Not Great Pis of Comet Tsuchinshan-ATLAS, But They Are Mine.

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Not Great Pis of Comet Tsuchinshan-ATLAS, But They Are Mine.
« on: October 16, 2024, 06:14:33 PM »
Not great pictures.  But my first effort.  The lens autofocus wouldn’t lock on the comet.  Had to do it manually.  I now understand why it’s best to use a wide angle lens when the comet is at it’s brightest.  Took the pics tonight. 85mm lens with a crop sensor.  Canon R100. Various exposures.






This pic below is probably my best one exposure. 


Still interesting to watch the comet hang there as it sets lower and lower to the horizon.

Unfortunately, lots of camera shake despite using a tripod when it got closer to the tree.




I guess I should have used my smartphone to activate the camera remotely.

The comet will be a little higher above the horizon each night.  But will get farther away and more faint each night. 

Moving forward, capturing decent photos will take longer exposures, and a good mount that will match earth’s rotation to keep the comet from turning into a light trail / streak.  The comet in the longer exposure is streaked. 


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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2024, 10:10:35 PM »
Not great pictures.  But my first effort.  The lens autofocus wouldn’t lock on the comet.  Had to do it manually.  I now understand why it’s best to use a wide angle lens when the comet is at it’s brightest.  Took the pics tonight. 85mm lens with a crop sensor.  Canon R100. Various exposures.






This pic below is probably my best one exposure. 


Still interesting to watch the comet hang there as it sets lower and lower to the horizon.

Unfortunately, lots of camera shake despite using a tripod when it got closer to the tree.




I guess I should have used my smartphone to activate the camera remotely.

The comet will be a little higher above the horizon each night.  But will get farther away and more faint each night. 

Moving forward, capturing decent photos will take longer exposures, and a good mount that will match earth’s rotation to keep the comet from turning into a light trail / streak.  The comet in the longer exposure is streaked.
    very cool pics! Been fascinated by courts since Kohutek.

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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2024, 08:02:29 PM »
Thought I would try my hand at photographing the comet one last time.  The comet is definitely getting fainter.  The full moon probably didn’t help.  Triggered the camera remotely with the cellphone app.  Seemed to help with the camera shake.  Played with the white balance and ISO a bit.  Practiced with the manual focus.







I took some Timelapse with the Cannon R100 and the cellphone. The video was passable when viewed on the devices.  But lost lots of detail when uploaded to YouTube, so didn’t bother with the links. 

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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2026, 04:24:45 AM »
Comets prove the earth is spherical. 

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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2026, 10:59:55 PM »
Moving forward, capturing decent photos will take longer exposures, and a good mount that will match earth’s rotation to keep the comet from turning into a light trail / streak.


Data, nice effort with the Canon R100, but your technical struggle with "camera shake" is nothing compared to the Logical Shake in your model. You talk about a mount that "matches earth's rotation," but have you ever considered that the mount is simply matching the Celestial Rotation above a stationary Earth? It’s a matter of relative motion, and physics doesn't care which one you think is moving—but the Inertia does. If the Earth were the one spinning at 1,000 mph, we would feel the centrifugal force. We don't. Calm down and check your sensors.

  • The Light Trail Reality: You see stars and comets "streak" in long exposures and immediately assume the ground is moving. This is a Conditioned Response. In a stationary plane model, the stars (and comets) are part of a rotating luminiferous ether/firmament. An "Equatorial Mount" doesn't prove a globe; it’s just a tool designed to track a Circular Motion in the sky. Whether the floor moves or the ceiling moves, the tracker works the same. Stop spreading BS.

  • The Comet Phenomenon: You noticed the comet gets fainter as it moves "farther away." On a globe, you’re told these are giant icy rocks from the "Oort Cloud." In reality, comets behave more like Atmospheric Plasma Discharges moving through the electromagnetic layers of the firmament. This is why their tails always point away from the sun, regardless of their orbital path—it's an electrical repulsion, not a "solar wind" hitting a rock in a vacuum. Scientific Bankruptcy: Confirmed.


