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« on: January 08, 2006, 10:38:25 AM »
realizing that the flat earthers are failing, I decieded to creat explinations that they should have come up wuth to defend themselves.

I took questions from another post and will start with those. Any other questions from round earthers like myself, i will be happy to answer.

Why the earth could be flat(although it isnt)


Why are there time zones? Why is it that some areas experience night time while some experience day time?

The sun and the moon revolve around the circumfrence of the world, each on opposite sides. So while one side of the world is day, the other is night. Time zones basically work the same way as round earth.

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Why is it that as you move away from a tall structure its top disappears first?


Even on round earth Ive never really noticed that but yeh it's true that it happens. Heres how flat earthers should explain it.

 Clouds. The angle from which you are standing makes it so that the clouds are covering the top of the building. All this really depends on the hight of the building, the distince from it, and the area surrounding the building. I'm assuming the building would have to be verytall or you'd be very far away. The top of the building is also the furthest point so eyesight plays a factor also.

Not the best but better then anything anyone else came up with.

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Why is it that when you look out into the ocean the horizon appears curved?

 Because the circumfrence has a curve and you are seeing the circumfrence in the distance. wow, wasnt too hard.

Why is it not possible to see the Washington Monument from the top of the Empire State Building with binoculars?

Because it's really really really far. And clouds and pollution and smog in the air make it hard to see. Thats not bullshit, pollution sucks for all of us man.

I see satellites up in the sky at night. How would they be able to orbit a flat Earth?

Doing this, I'll probably end up making a new theory of gravity also. The satellites are either really high above the earth circling the circumfrence or  gravity does exist on flat earth. On a round earth gravity is pulling to the center. On a flat earth, gravity is pulling where ever the earth is, but mainly the middle. The satellites could go up over the world, then down under the world. Or something like that. Let's assume the middle of the flat earth is the strongest point of gravity. the satellites could go from one end to the other, the slingshot back to the first end but in a different place. You know those pendulems that knock over those dominos, like that. Always comes back in a different place. Those are sattelites that circle the world. I think there are sattelites that mainly stay around some places so there the center is different and the slingshot loop is smaller.



Flawed, yes. Better then anything anyone else came up with, Yes too. any other questions ask away ill be happy to bullshit.  :D

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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2006, 02:34:33 PM »
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Why are there time zones? Why is it that some areas experience night time while some experience day time?

The sun and the moon revolve around the circumfrence of the world, each on opposite sides. So while one side of the world is day, the other is night. Time zones basically work the same way as round earth.

There is a big problem with this: if the sun and the moon go round the circumference of the flat Earth, then how does the sun appear "above" us at noon during summertime? A sun going round the circumference would not be able to do this.

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Why is it that as you move away from a tall structure its top disappears first?

Even on round earth Ive never really noticed that but yeh it's true that it happens. Heres how flat earthers should explain it.

 Clouds. The angle from which you are standing makes it so that the clouds are covering the top of the building. All this really depends on the hight of the building, the distince from it, and the area surrounding the building. I'm assuming the building would have to be verytall or you'd be very far away. The top of the building is also the furthest point so eyesight plays a factor also.

This explanation is completely nullified by the absence of any clouds on a (get it) cloudless day: clouds don't cover anything if they aren't there. That the top is further away from one (not by much, either) still does not explain why the top is still completely visible when the bottom has completely disappeared (presumably the clouds, when they are actually there, are instead covering up the bottom of the tower? . . .)

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Why is it that when you look out into the ocean the horizon appears curved?

 Because the circumfrence has a curve and you are seeing the circumfrence in the distance. wow, wasnt too hard.

Perspective would not have this effect on a flat circle which, relative to your own position, is nearly at the same height as yourself but just very far away: a circle of that circumference should appear like a straight line; what we see instead is an downward curve off to either side. A large circle very faw away would not look like this.

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Why is it not possible to see the Washington Monument from the top of the Empire State Building with binoculars

Because it's really really really far. And clouds and pollution and smog in the air make it hard to see. Thats not bullshit, pollution sucks for all of us man.

The first part isn't an explanation: it's a restatement of the question. The second part doesn't apply in remote places like Papua New Guinea where pollution is almost nil: it's still the case that you can't see more than about 12 miles away.

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I see satellites up in the sky at night. How would they be able to orbit a flat Earth?

Doing this, I'll probably end up making a new theory of gravity also. The satellites are either really high above the earth circling the circumfrence or  gravity does exist on flat earth. On a round earth gravity is pulling to the center. On a flat earth, gravity is pulling where ever the earth is, but mainly the middle. The satellites could go up over the world, then down under the world. Or something like that. Let's assume the middle of the flat earth is the strongest point of gravity. the satellites could go from one end to the other, the slingshot back to the first end but in a different place. You know those pendulems that knock over those dominos, like that. Always comes back in a different place. Those are sattelites that circle the world. I think there are sattelites that mainly stay around some places so there the center is different and the slingshot loop is smaller.

Since gravity varies only slightly wherever you go on the Earth, you theory breaks down at the point where you assume that the gravity is strongest at the North pole. This mistake invalidates the rest of your argument, so I'll say no more.

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Flawed, yes. Better then anything anyone else came up with, Yes too. any other questions ask away ill be happy to bullshit.

Do you have to?

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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2006, 02:36:32 PM »
not really, i was bored and i thought maybe if i made up some better bull shit then bullhorn id be amused :D

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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2006, 02:38:26 PM »
Umm . . .  it's kind of . . . well . . . not any . . . like, better. It's just, really, the same.

Sorry.  :D

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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2006, 02:41:31 PM »
no because bullhorn only uses that "its an optical illusion" crap and "government conspericy" shit.

anywho your turn. see what you can come up with and if its better then bullhorn.  :P it's really a good way to waste time

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2006, 04:11:21 PM »
Okay, agreed. You didn't use the usual staples of the flat Earth repertiore.

I'm not sure if I can do much better for the opposite case, however. There are not many things which stand up to merely throwing one's hands up and saying that everything everyone knows is part of a gigantic multinational government conspiracy lasting possibly thousands of years with the sole intent of keeping everyone in the dark about the fact that the Earth is actually flat. I don't really know what benefit any government gains from this.

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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2006, 04:58:06 PM »
yeh me neither but whatever, arguing and debating with these guys is amusing