A challenge for FEers

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Duck

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« on: February 11, 2007, 04:45:11 PM »
Disprove... GO!
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T^2=k{4∏^2 a^3 /(G(M+m)cos^2 i)}{(m/M)(r/R)+(M/m)(D/d)(2*(r/(∏ak)))^2 }

T=Rotation period of the large body (sec)
K=Moment of inertia factor of the large body.
M= Large body mass or parent Body mass (kg)
G=Gravitational constant.
R= Polar radius for the large body(meter)
D= Density for the large body(Kg/m3)
a=semimajor axis for the mass center of all satellites that orbit large body (meter)
  =Distance between the large body center and the center of masses of all satellites that orbit this large body.
i=Orbit inclination degree for the mass center of all satellites that orbit large body (degrees)
m=Total mass of all satellites that orbit the large body (kg)
d= Mean density for the total satellites that orbit large body(Kg/m3)
r =Mean Polar radius of all satellites that orbit the large body (meter)

The Earth has one satellite (the Moon)

K=0.331
M=5.9736E+24 (kg)
R= 6.3568E+6(meter)
D= 5515(Kg/m3)


a=3.844E+8 (meter)
i=5.14 (degrees)
m=7.35E+22 (kg)
d= 3340(Kg/m3)
r =1735000 (meter)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_equation
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http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/57576.html
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Explain how a ship can sail in a straight path from the east asian shore and appear on the US West coast.
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5)If NASA has never sent a rocket into space (more technically orbit above the stratoshpere), than explain satellites. Look up the path of a satellite that is scheduled to pass over your home tonight, go outside, and watch it zip accurately by.

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I'll post more later.
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2007, 05:52:29 PM »
17 views and no takers?
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2007, 06:02:40 PM »
Quote from: "Duck"
17 views and no takers?


Good boy duck!

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2007, 06:03:43 PM »
you'll never get any response out of them

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Duck

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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2007, 06:05:52 PM »
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you'll never get any response out of them


Most probably, but they could assemble and take a crack at it.

"Lol, when I said assemble I thought of thundercats."
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2007, 06:05:54 PM »
Oi, duck. You could tell me where to look that?

I would love to see a satellite go past, that be wicked. I've seen 'em before, but always love watching 'em.

cheers mate

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2007, 06:53:08 PM »
Still no takers...They won't bother tho they only argue points which they can explain with Magic and Ancient Mayan calenders, anything so unprovable by FE theory they wont discuss...and they say we're ignorant.
...population who believe in globularism solely on the basis of having been told so?

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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2007, 06:56:04 PM »
Your equation is a conspiracy.

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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2007, 07:04:01 PM »
1) How am I to disprove or even prove this? Do you want me to solve for the rotation period of earth using the assumed variables undoubtedly provided by those in on this entire conspiracy. Why would I use the mass of a round earth, or even the density?
2) Just under the false theorys.
3) Thanks for these links.
4) by going in a straight line
5) these have been explained multiple times

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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2007, 07:12:30 PM »
Quote from: "edlloyd"
Oi, duck. You could tell me where to look that?

I would love to see a satellite go past, that be wicked. I've seen 'em before, but always love watching 'em.

cheers mate


http://science.nasa.gov/Realtime/JTrack/

This should work. cheers  :D
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2007, 07:14:20 PM »
Quote from: "Duck"
Quote from: "edlloyd"
Oi, duck. You could tell me where to look that?

I would love to see a satellite go past, that be wicked. I've seen 'em before, but always love watching 'em.

cheers mate


http://science.nasa.gov/Realtime/JTrack/

This should work. cheers  :D


bollocks...zip code only works for america. cheers anyway though

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edlloyd

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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2007, 07:15:49 PM »
Quote from: "Vetsin"
1) How am I to disprove or even prove this? Do you want me to solve for the rotation period of earth using the assumed variables undoubtedly provided by those in on this entire conspiracy. Why would I use the mass of a round earth, or even the density?
2) Just under the false theorys.
3) Thanks for these links.
4) by going in a straight line
5) these have been explained multiple times


Your FE map...
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3500

How could travel a straight line from asia to america? it's bent round

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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2007, 07:16:42 PM »
Quote from: "edlloyd"
Quote from: "Duck"
Quote from: "edlloyd"
Oi, duck. You could tell me where to look that?

I would love to see a satellite go past, that be wicked. I've seen 'em before, but always love watching 'em.

cheers mate


http://science.nasa.gov/Realtime/JTrack/

This should work. cheers  :D


bollocks...zip code only works for america. cheers anyway though


It's a conspiracy!!!! :shock:

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Vetsin

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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2007, 07:18:08 PM »
Then obviously its not possible to travel in a straight line.

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edlloyd

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2007, 07:18:25 PM »
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "edlloyd"
Quote from: "Duck"
Quote from: "edlloyd"
Oi, duck. You could tell me where to look that?