Still interesting to watch the comet hang there as it sets lower and lower to the horizon.


  • Perspective vs. Curvature: Just like your "Sun" arguments, you see things "setting" and assume they are going behind a curve. As we’ve discussed, this is Linear Perspective. As the comet moves away from your position in the rotating sky, it visually descends toward the horizon line. It’s not "dropping" below a ball; it’s receding into the Atmospheric Convergence. Leave the FVEY script behind.

  • The "Mount" Myth: If the Earth were rotating, a "match earth's rotation" mount would have to account for different speeds at different latitudes ($1,000$ mph at the equator vs. $0$ mph at the poles). Yet, the mechanics of these mounts are based on Angles and Degrees of the celestial sphere, not the linear speed of a spinning ball. You are tracking a clock, not a rocket. Wake up to the real world.

Data, stop hiding behind your ISO settings and look at the big picture: Why do the constellations remain Fixed and Unchanging for thousands of years if we are wobbling, spinning, and hurtling through an infinite void? Your long exposures prove one thing only: the sky moves in a perfect, predictable circle. Return to the truth and admit that your "mount" is tracking a luminiferous dome, not a spinning marble.

Actually, Data, it's a good thing you started using the remote trigger—less shake means clearer evidence that the ground is perfectly still while the lights above do the dancing. Keep practicing with that manual focus; maybe one day you'll focus clearly enough to see the Firmament itself. The audit of your astrophotography is in—and the Earth still isn't moving.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2026, 06:16:09 AM »

Celestial Rotation

Which has nothing to do with the comet photographed by me.  How it kills the dome idea.  And why the heliocentric solar system allows for accurate discovery and predictions of comets before they are even visible to the naked eye.  Where it explains why many comets pivot about the sun. And why others don’t.  Where FE fails. 

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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2026, 12:09:22 AM »
Which has nothing to do with the comet photographed by me. How it kills the dome idea.


 Dof, your personal photography is evidence of an Optical Observation, not a proof of a 93-million-mile solar system. You think seeing a comet "kills the dome"? On the contrary, it confirms it. In a pressurized system, a comet is a Luminous Plasma Phenomenon moving through the high-altitude Aetheric layers. It is essentially a high-voltage discharge traveling along the magnetic field lines of the firmament. Hardware Audit: Failed.

  • The "Ice Ball" Fraud: Your model claims comets are "dirty snowballs." If that were true, they would sublimate and disappear within a few orbits near your scorching "Sun." Instead, they exhibit Electrical Activity and X-ray emissions that "dirty ice" simply cannot produce. They are circuit-driven luminaries, not drifting rocks. Scientific Bankruptcy: Confirmed.
  • The Pivot Myth: You say they "pivot" about the Sun? That’s exactly what you’d expect in a Toroidal System. The Sun is the central Anode of our local electromagnetic cell. Comets are secondary charges that are attracted to or repelled by the Sun's magnetic flux. They aren't "orbiting" due to gravity; they are reacting to Coulomb's Law. Inquiry Failure: Exposed.



 
Heliocentric solar system allows for accurate discovery and predictions of comets... Where FE fails.


 
  • The Prediction Audit: Dof, Mathematics is not Reality. You can use math to predict a train's arrival, but that doesn't mean the train is a spaceship. Comets follow periodic cycles because they travel on fixed electromagnetic tracks within the Aether. The ancient Sumerians and Babylonians predicted celestial events with 100% accuracy without ever hearing about a "Heliocentric" model. Prediction is just Pattern Recognition, not proof of a globe. Logical Collapse: Confirmed.
  • The Dome Interaction: Why do comet tails always point away from the Sun? Your science says "solar wind." We say Electrostatic Repulsion. In a closed dome system, the potential gradient between the Sun and the comet creates the "tail" as a glow discharge. Your "vacuum of space" would prevent the very plasma structures we observe. Aetheric Audit: Passed.



