Gyrocompasses make use of very real Earth’s Rotation

We already know it works as any standard compass on Earth

No, we know the exact opposite.
That it DOESN'T work like a regular compass.
A regular compass points to magnet north, and can easily be fooled by a nearby magnet or by large chunks of metal.
A gyrocompass points to true north, and is not affected by nearby magnets or large chunks of metal.

So we know that isn't the case at all.

So again, explain how gyrocompasses work in your fantasy or admit you can't.

I posted a source on the other thread about this that explains it just like I’ve already explained it to you over and over.

I guess you ball Earthers started two threads on this because you thought it supported your nonsense ball Earth. One thread will do, I’ve shown it supports the flat Earth just like all their other instruments do

I posted a source on the other thread

You mean you spammed another thread with complete and utter crap because you couldn't defend your pathetic BS in it.

And when you did, you didn't post about a gyrocompass, but about a gyromagnetic compass, so that crap isn't even relavent for this thread.
i.e. you just continually spam crap because you can't defend your BS.

And no, the 2 threads are fundamentally different.
One thread is discussing the self-righting mechanism on gyroscopic instruments in a plane, this is how a gyrocompass works.

So stop with all the pathetic BS and explain how a gyrocompass works in your pathetic fantasy.

If you can't, admit you can't, and move on.

They all measure for the center point on Earth, they call ‘north’.

They never at all measure for any ‘south’ pole or point!

Australia is claimed to be near the ‘south pole’, so why are we never measuring for a South Pole in Australia? Every point on Earth measures for only the ‘north pole’?

No, all points on Earth are measuring for its center point on a flat Earth, that’s why every place on Earth measures for the center point of flat Earth!

They all measure for the center point on Earth, they call ‘north’.
They never at all measure for any ‘south’ pole or point!

Just baselessly asserting this pathetic crap doesn't help you at all.
Instead, it just shows you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

A magnetic compass does not magically measure for the centre point of Earth.
Instead, it simply aligns with the magnetic field.

Likewise, a gyrocompass doesn't magically point to the centre eitehr.
Instead, it aligns with Earth's axis of rotation.

And these are typically different.

And notice what you have entirely failed to do in this completely useless and worthless post of yours?
Explain how it works.

Again, stop with all the pathetic BS and explain how a gyrocompass could ever work in your delusional fantasy.

They made up another bs story, of the ball Earth, of having this great molten hot core in the ball Earths middle, of it holding in that core, a most powerful force, which pulls down and holds down to Earths ball surface all things that exist on ball Earth, of the ball Earth rotating itself within an endless universe once every 24 hours plus a bit more, etc.

But again, what I told you about how it’s supposedly adjusting for a ball Earth rotation, entirely contradicts what you’ve already claimed over and over again, that the air and all things within the air will rotate with the ball Earths rotation as one thing!

Certainly you’ve claimed planes are also following with Earths rotation, whatever its paths are, opposite of the rotation or with it or whatever else they go!

Now you’re trying to claim planes have an instrument measuring for drift off of Earths rotation?

You’re looking more the idiot daily now.

Conflicting your other claims yet again!

They made up another bs

The one making up BS here is YOU!
Look at what you have done yet again, spouting so much pathetic BS, all because you can't explain how a gyrocompass works.

Again, explain how a gyrocompass works in your delusional fantasy or admit you can't.

It would obviously mean that you are a liar, who said all things within air follow Earths rotation, planes included!

This issue was brought up here by you, your side.  When someone brings up an issue, they have to explain their position on it, support their position with sources on it, then ask others about it, any disputing his argument and why…

I don’t recall that you said what your position on this was, but I assume you think it adjusts or corrects itself for earths rotation when planes drift off of it?

Any more wacky claims to add on?

It would obviously mean that you are a liar

HOW?
How does your complete inability to explain how gyrocompasses work mean I am a liar?
Are you sure it wont mean that YOU are a liar, with you wilfully lying about what people have said, as you need to repeatedly do, to deflect from your complete inability to defend your pathetic BS in an honest manner, and your complete inability to explain how gyrocompasses work.


Again, stop with all the pathetic BS and either explain how gyrocompasses work or admit you can't.

You brought this issue up here, don’t explain why you did, don’t account for what you think it supports your argument, but just ask me what I think it’s used for!!!

Thanks for your being a complete moron, yet again!

You brought this issue up here, don’t explain why you did, don’t account for what you think it supports your argument, but just ask me what I think it’s used for!!!

Thanks for your being a complete moron, yet again!

The only moron here is YOU!

