Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)

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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #60 on: May 07, 2018, 02:14:44 PM »
Prove it by video or you're a liar. There is no complaint about Qantas because there is nobody want to fly to Santiago.
Come on, instead of USA, Brasil and Europe; which idiot want to go Santiago/Chile? Nobody. They know this, so they created this fraud.
There you go lying again.
Plenty of people fly the route.
If they didn't, the route wouldn't exist.
What reason do they have to lie about it?

So far we have the ability to book the flight and plenty of people who have either flown the route or claim to know someone that has, with flight tracking indicating the routes are being flown and so on.
Meanwhile we just have your baseless claim that the flights are fake all because they don't fit your delusional map.

"most airline routes". Lets examine them all.
These are "most airline routes". Source is from your country, australia:
No, these are the most flown routes or "busiest" routes by some other metric.
Theses are the ones that are most likely to have a video.

They are not most routes.
Here is a small example, from heathrow:
https://www.heathrow.com/plan-and-book-your-trip/destinations-and-airlines
Flying to the following destinations:
Aberdeen
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Accra
Addis Ababa
Agadir
Ahmedabad
Algiers
Almeria
Amman
Amsterdam
Ashgabat
Astana
Asturias
Athens
Atlanta
Auckland
Austin
Bahrain
Baku
Baltimore
Bandar Seri Begawan (Brunei)
Bangkok
Barcelona
Basel
Beijing
Beirut
Belfast City
Belgrade
Bengaluru
Bergen
Berlin (Tegel)
Biarritz
Bilbao
Billund
Bogota
Bologna
Boston
Bridgetown
Brindisi
Brussels
Bucharest (Otopeni)
Budapest
Buenos Aires
Cagliari
Cairo
Calgary
Cape Town
Casablanca
Changsha
Charlotte
Chennai
Chicago (O'Hare)
Cologne (Bonn)
Colombo
Copenhagen
Corfu
Cork
Crete
Dallas/Fort Worth
Delhi
Denver
Detroit
Dhaka
Doha
Dubai
Dublin
Dusseldorf
Edinburgh
Faro
Figari
Frankfurt
Geneva
Gibraltar
Glasgow
Grenoble
Gothenburg
Gran Canaria
Grand Cayman
Guangzhou
Halifax
Hamburg
Hanoi
Hanover
Helsinki
Ho Chi Minh City
Hong Kong
Houston
Hyderabad
Ibiza
Innsbruck
Inverness
Islamabad
Istanbul Ataturk
Jakarta
Jeddah
Johannesburg
Kalamata
Karachi
Kefalonia
Kiev (Borispol)
Krakow
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
La Coruna
Lagos
Lahore
Larnaca
Las Vegas
Leeds Bradford
Lisbon
Los Angeles
Luanda
Luxembourg
Luxor
Lyon
Madrid
Malaga
Manchester
Manila
Marseille
Mauritius
Melbourne
Menorca
Mexico City
Miami
Milan (Linate)
Milan (Malpensa)
Minneapolis
Montpellier
Montreal
Moscow (Domodedovo)
Moscow (Sheremetyevo)
Mumbai
Munich
Murcia
Muscat
Mykonos
Nairobi
Nantes
Nashville
Nassau
New Orleans
New York (JFK)
New York (Newark)
Newcastle
Nice
Olbia
Oslo (Gardermoen)
Ottawa
Palermo
Palma
Paris (CDG)
Paris (Orly)
Perth
Philadelphia
Phoenix
Pisa
Prague
Pula
Qingdao
Raleigh-Durham
Reykjavik
Rijeka
Rio De Janeiro (Galeao)
Riyadh
Rome (Fiumicino)
Salt Lake City
Salzburg
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose
Santiago
Santorini
Sao Paulo
Seattle - Tacoma
Seoul
Seychelles
Shanghai (Pudong)
Shannon
Singapore
Sofia
Split
St Johns
St Petersburg
Stavanger
Stockholm (Arlanda)
Stuttgart
Sydney
Sylhet
Taipei
Tallinn
Tashkent
Tehran
Tel Aviv
Tenerife South
Tenerife North
Tokyo (Haneda)
Tokyo (Narita)
Toronto
Toulouse
Tunis
Turin
Valletta
Vancouver
Venice
Vienna
Warsaw
Washington (Dulles)
Xian
Zagreb
Zakynthos
Zurich


This is just from one origin.
Try and find videos of all these routes.
Address the claim that was actually made.
Note, there are 214 different destinations here.


What is this? This is science.
No. This is the exact opposite of science.
It has very significant reporter bias where you fail to factor in how busy the route is to try and determine how likely it is to be filmed.
You do not address the actual argument made.