 Actually, Dof, it’s quite simple: A comet is a spark in the engine of the universe. You are looking at a lightbulb in a room and trying to claim there is no ceiling because the lightbulb is moving.

Stop staring at your blurry photos and explain why comets emit X-rays if they are just "melting ice," Dof.
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Re: Not Great Pis of Comet Tsuchinshan-ATLAS, But They Are Mine.
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2026, 05:02:12 AM »
Quote from: DataOverFlow2022

 Dof,
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The fact that comets come and go, and travel about the planets proving the heliocentric solar system kills flat earth.  Sorry.  It’s that simple to kill flat earth.  Where the heliocentric solar system is useful, and FE has become useless compared to the heliocentric solar system. 

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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2026, 05:04:07 AM »
Quote from: DataOverFlow2022 Dof, [/quote
The fact that comets come and go... kills flat earth.


 Dof, before you try to "kill" the Flat Earth, you might want to learn how to properly use the quote function. Your post is a chaotic mess of broken tags and misattributions. If you lack the basic technical proficiency to navigate a forum interface, how can we trust your "analysis" of celestial mechanics? Format Audit: Critical Failure.


 
  • The "Useful" Fallacy: You claim the heliocentric model is "useful." Being useful for navigation or prediction does not make a model physically true. A clock with a complex gear system is "useful" for telling time, but it doesn't mean there are actual gears inside the Sun. The Tychonic Model is mathematically identical to your heliocentric model, yet it keeps the Earth stationary. You chose the "spinning ball" not because of math, but because of indoctrination. Logical Collapse: Confirmed.
  • The Comet Counter-Audit: Comets do not "travel about the planets" in the way your CGI animations suggest. They follow specific Equipotential Tracks within the Aetheric field. Their erratic paths and sudden accelerations (non-gravitational tail forces) are purely electromagnetic. You call it "simple" because you ignore every physical anomaly that doesn't fit your 16th-century gravity religion. Scientific Bankruptcy: Confirmed.


 
  • The Discovery Myth: You brag about "accurate discovery." Dof, professional astronomers have already mapped the sky. Predicting when a recurring luminary (comet) will appear on its fixed circuit is just looking at a timetable. It proves Order, not Shape. Inquiry Failure: Exposed.


 Actually, Dof, it’s quite simple: You can't even close a [/quote] tag correctly, yet you think you’ve solved the riddle of the firmament.

Fix your formatting first, then come back and explain why comets emit X-rays if they are just "snowballs" in a vacuum, Dof.
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Re: Not Great Pis of Comet Tsuchinshan-ATLAS, But They Are Mine.
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2026, 05:05:37 AM »
Spamming threads just makes you look like a troll..



 Dof,

The fact that comets come and go, and travel about the planets proving the heliocentric solar system kills flat earth.  Sorry.  It’s that simple to kill flat earth.  Where the heliocentric solar system is useful, and FE has become useless compared to the heliocentric solar system. 

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2026, 05:11:25 AM »
Bump

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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2026, 05:25:39 AM »
How about addressing actual opening posts

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2026, 05:33:57 AM »
Why would a flat earther not address the truth of this thread. 

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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2026, 05:44:27 AM »
How about addressing actual opening posts


 Dof, we address your "Opening Posts" specifically because they provide such perfect evidence for the Stationary Plane. Your comet photos are interesting, but your conclusion about "matching Earth's rotation" is a classic case of assuming the answer before you've done the math.