Again, I have already shown your pathetic lies.
The original topic was a gyrocompass.
You, being the pathetic, subhuman scum you are, and knowing you have no chance of explaining how they work in your made up fantasy, instead needed to spout crap about other things, to deflect from your inability to explain.

Again, stop with all the pathetic BS and either explain how gyrocompases work in your pathetic fantasy, or admit you can't.

Have you actually read and studied what they’ve described about this instrument, how it works and why it works, and how it can measure for Earths rotation and how it’s done….

So far, all I’ve seen is a few talk about it correcting fir earths rotation on flights, but nothing more than that I’ve seen on it…

Show your sources for it, if you have any that is.

Have you actually read and studied what they’ve described about this instrument, how it works and why it works, and how it can measure for Earths rotation and how it’s done….

Notice how you keep spouting crap rather than staying on topic.
A gyrocompass is not "measuring for Earth's rotation".
That would be a laser ring gyroscope, or even a normal gyroscope if it is well made enough.

This is about a gyrocompass.
This works due to gyroscopic precession, caused by weights on the gyroscope that would be put off balance by the rotation of Earth which causes the gyroscope to precess to point north.

Instead of just continually spouting pathetic crap, can you explain how they work in your delusional flat Earth fantasy?

A pile of gibberish trying to sound impressive and science-like!!

The planes within the air, both which are rotating with the Earths rotation, held by the made up force, obviously.

A pile of gibberish trying to sound impressive and science-like!!

Thanks for summing up loads of your crap.

Now try dealing with the topic at hand.
Explain how a gyrocompass works in your pathetic fantasy.
If you can't, admit you can't.

The same way as the other instruments do. Based on flying over the flat surface of Earth, with its center as one single point, a magnetic point we’ve long used for navigation on and above Earth.

That’s where we use and measure for one single point. A center point on a flat surface around that point in its middle.

The same way as the other instruments do.

And saying this just demonstrates you have absolutely no idea how they work, or how any thing works; and are just wilfully spouting complete crap to pretend Earth is flat.

Again, the functioning of a gyrocompass is fundamentally different to other instuments.
The easiest way to see this is that a gyrocompass and magnetic compass don't point in the same direciton.
A magnetic compass is easily fooled by a nearby magnet, while the gyrocompass is not.
This shows it is NOT the same way as other instruments.

So again:
Explain how a gyrocompass works in your pathetic fantasy.
If you can't, admit you can't.

Says the idiot who claims we measure for level to Earths curved surface with curved air flowing above it, because of a made up pulling down and holding down all things to the Earths surface, which changes our instruments to measure level as a curved surface of Earth as being ‘level’!!


Level or horizontal mean the same thing, measured the same way, and that is a PATH OVER A DISTANCE, straight and flat across it, end to end of the measurement of level.

Nothing curved, no point on a curved line or surface or whatever else you spew about

Says the idiot

The idiot here is YOU!
YOU are the one continually fleeing from simple questions. Deflecting with whatever pathetic BS you can think of.
As if you know you have no chance of honestly addressing the issue raised, but still want to pretend you are right, and just hoping everyone will be too stupid to notice.

Again:
Explain how a gyrocompass works in your pathetic fantasy.
If you can't, admit you can't.

The moron who doesn’t explain why he shows things to us!!!

Wants to hear others explain it all to him!

The moron who doesn’t explain

i.e. you?

If you are so stupid you have forgotten why this is brought up, it is because in reality, gyrocompasses rely upon Earth's rotation and gravity to induce a torque which results in them pointing north.

Again:
Explain how a gyrocompass works in your pathetic fantasy.
If you can't, admit you can't.

When do you expect to address your own issue here?

All I hear is you bleat for me to explain it. Don’t be a bs artist, say what you think it is, sources for it. etc.


So far you just look like a moron.  No surprise as usual

Explain where a ball earth rotation comes into this, if you can.

Maybe that’s why you’ve said squat about it so far. Don’t mention the rotation bs, it’s not good to be laughed at your claims

When do you expect to address your own issue here?

It has been addressed.
But like usual you ignore it.

So far you just look like a moron.  No surprise as usual

There you go projecting again.
But then again, do you really look like a moron, or just lying scum that knows they have been caught and are trying to deflect at all costs?

Explain where a ball earth rotation comes into this, if you can.

Maybe that’s why you’ve said squat about it so far.

Have you not bothered reading the thread?
You sure do love spouting complete and utter crap as if your pathetic BS hasn't already been addressed.

