all.

These are "most airline routes". Source is from your country, australia:

http://www.traveller.com.au/worlds-busiest-airline-flight-routes-melbournesydney-now-worlds-second-busiest-h0e7ha

World's 10 busiest air routes
1-Jeju-Seoul, South Korea: 64,991
2-Melbourne-Sydney, Australia: 54,519
3-Mumbai-Delhi, India: 47,462
4-Fukuoka-Tokyo Haneda, Japan: 42,835
5-Rio de Janeiro-Sao Paulo Congonhas, Brazil: 39,325
6-Sapporo-Tokyo, Japan: 38,389
7-Los Angeles-San Francisco, USA: 34,897
8-Brisbane-Sydney, Australia: 33,765
9-Cape Town-Johannesburg, South Africa: 31,914
10-Beijing-Shanghai, China: 30,029

World's busiest international air routes
1-Hong Kong-Taipei: 29,494
2-Kuala Lumpur-Singapore: 29,383
3-Jakarta-Singapore: 26,872
4-Jakarta-Kuala Lumpur: 20,890
5-Hong Kong-Shanghai: 20,818
6-New York La Guardia-Toronto: 17,116
7-Hong Kong-Seoul Incheon: 16,366
8-Beijing-Hong Kong: 14,592
9-Dublin-London Heathrow: 14,556
10-Bangkok-Singapore: 14,455

What is this? This is science. Now. Lets examine these "most airline routes" one by one and decide haven't they full time videos according to your claim, or have they?

World's 10 busiest air routes
1-Jeju-Seoul, South Korea: 64,991
Video:


2-Melbourne-Sydney, Australia: 54,519


3-Mumbai-Delhi, India: 47,462
Could not found.(possible language difference problem)

4-Fukuoka-Tokyo Haneda, Japan: 42,835


5-Rio de Janeiro-Sao Paulo Congonhas, Brazil: 39,325


6-Sapporo-Tokyo, Japan: 38,389


7-Los Angeles-San Francisco, USA: 34,897


8-Brisbane-Sydney, Australia: 33,765


9-Cape Town-Johannesburg, South Africa: 31,914


10-Beijing-Shanghai, China: 30,029
could not found, (possible language difference problem)

World's busiest international air routes
1-Hong Kong-Taipei: 29,494




2-Kuala Lumpur-Singapore: 29,383



Enough, I'm tired.  ;D

In this working, we have examined the 12 of 20 world's most airlines routes. In these routes, we have found videos of 10/12 of them all. We could not found flights one China and one India path, perhaps caused passangers were published them in Indian and Chinese languages and we could not found them. But generally we found videos belong most of pathes.

In short, the deceiver of the forum's claim as


There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.


debunked.

Oppositely, most of them have full time videos, mister.

So, do you give up the evil?

Give up the evil, devil'inoz!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: JackBlack on May 08, 2018, 02:19:51 AM
I have gived the source. The list I gave is the worlds most crowd routes. You are just doing knowledge pollution to hide rout of rout'inoz. Ahahah. I pity you, the poor fellow.  ;D
If you were deleting rubbish you would delete your own post, not mine.

Yes, you provided the most crowded routes, not most routes.
They are fundamentally different concepts.
Rab was not saying the most popular routes do not have videos.
Instead he was saying that if you get a list of all the routes, you will find most entries on that list do not have videos.
To put it another way, if you separated the routes into 2 categories, those of which there are videos and those of which there aren't, you would find the group which have videos is tiny in comparison to the group without.

All you did was set up a pathetic strawman and attacked that, refuting yourself in the process.
You did not address Rab's claim or debunk it in any way.

You're just many of one says same thing, instead of prove it. Everytime same thing dones. When you claim it, I ask for evidence. When I ask, you say there is no evidences for other routes.
Stop lying.
When you have asked for evidence, you were provided with it.
When you asked for specific evidence which is difficult to find or obtain, which you only ask for as a pathetic excuse to dismiss the existence of the flight, we point out this evidence is difficult to obtain and does not exist for most flights.

When I prove other routes has evidence
Except you only proved a few flights have this evidence, and they are some of the busiest routes flown (and thus most likely to have the evidence).
You have failed to show that all existing flights have this evidence, and thus your demand for this evidence is still insane.

You're a liar mister, you're a liar.
Projecting again I see.

As all we see that, as everybody in the world see that; there is a video for most airline routes.
That is just your delusional claim. We don't see that at all.
If you wish to assert such nonsense, you will need to back it up.
I provided a list of 214 routes.
Provide video for most of them. Then you will come close to backing up your claim.
So far you have only shown videos for 10. 10 is not most.
10 is barely any.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 08, 2018, 04:14:13 AM
Do not split my posts. I have never reply a post splitted to mine.
Yet here you are replying to it.
But of course, you can't actually address the arguments raised because you have no rational defence.

Provide the videos of the 214 flights, or your claim that most flights have videos is nothing more than pure bullshit.

You're saying lie like everytime you do. You, you sir, the world most liar! I'm not answering your splitted posts. I'm replying you only to say this, is not a reply, just a warning. Look, now I'm replying your argument, true?

You have not showed "most airline routes" that what your patron has claimed. You must provide the "most airline route" for talk about them. You are doing nothing but information pollution, just you aim to hide the rout of your patron.