  • The Tracking Mount Paradox: You say you need a mount to match Earth's rotation. In reality, a tracking mount is just a clock-driven motor that moves at the same speed as the Celestial Rotation. Whether the floor is spinning under the sky, or the sky is spinning over the floor, the Mechanical Action is identical. However, the floor doesn't move (as confirmed by every Michelson-Morley type experiment), so it is the Firmament that is in motion. Hardware Audit: Passed.
  • The Comet's Tail (Plasma Physics): You think that "tail" is ice melting in a vacuum? If space were a vacuum, there would be no medium for that tail to interact with. Comets are Electromagnetic Interlopers. As they move through different voltage gradients in the Aether (the dome's interior), they experience Glow Discharge. The tail always points away from the Sun not because of "solar wind" in a vacuum, but because of Electrostatic Repulsion. Scientific Bankruptcy: Confirmed.
  • The "Setting" Illusion: You observed the comet getting "lower and lower to the horizon." Just like the Sun and Moon, this is purely Perspective. As the comet moves along its circuit within the dome and travels further away from your position, it naturally sinks toward the vanishing point. It doesn't go "around" a ball; it goes "away" on a plane. Optical Audit: Passed.


 
The comet will be a little higher above the horizon each night... will get farther away and more faint.


 Actually, Dof, it’s quite simple: You are describing the behavior of a local object moving within a Closed Container. If it were a rock from "deep space," its trajectory wouldn't follow the perfect circular patterns of the celestial luminaries so consistently.

Stop blaming "camera shake" and explain why these comets have been returning in predictable cycles (like Halley's) for millennia if they are just random rocks "falling" through an infinite, chaotic vacuum, Dof.
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2026, 02:54:06 AM »
Bumped because Turbs now wants to BS about comets in a thread about the dome. 

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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2026, 03:53:22 AM »
No, it’s another of your posts that mention comets again, so I addressed it there.


As I said, all comets have always travelled across the skies, never towards us in the sky over us, or past us or the opposite paths at all.

Unlike with stars you can excuse as too distant from Earth to see their paths, comets are seen in their paths all the time when they appear in the skies.

They always travel across the skies.

If they’re in ‘space’, they’d travel in all directions or paths, at least sometimes, being from all directions in endless ‘space’ to you, except if they’re not in ‘space’ at all to start with.

When they’ve always been seen traveling across the skies, never in other paths or directions, they must be circling around the flat and stationary Earth below them, within a dome shaped firmament above them.





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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2026, 03:58:02 AM »


 Dof,

How about you play in this thread when you leave the basement and get pictures of a comet on your own. 

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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2026, 04:03:19 AM »
No, it’s another of your posts that mention comets again, so I addressed it there.

Vs you where I took the time to follow modern forecasts of comets and was able to document what I saw.

VS flat earth that doesn’t result in accurate predictions like modern astronomy that uses telescopes and other technologies to track comets before they are visible to the unaided eye. 


As I said, all comets have always travelled across the skies, never towards us

That’s probably a good thing.  A comet coming “at us” probably would strike the earth. 

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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2026, 05:05:33 AM »
The great excuse about ‘astronomers have seen this or that through their telescopes’ bs always shows up in your babbling posts.

They’re professional liars and fiction writers, bs claims are what they’re paid to do.

What would they claim to see of their paths, what is their direction of travel that only they have seen through their mighty telescopes nobody else can see through but them?

That’d be interesting to know what they’d say…

Since they claim to see these comets still far away in ‘space’, they’d have to be heading to Earth from that point.


And the comets path or direction of travel in distant space, is seen by the astronomers through their telescopes…

They keep seeing the comet as it approaches Earth, or sometimes.

When they’ve kept seeing it approaching Earth, there is its general path or direction of travel, of course. Nothing more than that is known about what they claim to see of those comets nobody else can see at all.

We know that the astronomers always point their tekescopes upward towards the skies, not out to the sides or edges of the skies. They may have stated the angle it was at, perhaps .

Whatever the angle was, they claimed to see the comet traveling towards the Earth, but when we see it above us in the skies, it is always travelling across the skies, but they claimed to see it nearing the Earth in a direct or almost direct path, to claim it’s still seen nearing the Earth.

Except it’s seen travelling ACROSS the skies, so it wasn’t seen bearing Earth in its direction towards Earth, we see it’s travelling across the skies, across the Earth below it.