In this working, we have examined the 12 of 20 world's most airlines routes. In these routes, we have found videos of 10/12 of them all. We could not found flights one China and one India path, perhaps caused passangers were published them in Indian and Chinese languages and we could not found them. But generally we found videos belong most of pathes.
So you even failed to find them for some of the busiest routes.
Yet rather than pretend they are fake, you are fine with them existing.
If you can't find it for those routes, yet they can still be real you have refuted yourself.
A video is not required for a flight to be real.

You have also shown there is plenty of air traffic in Chile and South Africa.

debunked.
Oppositely, most of them have full time videos, mister.
There are far more than 20 air routes.
You have debunked nothing except yourself.
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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #61 on: May 07, 2018, 06:58:46 PM »
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I have gived the source. The list I gave is the worlds most crowd routes. You are just doing knowledge pollution to hide rout of rout'inoz. Ahahah. I pity you, the poor fellow.  ;D

You have no proof at all that this flight is "absent".  You just don't like the data because it ruined your pathetic attempt at creating a map based on flight times.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA27

I am sure you can find a contact in Sydney and a contact in Santiago to verify the plane taking off and landing.  You won't though, because you are so cowardly, you can't even admit when you are wrong.

Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #62 on: May 07, 2018, 08:47:12 PM »
Hey Brotherhood -

Many people have not flown very much at all.  I have only taken one commercial flight in my life.  Should this reasoning then dictate that I should not believe that any other flight exists except the one I took?  Or should I win the lotto and spend the rest of my life personally taking every flight I can just to prove to myself that the earth is not flat?  It would just be for myself because no one else would believe me.  They would all be lies and FAKE evidence, right?

I guess we should be asking, "Why is it called the Flat Earth Theory?"  If there is so much proof and evidence shouldn't it just be called the Flat Earth Fact?  I've seen the videos on YouTube that claim "100,000% proof of Flat Earth!"  Of course, us believers in the scientific method realize that 100% is all you really need to prove anything.  Anything more is just over-exaggeration, unnecessary and not really possible.  How can you have more than 100% proof of anything?

Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #63 on: May 07, 2018, 09:43:00 PM »
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Sorry but you are alt of rabid'noz.

Your only aim is confuse and hide the rout of rabidnoz.

As all we see that, as everybody in the world see that; there is a video for most airline routes.

But there is no video about fake flights like  (QF27 & QF28), so that, they are fake. And you are fake human.

LOFL...  It is funny how you have to create lies just to keep believing your lies.  It is more funny how you are either completely oblivious to it (while trying to pretend you are the ultimate observer) or you are just lying to yourself (while trying to pretend you are the ultimate authority on truth).  I can assure your pathetically confused ass that I am not Rabinoz.  There isn't even a single similarity in our posting style.

I just took a flight from Minneapolis to Las Vegas and back.  Please show me the video proof of these flights.

Also, an you please explain the point of "quoting" somebody with false text when I can just as easily scroll up and see what that person actually said?
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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2018, 10:53:46 PM »
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You're just aim to confuse people and hide my victory about rabid'oz, your patron.
Maybe you can claim victory over rabid'oz, but I'm RABinOZ and you've won no victory.

You're lying by claiming that these "Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)" don't exist because there are no full length flight videos proves nothing.

As you have been told numerous times, hundreds of thousands have flown those routes. If you don't believe it, that doesn't change the well know facts.

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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2018, 12:00:51 AM »
Reply this, mister rabid'oz. At least say a pardon to prove you have a bit, very bit honor.


There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.


You mister, you are the one of the liar ever seen in the world. Do you sincere on this? Ok.

"most airline routes". Lets examine them all.

These are "most airline routes". Source is from your country, australia:

http://www.traveller.com.au/worlds-busiest-airline-flight-routes-melbournesydney-now-worlds-second-busiest-h0e7ha

World's 10 busiest air routes
1-Jeju-Seoul, South Korea: 64,991
2-Melbourne-Sydney, Australia: 54,519
3-Mumbai-Delhi, India: 47,462
4-Fukuoka-Tokyo Haneda, Japan: 42,835
5-Rio de Janeiro-Sao Paulo Congonhas, Brazil: 39,325
6-Sapporo-Tokyo, Japan: 38,389
7-Los Angeles-San Francisco, USA: 34,897
8-Brisbane-Sydney, Australia: 33,765
9-Cape Town-Johannesburg, South Africa: 31,914
10-Beijing-Shanghai, China: 30,029

World's busiest international air routes
1-Hong Kong-Taipei: 29,494
2-Kuala Lumpur-Singapore: 29,383
3-Jakarta-Singapore: 26,872
4-Jakarta-Kuala Lumpur: 20,890
5-Hong Kong-Shanghai: 20,818
6-New York La Guardia-Toronto: 17,116
7-Hong Kong-Seoul Incheon: 16,366
8-Beijing-Hong Kong: 14,592
9-Dublin-London Heathrow: 14,556
10-Bangkok-Singapore: 14,455

What is this? This is science. Now. Lets examine these "most airline routes" one by one and decide haven't they full time videos according to your claim, or have they?