From the opening post in this thread ( https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=93289.msg2447160#msg2447160 )
there is a link to this video:


You were also provided this link here:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=93289.msg2450481#msg2450481
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrocompass

When you apply a torque to a spinning gyroscope, you cause it to precess.
If you have a gyroscope that is free to reorient itself, it will keeps its axis of rotation.
So on a spinning Earth, if you have it aligned with the axis of rotation, it wont change its orientation at all.
But if it is aligned in any other direction, it will try to reorient.
If you have something which acts against that (e.g. friction), this will apply a force causing it to precess. And that precession is always at right angles to the applied torque.

So for example, if you are at the equator, and the gyroscope is spun up pointing east-west, then as Earth rotates, it will try to maintain its orientation by having one side (lets say the east side) of the gyroscope appear to lift up relative to the observer on Earth (after 90 degrees rotation, i.e. ~6 hours, it would go from horizontal to vertical). But with friction trying to stop this this applies a torque going down at the east side, west at the bottom, up at the west side and east at the top. This then results in the gyroscope processing, rotating about an axis perpendicular to both the torque axis and the axis of rotation. i.e. instead of going up, it will rotate to have the axis align north-south, i.e. with the axis of rotation of Earth.

See how it all works and makes perfect sense for a rotating round Earth?
And note this also allows you to find your latitude, because it aligns with the axis of rotation of Earth rather than merely pointing north/south.

Your turn.

Going to explain how they work or be honest for once and admit you have no idea how they could ever possibly work in your flat Earth fantasy?

You believe all of that is true?

They’ve never mentioned anything about Earths rotation at all, this looks like more bs for sure.


That’s not consistent with your own claims, that the air and everything within the air was rotating along with the Earths rotation, so now you’ve lied about it?

You believe all of that is true?

I know it is true, including from experiments I have done myself.

They’ve

Who?

never

Are you sure that isn't just your wilful ignorance yet again?

this looks like more bs for sure.

No, it looks far more like this is yet more proof that we live on a rotating round planet, and you are too pathetic and dishonest to admit it, so you need to pathetically dismiss it as BS.
If it was BS, you would be able to address the issue you have been repeatedly fleeing from.
How does a gyrocompass work in your pathetic, delusional fantasy?

That’s not consistent with your own claims

It is entirely consistent with my claims.
It is not consistent with your pathetic strawman.
If you think it isn't consistent, try providing a direct quote, with context.

Regardless, stop with all the pathetic BS.
Either explain how a gyrocompass works in your pathetic fantasy or admit you can't.

A ‘torque’ from ball Earths ‘rotation’!!!

What would they measure this rotational torque’ with? Many things don’t add up here, because it’s just nonsense as usual.

Torque can be and is measured by instruments, for tightening nuts and bolts to standards, but nothing loony like they claim is done here

Why always to north, never to south? To the center point of the flat Earth.

A ‘torque’ from ball Earths ‘rotation’!!!

Yes, as explained.
If you have issue with it, try objecting to the part of the explanation, rather than this pathetic BS.

Why always to north, never to south?

Thanks for showing yet again that you are wilfully lying to everyone.
What did I actually say?

it will rotate to have the axis align north-south

Notice that I didn't say it will point north? Instead I said it aligns north-south.
In fact, if you mark one end of the gyroscope (the axis the main part is spinning around), then in one direction of spin, that end will point north, but in the other direction it points south.

As to why, this is because Earth is rotating in a particular direction. It doesn't rock back and forth, it rotates.
And the convention is the right hand rule. Wrap the fingers of your right hand in the direction of rotation, and your thumb points north, or in the direction of the angular momentum vector.

Now again, care to stop with all the pathetic BS and either do the impossible by explaining how this works in your fantasy, or be honest for once in your pathetic existence and admit you can't?

Quote from: turbonium2 on October 11, 2025, 07:00:59 AM

We already know it works as any standard compass on Earth

No, we know the exact opposite.
That it DOESN'T work like a regular compass.
A regular compass points to magnet north, and can easily be fooled by a nearby magnet or by large chunks of metal.
A gyrocompass points to true north, and is not affected by nearby magnets or large chunks of metal.

So we know that isn't the case at all.

So again, explain how gyrocompasses work in your fantasy or admit you can't.

On his Minecraft world, I'm guessing his gyrocompass will point to either the coldest ice wall because of the winds (but then... air temp will affect it), or... more likely the spawn point (but then the nether affects it... since we don't have nether on Earth that'll probably be his only explanation... but it still doesn't fully answer the question of how it works).
(I should make a minecraft compass in my world tbh, got the 4 iron and 1 redstone)