I pity you. You are spending your last brain parts to defend a lie, you so pathetic.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: frenat on May 08, 2018, 05:32:50 AM
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Sorry but you are alt of rabid'noz.

Your only aim is confuse and hide the rout of rabidnoz.

As all we see that, as everybody in the world see that; there is a video for most airline routes.

But there is no video about fake flights like  (QF27 & QF28), so that, they are fake. And you are fake human.
You didn't show there were videos for most airline routes.  You showed there were videos for most of the busiest airline routes.  Can you not see the difference there? There are THOUSANDS of airline routes.  You have not proven there are videos for most of them. And you've ignored all other proof.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 08, 2018, 07:14:18 AM
crap is deleted

Sorry but you are alt of rabid'noz.

Your only aim is confuse and hide the rout of rabidnoz.

As all we see that, as everybody in the world see that; there is a video for most airline routes.

But there is no video about fake flights like  (QF27 & QF28), so that, they are fake. And you are fake human.
You didn't show there were videos for most airline routes.  You showed there were videos for most of the busiest airline routes.  Can you not see the difference there? There are THOUSANDS of airline routes.  You have not proven there are videos for most of them. And you've ignored all other proof.

Yes, I have proved most busiest ones. But I have already mentioned not so busiest ones. But we have make an examination about some "randomly selected routes" and decide if there is a video about it or not. I claim most of them has it.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: Lamaface on May 08, 2018, 07:45:24 AM
There are 1,250,000 flights on average per day ... I’m pretty sure most of them don’t have a full flight recording.

But don’t let that stop you. This will get you started: https://www.flightradar24.com/37.06,-100.23/4
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: wise on May 08, 2018, 12:20:16 PM
There are 1,250,000 flights on average per day ... I’m pretty sure most of them don’t have a full flight recording.

But don’t let that stop you. This will get you started: https://www.flightradar24.com/37.06,-100.23/4

We're talking about pathes, not every flight. There is almost more than 1.000 flights for every path. So that, the possiblity of any of them has a record is a strong possiblity. This is the reason of why most of them has a record.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: JackBlack on May 08, 2018, 02:30:44 PM
You have not showed "most airline routes" that what your patron has claimed. You must provide the "most airline route" for talk about them. You are doing nothing but information pollution, just you aim to hide the rout of your patron.
LEARN ENGLISH!!!
"most airline route" makes no sense.

You are focusing on the busiest airline routes or the most travelled airlines routes.
That is not most airline routes.

Most airline routes refers to the majority of airline routes.

As I said, if you take all airline routes and divide them into 2 groups, those with videos and those without, you will find most do not have videos.

I pity you. You are spending your last brain parts to defend a lie, you so pathetic.
No, that would still be you.
You can't address the claim made and spent all your effort defending your lie that most routes have videos, even though you have only been able to show it for the busiest routes and not even all of them.

But we have make an examination about some "randomly selected routes" and decide if there is a video about it or not. I claim most of them has it.
Yes, you baselessly claim that, without any evidence of that.
I provided a list of 213 (either I copied it wrong or I was off by one before, although I now realise not all of them are non stop), try picking some of them.
Or do I need to pick the route for you?

How about this (selected at random using excel)
Heathrow to Toulouse.
I found a video for the opposite direction, but it isn't real time.

And plenty of simulations.
So there is one without it.

Let's look at another:
Moscow (All are from Heathrow so I won't bother listing that each time).
I found one saying it is the full flight:

But it actually meant all the important bits, not the full flight itself, and that matches the time as well (only 1 hour for a 3.5 hour flight).
I also found some flight sim ones.
So that is 0/2 for you.

Another:
Rio De Janeiro
Again, no video.
0/3

This really isn't looking good for you.
(Note: I am only searching through the first few pages of google video results).
So I think that is enough to prove my point.

If you wish to claim most routes have videos and use that as a metric for if they are real or fake, you need to prove most routes have videos.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: faded mike on May 08, 2018, 11:08:20 PM


So far we have the ability to book the flight and plenty of people who have either flown the route or claim to know someone that has, with flight tracking indicating the routes are being flown and so on.
Meanwhile we just have your baseless claim that the flights are fake all because they don't fit your delusional map.



I don't think the flight tracking is very good evidence, at least not by flat earth standards.

I looked up one flight and the whole flight video was listed.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
Post by: Spinach on May 10, 2018, 05:16:28 AM
IF you find what you deem sufficient proof that these flights exist - would that change your views on FE in any way?
Would you acknowledge that most flat earth maps would have to be false?

Or would you just think that there must be some other explanations (like "fast jet streams") that would still make these flights possible on the more popular flat earth maps?
If you come 3:00 hours, then 11:00 hours, both are night and between it is daylight. So daylight is just 7 hours? It is clear there is missing at least 5 hours.

And the second one, but this time night continues about 14 hours. How is it possible? Impossible
Seeing how you don't seem to accept the concept that flying west or east can reduce or increase the amount of daylight hours, makes me think that proving anything to you would be difficult.

This footage was obviously from a flight-sim. But the fact that you're trying to disprove it by claiming it's impossible to take a flight with 14 hours of night time, is worrying.