World's 10 busiest air routes
1-Jeju-Seoul, South Korea: 64,991
Video:


2-Melbourne-Sydney, Australia: 54,519


3-Mumbai-Delhi, India: 47,462
Could not found.(possible language difference problem)

4-Fukuoka-Tokyo Haneda, Japan: 42,835


5-Rio de Janeiro-Sao Paulo Congonhas, Brazil: 39,325


6-Sapporo-Tokyo, Japan: 38,389


7-Los Angeles-San Francisco, USA: 34,897


8-Brisbane-Sydney, Australia: 33,765


9-Cape Town-Johannesburg, South Africa: 31,914


10-Beijing-Shanghai, China: 30,029
could not found, (possible language difference problem)

World's busiest international air routes
1-Hong Kong-Taipei: 29,494




2-Kuala Lumpur-Singapore: 29,383



Enough, I'm tired.  ;D

In this working, we have examined the 12 of 20 world's most airlines routes. In these routes, we have found videos of 10/12 of them all. We could not found flights one China and one India path, perhaps caused passangers were published them in Indian and Chinese languages and we could not found them. But generally we found videos belong most of pathes.

In short, the deceiver of the forum's claim as


There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.


debunked.

Oppositely, most of them have full time videos, mister.

So, do you give up the evil?

Give up the evil, devil'inoz!
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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2018, 02:19:51 AM »
I have gived the source. The list I gave is the worlds most crowd routes. You are just doing knowledge pollution to hide rout of rout'inoz. Ahahah. I pity you, the poor fellow.  ;D
If you were deleting rubbish you would delete your own post, not mine.

Yes, you provided the most crowded routes, not most routes.
They are fundamentally different concepts.
Rab was not saying the most popular routes do not have videos.
Instead he was saying that if you get a list of all the routes, you will find most entries on that list do not have videos.
To put it another way, if you separated the routes into 2 categories, those of which there are videos and those of which there aren't, you would find the group which have videos is tiny in comparison to the group without.

All you did was set up a pathetic strawman and attacked that, refuting yourself in the process.
You did not address Rab's claim or debunk it in any way.

You're just many of one says same thing, instead of prove it. Everytime same thing dones. When you claim it, I ask for evidence. When I ask, you say there is no evidences for other routes.
Stop lying.
When you have asked for evidence, you were provided with it.
When you asked for specific evidence which is difficult to find or obtain, which you only ask for as a pathetic excuse to dismiss the existence of the flight, we point out this evidence is difficult to obtain and does not exist for most flights.

When I prove other routes has evidence
Except you only proved a few flights have this evidence, and they are some of the busiest routes flown (and thus most likely to have the evidence).
You have failed to show that all existing flights have this evidence, and thus your demand for this evidence is still insane.

You're a liar mister, you're a liar.
Projecting again I see.

As all we see that, as everybody in the world see that; there is a video for most airline routes.
That is just your delusional claim. We don't see that at all.
If you wish to assert such nonsense, you will need to back it up.
I provided a list of 214 routes.
Provide video for most of them. Then you will come close to backing up your claim.
So far you have only shown videos for 10. 10 is not most.
10 is barely any.

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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2018, 04:14:13 AM »
Do not split my posts. I have never reply a post splitted to mine.
Yet here you are replying to it.
But of course, you can't actually address the arguments raised because you have no rational defence.

Provide the videos of the 214 flights, or your claim that most flights have videos is nothing more than pure bullshit.

You're saying lie like everytime you do. You, you sir, the world most liar! I'm not answering your splitted posts. I'm replying you only to say this, is not a reply, just a warning. Look, now I'm replying your argument, true?

You have not showed "most airline routes" that what your patron has claimed. You must provide the "most airline route" for talk about them. You are doing nothing but information pollution, just you aim to hide the rout of your patron.

I pity you. You are spending your last brain parts to defend a lie, you so pathetic.
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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #68 on: May 08, 2018, 05:32:50 AM »
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Sorry but you are alt of rabid'noz.

Your only aim is confuse and hide the rout of rabidnoz.

As all we see that, as everybody in the world see that; there is a video for most airline routes.