I would love to see a satellite go past, that be wicked. I've seen 'em before, but always love watching 'em.

cheers mate


http://science.nasa.gov/Realtime/JTrack/

This should work. cheers  :D


bollocks...zip code only works for america. cheers anyway though


It's a conspiracy!!!! :shock:


so not all world goverments then?? knobhead

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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2007, 07:20:40 PM »

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Duck

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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2007, 07:23:06 PM »
Quote from: "Vetsin"
1) How am I to disprove or even prove this? Do you want me to solve for the rotation period of earth using the assumed variables undoubtedly provided by those in on this entire conspiracy. Why would I use the mass of a round earth, or even the density?
2) Just under the false theorys.
3) Thanks for these links.
4) by going in a straight line
5) these have been explained multiple times


1) (1 is actually for celestial bodies, not just earth, and it's used to find that it takes 23.9 hours for earth to make a complete rotation) So, if you don't use the mass/density for a round earth, what's the mass/density of the flat (I never saw those numbers in the FAQ)? And how do you know that it isn't more or less than that?
2) Well then, where's the calculations for your theories?
3) No problem
4) There is a point to be made by #4: where's the edge?
5) Don't just explain it, anything can be explained! I could explain how stupid these "FE" theories really are, and it can be excepted or not by those who view my explaination. I want the FE theories to be proven through logical and reasonable reasonings AND findings. But, some may say that it can't be done to a theory: yes it can. Where's the inferior mathematics to prove FE.
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edlloyd

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2007, 07:23:39 PM »
Quote from: "crazyidiot"
http://science.nasa.gov/Realtime/JTrack/3d/JTrack3D.html
is better


how fuckin cools that.

i just missed by about...20mins it seems

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Duck

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2007, 07:28:49 PM »
Quote from: "edlloyd"
Quote from: "Vetsin"
1) How am I to disprove or even prove this? Do you want me to solve for the rotation period of earth using the assumed variables undoubtedly provided by those in on this entire conspiracy. Why would I use the mass of a round earth, or even the density?
2) Just under the false theorys.
3) Thanks for these links.
4) by going in a straight line
5) these have been explained multiple times


Your FE map...
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3500

How could travel a straight line from asia to america? it's bent round


There's a fundemental flaw with this map... alaska doesn't connect with asia anymore, not since the bering straight land bridge eroded and submerged a few thousand or so years ago. The only possible way for them to connect is during midwinter by sea ice, which is oh-so dangerous.

I know this because I LIVE in alaska, I've been up and down the coasts here.

RE: 100 +1
FE: 0

(P.S. that's probably been mentioned already, but whatev's)
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2007, 07:43:56 PM »
Quote from: "Duck"
5) Don't just explain it, anything can be explained! I could explain how stupid these "FE" theories really are, and it can be excepted or not by those who view my explaination. I want the FE theories to be proven through logical and reasonable reasonings AND findings. But, some may say that it can't be done to a theory: yes it can. Where's the inferior mathematics to prove FE.


I want you to prove what the mechanism for gravity is.... oh wait...

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Duck

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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2007, 07:56:32 PM »
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "Duck"
5) Don't just explain it, anything can be explained! I could explain how stupid these "FE" theories really are, and it can be excepted or not by those who view my explaination. I want the FE theories to be proven through logical and reasonable reasonings AND findings. But, some may say that it can't be done to a theory: yes it can. Where's the inferior mathematics to prove FE.


I want you to prove what the mechanism for gravity is.... oh wait...


Einstein's theories of relativity, have you read 'em? Oh, and if you want to go deeper into the theoretical physics field, look up string theory.
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Rick_James

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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2007, 07:58:26 PM »
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Einstein's theories of relativity, have you read 'em? Oh, and if you want to go deeper into the theoretical physics field, look up string theory.


While I'm doing that ( :roll: ) go look up Gravitons, then come let me know once it's decided if they exist or not. :?

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Duck

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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2007, 08:08:58 PM »
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Quote from: "Duck"
Einstein's theories of relativity, have you read 'em? Oh, and if you want to go deeper into the theoretical physics field, look up string theory.


While I'm doing that ( :roll: ) go look up Gravitons, then come let me know once it's decided if they exist or not. :?


Why stop at gravitons? What about tachyons?

Gravitons: "In physics, the graviton is a hypothetical elementary particle that mediates the force of gravity in the framework of quantum field theory." Keyword: mediates, gravitons aren't gravity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton

EDIT: I'm not confirming nor denying that they are proven to exist, what I'm saying is that the mathematics is balanced and checks out. With possible further advancements in the field of string theory, proof may come with a graviton device that can relay data from our slice of the universe with another.
Tachyons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon

Oh, and if the thought comes about your head: wikipedia is easier than explaining individually because it's compiled by multiple persons, hence contains the least bias towards either side of the argument.
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Rick_James

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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2007, 08:14:28 PM »
Quote from: "Duck"

Why stop at gravitons? What about tachyons?

Gravitons: "In physics, the graviton is a hypothetical elementary particle that mediates the force of gravity in the framework of quantum field theory." Keyword: mediates, gravitons aren't gravity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton


Tachyons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon

Oh, and if the thought comes about your head: wikipedia is easier than explaining individually because it's compiled by multiple persons, hence contains the least bias towards either side of the argument.


I have no problems with wiki.

I would, however, have looked at that excerpt a slightly different way:

Quote from: "Duck"

Gravitons: "In physics, the graviton is a hypothetical elementary particle that mediates the force of gravity in the framework of quantum field theory."

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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2007, 08:34:51 PM »
I am sorry i don't mean to sound rude but is this site some big joke?


It must be if not are you people stuck in the 17th century. Do you seriously believe that if you go the edge fo the horison you will fall off? Everyone knows that the Earth is round. Monkeys know it i bet you.

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Duck

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« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2007, 08:40:02 PM »
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I am sorry i don't mean to sound rude but is this site some big joke?


It must be if not are you people stuck in the 17th century. Do you seriously believe that if you go the edge fo the horison you will fall off? Everyone knows that the Earth is round. Monkeys know it i bet you.


I'm sure this site has plenty of trolls about, don't worry.
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« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2007, 09:04:09 PM »
I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2007, 11:39:25 PM »
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Your FE map...
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3500

How could travel a straight line from asia to america? it's bent round

I hope you're not serious about that.