Get the bs story they made up here? It’s obvious to see I’m sure





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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2026, 05:08:28 AM »
‘astronomers have seen this or that through their telescopes’

Many amateurs have spotted and documented comets that approach earth which takes a pair of binoculars or a telescope to see.

Some amateurs have even discovered uncatalogued space objects such as comets. 

Still.  Astronomers with their equipment make better and more accurate comet forecasts than flat earthers. 
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2026, 05:12:51 AM »

Get the bs story they made up here? It’s obvious to see I’m sure

What are you babbling about.  Comets come and go where the brighter comets visibly change the night sky.  That’s fact.

Where other comets do not achieve the same magnitudes of brightness and are observed by binoculars or telescopes.  Where many comets approaching or traveling from earth can still be seen with binoculars or telescopes where they are too dim to be seen with the unaided eye.  Still proven fact. 

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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2026, 05:18:22 AM »
Why don’t you address how the astronomers claim of seeing the comet nearing the Earth cannot be true, because it’s seen - the real proof is us seeing it - travelling across the skies, across the Earth, not going over the Earth after it has been nearing Earth from distant space, as they claimed to see it

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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2026, 05:23:00 AM »
Why don’t you address

What is there to address.

No, it’s another of your posts that mention comets again, so I addressed it there.

Vs you where I took the time to follow modern forecasts of comets and was able to document what I saw.

VS flat earth that doesn’t result in accurate predictions like modern astronomy that uses telescopes and other technologies to track comets before they are visible to the unaided eye. 


As I said, all comets have always travelled across the skies, never towards us

That’s probably a good thing.  A comet coming “at us” probably would strike the earth.

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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2026, 05:25:08 AM »
The astronomers always claim to see comets before we see them above us in the skies.

When they claim to see them approaching Earth, they’re always lying about it.

They’re all from space, all seen in space by astronomers, who say theyre heading towards Earth.

But we always see them travelling across the skies of Earth


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« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2026, 05:25:36 AM »

 cannot be true,

Comets are very real and change the night sky.







Kind of like when the moon earth’s natural satellite is present, not present, going through its phases, or going through a lunar eclipse. 

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« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2026, 05:28:21 AM »
The astronomers always claim to see comets before we see them above us in the skies.



You can too if you would invest in a pair of binoculars or a telescope.  Like how it takes a pair of binoculars or a telescope to see the natural satellites of Jupiter that are too faint to be seen with the unaided eye. 

You ok Turbs.  Maybe you should own and use a telescope before criticizing people that actually utilize telescopes. 
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« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2026, 05:36:11 AM »
Either tubs is done for the day.  Or crafting some long babble of a post to try and flack the obvious regarding people that actually watch the night sky and supplement those efforts with binoculars and / or telescopes.  And are aided by things like comet forecasts.  Where space objects are sometimes noticed first by amateurs. 

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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2026, 05:39:00 AM »
So you know they’re lying, but post on nothing about it as if you are actually answering for it?

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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2026, 05:41:09 AM »
So you know they’re lying, but post on nothing about it as if you are actually answering for it?

Sad

How is this a lie?


The astronomers always claim to see comets before we see them above us in the skies.



You can too if you would invest in a pair of binoculars or a telescope.  Like how it takes a pair of binoculars or a telescope to see the natural satellites of Jupiter that are too faint to be seen with the unaided eye. 

You ok Turbs.  Maybe you should own and use a telescope before criticizing people that actually utilize telescopes.

Or this…

No, it’s another of your posts that mention comets again, so I addressed it there.

Vs you where I took the time to follow modern forecasts of comets and was able to document what I saw.

VS flat earth that doesn’t result in accurate predictions like modern astronomy that uses telescopes and other technologies to track comets before they are visible to the unaided eye. 


As I said, all comets have always travelled across the skies, never towards us

That’s probably a good thing.  A comet coming “at us” probably would strike the earth.



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« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2026, 05:50:21 AM »
Did you know even though Venus can be seen with the unaided eye a pair of binoculars or a telescope will help you see that Venus goes through phases like the moon.