But there is no video about fake flights like  (QF27 & QF28), so that, they are fake. And you are fake human.
You didn't show there were videos for most airline routes.  You showed there were videos for most of the busiest airline routes.  Can you not see the difference there? There are THOUSANDS of airline routes.  You have not proven there are videos for most of them. And you've ignored all other proof.
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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #69 on: May 08, 2018, 07:14:18 AM »
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Sorry but you are alt of rabid'noz.

Your only aim is confuse and hide the rout of rabidnoz.

As all we see that, as everybody in the world see that; there is a video for most airline routes.

But there is no video about fake flights like  (QF27 & QF28), so that, they are fake. And you are fake human.
You didn't show there were videos for most airline routes.  You showed there were videos for most of the busiest airline routes.  Can you not see the difference there? There are THOUSANDS of airline routes.  You have not proven there are videos for most of them. And you've ignored all other proof.

Yes, I have proved most busiest ones. But I have already mentioned not so busiest ones. But we have make an examination about some "randomly selected routes" and decide if there is a video about it or not. I claim most of them has it.
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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #70 on: May 08, 2018, 07:45:24 AM »
There are 1,250,000 flights on average per day ... Iím pretty sure most of them donít have a full flight recording.

But donít let that stop you. This will get you started: https://www.flightradar24.com/37.06,-100.23/4
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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #71 on: May 08, 2018, 12:20:16 PM »
There are 1,250,000 flights on average per day ... Iím pretty sure most of them donít have a full flight recording.

But donít let that stop you. This will get you started: https://www.flightradar24.com/37.06,-100.23/4

We're talking about pathes, not every flight. There is almost more than 1.000 flights for every path. So that, the possiblity of any of them has a record is a strong possiblity. This is the reason of why most of them has a record.
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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #72 on: May 08, 2018, 02:30:44 PM »
You have not showed "most airline routes" that what your patron has claimed. You must provide the "most airline route" for talk about them. You are doing nothing but information pollution, just you aim to hide the rout of your patron.
LEARN ENGLISH!!!
"most airline route" makes no sense.

You are focusing on the busiest airline routes or the most travelled airlines routes.
That is not most airline routes.

Most airline routes refers to the majority of airline routes.

As I said, if you take all airline routes and divide them into 2 groups, those with videos and those without, you will find most do not have videos.

I pity you. You are spending your last brain parts to defend a lie, you so pathetic.
No, that would still be you.
You can't address the claim made and spent all your effort defending your lie that most routes have videos, even though you have only been able to show it for the busiest routes and not even all of them.

But we have make an examination about some "randomly selected routes" and decide if there is a video about it or not. I claim most of them has it.
Yes, you baselessly claim that, without any evidence of that.
I provided a list of 213 (either I copied it wrong or I was off by one before, although I now realise not all of them are non stop), try picking some of them.
Or do I need to pick the route for you?

How about this (selected at random using excel)
Heathrow to Toulouse.
I found a video for the opposite direction, but it isn't real time.

And plenty of simulations.
So there is one without it.

Let's look at another:
Moscow (All are from Heathrow so I won't bother listing that each time).
I found one saying it is the full flight:

But it actually meant all the important bits, not the full flight itself, and that matches the time as well (only 1 hour for a 3.5 hour flight).
I also found some flight sim ones.
So that is 0/2 for you.

Another:
Rio De Janeiro
Again, no video.
0/3

This really isn't looking good for you.
(Note: I am only searching through the first few pages of google video results).
So I think that is enough to prove my point.

If you wish to claim most routes have videos and use that as a metric for if they are real or fake, you need to prove most routes have videos.

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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #73 on: May 08, 2018, 11:08:20 PM »


So far we have the ability to book the flight and plenty of people who have either flown the route or claim to know someone that has, with flight tracking indicating the routes are being flown and so on.
Meanwhile we just have your baseless claim that the flights are fake all because they don't fit your delusional map.



I don't think the flight tracking is very good evidence, at least not by flat earth standards.

I looked up one flight and the whole flight video was listed.
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Re: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2018, 05:16:28 AM »
IF you find what you deem sufficient proof that these flights exist - would that change your views on FE in any way?
Would you acknowledge that most flat earth maps would have to be false?

Or would you just think that there must be some other explanations (like "fast jet streams") that would still make these flights possible on the more popular flat earth maps?
If you come 3:00 hours, then 11:00 hours, both are night and between it is daylight. So daylight is just 7 hours? It is clear there is missing at least 5 hours.

And the second one, but this time night continues about 14 hours. How is it possible? Impossible
Seeing how you don't seem to accept the concept that flying west or east can reduce or increase the amount of daylight hours, makes me think that proving anything to you would be difficult.

This footage was obviously from a flight-sim. But the fact that you're trying to disprove it by claiming it's impossible to take a flight with 14 hours of night time, is worrying.
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